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TSQuazacolt
post Jul 12 2012, 09:48 PM, updated 14y ago

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As per title, starting this off for my fellow Monk(ies)!

Please share any resource related to Monk here.

Official resources/guides from battle.net:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/monk/

Monk skill calculator:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk

additional Calculators/resources compiled by forumer polarzbearz over this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2413898

Damage calculator:
http://www.diablodamagecalculator.com/
http://www.bios-gaming.de/d3dps/
Effective HP calculator (for tanks):
http://rubensayshi.github.com/d3-ehp-calculator/


"How to kill inferno Ghom" videos:

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http://livestre.am/40JFh

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dont think we need a list of 60's/inferno monks right? maybe we can have a list of tank builds/dps? though atm it seems like flix will just dominate both charts tongue.gif

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post Jul 12 2012, 09:50 PM

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Additional useful resource/info:

LemoNT hardware lag fix
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2401493

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post Jul 12 2012, 09:51 PM

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Life On Hit (LoH) VS Lifestealing (LS)

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 7 2012, 12:24 PM)
lets assume you get average 75k damage, 3% LS will give you 2.25k * 20% = 450 life. that is less than what you will get from 300 LoH on multiple mobs if you use FoT. but if you have plan to push for higher DPS, LS is probably better in long run. at least you will get LS from both hit and Sweeping wind.

however, that is just in theory.  blush.gif may be people that have tested it before can share their experience.
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IINM LS has no multiple mob co-efficient scaling, which means that if you're hitting multiple mobs, your life stealing value goes up exponentially while LoH has that issue as you mentioned

assuming what i said is correct:
- with 3% LS
if you deal 100k dmg. and you hit 5 mobs, that's 500k dmg = 15k *20% = 3000 life per hit on 100k x5 mobs)

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oh ya, not to mention skills also having a modifier:


reviewing this video just to refresh some of the facts in my head lol

krip even did a math summary:
to equate 3% ls against 847 LoH, you need to do 113k dmg (per hit obviously)

then again, i am doing 100-200k dmg crits, and my 7ss does like 400-500k crits rofl. (if all 7 strikes crit, at max dmg, thats 3.5mil dmg mind you, can pretty much halfen cydea's hp pretty damn easily)

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from here:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5978370136?page=2#24

the co-efficient is already calculated on per spell basis (huge aoe spells get less for example)
while LS does not have such co-efficient. so if you're doing really f***ing crazy dmg, LS is the way to go smile.gif

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:05 PM

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Ok, I'm a level 60 Monk just finished Act II Inferno, here is my build so far http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZUX!acbcYc
My resist are 844 unbuffed, with 12xx buffed, dmg is 10-12k, armor is 7.8k; Crit hit chance 26%, Crit hit dmg 50%, dodge chance 33.8%, block chance 20%, health around 33k, MF 75%.
I'm currently equipping a 650+dps with 2xx LoH fist weapon and a 1.2k armor shield, pumping poison resistance.
What else can I do? I can't tank the Inferno Act III rare/elite packs if I play alone. Haven't test it out on multiplayer. Please advise me on this~

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingR @ Jul 12 2012, 10:05 PM)
Ok, I'm a level 60 Monk just finished Act II Inferno, here is my build so far http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZUX!acbcYc
My resist are 844 unbuffed, with 12xx buffed, dmg is 10-12k, armor is 7.8k; Crit hit chance 26%, Crit hit dmg 50%, dodge chance 33.8%, block chance 20%, health around 33k, MF 75%.
I'm currently equipping a 650+dps with 2xx LoH fist weapon and a 1.2k armor shield, pumping poison resistance.
What else can I do? I can't tank the Inferno Act III rare/elite packs if I play alone. Haven't test it out on multiplayer. Please advise me on this~
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is MF default 0? 75% seems like just with 5NV

also with such high crit %, you might wanna consider getting crit dmg % bonuses to compliment it smile.gif

may also want to get more dex for armor to compliment your resists, and add towards your base dmg
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 12 2012, 10:16 PM)
is MF default 0? 75% seems like just with 5NV

also with such high crit %, you might wanna consider getting crit dmg % bonuses to compliment it smile.gif

may also want to get more dex for armor to compliment your resists, and add towards your base dmg
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Ops, the MF% is from my gears. I'm really low on dex, only around 1.3k. Thanks for the feedback, will update when I can proceed.
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post Jul 12 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingR @ Jul 12 2012, 10:22 PM)
Ops, the MF% is from my gears. I'm really low on dex, only around 1.3k. Thanks for the feedback, will update when I can proceed.
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consider ditching the MF if you're progressing and not farming smile.gif
its stats wasted if you ask me and would dampen your performance when you're already "not performing"

dex around 1.4-1.7k should be enough to finish inferno btw.
anything more would be up to preference (ive gone up to 2k before, other forumers here has gone up higher than that for the sake of dodge + MoE laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(FlamingR @ Jul 12 2012, 10:05 PM)
Ok, I'm a level 60 Monk just finished Act II Inferno, here is my build so far http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZUX!acbcYc
My resist are 844 unbuffed, with 12xx buffed, dmg is 10-12k, armor is 7.8k; Crit hit chance 26%, Crit hit dmg 50%, dodge chance 33.8%, block chance 20%, health around 33k, MF 75%.
I'm currently equipping a 650+dps with 2xx LoH fist weapon and a 1.2k armor shield, pumping poison resistance.
What else can I do? I can't tank the Inferno Act III rare/elite packs if I play alone. Haven't test it out on multiplayer. Please advise me on this~
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looks like u need more armor.
did u try keen eye with deadly reach?
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jul 12 2012, 10:50 PM)
looks like u need more armor.
did u try keen eye with deadly reach?
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Yes I have tried it(Keen Eye) but just doesn't keep my hp up enough to survive; If you look at my skill set I'm building towards aspd with high crit to proc my sweeping wind w/ lightning tornado, and survive on the LoH.
Right now, I'm thinking of
- replacing MF gears and replace it with higher dex and life total%,
- change to a better weapon with higher LoH(8xx) and dps,
- increase my chance to crit to 30%, crit damage 70%,


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the first D3 char who got version 2.congr8!!!!!!!!!
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:36 PM

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Woot first page!! FlaminR.. I think ur dps is too low hmm.gif


Added on July 12, 2012, 11:37 pmBtw.. Ur hp berapa?

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post Jul 13 2012, 12:09 AM

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Summerfist reporting... maintenance haiz. bought a 7xx dps dagger, now I manage to kill faster & die less often while wearing my farming gear.


Added on July 13, 2012, 12:11 amDay before yesterday (after 12am duh!) I tried fit my all LoH kit and manage to churn out a whooping 2.2k LoH tongue.gif

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maintenance again!!! until 4am... gg tonight
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nice page, after update yesterday i feel elite/boss really hard to kill..
any1 feel the same?
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 12:56 AM)
nice page, after update yesterday i feel elite/boss really hard to kill..
any1 feel the same?
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Not only hard to kill, but arcane, molten n plague seems to be very much higher in terms of damage even though my resist is at 1K.
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Didn't notice any difference... been killing elites with 5 stack NV in Act 2... took out a few jailer+arcane whatnot... before the damn maintenance...

ps: been standing on plague like usual too... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 13 2012, 02:00 AM)
Not only hard to kill, but arcane, molten n plague seems to be very much higher in terms of damage even though my resist is at 1K.
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my res 850 only cry.gif -edit-

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 02:07 AM)
Didn't notice any difference... been killing elites with 5 stack NV in Act 2... took out a few jailer+arcane whatnot... before the damn maintenance...

ps: been standing on plague like usual too...  laugh.gif
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ur gear good that y bo rasa.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 01:14 AM)
my res 850k only cry.gif
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what gear you using bro? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 13 2012, 02:18 AM)
what gear you using bro? laugh.gif
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shoulder, bracer, chest armor, pants, boot - got 50+ AR, 50+ cold res, dex 400+ (most cheapest item worth 5k each in AH)

left n right ring got ias 6% & 7% + mf 10% & 12% + 25% chd

amulet 200+ dex and 53% chd

glove 200+ & chc 8.5%

helm 123 dex, ias 5%, 25% mf (star topaz)

fist 611DPS, 195vit, 500 LOH, 70% chd (left hand)

axe 800DPS, 227dex, 200int (right hand)

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 01:27 AM)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 13 2012, 02:29 AM)
can get 850000 all resists a?
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ops 850 only.. no 'K' doh.gif
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 01:33 AM)
ops 850 only.. no 'K'  doh.gif

that's like a 99.96% DR yo! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 01:27 AM)
shoulder, bracer, chest armor, pants, boot - got 50+ AR, 50+ cold res, dex 400+ (most cheapest item worth 5k each in AH)

left n right ring got ias 6% & 7% + mf 10% & 12% + 25% chd

amulet 200+ dex and 53% chd

glove 200+ & chc 8.5%

helm 123 dex, ias 5%, 25% mf (star topaz)

fist 611DPS, 195vit, 500 LOH, 70% chd (left hand)

axe 800DPS, 227dex, 200int (right hand)
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my resist just 880, armor 6.6k unbuffed. but i have not LoH and crit... sweat.gif ... i didnt notice any changes MAY BE because i dont stay in molten or lava for long...

hey! good news! some really good spec daibo (2-hand) is ridicules-cheap in AH!
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daibos too slow to go well with LoH unfortunately... but seeing as LoH might get a nerf might be a good idea to look into getting a high dmg high crit with socket one.
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 13 2012, 02:27 AM)
shoulder, bracer, chest armor, pants, boot - got 50+ AR, 50+ cold res, dex 400+ (most cheapest item worth 5k each in AH)

left n right ring got ias 6% & 7% + mf 10% & 12% + 25% chd

amulet 200+ dex and 53% chd

glove 200+ & chc 8.5%

helm 123 dex, ias 5%, 25% mf (star topaz)

fist 611DPS, 195vit, 500 LOH, 70% chd (left hand)

axe 800DPS, 227dex, 200int (right hand)
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850 res is enough la.

what about your armor and dps?
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lowerdown my LOH from 1k to 800 ... increase some dps and CD ... no CD tho.. sad.gif sad.gif

manage to pump up dps from 23k to 25k.. ... hmm.gif
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Ever since beating Inferno Diablo suddenly no motivation to play at all. This morning started a farming run, haven't even got 5 stack NV already sien and logout hmmm hmm.gif
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Jul 13 2012, 10:19 AM)
daibos too slow to go well with LoH unfortunately... but seeing as LoH might get a nerf might be a good idea to look into getting a high dmg high crit with socket one.
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i didn't read anything about LoH will be nerf. In fact, Wyatt said he is happy with LoH:

"I'm happy with where Life on Hit is and keeping an eye on Life Steal."
source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317360#lifesteal

Agree that Daibo is slow, need to pair with Amulet, ring for IAS. But the price / DPS is damn good; 1.2k DPS can get less than 1mil. biggrin.gif So, for budget progression, think can consider?


Added on July 13, 2012, 11:31 am
QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 13 2012, 10:24 AM)
lowerdown my LOH from 1k to 800 ... increase some dps and CD ... no CD tho.. sad.gif sad.gif

manage to pump up dps from 23k to 25k.. ... hmm.gif
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My DPS is around that too. Since I am pretty confident in Act2 now, I change most skill to offensive, my farming DPS is mostly around 43k with skill. Not including the Overawe-some with 48% more damage...

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 11:29 AM)
My DPS is around that too. Since I am pretty confident in Act2 now, I change most skill to offensive, my farming DPS is mostly around 43k with skill. Not including the Overawe-some with 48% more damage...

With the amount of money you've invested in your gear (46 dex gems, wow) you should be pretty confident in acts 3 & 4, not just Act 2.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 11:29 AM)
i didn't read anything about LoH will be nerf. In fact, Wyatt said he is happy with LoH:

"I'm happy with where Life on Hit is and keeping an eye on Life Steal."
source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317360#lifesteal

Agree that Daibo is slow, need to pair with Amulet, ring for IAS. But the price / DPS is damn good; 1.2k DPS can get less than 1mil. biggrin.gif So, for budget progression, think can consider?


Added on July 13, 2012, 11:31 am

My DPS is around that too. Since I am pretty confident in Act2 now, I change most skill to offensive, my farming DPS is mostly around 43k with skill. Not including the Overawe-some with 48% more damage...
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this is not human... shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
With the amount of money you've invested in your gear (46 dex gems, wow) you should be pretty confident in acts 3 & 4, not just Act 2.
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Ya, spent 2 millions just to craft 6 star gems.

Progression in Act3 is do-able.. but my monk is not awesome.. still die a lot (guess i m too aggresive???).

i m now farming in Act2, quite fast. found Flawless star gem plan yesterday, but it's for Topaz. spend 1 mil+ to make 1 flawless star topaz. can sell at 2mil biggrin.gif

hope to find the Emerald plan laugh.gif

my max DPS 60k just for show... not using for farming coz Overawe-some is just awesome although u cannot see in DPS.

