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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V26, 26 threads of waxing

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post Jul 25 2012, 09:54 PM

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David's day so exciting, I jelly unsure.gif

boring nite yawn.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 12:36 PM)
Told you already, look for our own V12kontena V12kompressor ma tongue.gif
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He sarawak lah... doh.gif

BTW, saw you at MRR2 just now. whistling.gif

QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jul 25 2012, 02:28 PM)
guyz what is suitable rim size for flx manual? now using 13 inc steel rim...14 and 15inc tyre mahal or not? actually want to fit flx se rim to my 1.3 flx la..but dreaming only lol
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14 and 15 inc tire price gap isnt huge... jumping to 16 inch however....is a whole different league.

QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:35 PM)
not very sure about this because lazy to take the service booklet inside the car tongue.gif
btw 60k make sense because AT car change their transmission oil at 40k  hmm.gif
if you free, can go check the service booklet and let us know  tongue.gif
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60k
60k
60k
60k

60k!!!!

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
CVT 60k km, AT 20k km ma, no?
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AT is 40k, but people who skeptikal about the longevity of AT box will go for every 20k.
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Saga promo:

Standard CVT: disc RM 2,000
Standard MT: Disc RM 500

Executive CVT: Discount RM 1,800 (+personal RM 200)
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Hurry get your Saga now before price increase!

*rebate subject to change without prior notice.

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post Jul 25 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 25 2012, 09:58 PM)
He sarawak lah... doh.gif

BTW, saw you at MRR2 just now. whistling.gif
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Ya saw you too. You tak pasang headlamp wan ah, only fog lamp and small lamp hmm.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 09:59 PM)
Ya saw you too. You tak pasang headlamp wan ah, only fog lamp and small lamp  hmm.gif
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yup. thats my way. icon_idea.gif

see me drive like uncle liao? Belip me liao????

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post Jul 25 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 25 2012, 10:00 PM)
yup. thats my way. icon_idea.gif

see me drive like uncle liao? Belip me liao????
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Why u disappear so soon geh? really so slow meh I was going 60km/h waiting for you to ketchup hmm.gif masuk pandan indah liao?

tak pasang headlamp, tak takut saman ka? whistling.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:08 PM

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masuk pandan indah lah.... wan folo u to cheras for what. lolololollll

i passed block before, with the same small light + foggies combination. That was before I tint my windows lah.
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 25 2012, 10:08 PM)
masuk pandan indah lah.... wan folo u to cheras for what. lolololollll

i passed block before, with the same small light + foggies combination. That was before I tint my windows lah.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif

Some joker at Myvi tered kena blok before becoz of small lamp + foggies combi.

Maybe polis takut your DRL and bumper stripes flex.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 10:10 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Some joker at Myvi tered kena blok before becoz of small lamp + foggies combi.

Maybe polis takut your DRL and bumper stripes  flex.gif
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lol. no comment.

if that pulis really tak suka you, he can find 1001 excuses to nail you down.
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 25 2012, 08:01 PM)
this fuelly really weird. just now fill petrol rm40. then key in on fuelly, i get 10.6l/100km. i do manual calculation and its same answer. huhuhu  smile.gif
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If you're using Fuelly you must fill your tank full to the brim for the consumption to be accurate.

Here's how it works. You fill up full, note the odo (I prefer this method to resetting the trip meter) and then drive till your next fill up. Since you started with the full tank, the amount of petrol consumed divided by the distance gives you your consumption.

If you fill up a fixed amount, RM 40 and drive on, the calculation is inaccurate because you didn't start off with a full tank so there's no way to know how much fuel you used on that trip.
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 25 2012, 08:59 PM)
Really enjoy your long story...

Anyway, other than the differences are due to different brand of RSB+FSB, how about the tyre difference? Although same is 195/55/15, but rubber is different right? Won't it also affect the front/rear feedback? hmm.gif
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Generally, there are too much difference although the 2 cars are similar. We didn't have enough time to summarize/conclude what are the major difference. He's using 8 thin spokes rim + bridgestones dunno what model tayar. Whereas mine is 7 spoke(thinker) rim + falken ez522,252,552,255,525.... can't remember which model ady. My car rear wheels was slightly deflated during the test run to accommodate my RSB.

