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post Jul 25 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:14 PM)
no percaya kah?
last time i use to drive like ah pek style, nah... Fuelly
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Then it is driver problem, not engine oil. laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 25 2012, 04:48 PM)
ask do rotation and c ur rim got bengkok or not 1st.. or wait other sifu to comment ur problem~!
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jul 25 2012, 04:49 PM)
if you come to my shop.

i terus poison you new tire or new sport rim smile.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 25 2012, 04:51 PM)
ur shop... mana ur shop...wakakak  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 04:52 PM)
If your tire goyang til wheel balancing also kenot correct, then send anywhere also no use dy.

You can get a second opinion at outside tire shops, reputable ones, do on-wheel balancing if you can.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 25 2012, 04:55 PM)
lolz... depend workshop ppl.... my place here they do rotation and c whether got out of shape or not...
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reputable tyre shops ah, got any recommended tyre shop around Seri Kembangan or Puchong? hopefully rim dont bengkok else $$$ fly again cry.gif


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post Jul 25 2012, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:38 PM)
Then it is driver problem, not engine oil.  laugh.gif
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that's why i asking, if same driver, but switch from 10w-40 oil to 15w-50, any changes in FC or not... doh.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:35 PM)
not very sure about this because lazy to take the service booklet inside the car tongue.gif
btw 60k make sense because AT car change their transmission oil at 40k  hmm.gif
if you free, can go check the service booklet and let us know  tongue.gif
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CVT 60k km, AT 20k km ma, no?
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:43 PM)
that's why i asking, if same driver, but switch from 10w-40 oil to 15w-50, any changes in FC or not...  doh.gif
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doh.gif You ask me for what? FC is depends on the driver driving style mah. doh.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jul 25 2012, 05:39 PM)
reputable tyre shops ah, got any recommended tyre shop around Seri Kembangan or Puchong? hopefully rim dont bengkok else  $$$ fly again  cry.gif
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Rim bengkok still can repair. If tire imbalance til kenot fix, then have to change lor.
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:43 PM)
that's why i asking, if same driver, but switch from 10w-40 oil to 15w-50, any changes in FC or not...  doh.gif
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Honestly how much u expect FC will change? Just give some %?
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2012, 05:49 PM)
Rim bengkok still can repair. If tire imbalance til kenot fix, then have to change lor.
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I thought those rim that can repair must be sport rim? mine is FL Executive, normal basic rim right?
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post Jul 25 2012, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
doh.gif You ask me for what? FC is depends on the driver driving style mah.  doh.gif
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i was asking dares that time... tongue.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 25 2012, 05:50 PM)
Honestly how much u expect FC will change? Just give some %?
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no idea, just asking, just want to know does it increase or decrease in FC, anyway time to stop FC topic/// sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jul 25 2012, 06:02 PM)
I thought those rim that can repair must be sport rim? mine is FL Executive, normal basic rim right?
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FL exec is steel rim with plastic cover meh?
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Don't read this if you don't have time!

Met another client today, whilst sending a big stack of document to his car, found his white BLM B-Line. As I put document in his boot, found out ULAR RSB in the house! BLM with ULAR FSB+RSB+195/55R15+sagat!!! Twin brother of my GaGa. We had a little chat immediately in love... With each others car wub.gif We test drove each others car during lunch hour, until now only come back from lunch. Both of us left with happiness and bunch of idea exchange between our kar & driving techniques. Here's the detail of our short lunch tauke before he go back Penang.

Begun with my car. He did some zigzag at Jalan Lumut, squeezes us out to Bdr Tun Razak via Bulatan Pahang. He found my steering response is much better than his, more feedback. Went down IJN u-turn, no double clutch, car jerk abit but still finishes the uturn beautifully thumbup.gif then full throttle (didn't go redline since not his car) from 2nd shift to top gear. Slowdown at Titiwangsa LRT due to traffic + bumpy road. He mention rear part of the car is slorppy shakehead.gif I wasn't impressed by his comment as I got RSB! Off he continue, taking about 160 along Jln Istana. He said he doesn't wanna push it since he's not familiar with my car. I was thinking shakehead.gif r u serious?! After Istana connecting Sg Besi is a huge curve, downshift to 3rd gear maintain 110kmh! I was sked remind him the road is uneven, he said he does 120 normally doh.gif Along old airport road was all 140kmh zigzagging slow traffic. I almost did not faint! Stop at Sg Besi Petron drink coffee. This guy is nuts! I can smell burning clutch and bet the brakes was stretched beyond my Genting downhill experience. Overall feedback was both our car pretty close characteristic. Problem with my car was the back a little slorppy. He suspect 3MAX didn't connect both wheel arch, certain allowance of chassis flex are ALLOWED that causes MORE bodyroll. With proper driving skill can actually achieve higher cornering speed, but when it lose control, there will be no turning back because by the time my wheels would be offroad. F*cking impressive review. Many more other input but I forgot to bring a notepad to jod down everything. On the way back road was clear, I was doing 160 to match his driving style(only he learnt double clutching + single clutch synchronize method) He wasn't commenting as concerntrate learning my driving style. He was claiming my driving is fast + comfortable type. He felt safe yet was not lossing the boiling point. He enjoyed my driving and confident I can handle his car well. Then he handover his key... Another chapter begun!