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 11:29 AM)
i didn't read anything about LoH will be nerf. In fact, Wyatt said he is happy with LoH:

"I'm happy with where Life on Hit is and keeping an eye on Life Steal."
source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6317360#lifesteal

Agree that Daibo is slow, need to pair with Amulet, ring for IAS. But the price / DPS is damn good; 1.2k DPS can get less than 1mil. biggrin.gif So, for budget progression, think can consider?


Added on July 13, 2012, 11:31 am

My DPS is around that too. Since I am pretty confident in Act2 now, I change most skill to offensive, my farming DPS is mostly around 43k with skill. Not including the Overawe-some with 48% more damage...
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so many vit gem... your HP very low ker???

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 09:33 AM)
hey! good news! some really good spec daibo (2-hand) is ridicules-cheap in AH!
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word.

the over 1k ones are still in the millions though, however no where as retardedly expensive as 1 handed/fist weapons biggrin.gif


Added on July 13, 2012, 12:19 pm
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 13 2012, 11:19 AM)
Ever since beating Inferno Diablo suddenly no motivation to play at all. This morning started a farming run, haven't even got 5 stack NV already sien and logout hmmm hmm.gif
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lol i havent log in to play ever since i killed diablo. only auctions je XD

friends all also stopped playing 1 by 1 T^T

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:17 PM)
so many vit gem... your HP very low ker???
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ya, even with Gem, my HP is just around 28k... most Vit item is expensive in AH...
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 13 2012, 12:18 PM)

lol i havent log in to play ever since i killed diablo. only auctions je XD

friends all also stopped playing 1 by 1 T^T
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I still plying tho killed diablo... trying to farm in inferno pony..
damn hard... die like nobody business... doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 12:27 PM)
ya, even with Gem, my HP is just around 28k... most Vit item is expensive in AH...
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ou.. now only notice your 2nd post with 28k hp..
damn my dps got no where near yors !! T_T

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my dps is slightly higher than cow, bout 27k unbuffed, 50k buffed with self skills.
but.... yeah, only for farming. with only 400-500+ all resist, that shit gets me killed in act 3-4.

i use my tank/mix match on act 3/4 including diablo inferno kill
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Hi all monk sifu, wanna check how much this weapon can sell.
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
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Wow, 900dps, LoH 800 and -15lvl requirement shocking.gif can run naked at hell while wearing this.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 13 2012, 05:18 PM)
Wow, 900dps, LoH 800 and -15lvl requirement shocking.gif can run naked at hell while wearing this.
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i seldom use monk, now play wizz and bard. was thinking to sell it and buy weapon that i can use. 50m can sell? Dex or Vit more important for monk?

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 13 2012, 05:19 PM)
i seldom use monk, now play wizz and bard. was thinking to sell it and buy weapon that i can use. 50m can sell? Dex or Vit more important for monk?
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I wish I had 50m, can buyout from you unsure.gif
Monk need more dex than vit. Golden rule is every 2 dex pump in a Vit. So basically 1500dex coupled with 750vit is sweet

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it's a hot item. i recommend you try sell it in RMAH. weapon with lower level requirements sell pretty well in RMAH.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 05:26 PM)
it's a hot item. i recommend you try sell it in RMAH. weapon with lower level requirements sell pretty well in RMAH.
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how much should i put?
never try rmah before..
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how much should i put?
never try rmah before..
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how much should i put?
never try rmah before..
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the last (few weeks ago) i check 900++ DPS with high Dex and high LoH, can sell up to usd150... but i have not check for long time. you should do a simply query for this spec.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 05:31 PM)
the last (few weeks ago) i check 900++ DPS with high Dex and high LoH, can sell up to usd150... but i have not check for long time. you should do a simply query for this spec.
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 13 2012, 05:19 PM)
i seldom use monk, now play wizz and bard. was thinking to sell it and buy weapon that i can use. 50m can sell? Dex or Vit more important for monk?
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bid a cheapo 763 or so dps item 14k laugh.gif, after buff has 13k-16k dps , 6.2k armor and 900+ resist..

but still cant fight those elite with descreato/Arcane/illusionist/poison combo doh.gif
frustated man...can killed those easier elites but still can get sucky level 52 rare items.. !@#!@#!

doing zoltan kulle quest now btw..

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repost from that stupid top 10 thread lol:

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please put me in for tank, and please keep it TOP 10 (thread put top 3 somemore pft!)

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further info:
stats with MoH/time of need rune + deadly reach/keen eye + one with everything passive + seize the initiative passive
resolve passive further -25% on anything i touch.
earth ally for 10% hp bonus

then add in barbarian warcry + impunity
yes, i realize my resist/armor are waaaay off the balance, however i can go up to ~13k armor with MoE + hard target and a few gear swaps, that puts my resist to between 1.2-1.4k IINM (cant remember when's the last time i MoE'd so yeah)

also with protection shrine with added bluff.

no more additional bluffs smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 14 2012, 04:53 AM)
repost from that stupid top 10 thread lol:

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please put me in for tank, and please keep it TOP 10 (thread put top 3 somemore pft!)

=edit=
further info:
stats with MoH/time of need rune + deadly reach/keen eye + one with everything passive + seize the initiative passive
resolve passive further -25% on anything i touch.
earth ally for 10% hp bonus

then add in barbarian warcry + impunity
yes, i realize my resist/armor are waaaay off the balance, however i can go up to ~13k armor with MoE + hard target and a few gear swaps, that puts my resist to between 1.2-1.4k IINM (cant remember when's the last time i MoE'd so yeah)

also with protection shrine with added bluff.

no more additional bluffs smile.gif
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10k life regen per sec, 30k max life?! blink.gif shocking.gif blink.gif shocking.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Lonesync @ Jul 14 2012, 08:37 AM)
10k life regen per sec, 30k max life?!  blink.gif  shocking.gif  blink.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif
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i think cuz of health globes lol
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 13 2012, 10:33 AM)
my resist just 880, armor 6.6k unbuffed. but i have not LoH and crit...  sweat.gif ... i didnt notice any changes MAY BE because i dont stay in molten or lava for long...

hey! good news! some really good spec daibo (2-hand) is ridicules-cheap in AH!
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ya 2 hand very cheap, even i got this Attached Image also no ppl buy cry.gif

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850 res is enough la.

what about your armor and dps?
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 14 2012, 09:49 AM)
ya 2 hand very cheap, even i got this Attached Image also no ppl buy  cry.gif
armor bout 5k and dps 22k for now..

can beat diablo liao. some elites in act3/4 will give you headache but i suppose that's true for even the best geared monks.
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Feel like to get a legendary for my summerfist.
Which one to recommend me?
Stormshield? Ivory Tower? I already got a 4.7k block 1.4k armor shield wo unsure.gif

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Feel like to get a legendary for my summerfist.
Which one to recommend me?
Stormshield? Ivory Tower? I already got a 4.7k block 1.4k armor shield wo unsure.gif
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Sigh..... Shit la.. Bid a amor.. Start bid 400k end bid 15mil. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sigh..... Shit la.. Bid a amor.. Start bid 400k end bid 15mil. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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wow 15M, what stat?
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Just killed Ghom on my first try against him (cyclone makes it easy against him). However the journey from beginning of Act 3 till Ghom wasn't so easy. 95% of the time elites I meet have Arcane and I'll always die like nobody's business (Arcane + Molten + Plagued + Frozen I die faster than a glass cannon DH).

Feeling a bit sien to continue, do you guys think I should continue progressing Act 3 or keep farming Act 1 till I can die less (probably need atleast another 2 weeks of farming =/ and I don't play all the time)

My stats with enchantress (she has 4k dps) - 24k dps unbuffed, 1.82/2.02 aspd, 900 loh, 27k hp, 6k armor, 800 resist

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QUOTE(illusi0nat0r @ Jul 14 2012, 07:17 PM)
Just killed Ghom on my first try against him (cyclone makes it easy against him). However the journey from beginning of Act 3 till Ghom wasn't so easy. 95% of the time elites I meet have Arcane and I'll always die like nobody's business (Arcane + Molten + Plagued + Frozen I die faster than a glass cannon DH).

Feeling a bit sien to continue, do you guys think I should continue progressing Act 3 or keep farming Act 1 till I can die less (probably need atleast another 2 weeks of farming =/ and I don't play all the time)

My stats with enchantress (she has 4k dps) - 24k dps unbuffed, 1.82/2.02 aspd, 900 loh, 27k hp, 6k armor, 800 resist
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if you killed ghom, you can kill inferno diablo smile.gif
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Yea, frustrating to go through the elites. Any with shielding + floor skills, or arcane (5+ arcanes up at any time)
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Jul 14 2012, 09:27 PM)
Is not the bosses that are hard, the Elites/champion are the true hard enemies~~~~~horror~~
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wow 15M, what stat?
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Decent stats ..
Dex, vit and int over 80 less den 100
Fire n all resist .. Forgot berapa d
3 soket

btw .. Slowly movin to cd n cc build
Any one can suggest wats the ideal cc n cd?
Currently @ 22.9% cc n 120%cd

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 15 2012, 08:45 AM)
Decent stats ..
Dex, vit and int over 80 less den 100
Fire n all resist .. Forgot berapa d
3 soket

btw .. Slowly movin to cd n cc build
Any one can suggest wats the ideal cc n cd?
Currently @ 22.9% cc n 120%cd
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I read somewhere its 1:10 ratio. Ideally 40% CC and 400% CD. Maybe you want to up another 80% CD first? Personally I feel 20-30% CC is enough to spawn cyclone to make everything melt (with >1.7aspd)
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Hm need help guys, currently on hell act 1, keep on dying/having difficulty killing those elites, any suggestion on my stats?

Right now i am using dual weapon, whenever i see elites then change to shield, but sometimes with shield also 2 or 3 strike die...


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bro.. i thnk something is really wrong with ur dps...

buff ur armor too.

Resist in hell still bearable
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Jul 15 2012, 06:27 PM)
bro.. i thnk something is really wrong with ur dps...

buff ur armor too.

Resist in hell still bearable
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lvl 52, hell act 1. cant recall exactly, but dont think dps will be high at that point anyway
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Drop one of the skills and get Serenity. You'll never die again =D Mobs will die when serenity dies, most likely
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Feel sad to drop my LOH for CC and CD >.<
Sked kenot tahan >.<
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Jul 15 2012, 06:44 PM)
lvl 52, hell act 1. cant recall exactly, but dont think dps will be high at that point anyway
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Lvl 52 with 1k dps, that is damm low la Wei. Let me search my trash see got anything fits or not. I dual wield until inferno only sees the needs to change to palamonk ler
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 15 2012, 08:22 PM)
Feel sad to drop my LOH for CC and CD >.<
Sked kenot tahan >.<
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for me LOH +500 very2 minimum to deal with 3-6 mobs/elite with ias 1.70 above..
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QUOTE(Coconut @ Jul 15 2012, 05:40 PM)
Hm need help guys, currently on hell act 1, keep on dying/having difficulty killing those elites, any suggestion on my stats?

Right now i am using dual weapon, whenever i see elites then change to shield, but sometimes with shield also 2 or 3 strike die...
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Try use enchantress, she can buff your armor and can stand far shooting, ideal partner for melee like us.
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 15 2012, 08:07 PM)
for me LOH +500 very2 minimum to deal with 3-6 mobs/elite with ias 1.70 above..
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stats without enchantress and mantara buff...
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any suggestion... hmm.gif thats what i can do for my Monk with my current gold .. lulz..

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 15 2012, 09:40 PM)
stats without enchantress and mantara buff...
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any suggestion... hmm.gif thats what i can do for my Monk with my current gold .. lulz..
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i think ur current item is good enough compare to me sad.gif

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Hm i try use serenity, after 3 sec, one or two hit, hp left half, use breath of heaven, tahan few more sec...then die

I try search AH for weapons, at my level dps around 2xx, cost 50k and above....100k to be save, which is about 1/4 of my gold, still trying to bid see can get any cheap weapon

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QUOTE(Coconut @ Jul 15 2012, 10:31 PM)
Hm i try use serenity, after 3 sec, one or two hit, hp left half, use breath of heaven, tahan few more sec...then die

I try search AH for weapons, at my level dps around 2xx, cost 50k and above....100k to be save, which is about 1/4 of my gold, still trying to bid see can get any cheap weapon
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try search weapon "reduced requirement level" by 8, need some LOH +200 with socket..
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 15 2012, 09:39 PM)
try search weapon "reduced requirement level" by 8, need some LOH +200 with socket..
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also put a ridiculously high number on the max buyout search criteria like 99999999999. that way, your search result will not have the N/A buyout items and you can sort buyout price ascending order to find the cheapest. this way no need to look through the many pages of items with no buyout specified when you sort buyout ascending order


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 15 2012, 08:06 PM)
Lvl 52 with 1k dps, that is damm low la Wei. Let me search my trash see got anything fits or not. I dual wield until inferno only sees the needs to change to palamonk ler
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you're right. i also dual wield until inferno act 2, only then forced to start using shield at some point

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 15 2012, 08:40 PM)
stats without enchantress and mantara buff...

any suggestion... hmm.gif thats what i can do for my Monk with my current gold .. lulz..
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Nice stats. Maybe you wanna increase your LOH to 800+? You can sacrifice some aspd / dex / vit for it.


