build yourself a unit of any amp, and listen to it. by then you don't need to trust anyone, not me, not Head-Fiers, not ijan and even KilJim and Tachi. trust your ears.
how bout that?
Headphones PhilipS HP890 and SHP895 and SBC HP1000 clubz^^, come and share ur love story of this can
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Apr 12 2006, 10:20 PM
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^ or maybe you just need to dive into DIY.
build yourself a unit of any amp, and listen to it. by then you don't need to trust anyone, not me, not Head-Fiers, not ijan and even KilJim and Tachi. trust your ears. how bout that? |
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May 27 2006, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 27 2006, 10:20 AM) jigon : yeah i will meet dinodog again at time square some where next week, u wanna come? to test his mini eph, my cmoy, sr60, hp890 with canare cable, sony 70's headphone (good) and one authetic headphone which is totaly made of steel. hahaha be sure to ask him to bring his EMU0404. that is if he's willing to join. i'm sure you guys will look forward to it. |
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Jun 1 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 1 2006, 06:39 PM) HP 895 is really a good phone btw, but I feel it just lags something compared to sound output from Whafedale Diamond 9.1 that I heard not too long ago... I can't quite picture it in words because I am still entry level audio-apprentice That's why I am giving headphones another try by ordering HD595 just make sure you use subjective audio terms in your review and i'm sure you'll be fine. and do post a review. against the SHP895. |
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Jun 2 2006, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 2 2006, 03:38 AM) First of the first. Do you know why you are listening music? If you don't know your objective, there are no points for you to get to know further. Unless you want to be hardware geek which enslaving by caps, opamps, solder wick, PCB, what what funny name design and so on; ending up become Audiomaniac not audiophile (music listener). ya ya. and by the time you realize it, you might have just spent a few Ks on electronics rather than on your audio setup and you'll say "wahlau, i'm so stupid. this workbench costed me 1 HD650, 1 K701, a few HP1000 and if i don't start, i might just be able to pimp meself an Audio Technica woody by now". but hey, you won't get worshipped like an audio god, but surely you'll get respected as an electronic some listen to cables, power cables, RCA jacks, stereo minijacks, and use subjective audioterms to describe and can't support it off with science. some on the other hand, listen to Opamps, resistor sound, capacitor sound, solder sound, PCB sound, and different design sound signatures and could support it with engineering, science and test results. yet most won't believe the latter. mainly because not everyone could speak in engineering language. and upgrading the RCA jack/interconnects is easier than upgrading the output stage to your amps or upgrading the power section to a particular design. This post has been edited by thedoctor: Jun 2 2006, 12:16 PM |
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Jun 2 2006, 12:15 PM
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^ and i might just get flamed for that.
but in reality, both are the same. some tweak their sound by changing cables, while some change the internals. some swear by putting coins on top of their speakers and try to make it 'smoother' by doing that, while some change the Opamps to get a smoother signature. some upgrade to silver cables to get better 'transparency' and 'detail', while some upgrade the decoupling capacitors to get to the same effect. and IMHO, Opamps costs less than Bullet Plugs and Polypropylene capacitors costs less than silver cables/audiograde cables. |
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Jun 13 2006, 12:04 AM
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^ yeah, you guys should stop spreading false rumours. let's not turn this place into Head-Fi.
maybe someone needs to write some kind of comparo against those two non-branded headamp mentioned up there. but wait, someone already does that, a while back. PcWork, have you ever heard of them personally? i mean, they're not hard to build, and you should be experienced enough to build them and test the sound. them class ABs i mean. |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 13 2006, 10:31 AM) You are not an audiophile yet or particular on clean sounding yet, that's why you have this statement. There is a local DIY DAC which using UPS battery (not the UPS itself) to powering the DAC to get the best juice out of it. ya ya. i'm sure it takes quite a long while to get one's ears used to the audiophile sound (or the audiophile world for that matter). so for the rest of us that haven't gotten the golden ears yet, or not yet got the audiophile ceritificate, we could only base our opinions on something like this : ![]() ^ that shows the noise floor of batteries when driving a load. or this particular graph, shown in tnt-audio : ![]() that shows the noise floor of batteries (unloaded) VS batteries (loaded) VS regulators. which clearly shows that batteries have higher noise floor/transient response/frequency response (when loaded) than the all time ever sucky regulators + AC power implementation. but then again, whoever listens to test results, right? people listens to audio signal, rather than test equipment. but still, saying that batteries are the cleanest source of power or that it has the cleanest sound (which i'm sure meaning low noise floor/pink noise/freq response/transient response) is kindda a hoax. or a statement that has no scientific support or yet-to-be-tested-and-supported. but then again, i'm sure it's just me, who's not an audiophile. and that i'm wrong to trust test results and test equipment rather than subjective audiophile |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:33 PM
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^ and trust me, there's a whole lot more where that came from. results i mean. both supported by pictorial graph and colourful lines/bars that have a meaning to it. supported by schematics, engineering facts, scientific theories/theorems and a whole lot of reading.
and i doubt anyone would even be interested to read the hundreds of technical posts regarding the audiophile VS technical geek arguments regarding whichever is the cleanest source of power. yeah sure, attend the next AV Fest and meet with some audiophile and talk to them. or listen to equipments powered by both AC plug and batteries and judge by that. but then again, i doubt the upcoming AV Fest will have anything even close to the ALW's improved Jung's Super Regulator implementation mainly for the fact that them ALW's circuits sells for more than USD300 (for something that could only output 200-300mA of power). so that will be biased, no? because one would be comparing a high end battery, to a simple low end regulator implementation. |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:53 PM
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and wondering, why not ask them all hailed audiophiles attend something like a research conference or research seminars instead?
maybe some of the worlds greatest audiophiles should attend the upcoming LAC2007 - the 5th International Linux Audio Conference which will be held in Technical University Berlin and tell the world of their subjective i'm sure they will be hundreds of Professors, Associate Professors, PhD holders and experienced Engineers attending his time-slot. and that it will be bombarded with all sorts of questions by briliant minds that WILL see even the slightest of weak-point and attack on that, until you're speechless. |
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