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 first superbike, is it ok if i go for 650cc

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post Jul 14 2012, 10:26 AM, updated 14y ago

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Im currently using wave 125cc..im thinking of getting a superbike which is Naza Blade 650r efi. is that ok to jump to 650cc bike instead of getting a 250cc bike? getting a B full license probably no problem with me.
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post Jul 14 2012, 10:34 AM

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sometimes is not abt the power alone..but handling..wave is moped..while blade is full fairing..u need some times to get used with the handle and riding position. wink.gif
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post Jul 14 2012, 10:38 AM

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it really depends on your confidence and how "RESPONSIBLE" you are when you ride a superbike.

as long as you know your limit, you gradually increase your confidence when taking corners or going at high speed, everything would be just fine.

to save cost, buy a 1 litre bike right away. and you know you'll probably.. mind you.. "PROBABLY" will not get another bike because you will not get bored of it and there tonnes of things to learn on a litre bike.

if cost is a constraint, settle down with smaller cc. but at least something that has a resale value.

reason to this? there's this disease called "itchiness" to get a more powerful, sexier, lighter (and all other excuses in the world) superbike when you are getting comfortable with the current bike. when that time comes, at least you can easily trade in the old one for the sassy young bike..

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post Jul 14 2012, 10:39 AM

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how about xtm200? i also thinking to have 650kawa....but then, still don't have enough money to grab it tongue.gif now still study about xtm200.

i'm looking for long distance bike, and everyday bike, top speed =not boring smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2012, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(DAKBAIK_00 @ Jul 14 2012, 11:39 AM)
how about xtm200? i also thinking to have 650kawa....but then, still don't have enough money to grab it tongue.gif now still study about xtm200.

i'm looking for long distance bike, and everyday bike, top speed =not boring smile.gif
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actually im only into R version for now smile.gif


Added on July 14, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(portobello @ Jul 14 2012, 11:38 AM)
it really depends on your confidence and how "RESPONSIBLE" you are when you ride a superbike.

as long as you know your limit, you gradually increase your confidence when taking corners or going at high speed, everything would be just fine.

to save cost, buy a 1 litre bike right away. and you know you'll probably.. mind you.. "PROBABLY" will not get another bike because you will not get bored of it and there tonnes of things to learn on a litre bike.

if cost is a constraint, settle down with smaller cc. but at least something that has a resale value.

reason to this? there's this disease called "itchiness" to get a more powerful, sexier, lighter (and all other excuses in the world) superbike when you are getting comfortable with the current bike. when that time comes, at least you can easily trade in the old one for the sassy young bike..
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herm..the reason why i choose Naza bike is because its cheap,
but Naza bike is lack in resale value.
and to get a litre bike it is so gonna cost me alot.
unless it is kawasaki bike which got high resale value.
but for ninja 250r price i can get a blade 650r.

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post Jul 14 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(hdslr cinematography @ Jul 14 2012, 10:58 AM)
actually im only into R version for now smile.gif


Added on July 14, 2012, 11:03 am

herm..the reason why i choose Naza bike is because its cheap,
but Naza bike is lack in resale value.
and to get a litre bike it is so gonna cost me alot.
unless it is kawasaki bike which got high resale value.
but for ninja 250r price i can get a blade 650r.
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what do you know about blade 650r? maintenance,spare part, any problem?
i met few rider, they said if you wanted to buy 250cc is better wait for awhile then go for 600cc above, you still have to pay almost the same price for maintenance, insurance, tyre cost....


