Im currently using wave 125cc..im thinking of getting a superbike which is Naza Blade 650r efi. is that ok to jump to 650cc bike instead of getting a 250cc bike? getting a B full license probably no problem with me.

sometimes is not abt the power alone..but handling..wave is moped..while blade is full fairing..u need some times to get used with the handle and riding position.

it really depends on your confidence and how "RESPONSIBLE" you are when you ride a superbike.

as long as you know your limit, you gradually increase your confidence when taking corners or going at high speed, everything would be just fine.

to save cost, buy a 1 litre bike right away. and you know you'll probably.. mind you.. "PROBABLY" will not get another bike because you will not get bored of it and there tonnes of things to learn on a litre bike.

if cost is a constraint, settle down with smaller cc. but at least something that has a resale value.

reason to this? there's this disease called "itchiness" to get a more powerful, sexier, lighter (and all other excuses in the world) superbike when you are getting comfortable with the current bike. when that time comes, at least you can easily trade in the old one for the sassy young bike..

This post has been edited by portobello: Jul 14 2012, 10:41 AM

how about xtm200? i also thinking to have 650kawa....but then, still don't have enough money to grab it now still study about xtm200.

i'm looking for long distance bike, and everyday bike, top speed =not boring

actually im only into R version for now

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Added on July 14, 2012, 11:03 amherm..the reason why i choose Naza bike is because its cheap,
but Naza bike is lack in resale value.
and to get a litre bike it is so gonna cost me alot.
unless it is kawasaki bike which got high resale value.
but for ninja 250r price i can get a blade 650r.

This post has been edited by hdslr cinematography: Jul 14 2012, 11:03 AM

what do you know about blade 650r? maintenance,spare part, any problem?
i met few rider, they said if you wanted to buy 250cc is better wait for awhile then go for 600cc above, you still have to pay almost the same price for maintenance, insurance, tyre cost....

every bike got problem if we dont know how to take a good care of it.
i did some research on blade,
the maintenance n spare part will be no problem,
the engine they use suzuki engine

ok.. go ahead.

question, do you intend on upgrading for bigger bike in the future?

if you do, take the 250 instead. Its cheap as fuk and if you drop it, you wont cry.

the 250R is good bike for learner like you. I assume you are going to daily it? 250 fits the requirement.

Reason Im saying this, the 250R basically has the liter bike appearance for the quarter of the engine size thus it'll teach you how to ride the bike.

my pov, 650R wont last you long. You WILL want to go bigger. So, rather than spending money on the 650, why not just be cheap for a while and get 250 instead. From there, learn the 250 to its fullest. Its not about the size, its about the skill of the rider. A damn good 250 rider can gives the big bikers a good run for their money. On twisties that is.

when you are done with 250, then you can go straight to liter bikes. Wont be a problem.

ask kapalterbang_737, he owned 2 Blade 250R, one Ninja 250 and now he rides an 06 R1..


one thing is, our human brain is brilliant. If you jump to 650 from 125 and starts riding, your brain will kick in the 'dont drop the bike' mode. And its gonna take time to get use to the bike. Furthermore, its also related to money. If you drop it, you gonna spend more. Thus, dropping the bike really is not an option.

while the 250 on the other hand, your brain will be in the same mode but, its less stressing to you. The throttle is less responsive than the 650, the torque is also forgiving for newbie thus, you will tend to push the bike more. This will make you experience more and learn more of the bike behavior.


there, Ive shared my little tiny bit of knowledge. Its up to you to decide.





regards,
keyboard warrior.

Hi,
thanks for the great info.
you made me wanna get a blade 250r
is it ok if i get a secondhand bike?
since im still in learning how to ride a sportsbike + dont wanna drop it an expensive bike

i see what u did thar... u wanna get bigger bike soon aye?


yeah, a 2nd hand unit is favorable for blade 250r. As you also can see nowadays, these bikes are going really cheap. If you buy a new one, you might end up loosing more in case of depreciation and quality of the bike. The key point here is, to be cheap and save more for later purchase.

look for anything that is standard with no mods or little mods and do check on the milage too. For some certain kilometers (I am not sure on blade 250), the valves needs to be adjusted. There's a promo from Bard's workshop (in Sungai Buloh), I think MYR1.3 for engine oil+filter change, valve adjustment, bigger piston (increase to 300), and some other stuffs I cant remember. Do check on Bladers on FB.

If you happen to join the group and approved, please do a proper introduction and answers every question they ask. Apparently, they are pretty strict with new comers (to the page).





regards,
keyboard warrior.

haha! ya, im a person which tak tahan nak upgrade kind of person.

i will try to get a decent bike with low mileage with efi under rm10k if possible.

im not yet joining any bladers group, so far only lurking at forums and gather information from here and there.

I keep on hearing ppl mentioning about not dropping a big cc bike...what's the consequences of that??

if drop the big cc bike its gonna cost you big money to repair compared to the 250cc

thats not a superbike.

