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davidke20
post Jul 30 2012, 11:32 AM

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Luke, am trying to de-poison you regarding 3MAX RSB, then re-poison you again with ULAR RSB whistling.gif

R3ap3rs, here I cum join you the ULAR force brows.gif kena poisoned by the GaGa the evil twins RSB liao. The rear setup that felt like macpherson instead of hard torsion ady drove me crazy! Until yesterday ady 5 days didn't have good sleep, keep on having the rear wheel back tracking front tyres kinda dejavu whenever close my eyes.
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 30 2012, 11:51 AM)
So now wanna demod 3max RSB ka? cheap cheap sell to me la  brows.gif

Dunno who say die die also dowan ULAR RSB  whistling.gif
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You got me there, so I change the term abit-Temporay remove. Really feels like wanna try ULAR+3MAX. Precise steering action to rear immediate traction,will be more than interested to find out how great this combination can be. Most prolly gonna resell the ULAR if can't convince wifey to have a tiang there, beside she might not notice either whistling.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(hw88 @ Jul 30 2012, 01:48 PM)
3.6k RPM for the BLM at 100kmh?

if it is true then it seems pretty high.

then FC should be  sweat.gif

hopefully manual FLX owners here can give feedback on their RPM at 100kmh.. hmm.gif
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Just tested, arnd 100kmh dropping speed from 120kmh, RPM3150. Increase speed infront of Batu Caves from 80kmh to 100kmh, RPM3200. Maintain speed at 100kmh near Karak exit, RPM3100. Settle.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 30 2012, 01:59 PM)
please anyone provide kenjilew's car for test drive car spec.
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Please take my car out from the test drive list. No more hutan bakar ady whistling.gif nothing special liao. Wanna test BLM, go find Kenjilew icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 30 2012, 07:33 PM)
p/s: On a side note, pretty disappointed the Cafeteria was closed and I had to walk 20 minutes(per trip) for lunch! ohmy.gif
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Tak puasa! vmad.gif

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Went EA today, reach there talked to DREX, then immediately forgotten about the sleeve wheel arch thing blink.gif and the picture above took place.

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Was fetching my kid and wifey out when I reached, kid took the front seat! DARN, 1st thing wifey got into the car and she ask:

W: WTF is underneath the carpet
shakehead.gif OMG! So fast found out!!!
Me: Must be just now went service the magician left a magic wand there
W: What is it gotta do with a crowbar in the cockpit when changing engine oil at the engine bay
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Me: Err....Ah, the oil filter couldn't come off, we had to use a crowbar to kiao the damn thing out, later magician go inside check the odometer reading left the bar there
W: Why is it screwed on the car?
ohmy.gif Running out of excuse
Me: Must be magician thought I need a crowbar incase road bully kacau, so he screw it there for precautious. So nice of him
W: Idiot, screwed there ady incase emergency where got time to take out?
Me: sweat.gif ...............(silent)
W: Anyway, how much he charged?
Me answer very quickly and confident: FREE! He no charge on the bill
W: Where is the bill?!
Me again very quickly: Throw away ady! Keep for what? Normal serbis oni mar
W: Next time bring ISWAGA go there service, ask him put another crowbar there, remember ask him dun screw it, otherwise how to take it out when needed. Bunch of idiots!

Me:..................................................................
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 30 2012, 09:24 PM)
I memang tak puasa blush.gif Anyway, I would be interested to know what improvements that rear lower brace brings as I'm also considering the 3Max's backseat brace.
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Takpe, YAB pon tak posa icon_idea.gif Janji ada niat mau posa dah la

To be fair to ULAR, I wouldn't make much comment right now as I only went through about 50km after installation. However, I have a rough idea on what's need to be done FIRST as, I think I'm the only sohigh that brace so much on a damn BLM... according to DREX.

If you ask my opinion now(before I have fully understand/running on the new stuff), I will still recommend you to do the rear brace LAST! I guess the rear seat area is the weakest point on all GaGa family, once the 3MAX braced on back seat, you feel your car goyang² when going through bumbs. Cornering if got lobang/stone, the car will jump and simulate a lose control. If you're not a sensitib driber, and if you did installed RSB before FSB, you'll probably lose out damn a lot of "mental upgrades" on your FSB, thats happened to me exactly. What I've been going through is suffering from the entire changed of driving habit after hook up RSB together with FSB. Until I test drive Luke's car with ONLY the FSB, then only I understand what are the difference. At the very beginning after I installed both FSB+RSB, I tend to lose control a lot as and when I take hard cornering. Until very much later only I discovered my steering action has to be readjust and tyre pressure need to be tune to match with the tighten butt of my car to avoid sliding, its not dangerous type of slide. Just you wouldn't bite an apex on street road and fling your tail out to achieve best time trial. My wife ady grind my right step seal after I installed both FSB+RSB cry.gif