QUOTE(Coconut @ Jul 15 2012, 09:31 PM)
Hm i try use serenity, after 3 sec, one or two hit, hp left half, use breath of heaven, tahan few more sec...then die

I try search AH for weapons, at my level dps around 2xx, cost 50k and above....100k to be save, which is about 1/4 of my gold, still trying to bid see can get any cheap weapon
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Can try Ascension runes, 4 sec goes a long way over the heal. I assume you're not standing on any elemental floor damage (plagued, molten, desecrator) cause you're not supposed to. Since you use Mystic Ally, you can always use him as your 'decoy' while kiting, for e.g. while you're running away from mobs keep casting ally (b4 he dies cast another), until your heal / pot / serenity cooldown ends.

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QUOTE(illusi0nat0r @ Jul 15 2012, 11:32 PM)
Nice stats. Maybe you wanna increase your LOH to 800+? You can sacrifice some aspd / dex / vit for it.

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if LOH.... i gona replace the Star Green gem on weapon to star purple...
and my DPS goes down 4k.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
going to grab the legendary amulet Ouroboros,
133 dex , soket, LOH 355, and CC 4%... maybe will help abit.. >_<


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QUOTE(Coconut @ Jul 15 2012, 05:40 PM)
Hm need help guys, currently on hell act 1, keep on dying/having difficulty killing those elites, any suggestion on my stats?

Right now i am using dual weapon, whenever i see elites then change to shield, but sometimes with shield also 2 or 3 strike die...
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just manage to korek my old stats on the previous thread..
this is my status.. when i am on 52. before 1.03 patch.. which means.. not yet nerf the atkspd..
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Going to end Act 3 inferno soon, at the heart of sin now. after dying many time with dual weilding in act 3, no choice need to change to 1 hand dagger and shield combination.

current resist 1k, armor 7k unbuff, DPS 17k unbuff(with 765dps dagger). very slow on taking out monster, and not enough money to buy better DPS weapon with good stat.

until now i nv use Loh weapon item before, is it really help alot in surviving?
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:11 AM)
Going to end Act 3 inferno soon, at the heart of sin now. after dying many time with dual weilding in act 3, no choice need to change to 1 hand dagger and shield combination.

current resist 1k, armor 7k unbuff, DPS 17k unbuff(with 765dps dagger). very slow on taking out monster, and not enough money to buy better DPS weapon with good stat.

until now i nv use Loh weapon item before, is it really help alot in surviving?
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just when i thought i finally found a good item 1-hand sword with 840+ dps...then it says only barb use !#!@#@! doh.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(illusi0nat0r @ Jul 15 2012, 11:43 AM)
I read somewhere its 1:10 ratio. Ideally 40% CC and 400% CD. Maybe you want to up another 80% CD first? Personally I feel 20-30% CC is enough to spawn cyclone to make everything melt (with >1.7aspd)
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Guys! Need help about crit build.

Everyone talking about it. So, I decided to try it out. Mostly using drops. Managed to take crit% to 20%, crit damage still just 50%. sweat.gif That is without scarify too much on my other stat.

So, I roll out in Act2, Sweeping wind+Cyclone, kill a few elites. BUT:

First spam on Sweeping wind almost like no cyclone. Need to spam it 3 times to get lotsa cyclone?

75*3 = 225 spirit

Since I only have 150 spirit, need to wait quite a file to build it up so that I can spam 3 times. My atk speed is ~ 1.82. It takes quite awhile to get cyclone to it's max stack. So, crit build must have higher IAS as well?

For just 30 minutes of testing at really low 20% crit and 50% crit dmg... it's killing slower than my usual build:

Vortex Jailer ReflectDamage Illusionist (easy) - 20 seconds

Question is; do we need to stack up Cyclone to 3 stacks?


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 09:42 AM)
First spam on Sweeping wind almost like no cyclone. Need to spam it 3 times to get lotsa cyclone?

IIRC, the tooltip should say there's a chance of generating a cyclone on crit hit only when you are at max stacks already (i.e. 3 stack). I no money to change gear to CC/CD tho so I no use that skill. Plus since already beat Inferno feel lazy to spend money to upgrade, now just farming and selling itamz on RMAH only.
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:11 AM)
Going to end Act 3 inferno soon, at the heart of sin now. after dying many time with dual weilding in act 3, no choice need to change to 1 hand dagger and shield combination.

current resist 1k, armor 7k unbuff, DPS 17k unbuff(with 765dps dagger). very slow on taking out monster, and not enough money to buy better DPS weapon with good stat.

until now i nv use Loh weapon item before, is it really help alot in surviving?
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Wah 17k unbuff... i 22k unbuff also damn slow in killing elites. My LoH is at 1k it doesn't help a lot vs elites but white mobs u can just run in and take em all without any worry.
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i have no LoH and my resist is about 700+ armor unbuff about 5k

crit chance 37% crit damage 380% killing elites in act 3 about 20-30secs

if there are no retarded affixes such as invulnerable shielding bla bla

dps 47k with blazing wrath
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 09:42 AM)
Guys! Need help about crit build.

Everyone talking about it. So, I decided to try it out. Mostly using drops. Managed to take crit% to 20%, crit damage still just 50%.  sweat.gif That is without scarify too much on my other stat.

So, I roll out in Act2, Sweeping wind+Cyclone, kill a few elites. BUT:

First spam on Sweeping wind almost like no cyclone. Need to spam it 3 times to get lotsa cyclone?

75*3 = 225 spirit

Since I only have 150 spirit, need to wait quite a file to build it up so that I can spam 3 times. My atk speed is ~ 1.82. It takes quite awhile to get cyclone to it's max stack. So, crit build must have higher IAS as well?

For just 30 minutes of testing at really low 20% crit and 50% crit dmg... it's killing slower than my usual build:

Vortex Jailer ReflectDamage Illusionist (easy) - 20 seconds

Question is; do we need to stack up Cyclone to 3 stacks?


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u no need to spam.. the Sweeping wind will stack.. once you land a crit hit on enemy, it will stack to 2, and so on.. up to 3 stack max...
after the full 3 stacks, if u land a crit hit on enemy again, it will generate lightning tornado...

i try replace flash blind to sweeping wind ... just to try... but end up.. i notice that sweeping wind x jadi bcoz I need to kite around on certain elites.... (fire ground, poision ground.. etc..) =/
so i use back flash blind for the 30% dmg increase every 15second...

I also trying CC , CD build... my CC is 22.5% .. my atkspd around 1.8 as well... i try use way of hundred fist with blazing fist.. ... chances of landing crit hit are high.. and fast ..(due to the atkspd incrase) but... ... i need to move really close to hit the target.. =/ so.. i giv up as well.. use back deadly reach... slower.. but. to survive.. .. >.<


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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 16 2012, 10:05 AM)
i have no LoH and my resist is about 700+ armor unbuff about 5k

crit chance 37% crit damage 380% killing elites in act 3 about 20-30secs

if there are no retarded affixes such as invulnerable shielding bla bla

dps 47k with blazing wrath
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700+ resist can tahan fire ground ka??

me resist 700+ also... Yesterday.. i kena one pack elite in act 3..
Jailler, frozen , fire ground...

wan kite... jail me... cast fire ground... ..
right after jail finish.. frozen... ... i die until .............. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 10:42 AM)
Guys! Need help about crit build.

Everyone talking about it. So, I decided to try it out. Mostly using drops. Managed to take crit% to 20%, crit damage still just 50%.  sweat.gif That is without scarify too much on my other stat.

So, I roll out in Act2, Sweeping wind+Cyclone, kill a few elites. BUT:

First spam on Sweeping wind almost like no cyclone. Need to spam it 3 times to get lotsa cyclone?

75*3 = 225 spirit

Since I only have 150 spirit, need to wait quite a file to build it up so that I can spam 3 times. My atk speed is ~ 1.82. It takes quite awhile to get cyclone to it's max stack. So, crit build must have higher IAS as well?

For just 30 minutes of testing at really low 20% crit and 50% crit dmg... it's killing slower than my usual build:

Vortex Jailer ReflectDamage Illusionist (easy) - 20 seconds

Question is; do we need to stack up Cyclone to 3 stacks?


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Need to spam wan meh? I think you misunderstand d.
Cyclone will only come out after you have 3 stacks. Which mean you need 3 critics minimum.

Use thunderclap coz got radius, sometime if hit 3 target all 3 got critic, can straight get 3 stacks d. Very fast.


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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:13 AM)
u no need to spam.. the Sweeping wind will stack.. once you land a crit hit on enemy, it will stack to 2, and so on.. up to 3 stack max...
after the full 3 stacks, if u land a crit hit on enemy again, it will generate lightning tornado...

i try replace flash blind to sweeping wind ... just to try... but end up.. i notice that sweeping wind x jadi bcoz I need to kite around on certain elites.... (fire ground, poision ground.. etc..)  =/
so i use back flash blind for the 30% dmg increase every 15second...

I also trying CC , CD build...  my CC is 22.5% .. my atkspd around 1.8 as well... i try use way of hundred fist with blazing fist.. ... chances of landing crit hit are high.. and fast ..(due to the atkspd incrase) but... ... i need to move really close to hit the target.. =/ so.. i giv up as well.. use back deadly reach...  slower.. but. to survive.. .. >.<
Thanks for the explanation! I totally miss-understood that Cyclone thingy. Will experiment with it again.

I am like you, using blinding flash at the moment. Killing is fast... but only in Act2!



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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 16 2012, 10:21 AM)
Need to spam wan meh? I think you misunderstand d.
Cyclone will only come out after you have 3 stacks. Which mean you need 3 critics minimum.

Use thunderclap coz got radius, sometime if hit 3 target all 3 got critic, can straight get 3 stacks d. Very fast.
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thunderclap ? the distance far ar???
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 16 2012, 10:21 AM)
Need to spam wan meh? I think you misunderstand d.
Cyclone will only come out after you have 3 stacks. Which mean you need 3 critics minimum.

Use thunderclap coz got radius, sometime if hit 3 target all 3 got critic, can straight get 3 stacks d. Very fast.
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Thanks. I understand now. How fast is it to kill a group of elite with cyclone? Generally?
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 10:34 AM)
Thanks. I understand now. How fast is it to kill a group of elite with cyclone? Generally?
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thunderclap ? the distance far ar???
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I really like your build actually. If you also have problem in Act3, I guess Act3 and crit build is not for me.

Just want to ask, since your armor is low, have you try use "Evasion+20%armor"?

Thunderclap has low distance, just like WoTHF. I recommend you switch from Deadly Reach to Thunderclap+Evasion+20% armor. I hope to see you kill elite less than 20 seconds in Act2... it will give me reason to invest in Crit build. biggrin.gif

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Personally thinks that Deadly Reach+Keen Eye and Lashing Tail Kick+Sweeping Armada does a nice defensive job. Instead of killing elites I try not to get killed by elites tongue.gif

My current build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;dXU!ZZZcac
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 16 2012, 11:33 AM)
thunderclap ? the distance far ar???
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thunderclap is teleport wan. I micro teleport if got arcane, descretor and so on.
short range, got small radius but punch faster.



QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 11:34 AM)
Thanks. I understand now. How fast is it to kill a group of elite with cyclone? Generally?
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cyclone kill fast if you got a lot of mini thunder storm. 20% damage from each
I can fill up the map 10+ storm

How fast u ask? read the comment

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5889229004

I 've been using this build since the patch. Shhhh, inb4 blizzard nerf


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 10:41 AM)
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I really like your build actually. If you also have problem in Act3, I guess Act3 and crit build is not for me.

Just want to ask, since your armor is low, have you try use "Evasion+20%armor"?

Thunderclap has low distance, just like WoTHF. I recommend you switch from Deadly Reach to Thunderclap+Evasion+20% armor. I hope to see you kill elite less than 20 seconds in Act2... it will give me reason to invest in Crit build. biggrin.gif
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i all the while using MOE +20% amor.. laugh.gif ...
my previous LOH build w/o CC and CD .. can survive and take down elites in act 3.. but killing damn slow...
but i switch to CD and CC build... got problem to survive.. .. i guest cd and cc build is for super high dps monk... me average dps monk kenot.. doh.gif doh.gif

let me try thunderclap...hmm
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Jul 16 2012, 10:01 AM)
Wah 17k unbuff... i 22k unbuff also damn slow in killing elites.  My LoH is at 1k it doesn't help a lot vs elites but white mobs u can just run in and take em all without any worry.
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i suggest if you want to use thunderclap better use it with MoC + overawe.

you need to kill as fast as possible.

skills that im using

Mantra of Conviction + Overawe

Blinding + Faith in Light

Heal + Blazing

Serenity + Ascension

Sweeping Wind + Cyclone

FoT + Thunderclap

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Resolve + OneWEverything + Seize
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 09:42 AM)
Guys! Need help about crit build.

Everyone talking about it. So, I decided to try it out. Mostly using drops. Managed to take crit% to 20%, crit damage still just 50%.  sweat.gif That is without scarify too much on my other stat.

So, I roll out in Act2, Sweeping wind+Cyclone, kill a few elites. BUT:

First spam on Sweeping wind almost like no cyclone. Need to spam it 3 times to get lotsa cyclone?