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post Jul 14 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(DAKBAIK_00 @ Jul 14 2012, 12:13 PM)
what do you know about blade 650r? maintenance,spare part, any problem?
i met few rider, they said if you wanted to buy 250cc is better wait for awhile then go for 600cc above, you still have to pay almost the same price for maintenance, insurance, tyre cost....
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every bike got problem if we dont know how to take a good care of it.
i did some research on blade,
the maintenance n spare part will be no problem,
the engine they use suzuki engine
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post Jul 14 2012, 12:11 PM

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ok.. go ahead.
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post Jul 14 2012, 01:19 PM

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question, do you intend on upgrading for bigger bike in the future?

if you do, take the 250 instead. Its cheap as fuk and if you drop it, you wont cry.

the 250R is good bike for learner like you. I assume you are going to daily it? 250 fits the requirement.

Reason Im saying this, the 250R basically has the liter bike appearance for the quarter of the engine size thus it'll teach you how to ride the bike.

my pov, 650R wont last you long. You WILL want to go bigger. So, rather than spending money on the 650, why not just be cheap for a while and get 250 instead. From there, learn the 250 to its fullest. Its not about the size, its about the skill of the rider. A damn good 250 rider can gives the big bikers a good run for their money. On twisties that is.

when you are done with 250, then you can go straight to liter bikes. Wont be a problem.

ask kapalterbang_737, he owned 2 Blade 250R, one Ninja 250 and now he rides an 06 R1..


one thing is, our human brain is brilliant. If you jump to 650 from 125 and starts riding, your brain will kick in the 'dont drop the bike' mode. And its gonna take time to get use to the bike. Furthermore, its also related to money. If you drop it, you gonna spend more. Thus, dropping the bike really is not an option.

while the 250 on the other hand, your brain will be in the same mode but, its less stressing to you. The throttle is less responsive than the 650, the torque is also forgiving for newbie thus, you will tend to push the bike more. This will make you experience more and learn more of the bike behavior.


there, Ive shared my little tiny bit of knowledge. Its up to you to decide. smile.gif





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post Jul 14 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(farique @ Jul 14 2012, 02:19 PM)
question, do you intend on upgrading for bigger bike in the future?

if you do, take the 250 instead. Its cheap as fuk and if you drop it, you wont cry.

the 250R is good bike for learner like you. I assume you are going to daily it? 250 fits the requirement.

Reason Im saying this, the 250R basically has the liter bike appearance for the quarter of the engine size thus it'll teach you how to ride the bike.

my pov, 650R wont last you long. You WILL want to go bigger. So, rather than spending money on the 650, why not just be cheap for a while and get 250 instead. From there, learn the 250 to its fullest. Its not about the size, its about the skill of the rider. A damn good 250 rider can gives the big bikers a good run for their money. On twisties that is.

when you are done with 250, then you can go straight to liter bikes. Wont be a problem.

ask kapalterbang_737, he owned 2 Blade 250R, one Ninja 250 and now he rides an 06 R1..
one thing is, our human brain is brilliant. If you jump to 650 from 125 and starts riding, your brain will kick in the 'dont drop the bike' mode. And its gonna take time to get use to the bike. Furthermore, its also related to money. If you drop it, you gonna spend more. Thus, dropping the bike really is not an option.

while the 250 on the other hand, your brain will be in the same mode but, its less stressing to you. The throttle is less responsive than the 650, the torque is also forgiving for newbie thus, you will tend to push the bike more. This will make you experience more and learn more of the bike behavior.
there, Ive shared my little tiny bit of knowledge. Its up to you to decide. smile.gif
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Hi,
thanks for the great info.
you made me wanna get a blade 250r
is it ok if i get a secondhand bike?
since im still in learning how to ride a sportsbike + dont wanna drop it an expensive bike
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post Jul 14 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(hdslr cinematography @ Jul 14 2012, 01:43 PM)
Hi,
thanks for the great info.
you made me wanna get a blade 250r
is it ok if i get a secondhand bike?
since im still in learning how to ride a sportsbike + dont wanna drop it an expensive bike
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i see what u did thar... u wanna get bigger bike soon aye? brows.gif


yeah, a 2nd hand unit is favorable for blade 250r. As you also can see nowadays, these bikes are going really cheap. If you buy a new one, you might end up loosing more in case of depreciation and quality of the bike. The key point here is, to be cheap and save more for later purchase.

look for anything that is standard with no mods or little mods and do check on the milage too. For some certain kilometers (I am not sure on blade 250), the valves needs to be adjusted. There's a promo from Bard's workshop (in Sungai Buloh), I think MYR1.3 for engine oil+filter change, valve adjustment, bigger piston (increase to 300), and some other stuffs I cant remember. Do check on Bladers on FB.