As I turn the key, starter cranking noise exactly the same like Luke's SE blink.gif Not noisy at all. What's wrong with my car!!! Engine response was sponteneous! Exactly like Luke's, if not BETTER! The car is light but bumpy. As I got out to Jln Ipoh, ULAR RSB can be felt. Its entirely different! It felt like the whole car being glued to the ground! We took the same route heading IJN uturn. 2x single clutch, jerk abit on the 1st clutching downshift to 3rd gear due to unfamiliar of throttle response, but from 3rd to 2nd was nice. Braking point was TOO EARLY, almost hit the curb shakehead.gif as I reverse steering to correct angle, RSB in play, rear wheel follow exactly to my front wheels correction - IN OUT IN- immediately full throttle red line! Very impressive setup! We slowdown again at Titiwangsa LRT and continue our journey with around 140-160, but I was more on 4th gear instead of 5th to keep engine rev hai. Was using all the racing line and braking line. As we reach Sg Besi after Istana, I bang to 3nd gear did 80kmh(30kmh less compare to his driving my car). Here comes the problem, the front part of the car was very slorppy in my opinion. I wasn't sure where his car will end up(or LANDED if lose control). 10s of 100s of correction on that corner alone. I had no idea how he claims he did 120 with this front setup. We did between 110-140 at old air port without zigzagging much as I'm not that kinda moron. He was complaining me driving like makcik ady. Again we landed at Petron Sg Besi, I expressed my concern, as not neccessarily drive like a samseng to test the car handling. I also mentioned his weak point of the front setup. The tend to lose control characteristic of his front setup could be the next testimonial for ULAR website. He kinda puzzled by my comment, but happily accepted after awhile. On the way back, he took my advice, maintain 90kmh at airport museum and he can tell what I meant. All thesewhile he's been replying on tayar grip to survive all his corner. He said its hard to control when not pushin the tayar limit at corner. We didn't stop at my office, took the same track again heading IJN so he practice single clutching. Suprisingly he managed to follow my driving style. This round he pay more attention to the steering feeling and wasn't doing all the zigzag circus stunt. He was trying to catch the Sg.Besi from Istana at higher speed, at 3rd gear 110kmh, but I can tell his steering is not feeding him enough info this time. So he "jot" and brake, had a small slide and capture back quickly shakehead.gif I ask him still dare to do 120 at this corner next time? He grin a bit but didn't reply. We decided not to stop at Petron this time, continue all the way until we turn back from Desa Petaling. Along the way nothing much in record, more on coaching and driving sensually.

Reach office again, he demand me to drive him with my car again so he can learn more on my car & my driving. We drove to Jln Ipoh Shell inflate my tyres to 36psi all 4, off we went let him hear my rear wheel screetching, but mostly heavy traffic already. The rest are normal chitchatting. We say goodbye to each other at 6pm. He promised to join the next midnight run if he come to KL next round.

Final note: forgot to take photo & ask his number, how is he going to contact me next time? doh.gif Just now went in office collect my bag, boss ask "u send document to Ipoh ar?" I cincai answer went lunch with client only lar. Now I'm having my "lunch" at mamak whilst typing this paragraph.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 25 2012, 07:00 PM)
Don't read this if you don't have time!