If you decided to go for RSB only, then you're making a wrong decision. The effect of RSB will mislead you to think must have the FSB since the RSB is so damn good. Which happened to me exactly. Marhaihai once told me installed FSB 1st, but I insisted to have the RSB. After reverse the car out from the factory, IMMEDIATELY I drove back in and beg him to FSB my car doh.gif Now I understand his concern, if you're satisfied with the FSB, then just forget about the RSB. But if you hooked up the RSB 1st, then its a no turning back. You'll be hacking each corner faster and faster, driving like a boss. With RSB, you'll gradually hit the corner toe in, let the rear wheel grind your trail up to the apex and exit a corner without much correction like driving a rear wheel drive car. 3MAX RSB did an amazing job to the GaGa's butt and will put you to never ending record breaking cornering. Attacking corner with 3MAX FSB+RSB is exactly like below video, take note on the DC5 old Type-R, thats the kind of action you'll be having.


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post Jul 30 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 30 2012, 10:14 PM)
come out TT, then I will tell another uncle story that can back up all the above statement. biggrin.gif
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blink.gif you mean got another uncle have the exact same setup and suffering my kinda oversteering trauma?

QUOTE(GRexer @ Jul 30 2012, 10:19 PM)
Sounds about right the way I drive though, lift-off oversteer type of response I suppose? Then again, this ain't a proper RWD, the amount of control from a lift-off oversteer is totally different.
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Exactly, reduced rear tyre pressure actually is the key to keep the butt inline. I wouldn't say how much as I'm on 55 profile, but need to further inflate the front to make it balance so the car wouldn't cincai bit apex.
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post Jul 31 2012, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 30 2012, 10:34 PM)
yup. having the same pressure for all four tires is hazardous is the car has been fitted with FSB and RSB.
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Interested to know and understand how he felt about it

QUOTE(asrul @ Jul 30 2012, 11:38 PM)
so david,

pasang FSB on own car dulu then try your car to know difference with RSB only then decide?
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Err... I wouldn't allow you to whack my car, so you probably will not feel how it benefit. Besides, my car is my car, yours is yours. Having said that my car currently braced with FSB/RSB/RLB/Room bar, you probably don't know what affecting the handling. However, it's significant when you try a car braced with both FSB+RSB from ULAR.

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 31 2012, 12:16 AM)
FSB first. If tak puas hati, then only RSB.

For me, installing FSB make me even more aware of the rear's lembikness, so I'm going for RSB as well.

In fact, when we were installing the FSB, mahihi has shrewdly prophesized "you all shall come back for the RSB soon."  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Marhaihai purposely 1. After hooked up FSB ady, you'll immediately felt the back of the car goes pinching in and out when attacking corner. If already satisfied with the steering action/handling, some wouldn't mind just stop there.

QUOTE(manubis @ Jul 31 2012, 12:45 AM)
but what happen if already got UR FSB and ARB, then put 3 max RSB..
hope it will not give negative impact...
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Nope, should be fine. 3MAX RSB wasn't as strong character as ULAR RSB.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 31 2012, 01:08 AM)
So easy to get good consumption on the CVT. Just tekan gently saja. With a manual you have to make so many decisions about gear changes icon_question.gif

Not complaining btw. I'll never trade my stick shift for a CVT thumbup.gif
Oh my... I wonder how your Gaga's gonna feel like on the next test drive brows.gif
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For you to test drive my car, I don't mind. Just another YAB driving style, exact replicate of Unker Dave. However, let me further explore it 1st before I hand over the key. I have no idea what kind of hazard it will cause. I shall find out and brief you before you have a go with it just for precautioun. Sayang my car lar wub.gif

Meanwhile, what CVT consumption whistling.gif

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15.13km/l
12.58c/km
6.609l/100km

Credit goes to Matrix Neo Asad yawn.gif I already use double clutching technique to poison him, hope soon we'll be seeing another YAB icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 03:32 AM

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By the way Asad, here is what you're looking for during our discussion. The side impact wasn't really convincing indeed.

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post Jul 31 2012, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jul 31 2012, 02:32 AM)
any1 know how to post the bar,swt....
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put in a box, go to post office stick a piece of poslaju form on it, weight the thing and measure geometry, pay money then its good to go icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jul 31 2012, 04:55 AM)
Manual CVT by Hand  brows.gif  laugh.gif

Today my foot very light  sweat.gif
I wish I could take a closer look in the cabin after the side impact  hmm.gif
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And you call that light foot? Do you mind if I drive your car with a gauge, do another round of midnight run again? brows.gif

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post Jul 31 2012, 10:20 AM

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Here is some hailights on yesterday TCSS+poison session in EA with drexchan

1) I was requesting to install lower arm rack, but was aked by Drex what is my major concern. My answer is safety, he gently declined it with further explanation. The tofu rack may reject out during headon, so there's little effect on safety. Even if it doesn't reject, that means crumple zone may be compromised, could further endanger driver/passenger during headon. The main function of front lower arm rack is to reinforce the front members, has not been tested for safety purposes. Its not that Drex doesn't wanna do my business, its whether it serve my purpose - he added lansily