75*3 = 225 spirit

Since I only have 150 spirit, need to wait quite a file to build it up so that I can spam 3 times. My atk speed is ~ 1.82. It takes quite awhile to get cyclone to it's max stack. So, crit build must have higher IAS as well?

For just 30 minutes of testing at really low 20% crit and 50% crit dmg... it's killing slower than my usual build:

Vortex Jailer ReflectDamage Illusionist (easy) - 20 seconds

Question is; do we need to stack up Cyclone to 3 stacks?


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I'll try to make a video of me farming at Machines of War map later using Cyclone + Backlash. Normally I just click once on Cyclone and lots will appear. What software do you use to record it? First timer here sweat.gif
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I'll try to make a video of me farming at Machines of War map later using Cyclone + Backlash. Normally I just click once on Cyclone and lots will appear. What software do you use to record it? First timer here  sweat.gif
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Finally! The master himself! It's bee awesome to see this in Act3. Can use this software for free to record video:

http://www.fraps.com/

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waiting for flix video.

you'll surprise to see the damage number stack like assassin cross sonic blow. lol
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Guys...what's the stats you need for act 3 ?

I can faceroll act 2 but act 3 still kinda hard sad.gif
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user posted image

this good enuf for act3?
never tried...sked...

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^

How come your dps so high ? My crit chance + crit dmg higher , dex almost the same using dual wield but around 25k
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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 16 2012, 11:34 AM)
I'll try to make a video of me farming at Machines of War map later using Cyclone + Backlash. Normally I just click once on Cyclone and lots will appear. What software do you use to record it? First timer here  sweat.gif
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fraps is standard then manual upload.

if you wanna livestream, you can consider twitch, livestream, ustream, justintv etc etc
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 16 2012, 12:35 PM)
^

How come your dps so high ? My crit chance + crit dmg higher , dex almost the same  using dual wield but around 25k
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sorry wrong pic. that pic was for the buff dps thread. as you can see the breath of heaven was cast as shown on the life per second in the first pic


this is my unbuff stats. everything unbuff
im no theory guru so i dont know why you do less dps than me
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^ I think maybe your 1h is high dps ?

Mine is around 800
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2012, 11:48 AM)
Finally! The master himself! It's bee awesome to see this in Act3. Can use this software for free to record video:

http://www.fraps.com/
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 16 2012, 12:39 PM)
fraps is standard then manual upload.

if you wanna livestream, you can consider twitch, livestream, ustream, justintv etc etc
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 16 2012, 01:03 PM)
^ I think maybe your 1h is high dps ?

Mine is around 800
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i guess u are right. my 1hand axe is 932 dps
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Guys, my current dps was difficult to raise up significantly. My CC 38%, CD 235%. And using 1h weapon DPS 757.4 .
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How much this weapon worth ?
Should i funding for 1k damage with 70% above cri without dex?
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QUOTE(INter86 @ Jul 16 2012, 04:04 PM)
Guys, my current dps was difficult to raise up significantly. My CC 38%, CD 235%. And using 1h weapon DPS 757.4 .
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How much this weapon worth ?
Should i funding for 1k damage with 70% above cri without dex?
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id keep it as my "stats stick" until another better weapon drops naturally. wouldn't fret on looking at AH for upgrade tongue.gif
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thats some nice stats on that sword~
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QUOTE(INter86 @ Jul 16 2012, 05:04 PM)
Guys, my current dps was difficult to raise up significantly. My CC 38%, CD 235%. And using 1h weapon DPS 757.4 .
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How much this weapon worth ?
Should i funding for 1k damage with 70% above cri without dex?
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wah nice.

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id keep it as my "stats stick" until another better weapon drops naturally. wouldn't fret on looking at AH for upgrade tongue.gif
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ya....this sword really boost my dps with high CC. still got 30% more damage on changing gem. except the dps...other stats will be nice. just wonder how they have 50k~70k unbuff damage.
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... have to -3k dps for LOH and some others stats... T.T kesian me.. now 26k dps oni.. T.T
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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 16 2012, 09:36 PM)
can't seem to attach the youtube tag here  hmm.gif




CODE

[youtube]1pDbokDFr3o[/youtube]

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thank you  notworthy.gif
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hmm, your attack as fast as duel wield.

you really stack a lot of attack speed too.
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having problem in act 3 even with lot of normal mob.

dps 20k, resist 600+-. hp 28k.

any advise ? thx
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having problem in act 3 even with lot of normal mob.

dps 20k, resist 600+-. hp 28k.

any advise ? thx
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this may not sound much but don't get surrounded... unless u have high crits + cyclone, well may be u can...

i was with 880 resist, 25k HP, 23k DPS, no LoH and no crits, can progress in Act3. i was careful not to let any creep behind me... i dont know if mob can get more damage if they are behind you, but it's more likely that if they are in front, my atk 'knock' / disturb their atk a little...
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lol i die like cp vs elite in act 3. 20k dps, 170% crit, 30khp, 840+ all res. 8k armor buffed. need more powerful weapon.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 17 2012, 12:12 PM)
this may not sound much but don't get surrounded... unless u have high crits + cyclone, well may be u can...

i was with 880 resist, 25k HP, 23k DPS, no LoH and no crits, can progress in Act3. i was careful not to let any creep behind me... i dont know if mob can get more damage if they are behind you, but it's more likely that if they are in front, my atk 'knock' / disturb their atk a little...
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can fight elite ka? my DPS only 15k buff 1-hand+ shield. Resist can push to 900+ but meet those super elites still die kao kao..haha. Maybe I need more armour now only 6.3k after buff..hp is circa 30k

Tried fight dual wield with 15k base dmg buff to 20k but facing the shamans damn alot also killed me.. laugh.gif
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How much dps needed to get past Belial, yesterday I tried with 13k dps buff like giving her scratching only. Today (oh wait maintenance) will try MoC + Overawe + dual wield. Which attack to use? Now using Deadly Reach + Keen Eye.

no $ to buy gooding dps cry.gif

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14k unbuff

then you need to punch faster
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dual wield dagger liao, should I go for IAS? Dam lots of stuff need to add in, crit dmg, crit chance, LoH rclxub.gif
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deadly reach slow la. fist of thunder or hundred fist punch faster.


you need to kill belial fast before he enrage
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any idea for skill build in inferno act 3 & 4 ?

cano survive !
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dual wield dagger liao, should I go for IAS? Dam lots of stuff need to add in, crit dmg, crit chance, LoH rclxub.gif


IMHO, if u choose crit theres no need for IAS as you will kill really fast.

If you wanna play IAS i suggest you play LoH so you can just stand there without kiting i suppose haha
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 17 2012, 04:54 PM)
IMHO, if u choose crit theres no need for IAS as you will kill really fast.

If you wanna play IAS i suggest you play LoH so you can just stand there without kiting i suppose haha
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IAS and LoH and crit/crit dmg works relatively.

there is no prioritization for either.
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yes of course but you wont get the best out of it thats wat i feel

and it is of course costly to have all
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i am stuck at inferno act 1 elite..
current status (unbuff):
dps: 14052.55
armor: 3494
hp: 25021
resist: 68

what is the min status for survive act 1 elite and farm act 1?

current skill built:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZXU!acabcc

any suggestion? need help.... spend 100k++ repairing. keep die when meet elite. normal mob can kill very well... wierd..
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armor 4k
res 500


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well, i got armor 8k buffed with MoE Hard target + 500 all resist, act 1 is no problem even i wear my mf180%unbuff gear @ 5k armor+400ar.

Gonna try hundred fist + MoConviction today.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 17 2012, 06:18 PM)
well, i got armor 8k buffed with MoE Hard target + 500 all resist, act 1 is no problem even i wear my mf180%unbuff gear @ 5k armor+400ar.

Gonna try hundred fist + MoConviction today.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 17 2012, 06:18 PM)
well, i got armor 8k buffed with MoE Hard target + 500 all resist, act 1 is no problem even i wear my mf180%unbuff gear @ 5k armor+400ar.

Gonna try hundred fist + MoConviction today.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 17 2012, 06:18 PM)
well, i got armor 8k buffed with MoE Hard target + 500 all resist, act 1 is no problem even i wear my mf180%unbuff gear @ 5k armor+400ar.

Gonna try hundred fist + MoConviction today.
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400 ar?

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QUOTE(anechoic @ Jul 17 2012, 02:48 PM)
can fight elite ka? my DPS only 15k buff 1-hand+ shield. Resist can push to 900+ but meet those super elites still die kao kao..haha. Maybe I need more armour now only 6.3k after buff..hp is circa 30k

Tried fight dual wield with 15k base dmg buff to 20k but facing the shamans damn alot also killed me..  laugh.gif
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Can fight, but damn slow and hard. I kite a lot when facing Elite. biggrin.gif Progression is OK, but cannot farm, too slow... dont feel bad, not everyone is flix. smile.gif

This is me, 23k DPS 'farming' in Act3... now I farm in Act2... sweat.gif (best watch after you see flix's vid in action) thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 17 2012, 06:35 PM)
Can fight, but damn slow and hard. I kite a lot when facing Elite. biggrin.gif Progression is OK, but cannot farm, too slow... dont feel bad, not everyone is flix. smile.gif

This is me, 23k DPS 'farming' in Act3... now I farm in Act2...  sweat.gif (best watch after you see flix's vid in action)  thumbup.gif


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you using fraps too right? how come your video can be 4 mins+ but mine is saved in separate files around 2 minutes each?  hmm.gif
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may be the file size. fraps will automatically save to a separate file after the file size = 4 GB.

try change it to 30FPS?
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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 17 2012, 06:28 PM)
MoE.. what is that stands for?


Added on July 17, 2012, 6:29 pm

400 ar?
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mantra of evasion
all resist

u gotta learn all these Diablo short name lol

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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 17 2012, 06:05 PM)
armor 4k
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i farm act 1 with like 6k armor and 200 all resist and 20k hp... so.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 17 2012, 05:53 PM)
i am stuck at inferno act 1 elite..
current status (unbuff):
dps: 14052.55
armor: 3494
hp: 25021
resist: 68

what is the min status for survive act 1 elite and farm act 1?

current skill built:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZXU!acabcc

any suggestion? need help.... spend 100k++ repairing. keep die when meet elite. normal mob can kill very well... wierd..
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er.. resist .. 68? or 680???
if really is 68.. i think your resist x cukup.. and also your amor .. not that enough

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any idea for skill build in inferno act 3 & 4 ?

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How much dps needed to get past Belial, yesterday I tried with 13k dps buff like giving her scratching only. Today (oh wait maintenance) will try MoC + Overawe + dual wield. Which attack to use? Now using Deadly Reach + Keen Eye.

no $ to buy gooding dps cry.gif
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u kena die on which part? the poision ground boom part?


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act 3 is still quite difficult and takes a long time to progress zz
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surviving with the current stats....
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 18 2012, 08:18 AM)
surviving with the current stats....
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act 3 with these stats? u kidding me?
why do i find it difficult? cry.gif

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these are mine unbuff
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isit just becoz of your LoH u are able to survive?
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act 3 is still quite difficult and takes a long time to progress zz
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avg people does it within 1-2 hours


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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 18 2012, 08:42 AM)
act 3 with these stats? u kidding me?
why do i find it difficult?  cry.gif

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these are mine unbuff
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isit just becoz of your LoH u are able to survive?
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 18 2012, 08:42 AM)
act 3 with these stats? u kidding me?
why do i find it difficult?  cry.gif

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these are mine unbuff
cry.gif

isit just becoz of your LoH u are able to survive?
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I still mati la of coz... not that totally tak mati..
minimal death lor... from bridge to SB.. clear all... mati like.. 3-4 times like tat lor... sad.gif
(totally tak mati --> Flix notworthy.gif )

base on your stats... your dps cc and cd good leh...
but... but.. 1.30 atkspd... unsure.gif maciam abit slow... hmm.gif
but u got high HP and average amor and quite high resistance.. .... might able for u to tank a while... hmm.gif
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My old stats, help me finish Diablo, and currently farming in Act 3 easily. ( Now got abit Upgrade )

Act 3 -Act 4 are the same % in drops, ACT 3 drops much better in Seigebreaker quest.

AVG from bridge to Azmodan around 2 hours+.

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u kena die on which part? the poision ground boom part?
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Belial's last AOE. Her life till 20% or so.

Last night spent about 1 mill of my on hand money to bid a chestplate with 3 slots, and bidding some 800dps weapons. Manage to pump dex to 1.5k and vit to 1k. Time to unslot my amethyst to replace with Emerald. Target is to achieve 1.8k dex.

Tried Fist of thunder + thunderclap for elites, sometimes hard to control and landed into molton +dissecerator/poison center shakehead.gif I think I better leave this to boss kill. As far as Belial is concern, FoT use what rune better? Bounding light?
7 sided strike gooding? Or I should switch to exploding palm + Impending doom

It is not that I can't hit Belial, I die mostly due to the AoE damage unsure.gif


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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 10:29 AM)
My old stats, help me finish Diablo, and currently farming in Act 3 easily. ( Now got abit Upgrade )

Act 3 -Act 4 are the same % in drops, ACT 3 drops much better in Seigebreaker quest.

AVG from bridge to Azmodan around 2 hours+.

