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post Jul 26 2012, 09:44 PM

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ok. just wanna know what will i need to know. i dun wan kena sembelih by those ppl saying the whole a/c system rosak need overhaul or smth.

if leak, what will be replace? and around how much need to spend?

and if that so called piston rosak, how much need to pay?
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post Jul 26 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jul 26 2012, 10:44 PM)
ok. just wanna know what will i need to know. i dun wan kena sembelih by those ppl saying the whole a/c system rosak need overhaul or smth.

if leak, what will be replace? and around how much need to spend?

and if that so called piston rosak, how much need to pay?
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Leak depends on which part ,if compressor shaft shield rm120+ ,O-ring RM80 below maybe..Magnet coild spoil rm150below...probally 80..

Compressor no 1 say piston rosak 1. Just JAM or jem i dont know.. LOL Need to buy Recon 1 below rm400.

Recon maybe 1 or 3month warranty.

If can repair just repair keep those money for other usage. a normal compressor can survive 3-5 years.. IF repair also rm100+ d. if yu want to change ok also rm300+ better but price rclxub.gif

Malaysia income low sad.gif If other country they change spare parts just a piece of peanut for them..

nw i work in taiwan. thier income higher then malaysia 3x. Spare part cheaper then malaysia 40% + summor all import car.
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 26 2012, 09:55 PM)
Leak depends on which part ,if compressor shaft shield rm120+ ,O-ring RM80 below maybe..Magnet coild spoil rm150below...probally 80..

Compressor no 1 say piston rosak 1. Just JAM or jem i dont know.. LOL Need to buy Recon  1 below rm400.

Recon maybe 1 or 3month warranty.

If can repair just repair keep those money for other usage. a normal compressor can survive 3-5 years.. IF repair also rm100+ d. if yu want to change ok also rm300+ better but price  rclxub.gif

Malaysia income low sad.gif  If other country they change spare parts just a piece of peanut for them..

nw i work in taiwan. thier income higher then malaysia 3x. Spare part cheaper then malaysia 40% + summor all import car.
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normal compressor can survive 3-5 years u mean is recon compressor is it or after repair?

ya.. gov no control the price thats why. they need protong to survive...


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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jul 27 2012, 09:18 AM)
normal compressor can survive 3-5 years u mean is recon compressor is it or after repair?

ya.. gov no control the price thats why. they need protong to survive...
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Recon. depends on who repair it last time. rclxm9.gif Car compressor if used long time,the compressing will decrease power edi..
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 27 2012, 08:43 AM)
Recon. depends on who repair it last time.  rclxm9.gif  Car compressor if used long time,the compressing will decrease power edi..
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coz i think my compressor also quite long no change d... decrease power nvm, at least still can blow out cool air ok d la... i tak banyak macam one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jul 27 2012, 09:45 AM)
coz i think my compressor also quite long no change d... decrease power nvm, at least still can blow out cool air ok d la... i tak banyak macam one  biggrin.gif
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rclxms.gif how old r u this year? Wait until it condem 1st only change. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 27 2012, 08:48 AM)
rclxms.gif  how old r u this year? Wait until it condem 1st only change. thumbup.gif
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me 60 years old. u belip? rclxms.gif

yeah, but i know it really condem or wat lol. jangan jangan bring to check, they cincai give few reason then say compressor broken need change.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jul 27 2012, 09:52 AM)
me 60 years old. u belip?  rclxms.gif 

yeah, but i know it really condem or wat lol. jangan jangan bring to check, they cincai give few reason then say compressor broken need change..  doh.gif
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60 rclxub.gif no la,normaly they will say yr compressor want to spoil ady, change compressor better.hahahaha (IF THE TRICKY 1) Fast $ and easy JOB

Lets me check 1st then he will tell yu what spoil ( Honest but may scam also LOL) Take alot of time..
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 27 2012, 08:56 AM)
60  rclxub.gif  no la,normaly they will say yr compressor want to spoil ady, change compressor better.hahahaha (IF THE TRICKY 1) Fast $ and easy JOB

Lets me check 1st then he will tell yu what spoil ( Honest but may scam also LOL) Take alot of time..
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haha. so i'll just let them check it first the decide eh?
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post Jul 27 2012, 09:14 AM

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ah the air sound, i think i had the same issue too last time. There's a thingy (i dont remember the name) it have like 2-3 pipe hose connected to it. Must be a valve or something that uses air to trigger it. I change the thing and the AC start getting cooler again.

