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post Jul 19 2012, 11:31 AM, updated 14y ago

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Hi all sifu, im confuse with the critical damage. Is that when critical hit means ignore mob def?
eg: now im at infero act2, ~50k dmg show on character stat when i use fury stack 5, 220% critical damage.
but i notice that when i normal hit mob that time if no critical average 14k, when critical that time from 25k-70k only.
If i use revenger if critical hit it will upto 120k.

so how the 220% critical damage work? or got any nice link can share? thx...

cos i notice that at character board there if u wear got critical damage eq, the damage will auto increase. Is that the damage show at character stat is the maximum damage u can get if do critical?

senario 1:
all gear is no critical damage %, damage is 20k.

senario 2:
all gear is same as senario 1 but just weapon add 100% critical damage, damage become 25k.

from senario 1 and senario 2, is that when do normal hit, both will get same damage if no critical? If yes, that means the damage show at character stat is not so accurate already... biggrin.gif


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post Jul 19 2012, 12:45 PM

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errmm let talk this example 1st:
case 1:
all gear is no critical damage %, damage is 20k.

case 2:
all gear is same as senario 1 but just weapon add 100% critical damage, damage become 30k.

lets assume we do the maximum normal dmg no critical.
From case 1, we will get 20k
From case 2, we get 20k or 30k?

lets assume we do max critical dmg,
case 1 we will get 20k?
case 2 we will get 30k or 60k?

TSAbbys
post Jul 19 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 01:00 PM)
It's hard to calculate something which is randomly generated and based on chance.
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ofcos i will not get constant damage... btw wat i assume here is let say we do max dmg... smile.gif
Just thinking of dps show at character stat there is real or fake if add in critical dmg % eq....

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post Jul 19 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 19 2012, 01:19 PM)
I also wonder the same. But from my experiance DPS is the average damage that one can dish out. Assuming you max damage 10k. With crit damage the sum goes up to 15k. The 5 diiference is computed from the avaerage chance of hitting crits. so if you have a higher crit chance your DPS will go up as you will crit more. Crit damage is constant but crit chance is not. Its based on random x crit chance%. Bottom line IMHO is ... base damage> ASI> Crit chance > Crit Damage. My preference is always ASI> Crit damage as...ASI is constant, i.e the more shots you get off..more chance of hitting crits. Also ASI build is more flexi, as you can move to LoH build. If you go pure crit damage build, hard to change later... Anyone want to add to the above please fell free?
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Yes im pure critical dmg with >50% critical chance... but critical dmg is not constant ler... i can able to see the critical with 22k, 40k, 50k, 70k, 80k ( for normal hit ). If use revenger skill will got > 100k if critical.
i also got monitor my dps show at char stat. eg: 55k dps but just deal 70k critical only with 220% critical damage.... cos with 55k dps and 220% critical dmg i assume it gv me 120k dmg for normal hit. but look like not.... nerf?
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 01:48 PM)
Correct but you confuse him more with the 1500 stat bonus. LOL.
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i know the 1500% ;p
let me go back try.
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post Jul 19 2012, 02:26 PM

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now i more clear already.... thx yah....
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post Jul 19 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 19 2012, 02:46 PM)
user posted image

some time i confuse also abt the critical damage

let say pic above . the soket we add another 100% critial damgae  . ignore the dex

total critical damage

199% , 784.8 dps weapon 1

70% , 870 dps weapon 2 .

which 1 will u equip ? which 1 boost more dps to the character
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for sure is weapon 1 will hv more dps on character status screen. tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 03:13 PM)
Ppl that has alot of dex will go for higher weapon dmg. Those that has high critical chance will go for critical dmg on weapon.
In your case. Let say the user has 5% critical chance ignoring all other bonuses.
First weapon, 0.5(crichance)*1.99(criticaldmg)+1=1.995*784= 1564DPS
Second weapon, 0.5(crichance)*0.7(criticaldmg)+1=1.35*870= 1174DPS
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ur 1st weapon imba.... USD250 sure got ppl buy... my fren sold more or less same with ur weapon, just dex change to str. no vit. sell 250usd
NO LIFE ON HIT lol...

This post has been edited by Abbys: Jul 19 2012, 03:19 PM
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(McSundae @ Jul 20 2012, 06:02 AM)
the damage show on your board is the max damage you do in critical damage with 100%damage (included ias, crit chance & crit damage)

can this statement help you?
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yeah after some test i oso feel the dmg show is max dmg i can do on critical with 100%dmg.... then this can tell me why dmg show on board 50k but normal hit i deal 15k.
If 50k is my real normal dmg then means the mob got ~70% def..... lol.... biggrin.gif
50k*220%=110k but cant get max... so that y i get 20k,50k, 80k critical dmg.

 

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