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May I ask what is the weapon u use to makes it to 30k damage? 900-1000dps?

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 17 2012, 05:53 PM)
i am stuck at inferno act 1 elite..
current status (unbuff):
dps: 14052.55
armor: 3494
hp: 25021
resist: 68

what is the min status for survive act 1 elite and farm act 1?

current skill built:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZXU!acabcc

any suggestion? need help.... spend 100k++ repairing. keep die when meet elite. normal mob can kill very well... wierd..
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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 17 2012, 06:28 PM)
MoE.. what is that stands for?


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get a specific resist (poison/fire etc) + All resist and use One with Everything to boost your resist easily . laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 10:57 AM)
Belial's last AOE. Her life till 20% or so.

Last night spent about 1 mill of my on hand money to bid a chestplate with 3 slots, and bidding some 800dps weapons. Manage to pump dex to 1.5k and vit to 1k. Time to unslot my amethyst to replace with Emerald. Target is to achieve 1.8k dex.

Tried Fist of thunder + thunderclap for elites, sometimes hard to control and landed into molton +dissecerator/poison center shakehead.gif I think I better leave this to boss kill. As far as Belial is concern, FoT use what rune better? Bounding light?
7 sided strike gooding? Or I should switch to exploding palm + Impending doom

It is not that I can't hit Belial, I die mostly due to the AoE damage unsure.gif


Added on July 18, 2012, 10:59 am
May I ask what is the weapon u use to makes it to 30k damage? 900-1000dps?
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943DPS with LOH of 633 and Crit Damage of 96% ( Base as there's no slot ) , cost me 20 million. Thats why you see in the pic left 600K haha.

Can kill belial before his 2nd poison bomb, with usage of MoC, Overawe and cyclone, blade storm.

34K based DPS without BoH. with BoH 15% gets 39K.

I follow uncle flix stylo. Need to hit more on Attack Speed and Crit Chance d.

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 11:25 AM)
943DPS with LOH of 633 and Crit Damage of 96% ( Base as there's no slot ) , cost me 20 million. Thats why you see in the pic left 600K haha.

Can kill belial before his 2nd poison bomb, with usage of MoC, Overawe and cyclone, blade storm.

34K based DPS without BoH. with BoH 15% gets 39K.

I follow uncle flix stylo. Need to hit more on Attack Speed and Crit Chance d.
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20mil shocking.gif I see a 2mil weap also kthxbai lol
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[Edited] My bad on misunderstanding. Sorry yuhhaur.

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 10:29 AM)
My old stats, help me finish Diablo, and currently farming in Act 3 easily. ( Now got abit Upgrade )

Act 3 -Act 4 are the same % in drops, ACT 3 drops much better in Seigebreaker quest.

AVG from bridge to Azmodan around 2 hours+.

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How come your dps so higher than mine ?

I got more dex / crit chance / crit dmg but still lower <--- Dual wielding and you're using 1h + board sad.gif

What's your weapon ?

Can share your build ? I can't farm act 3 cry.gif
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Kindly show me the 2 mil weapon, with same stats or higher. I want to buy 10 and resell.
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Kindly show me the 2 mil weapon, with same stats or higher. I want to buy 10 and resell.
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what I meant I saw some weapon with 2mil cost I already no way to buy liao. mine is mostly 500k max sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 11:33 AM)
what I meant I saw some weapon with 2mil cost I already no way to buy liao. mine is mostly 500k max sweat.gif
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Hahaha my bad, misunderstanding, my one was from bidding, no buyout, starting with 50K, then bid 100K then leave it, no point keep upping the price, went to work then balik home 16Mil already.

As i remember it was Tuesday maintenance, waited to 8pm, and put my max bid of 20mil ( since its proxy bidding ), after maintenance saw i won at 20MILLION.

Damn pain la, but nvm, i feel now worth every penny of it, helped me farm act 3 and earn back the IGG with RMAH.

QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 18 2012, 11:33 AM)
How come your dps so higher than mine ?

I got more dex  / crit chance / crit dmg but still lower <--- Dual wielding and you're using 1h + board sad.gif

What's your weapon ?

Can share your build ? I can't farm act 3  cry.gif
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Bro, 1 handed ( if your shield is good ) have more damage then dual wielding. I think someone mention before previously that shield is your off hand side, so your dual wielding on your character's left is your 2nd main hand, so damage is not as what is displayed on your main hand ( right side ) , as when you hit your 1st attack, you main hand hits 1st followered by your 2nd, hence the dmg not that high.

My weapon as mentioned before 943DPS with LOH of 633 and Crit Damage of 96%. My shield is 157 dex 89 vit +64 poison resist ( i pump poison ) +32All Resist Crit Chance 9.5%. This shield cost me another 8million.

Build ar, i cant link the BNET skill build, in office blocked bnet's web.

As i can remember, should be Mystic Ally, Sweeping Wind, BoH, Serenity. Passive is OwE, Dex = 100% Armor, and also Dodge Change is 30% of crit chance.

Elites with Descerator, just need to move 1 square box away. Plague, poison, molten all can tahan.

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 11:47 AM)
Hahaha my bad, misunderstanding, my one was from bidding, no buyout, starting with 50K, then bid 100K then leave it, no point keep upping the price, went to work then balik home 16Mil already.

As i remember it was Tuesday maintenance, waited to 8pm, and put my max bid of 20mil ( since its proxy bidding ), after maintenance saw i won at 20MILLION.

Damn pain la, but nvm, i feel now worth every penny of it, helped me farm act 3 and earn back the IGG with RMAH.
Bro, 1 handed ( if your shield is good ) have more damage then dual wielding. I think someone mention before previously that shield is your off hand side, so your dual wielding on your character's left is your 2nd main hand, so damage is not as what is displayed on your main hand ( right side ) , as when you hit your 1st attack, you main hand hits 1st followered by your 2nd, hence the dmg not that high.

My weapon as mentioned before 943DPS with LOH of 633 and Crit Damage of 96%. My shield is 157 dex 89 vit +64 poison resist ( i pump poison ) +32All Resist Crit Chance 9.5%. This shield cost me another 8million.

Build ar, i cant link the BNET skill build, in office blocked bnet's web.

As i can remember, should be Mystic Ally, Sweeping Wind, BoH, Serenity. Passive is OwE, Dex = 100% Armor, and also Dodge Change is 30% of crit chance.

Elites with Descerator, just need to move 1 square box away. Plague, poison, molten all can tahan.
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Thanks , what's your left/right mouse ? FoT - Thunderclap?
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1. Serenity
2. BOH
3. Mystic Ally
4. MoC
WotF-( forgotten the rune, its a short tele and 10% additional dmg)
Sweeping Wind.
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1. Serenity
2. BOH
3. Mystic Ally
4. MoC
WotF-( forgotten the rune, its a short tele and 10% additional dmg)
Sweeping Wind.
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ok thanks I go try and see later tonight


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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 11:47 AM)
... put my max bid of 20mil
... This shield cost me another 8million.

where the fraq do you guys get all this money. My gold stash never gone above 5mil, and none of my gear is more than 1.5mil each T_T
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where the fraq do you guys get all this money. My gold stash never gone above 5mil, and none of my gear is more than 1.5mil each T_T
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cheers.gif me2. yesterday was my biggest spending with purchased of a chest plate 670 armor, +80dex, +150vit, 3 socket, 48 resist. cost: 750k sweat.gif Half of my moneh gone!

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 03:08 PM)
cheers.gif me2. yesterday was my biggest spending with purchased of a chest plate 670 armor, +80dex, +150vit, 3 socket, 48 resist. cost: 750k sweat.gif Half of my moneh gone!
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YOu LIEZ!!!!!!

You got 23+ gf..just roll Act 3 Hell you get it back in like 1 hour!!!.. Liar liar pants on fire.. tongue.gif

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YOu LIEZ!!!!!!

You got 23+ gf..just roll Act 3 Hell you get it back in like 1 hour!!!.. Liar liar pants on fire.. tongue.gif
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I change liao, 23x gf can't do much.
Now farming MF act 1 tongue.gif Hopefully can strike a fortune - jackpot sell 20mil then I fatt lar.

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found my first Set item! unfortunately, not very good stat, dont think i can sell a lot... market is not good recently...
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where the fraq do you guys get all this money. My gold stash never gone above 5mil, and none of my gear is more than 1.5mil each T_T
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Erm...Keep farming lo, one time 2 hours in seigebreaker , if lucky can sell rares / gold drops around 100-300K, if lucky.

Sell items lo, those noob items sell cheap gold, those rare ones sell in RMAH.

My pickup gold is about 20+ million. Hours played about 300+ on Monk, 100+ on DH.

Quit DH liao. I last time farm act 2 with MF, drops not as good as normal NV on Act 3.

My own personal experience, others i dont know.

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Looks like I am more of AH leecher than seller. My sales never goes more than 300k. And I spent alot of my moneh on gem crafting. Now on hand I had 10 slots to fill (1 weapon, 2 ring, 1 helm, 1 amulet, 3 chestplate, 2 pants) and I already got 8 star gem. that is about 5-6 millions investment already.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 03:57 PM)
Looks like I am more of AH leecher than seller. My sales never goes more than 300k. And I spent alot of my moneh on gem crafting. Now on hand I had 10 slots to fill (1 weapon, 2 ring, 1 helm, 1 amulet, 3 chestplate, 2 pants) and I already got 8 star gem. that is about 5-6 millions investment already.
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No wonder la..you so pokai...ahahaha..sold your GF stuff aledi ah? Oh well nice pick up on the chest armour. If only bthe vit was slightly higher it will be awesome but 750k is cheap lor. smile.gif

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My gems now are all +46 already. As the picture shown are my old stats.

For now, my eq is OKOK only, need to farm to get better Amulets and Rings.
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Any kinda soul can open up KILL THE AZMODAN waypoint for me?

And anyone selling 900dps + AS + 800 LOH + socket weapon?
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 18 2012, 04:01 PM)
No wonder la..you so pokai...ahahaha..sold your GF stuff aledi ah? Oh well nice pick up on the chest armour. If only bthe vit was slightly higher it will be awesome but 750k is cheap lor. smile.gif
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My GF is tied to my MF. GF17x + MF15X unbuff. I manage to pump my vit to 1k liao. gonna remove all the amethyst and replace by emerald.

I need moar firepower!


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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 18 2012, 04:32 PM)
Any kinda soul can open up KILL THE AZMODAN waypoint for me?

And anyone selling 900dps + AS + 800 LOH + socket weapon?
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LifeX paid 20mil for that less socket. You got 30mil for that? thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 03:50 PM)
Erm...Keep farming lo, one time 2 hours in seigebreaker , if lucky can sell rares / gold drops around 100-300K, if lucky.

Sell items lo, those noob items sell cheap gold, those rare ones sell in RMAH.

My pickup gold is about 20+ million. Hours played about 300+ on Monk, 100+ on DH.

Quit DH liao. I last time farm act 2 with MF, drops not as good as normal NV on Act 3.

My own personal experience, others i dont know.
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try to do nightmare SB till arreat crater lvl 1. jump to lvl 2, jump to azmodan (load the last scenario be azmodan to do this). more profitable. I can do that in an hour run. no need to sell AH la all merchant enuf. simple and no worry. earning from 150k.
Or do hell run can get some ilvl 60-62 items.


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 04:36 PM)
My GF is tied to my MF. GF17x + MF15X unbuff. I manage to pump my vit to 1k liao. gonna remove all the amethyst and replace by emerald.

I need moar firepower!


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LifeX paid 20mil for that less socket. You got 30mil for that? thumbup.gif
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IF got la.. I can fork out 30m..
Currently using 774dps + 8% AS + 849LOH + socket .. I can sell it off plus my current balance 16m.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 18 2012, 04:32 PM)
Any kinda soul can open up KILL THE AZMODAN waypoint for me?

And anyone selling 900dps + AS + 800 LOH + socket weapon?
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Wow..thats almost a perfect roll chor...its gonna be ex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOH 800 + Socket.....IMBA!!!

I got a bow 11% IAS+ 300 LOH, 1086 DPS. bought for 1.2 Million. Might as well go Ammy with crit damage and LOH with the change..smile.gif Combine....cheaper

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 18 2012, 05:40 PM)
Wow..thats almost a perfect roll chor...its gonna be ex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOH 800 + Socket.....IMBA!!!

I got a bow 11% IAS+ 300 LOH, 1086 DPS. bought for 1.2 Million. Might as well go Ammy with crit damage  and LOH with the change..smile.gif Combine....cheaper
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where the fraq do you guys get all this money. My gold stash never gone above 5mil, and none of my gear is more than 1.5mil each T_T
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I got some fist/dagger to let go. Ytd so desperate overbid items and (un)fortunately I won most of the bid.
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I got some fist/dagger to let go. Ytd so desperate overbid items and (un)fortunately I won most of the bid.
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have LOH stuff ah?
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400dps with 915LoH u want? blush.gif
Mostly are critical Damage, around 6xx-7xx dps
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How much LOH do I need to do Inferno Act 2? unsure.gif
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Fellow situ what are the requirement to survive act 3 till ghom (omg!) just solo-Ed belial just now rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 18 2012, 08:50 PM)
How much LOH do I need to do Inferno Act 2? unsure.gif
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Me: 16k dps with LoH 300! 5k armor unbuff, 600AR, 40k hp. Later I upload my stats.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 08:51 PM)

Me: 16k dps with LoH 300! 5k armor unbuff, 600AR, 40k hp. Later I upload my stats.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 08:49 PM)
400dps with 915LoH u want? blush.gif
Mostly are critical Damage, around 6xx-7xx dps
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already sacrificed DPS for LOH... if pakai 400DPS lagi teruk hahaha
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MF+GF for farming, with 5NV
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Main gear to survive. Kill belial with this. NOTE: Unbuff. If buff with Erath ally + enchantress then armor about 5k+.
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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 03:50 PM)
Erm...Keep farming lo, one time 2 hours in seigebreaker , if lucky can sell rares / gold drops around 100-300K, if lucky.

