Any idea how much it is going to cost?
Kia K3 aka Kia Forte 2013 !, look naise
Kia K3 aka Kia Forte 2013 !, look naise
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May 23 2013, 08:36 PM
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Any idea how much it is going to cost?
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May 23 2013, 09:25 PM
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Wow....super nice modified.
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May 23 2013, 11:06 PM
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May 23 2013, 11:26 PM
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May 24 2013, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE(amdxp @ May 23 2013, 10:48 AM) The biggest problem of K3 : 1. Due to new P1 protection policy, all non-local car price forced to increase. Since Korean cars are perceived as quality car, they no longer get to enjoy cheaper lower level alternative they entitled previously where Korean makes are labelled lower than Japanese and posed less threat to P1.1. pricing to close to Civic already 2. utilise a torsion beam rear suspension system which compromise the handling a BIG time. 3. No GDI, don't bullshit about our low fuel grade, look at all VW FSI turbo, all direct injection dude. 2. Torsion beam comprised of cheap low level, mid level and premium high level. The cheap torsion beam found in Sylphy is just 1 plain beam looks like construction steel beam structure. The Elantra/K3 are fitted with higher end coupled torsion beam that could improve handling. Best torsion beam suspension setup, it could beat lower level Multi-link (Teana) and could barely challenge mid-level Multi-Link. In terms of ride, Multi-link, if left side going through uneven roads, it will not affect the suspension on right side. Also, when cornering take right, if left side is pulling left, the right side is less affected. Given the best torsion beam, it loses in this point. Torsion beam is only suited for light cars (less than 1300kg still acceptable ) 3. GDI worry is on injector. As long as they downgrade the injector, it could feed on RON95 without problem. Sulphur has nothing to do with damaging injector nor engine block. Reason why they give MPI is that it allows to pump RON91 fuel. I will be happy to see GDI 1.6L and GDi 2.0L in K3. Most important when bringing in 2 engine variants 1.6L and 2.0L: - Must have big significant visible difference between the 2. Example, bigger rim in 2.0L at least with logo 2.0L behind and extra item. Else, it'll end up like Forte 2.0 where there is no difference at all other than engine. Only later they put in the 2.0L emblem and LCD monitor but too late. Old Forte 2.0 could do better if SX trim only available in 2.0 whereas 1.6 limited to EX. Check visible difference between Elantra 1.8 and 1.6. For me, focus is on practicality: I want the ABS+EBD+BA+VSC+TC. I want the key and keyholes at both front sides and on the boot hinge. Also, I wanted mechanical lever beside driver seat that can be operated without battery. Alarm open boot is ok too as it is convenient. 15" or 16" rim fine with me. Also I want the chrome and nice nappa leather. Reverse/front sensor I need, reverse camera is fine. I don't want sunroof, too big rim (no money to change tyre), autolights, pushstart button, keyless entry, no lever boot, daytime lights, too much button on steering, etc gadgets that are not even necessary. |
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May 24 2013, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 24 2013, 03:58 AM) 1. Due to new P1 protection policy, all non-local car price forced to increase. Since Korean cars are perceived as quality car, they no longer get to enjoy cheaper lower level alternative they entitled previously where Korean makes are labelled lower than Japanese and posed less threat to P1. That is bs. Proton cars no where near 99k ~ 120k range. If that's so, how come the mirage are even allowed to be sell 55k? 2. Torsion beam comprised of cheap low level, mid level and premium high level. The cheap torsion beam found in Sylphy is just 1 plain beam looks like construction steel beam structure. The Elantra/K3 are fitted with higher end coupled torsion beam that could improve handling. Best torsion beam suspension setup, it could beat lower level Multi-link (Teana) and could barely challenge mid-level Multi-Link. In terms of ride, Multi-link, if left side going through uneven roads, it will not affect the suspension on right side. Also, when cornering take right, if left side is pulling left, the right side is less affected. Given the best torsion beam, it loses in this point. Torsion beam is only suited for light cars (less than 1300kg still acceptable ) 3. GDI worry is on injector. As long as they downgrade the injector, it could feed on RON95 without problem. Sulphur has nothing to do with damaging injector nor engine block. Reason why they give MPI is that it allows to pump RON91 fuel. I will