Maybe we shall summon upon any Trade Enforcer to join this conversation.

This post has been edited by HeHeHunter: Jul 19 2012, 12:41 AM

A very good idea kind sir.

U guys go sleep first lah...dun sakit2 kepala bout this...I'm the one who lost RM700+ here...money come n go bro silverfire...but reputation once tarnished, hard to get it back...keep that in mind. Peace.

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Added on July 19, 2012, 12:52 amLOL!! That xeiteris guy also on his successful trade list!! COD summore!! So funny broo~ nice try nice try...but try harder next time...peace~

Ps: I'm talkin to u HeHeHunter...btw thanks cracksys wanna know who's xeiteris? Read till finish this http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...lverfire... may I say I LOLED?

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Jul 19 2012, 12:58 AM

A LOT OF BULLSH*T.

Dear TS, tell me about how



can lead to




Impact damage
Screw missing
Aperture Problem
Replace G1, G2, G6 lens
AF Contact

Did you know that Replacement of G1, G2, G6 lens means that those groups of the elements are DEAD AND CAN'T BE USED?

It's either SHATTERED or MISALLIGNED. What caused it? Well you know the answer yourself. You did this to the lens, you yourself know what happened to it.



Picture above shows the 7 elements also as known as the optic glasses in 6 groups.

http://www.nikon.com.my/en_MY/product_deta...ntLink=gp11zl28

There, specification says 7 elements, 6 groups.

How does these glasses lead to AF failure?

I call it bullsh*t. I had a 18-200mm lens sent for AF motor repair before. Nikon didn't even quote me those damages before. Just a simple AF motor replacement.

Now about this picture:



Do you know what? Those 2 screws that you claimed



DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BREAK LENS APART.

You want to know what those 2 screws help with?



...

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MOUNTING UNIT ONLY. IT'S NOT HOLDING LENS TOGETHER FROM APERTURE RING TO THE BARREL. LENS DOESN'T BREAK APART BECAUSE OF 2 SCREWS.

Oh and, if you think that only 3 screws are holding the mounting unit in, I'm sorry to say, no. It's more than that. So your lens won't fall off.

Remember. if your element group died, you totally cannot use the lens at all because of distorted picture. Not because of AF. Don't tell me you use this lens and bear with the 3 element groupings failure for 1 month. I had sent Nikon lenses to warranty before. So don't think you can fool me with these terrible damages

Now tell me your side of your story. I am interested. 

This post has been edited by sakurakinomoto: Jul 19 2012, 01:20 AM

To Be Honest, i did not read the whole thread, but here is my queries and comments.

1. I cant see the missing screws in the pictures, but i did see there are 3 screws in the picture.. If that is the part where the screw was missing then im pretty sure its very notice-able, because its not in anyway concealed.
So it would be TS negligence if didnt noticed that, especially after knowing its a display aka used set, if i were TS i would have check thoroughly.

2. After know its a display/used set, i assume both side would have made a new warranty deal/period. So IMO for 2nd hand stuffs i would give/expect atleast 7 days and since problem occurs after 30 days then just consider bad luck.

3. IMO seller should take some responsibility if not all, for the blame/problems/issues incurred here too.


Lastly im on the fence here, not siding anyone but both sides also has your wrongs..
TS just consider bad luck, and seller i could congratulate atleast able to sold the item at a very good price

But anyhow Safe Trader tag just merely means the seller are able to delivers his/her deals and not a scammer...But does not guarantee such cases
Btw i noticed the Safe Trader tag FAQ was removed http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=37

My friend also have the same repair content as yours.
Why? Because he dropped his lens. Was a 24-70mm.

and looking at ur quotation, there is also impact content
which result in need of changing lens elements.



you sure you didn't drop the lens yourself and come here to start accusing ?

Unless Nikon the big firm trying to con you then different story.

Good luck.

That's really some nice clarification,it does really make sense about that.
Maybe TS could really explain the real story about that.
Because within the first month,it should be un-useable so many problem when the repair receipt was shown.
Then how come TS can use for a month without problem?

Another thing I do not understand. If the lens is his friend's. How did he take picture with the lens with his watermark? Also, why did seller self compensate instead of asking his friend to compensate as his friend did not state to seller that it was a demo unit. Seller yang rugi?

and how can ts manage to use for 1 month and suddenly rosak?

Morning broo~~....wah so clever lah u...like detective...don't talk bout bullshit2 here...u like to eat bull's shit ah?

Here's my side of the story. Wakeup already have to write essay ah...haiz...

YES. I'm claiming Nikon trying to con me. WHY? because the lens was working fine until it came loose and break apart! U want me to upload photos taken by it before it came apart ah? aiya!




Yes, I know. And FYI clever sir, the mentioned lenses didn't break/shattered nor misaligned. Why? Because I know. Nikon only want to take golden opportunity in this case. Today I will call them again to ask them to show me the photos of the lens since they're claiming so much damage on that lens. I have my proof that it's in a good condition before packing and send out to them.


How these glasses lead to AF failure? U tell me how lah. That's why I think nikon service trying to take an opportunity on me. Because it's not logical. FYI also, the cable still intact the last time the lens was with me. U know WHY nikon didn't even quote u those damages before? Because your lens was not in 2 parts/broken when u sent it to them lahhh...aiyaaa...my case and your case different la broo...come here accuse me like that...cmon laa...