Sell items lo, those noob items sell cheap gold, those rare ones sell in RMAH.

My pickup gold is about 20+ million. Hours played about 300+ on Monk, 100+ on DH.

Quit DH liao. I last time farm act 2 with MF, drops not as good as normal NV on Act 3.

My own personal experience, others i dont know.
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not enough gear, dont even think about doing this lol.

ive did a few attempts, 3-4 hours.

still, i got some good loots despite the shitty gold gain, so cant complain much. however most efficiency is still act 1 warden > butcher for me. until i gear up just a bit more >.>


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 18 2012, 08:51 PM)
Fellow situ what are the requirement to survive act 3 till ghom (omg!) just solo-Ed belial just now rclxm9.gif


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Me: 16k dps with LoH 300! 5k armor unbuff, 600AR, 40k hp. Later I upload my stats.
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25k-30k dps or so to kill ghom comfortably.
600-800 all resist with ~7-9k armor.
300-500 LoH.

can refer to my livestream ghom kill video (my stats were basically bare minimum which is obvious when im going critical numerous times and ghom actually enraged whistling.gif )

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That means I need to keep on farming lol
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Just finished another Act2 run. Started at 10:48pm, by the time it's 11:48pm, already killed 21 elite and boss... in average, killed 1 elite every 3 minutes biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bigQbear @ Jul 18 2012, 08:24 PM)
halo~ i'm new here... Cyruz is my sifu biggrin.gif
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u more geng den me liao... dry.gif

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 01:43 AM)
Just finished another Act2 run. Started at 10:48pm, by the time it's 11:48pm, already killed 21 elite and boss... in average, killed 1 elite every 3 minutes biggrin.gif

Slideshow: https://plus.google.com/photos/116793011854...563955659807010
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looted any ting good???

yesterday i also act 2 run... got a 1k dps 2 hand hammer... ... saja put up AH.. cheap cheap... i tot no ppl wan.. mana tao got ppl buy from AH

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 19 2012, 07:02 AM)
u more geng den me liao... dry.gif
looted any ting good???

yesterday i also act 2 run... got a 1k dps 2 hand hammer... ... saja put up AH.. cheap cheap...  i tot no ppl wan.. mana tao got ppl buy from AH
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How much you put on AH ?
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QUOTE(koyuuken @ Jul 19 2012, 10:01 AM)
How much you put on AH ?
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I put in AH 1.4k DPS with 200+int and 100+ vit Buyout 750K also nobody 1. You lucky lo. LOL.
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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 19 2012, 10:22 AM)
I put in AH 1.4k DPS with 200+int and 100+ vit Buyout 750K also nobody 1. You lucky lo. LOL.
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i still got few in Ah... got one.. 9xx dps... 7xx LOH.. no ppl buy.. =.=''
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guys, what are your thoughts on pumping Health Globe Bonus?

i'm running 19k health globe bonus, 1.5k LoH, but my DPS only 9k LOL!!


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which 1 is better weapon for monk ?

or should i use both for dual-wield ?

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 19 2012, 10:22 AM)
I put in AH 1.4k DPS with 200+int and 100+ vit Buyout 750K also nobody 1. You lucky lo. LOL.
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QUOTE(poyol @ Jul 19 2012, 10:41 AM)
guys, what are your thoughts on pumping Health Globe Bonus?

i'm running 19k health globe bonus, 1.5k LoH, but my DPS only 9k LOL!!
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which 1 is better weapon for monk ?

or should i use both for dual-wield ?

thx
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870 dps. if you can dual wield the better

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 19 2012, 07:02 AM)
looted any ting good???

yesterday i also act 2 run... got a 1k dps 2 hand hammer... ... saja put up AH.. cheap cheap...  i tot no ppl wan.. mana tao got ppl buy from AH
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yesterday not fruitful, but still found 2 rare amulet iLvl62 with toopid stat. selling in RMAH anyway. brows.gif

2 days ago, found my first set item biggrin.gif




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monk use 2-handed weapon fight inferno effective?? act2/3?

since its cheaper..haha. but i guess slow IAS will not be effective even have LoH..

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monk use 2-handed weapon fight inferno effective?? act2/3?

since its cheaper..haha. but i guess slow IAS will not be effective even have LoH..
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 19 2012, 11:43 AM)
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or should i use both for dual-wield ?

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choose faster weapon. this high damage but you hit slow.
LoH also not efficient d. LoH is a must to hit fast

Another point, if your weapon lower damage but your hit rate can deal same damage as slow weapon.

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WEAPON TIME:
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Any takers?
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QUOTE(anechoic @ Jul 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
monk use 2-handed weapon fight inferno effective?? act2/3?

since its cheaper..haha. but i guess slow IAS will not be effective even have LoH..
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i dont use LoH. so, i tried build up Life per Spirit spent and Passive Transcendence. bought this Daibo for 50k. Together with Transcendence, i got close to 100 life per spirit spent. i like to spam mantra that has no timeout, although it heal pretty well, the atk is too slow for my liking. although i have some IAS in amulet and rings...


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 11:05 AM)
i dont use LoH. so, i tried build up Life per Spirit spent and Passive Transcendence. bought this Daibo for 50k. Together with Transcendence, i got close to 100 life per spirit spent. i like to spam mantra that has no timeout, although it heal pretty well, the atk is too slow for my liking. although i have some IAS in amulet and rings...
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talking about 2h vs dual wield, isn't that dual 700dps better than a single 2h 1.4k dps due to faster attack speed and 2 times more stacking of stats?
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 11:04 AM)
WEAPON TIME:
Any takers?
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so, that's where all your $ gone? laugh.gif
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yea, lost to Belial on saturday - monday then I on rage mode spam bidding tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 11:07 AM)
talking about 2h vs dual wield, isn't that dual 700dps better than a single 2h 1.4k dps due to faster attack speed and 2 times more stacking of stats?
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generally, i'd say yes. but 1h weapon is so expensive... so, if $ no issue... well.. blush.gif


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yea, lost to Belial on saturday - monday then I on rage mode spam bidding  tongue.gif
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thought only boss has enrage-timeout. sweat.gif but if u need help to kill Belial, i can help. i kill him in every run anyway. PM me.

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your weapons... not suitable for my built. hahahaha
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 19 2012, 10:43 AM)
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The 800+ DPS as your based dps is higher, even though LOH is low, makes no diff on the 300+ if inferno elite hits you 1000+.

Kill faster with a little bit bonus to add HP.


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 19 2012, 10:43 AM)
1.4k dps itu apa weapon? i may want lol
2 handed bro. later go home show.


QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 11:07 AM)
talking about 2h vs dual wield, isn't that dual 700dps better than a single 2h 1.4k dps due to faster attack speed and 2 times more stacking of stats?
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Told in previous post, dual wield lower damage is because 2nd main hand doesnt comply full DPS as in displayed in main hand, thats why its call "Off-Hand".

You can try to put a 700+DPS on the Off-Hand and compare with putting a shield after that. The difference is not much ( depending on shield stats n weapon dps ), Thats why people hold shield rather then dual wielding.

People who duals probably wants LOH or Crit Dmg on both sides. Im using 96% crit dmg on my fist and crit chance 9.5 on my shield. its the same as i dual wield, plus i have 20% block chance with 3000-4000 block damage.

If you have high resist and high armor with massive vit for you to tank and LOH back your hp, then dual wield would be good, but i strongly suggest getting a shield. :-), as i previously tried with 8k armor and 1033 resist unbuff ( then using MoH with Resist 20% Rune and with enchant ), and dual wielding with LOH at 1.8K.

Act II cannot even hit any shit, keep dying. Only can farm act 1. Then later on seek uncle flix advice, change my play style. now Act 4 is like previous Act 2. Act 3 like Act 1 edy.

Since Act 3 and 4 have same % , might as well farm Act 3. Won't die and better, but take longer time on Cydaera and Azmodan.

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2 handed bro. later go home show.
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btw any knew how the life steal formula calc?

make it like example 3% life steal (max stat). life steal benefit to those huge dps + range?
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can, just letme know biggrin.gif
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KK, will show if its not sold. :-)


QUOTE(KIntos @ Jul 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
btw any knew how the life steal formula calc?

make it like example 3% life steal (max stat). life steal benefit to those huge dps + range?
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For Life Steal %, in inferno they have nerf it. So not effective already. For other difficulties it works 100% as per the stats shown.

In inferno i think they nerf it to 0.2% for the full 100% stats.

LoH would be a much better option.

Its rather unfair to Monk, as if you use WotF, even though you hit 7 hits ( without rune ), you only get 1 time LOH as its consider as one attack with multiple hits.

Barb with WotB hit so damn fast, and crit dmg n chance passive, and with overpower n ignore pain, so imba.


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 11:14 AM)
thought only boss has enrage-timeout.  sweat.gif but if u need help to kill Belial, i can help. i kill him in every run anyway. PM me.
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Killed her ytd. Finally I find that FoT better than deadly reach in inferno.

QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 19 2012, 11:23 AM)
your weapons... not suitable for my built. hahahaha
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Of course la, you are so up there in the ranking. Mine for entry level monk suitable for act 1-2.

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how much victory gore and cat's knock?
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jul 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
btw any knew how the life steal formula calc?

make it like example 3% life steal (max stat). life steal benefit to those huge dps + range?
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works like this:

if the damage you deal = 100k
3% life steal = 3k life back to you

but since inferno nerf that to 20%, you only get 3k * 20% = 600 life.

that is almost the same as if you have a LoH of 600.

except, LoH has co-efficiency on multiple target. meaning to say, when you use skill such as FoT (that hit multiple targets), you only get 75% of 600 LoH. but it's for every target.

Life steal does not have co-efficiency, so, you will get pure 600 on each target.

range got nothing to do with this.

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If you got 100k damage deal. Most of our monk deal how much damage? My dps is just 16k with 200% critical hit is only 30k maybe? Life steal nerfed so you get 200 life back.
LoH 600 is always 600 whether you hit a target dealing 3k damage or 30k damage. So LoH wins.

Best? LoH + fast or High Crit chance + High crit dmg (as per Sifu's advise)
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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 19 2012, 11:33 AM)
KK, will show if its not sold. :-)
For Life Steal %, in inferno they have nerf it. So not effective already. For other difficulties it works 100% as per the stats shown.

In inferno i think they nerf it to 0.2% for the full 100% stats.

LoH would be a much better option.

Its rather unfair to Monk, as if you use WotF, even though you hit 7 hits ( without rune ), you only get 1 time LOH as its consider as one attack with multiple hits.

Barb with WotB hit so damn fast, and crit dmg n chance passive, and with overpower n ignore pain, so imba.
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alright. 1 hit eventhough multihit skill so basically LoH is much reliable option. Thanks


QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 11:45 AM)
works like this:

if the damage you deal = 100k
3% life steal = 3k life back to you

but since inferno nerf that to 20%, you only get 3k * 20% = 600 life.

that is almost the same as if you have a LoH of 600.

except, LoH has co-efficiency on multiple target. meaning to say, when you use skill such as FoT (that hit multiple targets), you only get 75% of 600 LoH. but it's for every target.

Life steal does not have co-efficiency, so, you will get pure 600 on each target.

range got nothing to do with this.
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so if im using group hit skill like FoT, i would get 75% of 600 Loh/target? consider like 75% of 600* 5 target?


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 11:55 AM)
If you got 100k damage deal. Most of our monk deal how much damage? My dps is just 16k with 200% critical hit is only 30k maybe? Life steal nerfed so you get 200 life back.
LoH 600 is always 600 whether you hit a target dealing 3k damage or 30k damage. So  LoH wins.