be happy to see GDI 1.6L and GDi 2.0L in K3. Most important when bringing in 2 engine variants 1.6L and 2.0L: - Must have big significant visible difference between the 2. Example, bigger rim in 2.0L at least with logo 2.0L behind and extra item. Else, it'll end up like Forte 2.0 where there is no difference at all other than engine. Only later they put in the 2.0L emblem and LCD monitor but too late. Old Forte 2.0 could do better if SX trim only available in 2.0 whereas 1.6 limited to EX. Check visible difference between Elantra 1.8 and 1.6. For me, focus is on practicality: I want the ABS+EBD+BA+VSC+TC. I want the key and keyholes at both front sides and on the boot hinge. Also, I wanted mechanical lever beside driver seat that can be operated without battery. Alarm open boot is ok too as it is convenient. 15" or 16" rim fine with me. Also I want the chrome and nice nappa leather. Reverse/front sensor I need, reverse camera is fine. I don't want sunroof, too big rim (no money to change tyre), autolights, pushstart button, keyless entry, no lever boot, daytime lights, too much button on steering, etc gadgets that are not even necessary. It makes perfect sense that this new Cerato have better features than previos forte, thus the price is higher. |
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May 24 2013, 12:28 PM
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wanna ask, if 1.6 vs 2.0 which one better for me? just daily city drive. hardly highway here in Sarawak lo......
2.0 does it mean pick up at traffic light/roundabout fast or highway accelerate fast? for sure 1.6 save petrol . i just want to know is it worth the money 2.0 or 1.6 underpower? need sifu lighten me....thanks |
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May 24 2013, 01:16 PM
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Kia Cerato (K3) launching on 2 July 2013.
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May 24 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(captivesim @ May 24 2013, 12:28 PM) wanna ask, if 1.6 vs 2.0 which one better for me? just daily city drive. hardly highway here in Sarawak lo...... Normal use 1.6 will be enough, i not sure how sarawak road condition, if is bad, downgrade the rim to 16", even only 1600cc, it will be very nice to drive around.2.0 does it mean pick up at traffic light/roundabout fast or highway accelerate fast? for sure 1.6 save petrol . i just want to know is it worth the money 2.0 or 1.6 underpower? need sifu lighten me....thanks |
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May 24 2013, 02:24 PM
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May 24 2013, 02:59 PM
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May 24 2013, 03:16 PM
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May 24 2013, 03:23 PM
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May 24 2013, 03:48 PM
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Paid my booking fees for the white 1
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May 24 2013, 03:59 PM
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May 24 2013, 04:53 PM
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Paid 1k, didn't plan to cancel or test drive. Just buy and hopefully collect on this week it launch. Taking a huge risk. Hope motortrend.com review is true about the car
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May 24 2013, 06:11 PM
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May 24 2013, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ May 24 2013, 04:53 PM) Paid 1k, didn't plan to cancel or test drive. Just buy and hopefully collect on this week it launch. Taking a huge risk. Hope motortrend.com review is true about the car Wow bro. Car not yet launch already pd 1k as booking...anyway u won't regret buying this new model..i'm a proud owner of forte 2.0 for nearly 2yrs so far the car got no problems at all..very nice n powerfull loh..mine still new if not i will surely replace this beautiful tiger...cheers,, |
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May 24 2013, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(kumanlover @ May 24 2013, 06:15 PM) Wow bro. Car not yet launch already pd 1k as booking...anyway u won't regret buying this new model..i'm a proud owner of forte 2.0 for nearly 2yrs so far the car got no problems at all..very nice n powerfull loh..mine still new if not i will surely replace this beautiful tiger...cheers,, Bro..Forte 2.0 powerful is it on highway? because i only considering 1.6 the new K3. Mine just city drive ok kah? how about pickup after roundabout and traffic light? i just need confirmation |
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May 24 2013, 06:51 PM
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There's an app on the Apple Store for the Kia Cerato if anyone is interested...not the local car specs but good just to see colors and main features...
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