Oh really? U give me your lens and let us see if the back bayonet won't come apart when those screws were taken out. And also FYI, when the bayonet came apart, the back lens still RIGIDLY assembled to body.


Oh, u also know it's only a mounting unit. Bro....that's why I'm saying nikon service trying to take opportunity on me...u understand now bro?


Also remember bro~~.....did I said my element group died? it's from nikon service that said my lens was sooo sooo badly broken...impact damage lah...AF cannot use lah...so many claims...I can say B***shit to nikon...today I'm goin to clear this up with them...if not I will report to user tribunal...and YES I did used this lens 1 month before the focus gearing failed to focus because the bayonet came apart too much already at that time...U want me to post photos taken prior 1st of July as proof? U had sent to nikon lenses for warranty but it's very fortunate of u not having to be in my shoes...if not surely u will post a thread saying nikon service suxx...I'm not trying to fool anyone here. It's a real true story from me. What do I get when everyone's fooled? U think everyone here stupid ah? your claims and accusation of me are so heavy bro..I'm sorry if I sound harsh and sarcastic...peace~

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Added on July 19, 2012, 6:33 am[quote=0168257061,Jul 19 2012, 03:06 AM]
My friend also have the same repair content as yours.
Why? Because he dropped his lens. Was a 24-70mm.

and looking at ur quotation, there is also impact content
which result in need of changing lens elements.





Yes bro I am 110% sure I didn't drop the lens myself and come here to start accusing. For what bro? I'm here to tell a very unfortunate story of me buying an expensive lens, demo unit, missing 2 screws and being conned by nikon service. Well I can say nikon tried to...haha...dunno lah today have to call them again and clear things up...fasting month already...have to be patience...

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Added on July 19, 2012, 6:50 am

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

In my case, only the blue colored bayonet came apart...NOT THE LENS....when the bayonet came apart, the focusing gear can be pull just like that...that's why I'm saying nikon purposely quoted my RM1202 (impact damage summore etc.). All I want is just that they assemble back the bayonet and supply me those 2 missing screws...

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Jul 19 2012, 06:50 AM

Can i show me where is the missing screw location??

Im really noob with cameras

Hi bro

U can see there's 3 screws namely 1,2 & 3 there right? The phillips screw...mine was missing 2 of those...

I saw that.... But the screw is there what???
U dont have any pic of the lense that is without the screw?

No bro...that photo is not the 50mm 1.4D...that photo I think taken sumwhere from internet lor...not mine bro...photo without screws I already uploaded...

[quote=Izwan898,Jul 19 2012, 06:25 AM]



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So basically, what are you trying to imply here though? So is it Nikon's fault now or Silverfire? This is really confusing.

Well, basically if you realize that it's "demo unit", you should've actually check through everything though. Anything can happen between a month right?

This post has been edited by mccy118: Jul 19 2012, 10:38 AM

[quote=mccy118,Jul 19 2012, 10:37 AM]

I didn't say I won't argue with Ikea if the furniture had a scratch. I said, if the furniture had a scratch AFTER 2 month, I would not complain because it doesn't make sense (because they could argue that I caused the damage, duh?). I believe that T&C applies. And I can't accuse seller of lepas tangan can I?

And obviously I WOULD argue with Ikea if the furniture I ordered was delivered in bad condition. I will hold Ikea responsible because I have a proof that I haven't used it yet, and when it was delivered, it was already in bad state. Ikea can argue it was delivery etc, but I will of course argue my way out with Ikea because I have the right because I have done my responsibility in checking and making sure everything's all right.

And I wasn't implying or saying that your case is caused by courier services ok? I was stating the importance of checking first-hand and immediately when item arrived. I was giving an analogy. I wasn't saying that courier was at fault, please be clear.

And, no need to accuse me of accusing you as a cheapskate. None of my words nor sentences that I've written as comment here in any way has been implying that you are a cheapskate isn't it? So please, watch your words.

Below are just my 2cents.


After reading through the conversation and advices from others, Well, I wouldn't say that Silverfire is at fault anymore. A fact that you own the lens for a month only then you realize the missing screws is weird.

I mean, normally when we get something new, we will instantly play around with it right? So the moment you got the lens, you should have notice there is a problem with the lens already..not after 1 month..unless your answer is that you got your lens and you keep it for 1 month then you play with it then... no comment.

Bro...silverfire also have no proof that the screws was there before he sent it to me...how's that make him innocent? I know it's already months but I just realized it on the 1st of july...so that makes him 100% innocent? UNLESS he can prove it that he sent me the lens WITH the 2 screws were still there!!

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Added on July 19, 2012, 1:46 pmReputable members like this silverfire guy?

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Jul 19 2012, 01:46 PM

TL;DR

Nikon is trying to scam you. Okay. That's your point right? =) So what does it got to do with SilverFire?





Good condition you say?



So why is it still apart?

So... you are still saying Nikon is scamming you instead of Silverfire, if that's the case, thread can close liao. Post this in the photography subforum

This post has been edited by sakurakinomoto: Jul 19 2012, 02:32 PM

Have u read thru the thread? So ignorant. Tell him to post the proof that the screws were there before I had it.

I'm not sure if you can or cannot read, perhaps you simply chose to slide through what I said. Read thoroughly. I'm not going to repeat what I have already stated. Cheers mate.