It's pretty rare to find car repair shop that also do aircond repair. But if you can find one that can do both your pretty lucky already.

Just try to get it checked at a few places so you can compare the results they gave to you and the price. It's important to get a nice and honest shop, because last time i've changed almost everything up to more than 1500 just because they didnt know it's the gas cutoff switch that's having trouble. So mine is a pretty expensive lessons.

Yeah, they will asks you to change 1 stuff 1 by 1. I think it's either because they are inexperienced or just trying to rip people off.

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jul 27 2012, 10:01 AM)
haha. so i'll just let them check it first the decide eh?
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Check gas only,if others yu check the must disamble ,yu need to pay lol ,hhaha
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:33 PM)
Check gas only,if others yu check the must disamble ,yu need to pay lol ,hhaha
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ok. depends what he say lo then
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QUOTE(marumaru @ Jul 26 2012, 09:10 AM)
Things to check for old car a/c system and goto car aircond shop, not workshop.

1. AC Gas - If low, top up. Usually can last up to 2 years. If 3 months lose gas already, ask them to check if got leakage at pipes or joints. they have gas detector to do that if u go to proper car AC shop. Gas can also leak through the gasket of older compressor.

2. Low gas cutoff sensor for compressor - Some idiot usually advise to bypass this sensor when it's faulty. What will happen is when your gas is low the compressor will keep on running spoiling the compressor. Happens to my old car last time, change compressor 3 times because of this.

3. Thermostat - rarely spoilt, but if spoilt will cause your condenser to over cool and makes water in the condenser freeze to ice. Air flow will be blocked and no air will come out of your blower until it melt again.

4. Compressor - The heart of the AC, if older than 3-5 years usually have issue like gasket leaking or wear and tear on the piston. Will die really fast if the low gas cutoff switch have been bypassed.

5. Condenser - Place where the air become cool and hot air is absorbed. Rarely need any attention because a normal cleaning shoul dbe sufficient if it's too dirty. Only need to change when there's leaking but only on really2 old car.

Always try 2-3 different shop to troubleshoot before you repair, checking is always free and it's good to have a 2nd opinion especially if you're not familiar with the shops. Ask the problems and price for repairing it. Compare it with other place.
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If there is no gas in the system, can they check for leakage, for free? Or is the only way to top up, and then check for leakage? They will charge then right, since gas has been used?


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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 26 2012, 08:55 AM)
ya same thing. Condensor=Rm300 / Evaporator rm300 / Compressor recon rm3++ Lowest. If Pipe Rm50-100 / If compressor Leak,Change O-ring rm80-100.  And yr compressor never spoil, Dnt giv them scam ==.. Just take go and check pressure. If Condensor or Cooling coil leak cant repair. Evaporator &cooling coil is the same thing. And Ask the price b4 yu Fix!
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The shop guy put his finger on the compressor and say "see, oil leak, compressor rosak, must change new one. RM400". They say the compressor is one single unit. Cannot repair. Must change the whole thing. What do you think? Scam? O-ring?

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QUOTE(dkk @ Jul 30 2012, 12:55 AM)
If there is no gas in the system, can they check for leakage, for free? Or is the only way to top up, and then check for leakage? They will charge then right, since gas has been used?


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The shop guy put his finger on the compressor and say "see, oil leak, compressor rosak,  must change new one. RM400". They say the compressor is one single unit. Cannot repair. Must change the whole thing. What do you think? Scam? O-ring?
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Usually they need to add gas then check for leakage, yes you will be charged for it. But only do it if you have a budget to repair it at the same time, for eg. repairing the leakage while changing the compressor.

Regarding the compressor, yeah you need to change the whole unit. I used to get a bit cheaper by using recon or from kedai potong. Usually if the shop is considerate they can advise for a cheaper alternative. But that's the 5-6 year old ago price lol.

my favourite shop last time was at bangi, i'm not really familiar with other areas to recommend to you. But it would only take 4-6 hours max, for major repair works anyway.