Best? LoH + fast or High Crit chance + High crit dmg (as per Sifu's advise)
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so meaning life steal might be benefit to those slow attacking but huge dps dmg. example 2h using 1.6k dps weapon boosted up to above 100k dps

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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jul 19 2012, 11:57 AM)
so if im using group hit skill like FoT, i would get 75% of 600 Loh/target? consider like 75% of 600* 5 target?
yes. at our current DPS, LoH is definitely better.

but in long run, LoH has a few problem:

1. LoH will not give you life if you use Sweeping Wind's Cyclone or other DoT (Exploding Palm) attacks. Life steal may... i say may because i cant find any info on this. Will buy some life steal weapon and test this when i get enough $. imaging Exploding Palm's Essense Burn that will affect multiple targets...
2. LoH will not increase due to your crit chance and crit damage.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 12:06 PM)
yes. at our current DPS, LoH is definitely better.

but in long run, LoH has a few problem:

1. LoH will not give you life if you use Sweeping Wind's Cyclone or other DoT (Exploding Palm) attacks. Life steal may... i say may because i cant find any info on this. Will buy some life steal weapon and test this when i get enough $. imaging Exploding Palm's Essense Burn that will affect multiple targets...
2. LoH will not increase due to your crit chance and crit damage.
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You mean if sweeping wind is active I won't get life per hit?
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What about dual wield with one hand LoH and another hand crit hit+crit dmg, will the actual damage take both into consideration upon EVERY HIT?
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QUOTE(poyol @ Jul 19 2012, 12:09 PM)
You mean if sweeping wind is active I won't get life per hit?
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no, what i mean is, Sweeping wind itself will not give your Life if you are not hitting anything. but with Life Steal, u stand there, Sweeping wind do damage, you get Life...


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What about dual wield with one hand LoH and another hand crit hit+crit dmg, will the actual damage take both into consideration upon EVERY HIT?
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Dual wield in Diablo works differently than other RPG. Each hand has it's own damage. Each hand take damage alternatively. So with your setup, first hit (with LoH), you get Life. Second hit with Crit hand, you will not get Life. *i think i m wrong in this part, need to research more*

But you still have 15% IAS by simply dual wield. If you use passive, you get another 15% chance to dodge.

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after reading this, one noob question. if I have one loh ring, it will have effect on both hands ?
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Question :

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Hand 2 : spear with crit dmg and life steal 3%

will i get life steal every hit?
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QUOTE(bigQbear @ Jul 19 2012, 01:27 PM)
Question :

Hand 1 : fist with crit dmg only
Hand 2 : spear with crit dmg and life steal 3%

will i get life steal every hit?
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not sure, but i just assume la.

if use fist of thunder.

2nd and 3rd might get life steal.



i did research when i'm building for dual wield monk.
many theories or best advise from them are get both weapon which have almost similar stats.

in WoW, offhand are sure to hit slower. So they would put higher dps weapon on main hand and faster weapon on offhand. But in D3, they say both hand are kinda same.

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Life on hit or Life steal on any part of your items. You will get it on every swing.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 19 2012, 12:22 PM)
after reading this, one noob question. if I have one loh ring, it will have effect on both hands ?
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your noob question make me realize i could be wrong about the LoH on dual wield... will look into this after lunch hehehe... sorry for confusing others... hopefully some sifu can come and safe my a$$ by providing the correct theory...
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I read it somewhere before in google.
If I still remember it correctly.

Life steal or Life on hit will stack. Doesn't matter which part has it, you will get it on your every hit be it main hand or off hand swing.

Like many pro explained, blizzard nerf the life steal in inferno. So, life on hit is better.

There's hidden scaling that reduce your life on hit/life steal based on the skill/rune that you use. Let say you hit one target with 100 LOH, you get 100% which is 100HP. IF your skill has small area of AOE, then the percentage will reduce. The bigger the AOE, the lower the percentage you're getting.
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my target now is just to hit 50k dps unbuff and it will make my life so much easier in act3
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 19 2012, 12:22 PM)
after reading this, one noob question. if I have one loh ring, it will have effect on both hands ?
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non weapons LoH/IAS/Crit dmg etc affects globally. it's weapons that even myself am not sure of
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 01:46 PM)
I read it somewhere before in google.
If I still remember it correctly.

Life steal or Life on hit will stack. Doesn't matter which part has it, you will get it on your every hit be it main hand or off hand swing.

Like many pro explained, blizzard nerf the life steal in inferno. So, life on hit is better.

There's hidden scaling that reduce your life on hit/life steal based on the skill/rune that you use. Let say you hit one target with 100 LOH, you get 100% which is 100HP. IF your skill has small area of AOE, then the percentage will reduce. The bigger the AOE, the lower the percentage you're getting.
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true! Before this, i was a WD. Each skill have different amount of effect for LoH.
For monk, no people research yet. But i know Fist of Thunder is the best LoH skill.



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many question mark on my brain liao.. lulz..

.. my first hand.. high cd with socket.. so i slot +70% cd gem....
.. my offhand.. high LOH with socket.. so i slot +400 LOH gem....

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shall i swap the gem? make it balance??? rclxub.gif

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so how does LoH works on "way of the hundred fist" ?
if lets say i got 500 LoH, each mini hits = 500 LoH?
or 1 complete cycle = 500 LoH?

lol im guessing the latter but who knows?

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 19 2012, 01:14 PM)
so how does LoH works on "way of the hundred fist" ?
if lets say i got 500 LoH, each mini hits = 500 LoH?
or 1 complete cycle = 500 LoH?

lol im guessing the latter but who knows?

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to make it more complicated, each rune has different effect. by default, the co-efficiently is:

75 / 9* / 50

So, with 500 LoH, first atk = 500 * 75% = 375
Second attacks = 500 * 9% * 7 mini hits = 315
Third hit = 500 * 50% = 250.

With that 3 hits, each mob give you 940. The 3rd strikes has lower value because the AOE increased too.

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key...cHhkTjB5b0hZTkE

Best to use is Fists of Fury: 150 / 18* / 100
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time to do a recording with all the numbers shown. open up the char bar also. master flix can do us a still shot with this??
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 01:32 PM)
to make it more complicated, each rune has different effect. by default, the co-efficiently is:

75 / 9* / 50

So, with 500 LoH, first atk = 500 * 75% = 375
Second attacks = 500 * 9% * 7 mini hits = 315
Third hit = 500 * 50% = 250.

With that 3 hits, each mob give you 940. The 3rd strikes has lower value because the AOE increased too.

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key...cHhkTjB5b0hZTkE

Best to use is Fists of Fury: 150 / 18* / 100
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ah ic. now i understand how it works.
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 19 2012, 01:59 PM)
many question mark on my brain liao.. lulz..

.. my first hand.. high cd  with socket.. so i slot +70% cd gem....
.. my offhand.. high LOH with socket.. so i slot +400 LOH gem....

... rclxub.gif

shall i swap the gem? make it balance??? rclxub.gif
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My 1hand n off hand equip with

1. Dps 611, 198 vit, loh 506, socket(star emerald 70% cd)

2. Dps 689, 159vit, loh 498, socket(star emerlad 70% cd)

Ok or not? Need comment from all tq

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 19 2012, 01:46 PM)
My 1hand n off hand equip with

1. Dps 611, 198 vit, loh 506, socket(star emerald 70% cd)

2. Dps 689, 159vit, loh 498, socket(star emerlad 70% cd)

Ok or not? Need comment from all tq
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which act? 1k LoH gooding nya.

I finished act 2 with dual wield 7xxdps and about 500LoH. damm u got a nice socketed weapon can pump up the crit dmg. How's your crit chance?
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 19 2012, 02:32 PM)


Best to use is Fists of Fury: 150 / 18* / 100
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hmmm, i only tested the blazing fist and found out i LoH slower. At night i try see this.
And also Fist of Thunder is the best spirit generator.

Hundred fist punch a lot but generate slower coz for example 2nd strike you punch 9 time but they only generate 9 spirit.
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Let me search for you guys.
http://diablo3blog.blogspot.com/2012/05/li...teal-guide.html
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 02:49 PM)
which act? 1k LoH gooding nya.

I finished act 2 with dual wield 7xxdps and about 500LoH. damm u got a nice socketed weapon can pump up the crit dmg. How's your crit chance?
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198% cd, 23% cc only n Farming act 2..

My 1st hand i found at act 1
Off hand i bid 700k only..

Other item still low dex n vit but high res..

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Aiseh. Why 8xx dps + 8xx LOH + socket + AS all over 100m in AH !? So expensive ah!
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I got 803 DPS with 633 LOH and 96% Crit Dmg. You want?

Very cheap only 35Mil ( buyout ). No AS and no Socket la. but 96% crit dmg shud be ok.

Now in AH i think is at 15-16mil.

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 06:19 PM)
Aiseh. Why 8xx dps + 8xx LOH + socket + AS all over 100m in AH !? So expensive ah!
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Or u keep farming until get nice 1 and try sell it cheap2..
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 19 2012, 05:56 PM)
Ntg free in this world bro..
Or u keep farming until get nice 1 and try sell it cheap2..
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Sorry le bro, the other day the glove deal gone haywire. Got some issue going on that time. :-)
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I'm using 774dps + 849LOH + 8% AS + socket ..
I'm looking to upgrade to somewhere around 850dps with other stat remain same but AH all is over 100m.. Some even put 1b or 2b.. WTH? LOL...
I farm so many days already but didn't get good weapon. Only legendary like stormshield, zunimassa, band of hollow whisper, etc..
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 07:03 PM)
I'm using 774dps + 849LOH + 8% AS + socket ..
I'm looking to upgrade to somewhere around 850dps with other stat remain same but AH all is over 100m.. Some even put 1b or 2b.. WTH? LOL...
I farm so many days already but didn't get good weapon. Only legendary like stormshield, zunimassa, band of hollow whisper, etc..
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*only*, hor?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 19 2012, 07:16 PM)
*only*, hor?
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Yeah.. And blackthorne's pant ..

Not worth anything la.. Sold everything for around 20m only.. tongue.gif This week is my lucky week..
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I jelly. If only I got 20mil

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 07:33 PM)
Yeah.. And blackthorne's pant .. 

Not worth anything la.. Sold everything for around 20m only.. tongue.gif  This week is my lucky week..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 07:33 PM)
I jelly. If only I got 20mil
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maybe if you hadn't engaged the RMAH you wouldn't have to jelly. but hey, play auction house 3 and earn real money > any job any day aye?

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 19 2012, 07:33 PM)
I jelly. If only I got 20mil
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I jelly u can sell ToS in RMAH .. mad.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 19 2012, 07:35 PM)
right, only.


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maybe if you hadn't engaged the RMAH you wouldn't have to jelly. but hey, play auction house 3 and earn real money > any job any day aye?
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I play DH for 330hours and monk for 66 hours.. This week only got a bit reward.. Most of the time i get trash.. Don't like that la.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 08:03 PM)
Only legendary like stormshield, zunimassa, band of hollow whisper, etc..
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sell ur legendary cheap2 or u can sell ur stormshield to me for 100k ;D
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 19 2012, 07:41 PM)
I jelly u can sell ToS in RMAH ..  mad.gif
I play DH for 330hours and monk for 66 hours.. This week only got a bit reward.. Most of the time i get trash.. Don't like that la..  sweat.gif
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no LOH at all here, faceroll Act 1 n 2
But Act 3 .... after ghom, facerolled by elite in the warzone sad.gif
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Jul 20 2012, 11:20 AM)
no LOH at all here, faceroll Act 1 n 2
But Act 3 .... after ghom, facerolled by elite in the warzone sad.gif
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Sometimes the SOB mobs keep running into more enemies then I kena faceroll cry.gif
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Die die oso kenot reach 30k dps.. Stuck at 29k arghhhhhh
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Monk Logic

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Actually if you notice properly , I think they fixed some of the animation , you do see them swing the weapon
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 20 2012, 03:21 PM)
Actually if you notice properly , I think they fixed some of the animation , you do see them swing the weapon
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for certain weapons and skill.. yes.. ..
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 20 2012, 03:21 PM)
Actually if you notice properly , I think they fixed some of the animation , you do see them swing the weapon
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i already mentioned this in either few post back and/or v1 thread lol.

for 2handed, only deadly strike and crippling wave updated.

fist of thunder/100 fist not yet
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can monk solo act3 , act v without LOH ?

damn good LOH weapon is so expensive now day . sad.gif

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question for all monks tongue.gif

in inferno what type of weapon is used to solo? whats the dps & other stats needed?
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 20 2012, 05:17 PM)
can monk solo act3 , act v without LOH ?
damn good LOH weapon is so expensive now day . sad.gif

weapon with slot then put in star purple gem for 300 loh lor.
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question for all monks tongue.gif

in inferno what type of weapon is used to solo? whats the dps & other stats needed?
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Act 1 and 2 still can dual wield, act 3 onwards... see how la I still struggling act 3 and dunno should switch to palamonk (aka 1H + shield) or not.

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question for all monks tongue.gif

in inferno what type of weapon is used to solo? whats the dps & other stats needed?
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i got no LOH, no problem with everything except few insane packs. To be played safety, deadly reach + keen eye, and earth mystic ally always work good~ if you can't affort high LOH or high life per spirit spent, health globe is your friend, make it above 10k and pick up radius 7. DPS roughly 25k, AR 800, def 6000 without buff should be ok.
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question to fellow monks,

is a Helm Of Command with following stats

+135 Dex
+156 Vit
+272 Armor
+8% Chance to Block
Critical Hit Chance Increased by 4.5%

useful for u guys?
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jul 21 2012, 10:38 AM)
question to fellow monks,

is a Helm Of Command with following stats

+135 Dex
+156 Vit
+272 Armor
+8% Chance to Block
Critical Hit Chance Increased by 4.5%

useful for u guys?
thanks  notworthy.gif
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veli useful.
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veli useful.
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how much can u estimate it to worth?
because i bid it for 31.5m 2 weeks ago and never manage to sell in RMAH.... cry.gif
$60 = unsold..
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losing money lol. basing on current rate @ 20USD/10mil that investment is...
$63!