If you happen to join the group and approved, please do a proper introduction and answers every question they ask. Apparently, they are pretty strict with new comers (to the page).





regards,
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post Jul 14 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(farique @ Jul 14 2012, 06:46 PM)
i see what u did thar... u wanna get bigger bike soon aye? brows.gif
yeah, a 2nd hand unit is favorable for blade 250r. As you also can see nowadays, these bikes are going really cheap. If you buy a new one, you might end up loosing more in case of depreciation and quality of the bike. The key point here is, to be cheap and save more for later purchase.

look for anything that is standard with no mods or little mods and do check on the milage too. For some certain kilometers (I am not sure on blade 250), the valves needs to be adjusted. There's a promo from Bard's workshop (in Sungai Buloh), I think MYR1.3 for engine oil+filter change, valve adjustment, bigger piston (increase to 300), and some other stuffs I cant remember. Do check on Bladers on FB.

If you happen to join the group and approved, please do a proper introduction and answers every question they ask. Apparently, they are pretty strict with new comers (to the page).
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haha! ya, im a person which tak tahan nak upgrade kind of person.

i will try to get a decent bike with low mileage with efi under rm10k if possible.

im not yet joining any bladers group, so far only lurking at forums and gather information from here and there.
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post Jul 15 2012, 06:43 PM

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I keep on hearing ppl mentioning about not dropping a big cc bike...what's the consequences of that??
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post Jul 15 2012, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(altism @ Jul 15 2012, 07:43 PM)
I keep on hearing ppl mentioning about not dropping a big cc bike...what's the consequences of that??
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if drop the big cc bike its gonna cost you big money to repair compared to the 250cc
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post Jul 15 2012, 11:08 PM

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thats not a superbike.
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(hdslr cinematography @ Jul 15 2012, 08:01 PM)
if drop the big cc bike its gonna cost you big money to repair compared to the 250cc
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Accidents aside, just by merely dropping it on the road,say at the red lights , will also cost money?
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(altism @ Jul 16 2012, 04:39 PM)
Accidents aside, just by merely dropping it on the road,say at the red lights , will also cost money?
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if nothing happens to your bike then its not gonna cost you money
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:44 PM

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put pillow at both side of your bike,and act cool
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post Jul 16 2012, 04:27 PM

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Just go for 650 if ya want. U can learn it all u want when u have the bike with u. Blaze 650 have big horse power for u to handle, the thrill of riding is worth every penny u pay for that bike.
I ride a wave, 125z, Honda NSR, then now, CBR 600R. At first week, cocky and jerking on and off the front brakes. After three weeks on the bike, everything just feel natural.
Honestly, I never ride a 650 twin cylinder b4. But judging on the spec, it shud be fun.
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(yhzell @ Jul 16 2012, 05:27 PM)
Just go for 650 if ya want. U can learn it all u want when u have the bike with u. Blaze 650 have big horse power for u to handle, the thrill of riding is worth every penny u pay for that bike.
I ride a wave, 125z, Honda NSR, then now, CBR 600R. At first week, cocky and jerking on and off the front brakes. After three weeks on the bike, everything just feel natural.
Honestly, I never ride a 650 twin cylinder b4. But judging on the spec, it shud be fun.
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ok, now im in dilemma smile.gif
but i think its better for me to try blade 250r. once i feel like i wanna upgrade to bigger cc i know at that im ready to take on the superbike. probably go for 4 cylinder bike for 650cc smile.gif

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