2) When asked about side lower bar. Drex explain, the whole design of the bottom part of GaGa is like 90% similar to an EXOGA, that makes GaGa's torsion rigidity very hai. If I were to mod side bars whilst not attacking track, its very hard to notice any significant improvement. Unker like me... even harder to feel the difference. He dun wan me later mod jor come back komplen say no improvement, for the time being not recommended, until I feel the need for speed - again he added this lansily notworthy.gif

Basically he's an arse if you don't know his character well, but the word came out of his mouth is informative & customer benefit concern. I finishes my 1st meetup with EA Autoworks with few packet of 8宝herbal tea & say goodbye to few hundrad bucks, in return is a crowbar underneath my carpet, not noticeable rear lower bar & plentiful of knowledge. Thank you EA Autoworks, thank you drexchan, thank you Bernard, thank you Howie, and thank you youngpunk that help to install crowbar,which haven't get a chance to introduce yet
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post Jul 31 2012, 12:39 PM

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My regular long distance travel will be Sg.Buloh entry NS way west bound, all the way to Tg Malim exit, then trunk road to Ipoh. My driving style ady well trained by harimau betina ady. If follow slowpoke at single lane, just stick to them and enjoy their hutan bakar yawn.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 01:46 PM

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GaGa can roar meh? No roar ark whistling.gif 5th gear goes 3rd gear must do twice single clutch, RPM will raise from 2.5k up to 4th gear 3.2k, then 3rd gear 4k flex.gif bem! Bem! Luke's famous drop gear sound without tranny shock + sound like GT500 icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jul 31 2012, 02:05 PM)
i tried once from 5th gear straight to 3rd gear and rpm rise madly, the power can feel it immdiately flow into driver and car body laugh.gif 
gear box will not injured rite with sudden drop 2 gear?
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Depend on how you do it.

1) From 5th gear shift to 3rd, 弹clutch, then the car jerk like mad - grind clutch faster

2) From 5th to 3rd, rev up then弹clutch, car no jerk but harm synchronizer

3) From 5th to 3rd, rev up immediate release gas pedal, 弹clutch at correct RPM match, then only continue acceleration - no harm done/very little if there is

4) YAB way, 5th to 4th declutch BEM! 4th to 3d declutch BEM! Sounded very YENG! Very little harm. 1 gear drop ratio less, synchronized better & less harm done + sound like racing/samseng icon_idea.gif

Cut the crap short, cum midnight run. YB Asad + YAB Luke is here to demo!

YB=Yang Bodoh (pregraduate of YAB)
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post Jul 31 2012, 03:50 PM

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Nope, the point is, BEM!BEM! Twice single clutch drop gear sounded very yeng laugh.gif the rest f*** it lar! icon_idea.gif As long as sounded garang, driver also feel bersemangat flex.gif BEM!BEM!

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post Jul 31 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jul 31 2012, 03:47 PM)
hi all, my wife's BLM aircond fan is not powerful enough.

i need to put the speed to 4 to feel the wind. is this normal? because my savvy fan speed at 2 already cold enough and can feel the wind.

edit: its a B-line BLM
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BLM newst also about 2 years old liao, got check cabin filter anot? Dirty cabin filter create air clog, blower can't blow wind very normal la icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 04:19 PM

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Summoning GRexer! wave.gif Please PM contact detail and meetup place. Tomolo will be in Puchong, where to send you the cabin filter? Not driving BLM tomorow, so no test drive. My precious BLM now is the interracial breed of 3MAX+ULAR laugh.gif damn proud

By the way, rap3r sudah kena caught in action masuk makamah agama ka? Feels long time didn't see him make noise. Wakakaka...
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envy you fellas la. day time no need to work geh, everyday forum², reply². even i reply will have to take time sit in the car slow² type. with best effort also only able to do 2 post in 1 page sweat.gif Better if so happen I got stuck in meeting/go out kacau other GaGa, late evening cum back will be 10 pages gone shakehead.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 31 2012, 05:24 PM)
Unker, why your middle name got 6 alphabets wan?


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Start wth the cheapest solution, then work your way up the price bracket  whistling.gif

Besides, Iskazulka and Unker dabid also came up with the same solution
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Name... ask my YAB senior that does 140mph on a mini cooper

Cabin filter.... blink.gif guess only

QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jul 31 2012, 05:34 PM)
flex.gif  sweat.gif
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Ahem... still in midnight run mood


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 31 2012, 06:10 PM)
For those whose car have been "touched" by Luke, here's a siggy pic for you  thumbup.gif

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Kalo mau sticker pun boleh arrange  tongue.gif
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notworthy.gif Please, how much to make sticker

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post Jul 31 2012, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 31 2012, 06:55 PM)
blink.gif Serious?

How big you want?
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Yes! Serious! Stiker PUSPAKOM saiz please, otherwise ma waifu will know

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