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post Jul 25 2012, 08:01 PM

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that's weird

i try open and close boot. it seems ok. no need to force shut
now, this is the really weird thing

my habit on boots is stand infront of it, use 2 hand and close. but i wont close properly. so, forcing it then can close
but unexpectedly, i stand next to boot (not infront), shut it with one hand and wallah... it closed.... blink.gif

this fuelly really weird. just now fill petrol rm40. then key in on fuelly, i get 10.6l/100km. i do manual calculation and its same answer. huhuhu smile.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 25 2012, 06:32 AM)
1) Load the bat3 before test, to check how much dry on your bat3
2) Load the bat3 when car started, check altenator jalan a not
3) Load the bat3 again after engine stop, to make sure your bat3 sure talak masuk cas baru konfirm KO

Its perfectly normal and according to standard bat3 checking procedure. Just that, whether did you open the sticker and check water 1st. If you did not check... there is a good chance workshop fella going to tear it off, top up bat3 water and sell 2nd hand bat3 for RM50/piece, and the new owner prolly going to enjoy 2nd hen bat3 up to another 1 ~ 2 years. In short, you rugi lah! *if the bat3 do running low on bat3 fluid the time it discharge quickly
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Did check the water level. almost dried up. put some battery water, the car OK for a while. after few days, car again hesitated to start . BTW, why workshop still buy kaput battery? tolak to them for 10 ringgit. is the battery still repairable or something?

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Jul 25 2012, 08:04 PM)
Did check the water level. almost dried up. put some battery water, the car OK for a while.  after few days, car again hesitated to start . BTW,  why workshop still buy kaput battery?  tolak to them for 10 ringgit. is the battery still repairable or something?
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The nickle plate still worth a few bucks can be clean up and recycle. Casing still can be recycle when they put in new nicle plate. Your case could be these facts:

1) Those plates has been running dry for too long, even you top up water doesn't channel enough ION to recharge itself. In short, died prematurely.

2) Those plates already died. That's all, better luck next time.

3) hmm.gif what is your normal travel distance? Normally I'll drive without air-con when I have a full discharged bat3(for example forgot to switch off headlamps), to recharge it 9 9 by driving it long distance to recharge it. If your plates not dead, it could be not enough charge... may be

Since change jor, then don't think too much lor blink.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 25 2012, 08:21 PM)
The nickle plate still worth a few bucks can be clean up and recycle. Casing still can be recycle when they put in new nicle plate. Your case could be these facts:

1) Those plates has been running dry for too long, even you top up water doesn't channel enough ION to recharge itself. In short, died prematurely.

2) Those plates already died. That's all, better luck next time.

3) hmm.gif what is your normal travel distance? Normally I'll drive without air-con when I have a full discharged bat3(for example forgot to switch off headlamps), to recharge it 9 9 by driving it long distance to recharge it. If your plates not dead, it could be not enough charge... may be

Since change jor, then don't think too much lor blink.gif
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i drive only 15km home to office. my only concern is that the battery guy did push the load button many times before
declaring my battery as inop. as per your procedure only 3times are enough. takot kena potong. if yes, i will gladly ban the workshop.

btw, as you said, tukar already, no need to think much.

This post has been edited by wanfauzan: Jul 25 2012, 08:49 PM
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post Jul 25 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 25 2012, 07:00 PM)
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Really enjoy your long story...

Anyway, other than the differences are due to different brand of RSB+FSB, how about the tyre difference? Although same is 195/55/15, but rubber is different right? Won't it also affect the front/rear feedback? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Jul 25 2012, 08:42 PM)
i drive only 15km home to office. my only concern is that the battery guy did push the load button many times before
declaring my  battery as inop. as per your procedure only 3times are enough. takot kena potong. if yes, i will gladly ban the workshop.

btw, as you  said, tukar already, no need to think much.
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May be its not that bad lar nod.gif Bcoz the meter can't tarek that much also. If he go load several time then your battery ady running out of charge, which means its not keeping charge well ady. You can imagine if you stop the car at night, it left 12.5V, but it discharge quickly, by tomolo it left 11.7V then you have hard time trying to crank your engine lor. I think load several time to scare you quickly change bat3 is very normal lar, even if this workshop doesn't do the next 1 also will do. But normally grease monkey like me, I'll ask him to load 1 time then let me see the reading by myself.

1) Stop car for more than 15minutes, get him load the bat3 to see how much left inside, should be around 12.5V
2) Start the car see how much it charge. 13.8 ~ 14.1 is very healthy alternator(no load, running idling speed)
3) Stop engine, immediately load the bat3 and see how much it drop.

Since change ady, nothing left you can do nod.gif just enjoy the new bat3 and the peace of mind
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waaaa last visited was last monday night & now already 10++ pages of new posts. so active aa u guys. hard to keep up la if like this. really talk about car or talk2 kosong onli haa?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(smudge @ Jul 25 2012, 09:09 PM)
waaaa last visited was last monday night & now already 10++ pages of new  posts. so active aa u guys. hard to keep up la if like this. really talk about car or talk2 kosong onli haa?? tongue.gif
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