Accidents aside, just by merely dropping it on the road,say at the red lights , will also cost money?

if nothing happens to your bike then its not gonna cost you money

put pillow at both side of your bike,and act cool

Just go for 650 if ya want. U can learn it all u want when u have the bike with u. Blaze 650 have big horse power for u to handle, the thrill of riding is worth every penny u pay for that bike.
I ride a wave, 125z, Honda NSR, then now, CBR 600R. At first week, cocky and jerking on and off the front brakes. After three weeks on the bike, everything just feel natural.
Honestly, I never ride a 650 twin cylinder b4. But judging on the spec, it shud be fun.

ok, now im in dilemma
but i think its better for me to try blade 250r. once i feel like i wanna upgrade to bigger cc i know at that im ready to take on the superbike. probably go for 4 cylinder bike for 650cc

Easy bro, ask urself, Wat do u want the most. Nice bike within ur budget, killer Ducati looks, v-twin 4 stroke engine, upside down fork. This bike can go 200km/h easy, Wat ? I see a lot of Japanese bikes, but these Korean bike never ceased to amaze me.
Trust ur judgement.

This post has been edited by yhzell: Jul 16 2012, 07:57 PM

ur take is wif 650r?

ur cb6 is 100hp, this blade 650r just a 70hp.. blade 650 are comparable to kawa er6s, suzi sv650, and yama xj6.. <80hp range..

cb6, r6, fz6, zx6 <- supersport class already, more than 100hp.

for a 175cm height and weigh 85kgs , which model is preferred on the >litre bike ?

just asking for future reference ...

Suggest u try sit on them.... Different ppl different requirement and likes.....

Some prefer this and some prefer that....haha

very afraid feet cannot touch ground , i tried on a few bikes , but those are BMWs , geeeeee cannot reach ... damm tough hahaha

daily bike? dun get 4i ...masak la maen clutch kalau jam (i assume u work/live in kl).... settle with wat ur pocket size...if small get 250 if big get 650 maintenance wise almost the same. daichi,kawa...

more than a liter bike aye?

175 with 85 can sit any bike. Except, either you are going to tip-toeing or, flat footed on both feet or flat footed on either feet.

Dani Pedrosa is only 5ft 2" (wiki), and he races for Honda motogp team. At the start of a race, he stands on his left foot.

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Added on July 17, 2012, 12:54 pmencik ninja.. arrow bila mau bukak silencer?

This post has been edited by farique: Jul 17 2012, 12:54 PM

I'm afraid the one u tried is BMW's DP/tourer.... GS/F....haha

Try a sportbike.... They're ride height is relatively low....

I always wondering, can a 165~168 ride a 650 bike?

i prefer both feet to reach flat footed ... usage most likely for weekends or just for the lol go yumcha or what , whack corner all no interest at the moment,

yeah it's touring bike, with a boxer engine ... damm cool the sound ... one day must try a superbike.

thanks for the feedback

yes, can

650r all the way. Coz thats what he could afford atm. Just my 2 cents.

u means RT ??? 175 u can reach ground with confidence ....


my friend only 154 cm n 60kg he can ride goldwing, best part, he can even push up double stand ....


GS have no problem la .... if u're 165 cm, u can go for GS asian kit suspension

I know ur suggesting 675

All info for current 2012 superbike here

do following check:

1 - can afford monthly?
2 - can afford to maintain?
3 - plan to change in future? less than a year or 2?

then only thing which bike u like and what is ur purpose of buying it. for work only? for work + weekend ride? for work + weekend ride + to track? all this need to take into consideration unless $$ not an issue for u.

just 2 cent

im planning to get a secondhand 250r first, want to get the feeling of having a big bike. and secondhand mostly have to pay cash. Yes, planning to change probably less than 3 years max

U love it don't ya.... lol....

No la.... 675 is only for ppl who dare venture into Triumph.... Japs is the easier alternatives...haha

675 will always be in my heart...

ok. understand. think this way:

1. have cash? - yes.
2. can cash pay down payment?
3. can i afford to pay min 500 a month?

if yes then should go with 600cc?

there are so many option. It is all up to u. If i am on ur shoe, i will go for higher cc provided answer 1-3 is yes.

I start riding kapcai for 6 month (LC135) then upgrade to 1000cc - second hand bike before upgrade with new bike.

think properly..

would like to know your experience, what did you feel when it was your first time riding a superbike.

experience was good. U just need to try and get use to it. It how you control the throttle. Balancing its the same. before moving it is bit heavy but once it move it is the same like normal kapcai.

dont panic. dont be afraid with it. you control it not the bike controlling u. u set where it go and how fast it go. sure can la.. dont worry so much. buy the bike then we can go ride together.

I have the same dilemma as TS .. .. my case even worse, I wanted a big cc bike since years ago but till now, I yet to make a move .. ..

a lot of things cycling in my head ... one of them is safety .. my parents, my wife keep saying bike has no safety .. dangerous, etc ... those comments make me pending on my purchase for years .. ..

I am looking into 250cc with blade 250R and kawa 250 are in my top list ...

does it mean 250 not dangerous? is all about u la.. and how u control ur self.