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QUOTE(dkk @ Jul 30 2012, 01:55 AM)
If there is no gas in the system, can they check for leakage, for free? Or is the only way to top up, and then check for leakage? They will charge then right, since gas has been used?


Added on July 30, 2012, 1:00 am

The shop guy put his finger on the compressor and say "see, oil leak, compressor rosak,  must change new one. RM400". They say the compressor is one single unit. Cannot repair. Must change the whole thing. What do you think? Scam? O-ring?
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Actually no need to add gas inside, they will use air to pump inside. i dnt know its free or nt.

Depends on the shop got repair or nt. oil leak nt compressor rosak. try to ask other shop. If O-ring easy. IF shaft shield leak need some high experience do.


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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 30 2012, 08:33 AM)
Actually no need to add gas inside, they will use air to pump inside. i dnt know its free or nt.

Depends on the shop got repair or nt. oil leak nt compressor rosak. try to ask other shop. If O-ring easy. IF shaft shield leak need some high experience do.
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Ah they use bubbles is it to check? The one i went last time use an electronic sensor to detect the gas. It have a long probe like thing and will beeb loudly near leakage area.
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QUOTE(marumaru @ Jul 30 2012, 09:50 AM)
Ah they use bubbles is it to check? The one i went last time use an electronic sensor to detect the gas. It have a long probe like thing and will beeb loudly near leakage area.
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yup normaly bubble. if still can't trace any leakage. hav to disamble those component and put in the water to check d. yup it detect the pressure when leak. but hardly to detect tiny leak. now 1 technology can use light to detect also rclxub.gif . some oil inside the compressor is green 1. when use spectacle & torchlight, the part that leak oil will glow. doh.gif
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 30 2012, 07:32 PM)
yup normaly bubble. if still can't trace any leakage. hav to disamble those component and put in the water to check d. yup it detect the pressure when leak. but hardly to detect tiny leak. now 1 technology can use light to detect also  rclxub.gif . some oil inside the compressor is green 1. when use spectacle & torchlight, the part that leak oil will glow. doh.gif
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wow really canggih la nowaday, my old car last time the leak mostly at compressor (change to recon) and pipe joints. Must be cause i did bang the car a few times before tongue.gif

But they fixed the joints, not sure how they do it cause i spent the whole time waiting in a cyber cafe playing online games tongue.gif

But after all that, even after 2 years the gas pressure seems ok. Haven't top up any gas at all after that, i even see droplets of water frozen on the pipes in the engine blink.gif

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QUOTE(marumaru @ Jul 30 2012, 11:21 PM)
wow really canggih la nowadays, my old car last time the leak mostly at compressor (change to recon) and pipe joints. Must be cause i did bang the car a few times before  tongue.gif

But they fixed the joints, not sure how they do it cause i spent the whole time waiting in a cyber cafe playing online games  tongue.gif
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u mean pipe leakk??? or.... ubah suai? haha about the compressor,yu keep speeding izit? malaysian car mostly no auto cut for the compressor ,so when u speeding damn fast the compressor stil working. some car when u speeding it will auto cut.

actually malaysian ppl don't know many new technology came out long time ago. i realise that we damn ketinggalan d.
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QUOTE(kswee @ Jul 30 2012, 10:30 PM)
u mean pipe leakk??? or.... ubah suai? haha about the compressor,yu keep speeding izit? malaysian car mostly no auto cut for the compressor ,so when u speeding damn fast the compressor stil working. some car when u speeding it will auto cut.

actually malaysian ppl don't know many new technology came out long time ago. i realise that we damn ketinggalan d.
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last time my compressor spoil cause some smart alec before bypass it using a jumper. With leaking on the pipes joints (minor) and the old compressor gasket, the compressor keep running even though it's low on gas. Costs me a fortune changing the compressor 3 times. Only the trusty shop at bangi spot the problem and advise me to change the cut off switch. It's not that expensive too, blardy hell.

Really owe the towkey big one for doing a proper check and spotting the problem for me.

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