The very beginning round he took MY car out for a crazy spin, that time I hasn't understand HIS car's characteristics. Which means, he actually can get us killed when he attacking the corner at 110kmh that I did 80kmh. Although didn't hear tyre screeching sound, but I felt the car was floating ady blink.gif

From what I can conclude, his tyre really good. I hit the brakes quite hard before reaching the U-Turn at IJN, there is no sign of jamming at all. The tyre grip is virtually biting the road until I had a too damn early braking point that almost hit the curb. At the 80km/h corner(that he does 110kmh in my car), the road feedback is still there, but the steering somehow become unpredictable. I don't know what should I do, continue accelerating? It could end up understeer all the way, take out the railing and short cut land on Sg.Besi Toyota. If I release throttle, become over steer and hit the inner railing and land back on Jalan Istana west bound. I kinda understand how he does the 120kmh at the corner by continue accelerating, just that I really dont have the guts to do it, scared that once the limit of the tyre habis, then we're done. sweat.gif

Overall, I think both ULAR and 3MAX did their own research work. At any corner of the ULAR car, the rear is much steady compare to mine. It really pushing the wheel arch apart and supporting all the corners very well. I imagine if my car has that bar on it, I'll be screeching my rear falkens even more often. There is very little room for stretching/compressing at the back of the car with ULAR on it. Even go through uneven road, I can felt the whole butt being pulling together(may be placebo lar).

On the other hand, my familiar 3MAX setup become more obvious after tested ULARs. I'd say I made the right choice of 3MAX FSB. It's more on accuracy/perfection/less error in cornering/good feedback compare to ULAR. Every corner, the road feedback is precise. I'll have to confident in controlling. The same corner I attack over and over again, I will have the sixth sense of where the car will end up. I can judge my next action whether to keep it oversteer/understeer. Also, after tested ULAR RSB I totally agreed 3MAX RSB wasn't as strong as ULAR(again, may be placebo). I felt the rear wheel traction of ULAR RSB is more depending on the front wheel adjustment, but then 3MAX is more like it has to follow the road condition to decide where we should go. I can't imagine what would happen if anyone put an 3MAX FSB + ULAR RSB shakehead.gif You'll have the control freak type of front food work, and super glue type of rear wheel traction that follows exactly what your front wheel does. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Once again, to conclude ULAR kinda setup is very reasonable. Decent upgrade in control + very good rear action. You wouldn't feel the car has upgraded anything, it felt exactly like a stock BLM, but when you push the limit, you'll feel the emphasized on absorbers/springs/tyre traction has upgraded on the spot. Whereas 3MAX gave that type of ABNORMAL feeling to your car. You feel suddenly your car's characteristic has changed. You know exactly what had happened to your car. You bite the corner with your 3MAX FSB, and you know where exactly you'll end up. Even if you hit a stone, the car bounced up you also can estimate how far the car will jump and prepare for steering correction hmm.gif Come to think of it, Luke did took off his 3MAX FSB and immediately he cannot tahan already. After today, I wouldn't use ULAR to compare with 3MAX anymore. They're both different product and different characteristic, also understand those ULAR die hard fan why like ULAR so damn much and refused to change. It's so comfortable and so normal that you don't even need to readjust your driving habit, just keep attacking corner until you're satisfied. For performance driven geeks, after tasted 3MAX... frankly you will not want anything less than FULL CONTROL and became a control freak!
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 09:54 PM)
David's day so exciting, I jelly unsure.gif

boring nite yawn.gif
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Those are out of agenda. Was originally going home to change Iswaga, then send for 3MAX upgrade today. Because the client came and boss call for a meeting, therefore late jor and FFK Marhaihai. Whilst sending document to his car before lunch, and saw his ikan masin hanger laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:53 PM

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Nice story, Unker Dave. As usual I got mentioned tongue.gif Dunno what's so special about my Gaga laugh.gif

Didn't drive my Gaga today, instead I took my mum's car, a 2004 Hyundai Elantra 1.8 which I drove for five years before the Gaga. Just like old times.

Took my friend to Teluk Bahang via Teluk Kumbar and Balik Pulau. That means we drove round the whole island on the side which nobody goes to. With my friend around I didn't wanna scare him attacking corners, but I wasn't exactly slowpoke either.

The Huyndai goes around corners well, it's nice and stable because it's lower, wider and heavier than the Gaga. The absorbers were replaced at the end of last year so they're fairly new. The mileage is low for its age, 85k km.

On the other hand the steering is too light and feedbackless, plus the 4AT is rubbish for windy and twisty roads. There's no engine braking, something which I miss very much in my manual Gaga. All in all I find a manual tranny still the best for driving on the roads I covered today, nothing beats the precise throttle control coupled with freedom of selecting gears and engine breaking.

I missed my Gaga today. Will drive it on the same route again after my friend leaves.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to EON to have a new clutch pedal assembly fitted for free, under warranty. The old one squeaks and squeals sometimes depending to the weather.

Oh and I asked my friend which car was more comfortable, since I must have covered about 80-90 km today in the Elantra and about twice as much mileage in the Gaga. He answered, the Gaga thumbup.gif

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old korean cars is nice to drive. As long as fuel consumption doesnt come into mind.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 25 2012, 10:54 PM)
old korean cars is nice to drive. As long as fuel consumption doesnt come into mind.
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The consumption when I was driving it last time was pretty bad. I know I just explained the importance of filling up till the brim, but in those days when I didn't know better I used to drive till the warning light came on, then fill 40 litres. I'd get about 360 km for the 40 litres. My Gaga, can easily do the same distance on 30 litres or less. But it's not fair to compare, after all it's 1.8 vs 1.3, 4AT cs 5MT.