I rather get R1 if i were u..

how long did you take to get used to it? any experience riding a superbike before?

no money for R1

why listen to the person who think big is good ???

no experience riding superbike prior buying it. the only experience i have is Kapcai.

I took about a month to get use to it with riding it every weekend. First 2 weeks i ride from house (BRP) to shah alam using guthrie highway. Since it is highway so i can try to speed and ride slowly to get use to it. 3rd and 4th week (confident a bit) i ride to KL. Face the jammed so i can learn how to "cilok" even though it hard and HOT!...hehe

It is all on ur hand. my experience might not be the same as u or other people. myb some people thing why need to rush and bla..bla..

all it is up to u. I have passion in big bike and am not sure about u.

Base on experience with friends, most of them who bought 250cc and 650cc regret buying it after 6 month. this experience might not applicable for u or others. this is my experience and my personal opinion only.

good luck hunting! make a wise decision.

update us with ur final decision. what ever bike u buy we still can go ride together:)

oh, yeah. you should consider maintenance.

maintain big cc bike is not cheap, especially inline4 engine bike (4 cylinders)

engine oil and spark plugs are least of your concerns when it comes to maintenance.
LOL, its the big fat rubber down there thats gonna cost you.

But fret not, you dont have to buy expensive tyres just to go out and about everyday.
Its when you want to head for track and race, is when you'll be spending a pair per session.

my plan is even no experience in bike b4 , buy alrdy , ride around the neighbourhood for 2 months everyday , just practice slowly until familliarise then venture further bit by bit

lolz

Lol... got asian kit.... I'm 184cm....

If i were to go for DP, definitely Triumph Tiger...haha

Tend to agree with the statement..my 650 only last for 5 mths b4 i move to 1ltr bike...

Triumph fanatic spotted. Enuf said..

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Added on July 18, 2012, 5:52 pmim thinking of over 200hp bike

This post has been edited by monaz: Jul 18 2012, 05:52 PM

Triples to be specific bro...haha

i see..thanks mang..

go for boss hoss ......

damn i love it too. but can afford to maintain it with my existing bike.argh... btw, i just try gt1400. awesome.

Sell ur bike....lol...

cbr 250 yo.. smooth ride...
ride one extremely nice xDD

haha...i love my current bike more but still wish to have another one..haha

make me more to go for 250. soon i will get it.

Haha... just kidding....

Want more poison ? haha

yes please

Lol... what bike ? Blade 250R ?

blade 250r efi to be exact

for that prices 17k< 250 lo .. . ..
save few k more go for 650 la (below 22k right) ....

i found the prices really attractive ...

yep, under 22k can get 650r efi on the road.
SOS

but some place can get rm15k for 250r efi

i think saw some one mention 13k ++ should be prices without insurance .....
good buy actually

13k+ i found from kapar motor website..but not so recommended coz heard got bad review about that shop

these are the prices from naza

Haha.... Ok, u made a wise choice...

But if u got budget, better go for the 650R efi.... it can outrun ER6, XJ6....

Plus u get more satisfaction in the long run...

If u plan to go for other bikes after this, 250R is a wiser learners bike...

do not, never ever go to Kapar motor and Berjaya somthing motor.. these two shops are not reliable at all. And both shop are in kapar.


u made a good choice to start on 250. Next upgrade, straight on to full liter bike. No regret.

yep, i think im going to get a 250r one. probably a secondhand so that i will not gonna worry if i drop the bike. so that later on i can straight upgrade to 1 litre bike without worrying so much about resale value.

is there anything we nit to worry particularly on 250r efi?

power
once u start to compare with other bike, u feel left out
hahhaaha

lol...
power wun differ much wif the new bike reite?

If they are 650, 750, 900 .... then u see huge different

tat is definitely
wat i m asking is wat to worry abt particularly in buying old 250r efi
means will there b ny prob?
any 250cc will lose if u compare to higher cc

i think is good u go with some experience rider, ask them try for you, but make sure ur friend reliable, not those everything also good type ....

if the owner is good in taking care of that bike, i think you made a good choice buying from him.
if not, sure got lots of problem

may i know why??
their price are good...
btw, can you intro bike shop that is reliable??
i am looking for blade 650r

u can buy bike from them, pay cash, take ur bike and never come back again.

if you want to service your bike, go to your preferable workshop, or u can go to the most favorable blade workshop, in subang bestari.. Majority the Bladers love to hang out at this shop. Very cheap, and expert too. (ex-Naza pomen)

not buying with cash man...
need to loan also..
but as ur advice.. i will not service with them la..
but it is ok to buy with them with loan ??

their loan interest is high...but if that its ok for you, then go ahead.

just make sure their pomen never touch your bike. They will bullshit you with lifetime warranty la, free labour la watsoever.
If one day ur bike broke down (touchwood), just sent it to Naza Centre.. somemore every Naza bike have official warranty from Naza itself, no matter which shop you bought it from.

ok

hw about welly sungai buloh or any welly shop?any idea on this?

So what is your decision sir? Take the 250R first or jump to 650R? I'm planning too and might get the bike on 2015 I'm from EX5, 135LC (racing)..might jump to 650r too..