Today I filled up at a Petronas along the way to Balik Pulau, the fuel gauge was almost pointing to empty but the warning light wasn't turned on. Managed to get about 50 litres in blink.gif After about 80 km of driving the gauge is still pointing at full. I guess it's because I didn't get tangled in traffic today, the roads were pretty free flowing. Okay I know judging consumption is inacurate so take this with a huge pinch of salt.

My father was considering selling off the Elantra due to its age and consumption but having spent quite a bit repairing it last year (alternator broke down, replaced with new one and as mentioned, new absorbers and tyres, XM2) and as my mum only uses it to go to the market, we'll prolly keep it for some time more.

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post Jul 25 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 25 2012, 10:53 PM)
Nice story, Unker Dave. As usual I got mentioned tongue.gif Dunno what's so special about my Gaga laugh.gif
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Unker obsessed with your car dy since that nite. Don't be alarmed when you're driving in Penang and see a white Gaga or Iswara quietly following you ph34r.gif

Anyways, if not for the gross intrusion of bootspace, the UR rear strut bar would be the better choice since it ties directly to the rear towers. But, 3max's RSB compromises between practicality and effectiveness, so I have no complains either, it really is up to the individual. I confirm cannot use the UR RSB since bootspace is important to me.

Just wondering, is it so difficult to design a RSB that ties to the rear seat area like the 3max one, then at each end extends out 90 degress and tie to the strut tower?
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i drive a korean car before, hyundai atos. lousy car mad.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 11:22 PM

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Hi all~~
i just get my 2nd hand blm 09 year MT 1.3 on monday ><

add me in the owner list thx
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post Jul 25 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 11:08 PM)
Unker obsessed with your car dy since that nite. Don't be alarmed when you're driving in Penang and see a white Gaga or Iswara quietly following you ph34r.gif

Anyways, if not for the gross intrusion of bootspace, the UR rear strut bar would be the better choice since it ties directly to the rear towers. But, 3max's RSB compromises between practicality and effectiveness, so I have no complains either, it really is up to the individual. I confirm cannot use the UR RSB since bootspace is important to me.

Just wondering, is it so difficult to design a RSB that ties to the rear seat area like the 3max one, then at each end extends out 90 degress and tie to the strut tower?
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Hehe I shall look out behind for a white Gaga/Iswaga now laugh.gif

Yes boot space is important to me too (which is the whole point of getting a Gaga) so I definitely will not have an ikan masin hanger in my boot. I think I'll get the RSB when I'm back in KL. Now where's Mahihi? brows.gif


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QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jul 25 2012, 11:22 PM)
Hi all~~
i just get my 2nd hand blm 09 year MT 1.3 on monday ><

add me in the owner list thx
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Velcome rclxms.gif What colour and trim?

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post Jul 25 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 25 2012, 10:53 PM)
Nice story, Unker Dave. As usual I got mentioned tongue.gif Dunno what's so special about my Gaga laugh.gif
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The GaGa twins is Penang kia, dunno whether you guys will bump into each other brows.gif Driving style, agressive like a penang kia no doubt.

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 11:08 PM)
Unker obsessed with your car dy since that nite. Don't be alarmed when you're driving in Penang and see a white Gaga or Iswara quietly following you ph34r.gif
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We already have arrangement smile.gif Thank you for your concern.

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 11:08 PM)
Anyways, if not for the gross intrusion of bootspace, the UR rear strut bar would be the better choice since it ties directly to the rear towers. But, 3max's RSB compromises between practicality and effectiveness, so I have no complains either, it really is up to the individual. I confirm cannot use the UR RSB since bootspace is important to me.

Just wondering, is it so difficult to design a RSB that ties to the rear seat area like the 3max one, then at each end extends out 90 degress and tie to the strut tower?
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Err... I think 3MAX purposely reduce the stiffness of the rear part to accommodate the crazy front maneuverability. Otherwise, they don't even designed it, just simply hook some bars and call it their product blink.gif You ask me 10 times I also wont go ULAR, but I'd like to see what can happen to a car with front 3MAX + rear ULAR whistling.gif

If I go design my rear strut bar, it will be welding 2 bars crossing each others from 1 end strut tower to the other end C pillar ph34r.gif

QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jul 25 2012, 11:22 PM)
Hi all~~
i just get my 2nd hand blm 09 year MT 1.3 on monday ><

add me in the owner list thx
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Finally report in le meh? Faitit post photo lar! Let them jelly your "new" ride icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:14 PM)
no percaya kah?
last time i use to drive like ah pek style, nah... Fuelly
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That's better than mine rclxms.gif I hereby crown you FC champion of LYN BLM Club thumbup.gif

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