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yeah, wrong investment
thats why can sell for $60 satisfied already...
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HoC no resistance. Thats why hard to sell.

And ppl who looks for Dex, only Monk and DH, both also need resistance to cover up.

So its hard bro.
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If there was a socket on it then i'll sure take it tongue.gif
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wan to let go for lyn mbr cheap2
interested plz pm me
price 1M & 3M only very2 low price compare to AH
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wan to let go for lyn mbr cheap2
interested plz pm me
price 1M & 3M only very2 low price compare to AH
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ovepriced as fuk
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ovepriced as fuk
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sorry to say, but yeah. especially based on the statement "letting go to lyn members cheap cheap"

but yeah if you disagree, feel free to just AH it.
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lol i just sold 1h mace ., 832 dps , + 132 str , 600 LOH. at 1.4m only lol


economy no good . dont expect much l tongue.gif

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Those can sell for 1m/3m? Any rares below 800 dps goes to the vendor or Haedrig sweat.gif
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Those can sell for 1m/3m? Any rares below 800 dps goes to the vendor or Haedrig  sweat.gif
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can sell for few hundred k la, better than vendor w

i mean, i dont have many things in my 10 slot auctions that can sell for m unlike you probably, so... yeah lol
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 21 2012, 08:33 PM)
can sell for few hundred k la, better than vendor w

i mean, i dont have many things in my 10 slot auctions that can sell for m unlike you probably, so... yeah lol
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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 21 2012, 08:35 PM)
yeah i've tried selling for few hundred K but most of it gets expired. probably cause the stats were lousy even for those 700+ dps ones.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 21 2012, 08:10 PM)
ovepriced as fuk

i have a 700dps 555LoH fist on AH and it's on current bid 12,100gold rofl (buyout 250k)
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i have a 700dps 555LoH fist on AH and it's on current bid 12,100gold rofl (buyout 250k)
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that is actually a pretty good weapon... and that low? >_<
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 21 2012, 10:59 PM)
that is actually a pretty good weapon... and that low? >_<

oops, my mistake, it was a dagger. probably cos of the stats? 85str 111int sad.gif expiring in 12 hours, too so I've got no high hopes that it'll sell for anything much.
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oops, my mistake, it was a dagger. probably cos of the stats? 85str 111int sad.gif expiring in 12 hours, too so I've got no high hopes that it'll sell for anything much.
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though id say just wait till it sells. some people tend to just bid/snipe at the last 5mins so you'll never know lol
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My old stats, help me finish Diablo, and currently farming in Act 3 easily. ( Now got abit Upgrade )

Act 3 -Act 4 are the same % in drops, ACT 3 drops much better in Seigebreaker quest.

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guys..
u guys prefer tank over dps or dps over tank ? going to roll a monk
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QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 22 2012, 12:14 PM)
guys..
u guys prefer tank over dps or dps over tank ? going to roll a monk
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IINM, DPS is always better, unless you are really short of money
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IINM, DPS is always better, unless you are really short of money
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QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 22 2012, 12:14 PM)
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u guys prefer tank over dps or dps over tank ? going to roll a monk

it's not a binary choice.

as melee, you NEED a certain level of defense to take hits. You can never play a full glass cannon style like you can with wiz or DH. Once you have "enough" defense, your choice is then whether to stack more defense (cheaper) to last longer, or stack more offense (way more expensive) to kill quicker.
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Monk always need to tank whether you like it or not.

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guys... i just pass inferno act 1, when comes to inferno act 2, i cant fight elite at all.. my current stat ia as below..

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want to ask what is the minimun stat to survive inferno act 2 elite? how acbot act 3?


Added on July 22, 2012, 6:17 pmone more question, which follower should i carry and what skill should the follower learn? got any diference (if i bring different follower)?

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boost AR and hp lor... around 800 AR and 30k hp ok. Use earth ally.


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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 22 2012, 06:13 PM)


Added on July 22, 2012, 6:17 pmone more question, which follower should i carry and what skill should the follower learn? got any diference (if i bring different follower)?
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im a lvl50 monk in nightmare, keep dying while fighting rakanoth. any tips how to beat him? got killed instantly with his teleport-swing-sword move..
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QUOTE(apsidewatch @ Jul 22 2012, 07:56 PM)
im a lvl50 monk in nightmare, keep dying while fighting rakanoth. any tips how to beat him? got killed instantly with his teleport-swing-sword move..
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Serenity and more dps. Nightmare should not be a problem for a level 50 char, hell issit? Post your stats here?

I got some weapon left over u want?


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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 22 2012, 06:13 PM)
guys... i just pass inferno act 1, when comes to inferno act 2, i cant fight elite at all.. my current stat ia as below..

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and as well as my skill built..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;ZXU!acbacc

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want to ask what is the minimun stat to survive inferno act 2 elite? how acbot act 3?


Added on July 22, 2012, 6:17 pmone more question, which follower should i carry and what skill should the follower learn? got any diference (if i bring different follower)?
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More dex more vit, ur life low. 12k dps not enough for act 2. I passed act 2 with 16k. Now struggle in act 3 just get past catapult down to keep cellar level looking for Ghom.

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QUOTE(anechoic @ Jul 22 2012, 06:18 PM)
boost AR and hp lor... around 800 AR and 30k hp ok. Use earth ally.
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I just completed A2 Inferno. Play co-op public game.
Comfortable with dual-wield throughout the game.
Killed each and every mob/elite/boss we saw.

18K DPS / 42K HP / 620+ AR / 5500 Armor / 850 LOH

I'll upgrade my shoulder and bracer armor. That should give me slightly more DEX/VIT/AR/DPS.
I'll need a barb in A3/A4.

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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 22 2012, 07:36 PM)
The enchantress is my fubu. Never bothered using the other 2. She gives attack speed and armor bonus and often dirty talk with my monk.
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AR = ? arcane resist?

so its still relevant to use fist for act 1 and act 2 that is?

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QUOTE(dearblues @ Jul 23 2012, 12:12 AM)
AR = ? arcane resist?

so its still relevant to use fist for act 1 and act 2 that is?
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AR = All-resist
I picked all resist because I can use the same gears for my DH.

My best fist weapon was only 600+dps.
I used it until A4 Hell.

I'll using axe & spear in A1/A2 Inferno.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 23 2012, 12:30 AM)
AR = All-resist
I picked all resist because I can use the same gears for my DH.

My best fist weapon was only 600+dps.
I used it until A4 Hell.

I'll using axe & spear in A1/A2 Inferno.
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QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 23 2012, 12:40 AM)
wah bro ,, i complete A4 hell wif less than 200dps item =( lvling too slow
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My brain wasn't working fine... too long hours gaming.
I meant I was using axe & spear (dual-wield) in A1 & A2 inferno.
I'm now in A3 Inferno.
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oh.. so need to find a good axe/spear combination for act 3 inferno eh? kk. thx for the info..

( still in act 3 hell tho tongue.gif ) just wanted to be sure what weapon/equipment to use in inferno

600+ dps.. sleep.gif my fist is only 300 dps.. and im at lvl 57 sleep.gif

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QUOTE(dearblues @ Jul 23 2012, 01:31 AM)
oh.. so need to find a good axe/spear combination for act 3 inferno eh? kk. thx for the info..

( still in act 3 hell tho tongue.gif ) just wanted to be sure what weapon/equipment to use in inferno

600+ dps.. sleep.gif my fist is only 300 dps.. and im at lvl 57 sleep.gif
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Act 3 Inferno rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Sifus how you all survive?

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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 22 2012, 07:36 PM)
The enchantress is my fubu. Never bothered using the other 2. She gives attack speed and armor bonus and often dirty talk with my monk.
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This is why I still use WD sometimes, monk/barbs are married to that slut.

LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 09:37 AM)
Act 3 Inferno  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Sifus how you all survive?
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This is why I still use WD sometimes, monk/barbs are married to that slut.

LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS
HEEHEEHEEHEE GIGGLE
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im ok with that slut biggrin.gif

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get better gear lol

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Cakap senang unsure.gif .
Is palamonk a trend to go in act 3? Now I'm still dual wield with 1hand LoH and offhand crit. manage to push to 1.8k dex, 700AR, 6k armor, and 18k dps.

Summerfist and Enchantress doesn't have dirty talk beside knowing that Templar is falling in love with Enchantress.


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 23 2012, 12:43 AM)
My brain wasn't working fine... too long hours gaming.
I meant I was using axe & spear (dual-wield) in A1 & A2 inferno.
I'm now in A3 Inferno.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 10:04 AM)
Cakap senang unsure.gif .
Is palamonk a trend to go in act 3? Now I'm still dual wield with 1hand LoH and offhand crit. manage to push to 1.8k dex, 700AR, 6k armor, and 18k dps.

Summerfist and Enchantress doesn't have dirty talk beside knowing that Templar is falling in love with Enchantress.
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dun wan bear shield, get better gear la. its not a matter of cakap, post 1.0.3 inferno is ez mode even for melees. if it's not easy for you, you're doing something "wrong"

by wrong, it may not be that your playstyle is wrong, it's just how the game design that forces you into playstyles (shield) that you may not like/prefer. until you get better gear, you have to go with cookie cutters.
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Hmm it might be worth a try soloing monk Act 3 with only 1m-2m gears from AH, since 1.03 turned everything into icecream kittens.

It was surprisingly easy for budget barbarian thanks to their overpowered cooldowns like Wrath and Earthquake.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 10:04 AM)
Cakap senang unsure.gif .
Is palamonk a trend to go in act 3? Now I'm still dual wield with 1hand LoH and offhand crit. manage to push to 1.8k dex, 700AR, 6k armor, and 18k dps.

Summerfist and Enchantress doesn't have dirty talk beside knowing that Templar is falling in love with Enchantress.
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Do you have LOH?
I have similar attributes like yours + 850+ LOH.
A3 is doable.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 23 2012, 10:10 AM)
dun wan bear shield, get better gear la. its not a matter of cakap, post 1.0.3 inferno is ez mode even for melees. if it's not easy for you, you're doing something "wrong"

by wrong, it may not be that your playstyle is wrong, it's just how the game design that forces you into playstyles (shield) that you may not like/prefer. until you get better gear, you have to go with cookie cutters.
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normal mob is ok I can 3hit sapu them. just that saw elites (especially on the tight battlefield of keep defense) finding a hard time to kite around

What's the strategy for Ghom? 1.5k LoH can survive? I can swap out the emerald for Amethyst.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 10:22 AM)
normal mob is ok I can 3hit sapu them. just that saw elites (especially on the tight battlefield of keep defense) finding a hard time to kite around

What's the strategy for Ghom? 1.5k LoH can survive? I can swap out the emerald for Amethyst.
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strategy? kite lo.

so many forumers (including myself) posted ghom kill videos lol
i survived ghom with 400+ LOH smile.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 10:22 AM)
normal mob is ok I can 3hit sapu them. just that saw elites (especially on the tight battlefield of keep defense) finding a hard time to kite around

What's the strategy for Ghom? 1.5k LoH can survive? I can swap out the emerald for Amethyst.
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i complete act 3 inferno solo with Dual weiding 20k DPS, 950AR, 38k life, 5k armor, no LoH, only life after kill. Is difficult, especially dealing with elite.
now i get a 450 LOH weapon, and 350 LOH amulet. more easy dealing with elite Act 3, really helps.

for ghom, run around by outer circle. hit him hard(better high DPS), when he start to fart, run away, wait he come to u, hit him hard again. repeat and repeat. if you find the 1st fart still there when u turn one round, use the middle area to avoid fart. (i have 0 LOH when defeating ghom.)
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build? FoT or Deadly Reach?
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I use deadly reach to kite.. keep circling..
Then need to delay him a bit with flash/serenity so that you don't run back to the earlier fart..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 11:55 AM)
build? FoT or Deadly Reach?
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deadly reach - keen eye (now using FoT - thunder clap)
mystic ally - earth
breath of heaven - blazing wrath
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MoC - overawe
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dear all.. i having difficulties to farm.. my current stat quite hard to do inferno act 2.

wanna ask u guys, inferno act 1 which quest better to farm? whats is your farming route for inferno act 1?
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load up b4 warden/butcher. tp to cemetary -> 3-4 elites. tp to festering wood -> 2-3 elites. viola. 5nv. then tp dank cellar, then leoric manor run backward to northern highland, then leoric manor run forward till warder/butcher. end of a session. You can add in other elites that roam around other places if you prefer to clear the map.

this is for MF% farming.
GF? Act 3 NM.

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Jul 23 2012, 01:30 PM)
dear all.. i having difficulties to farm.. my current stat quite hard to do inferno act 2.

wanna ask u guys, inferno act 1 which quest better to farm? whats is your farming route for inferno act 1?
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northern highland look for watch tower. if dont have can remake the game.
festering woods
cemetary forsaken
leoric manor
hall of agony 2 until butcher

but act1 is so yesterday
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last time farm at buthcher run then notice ii too lazy to walk to much so now doing the cementary of forcaken 3 door then redo again laugh.gif
hope they come out a map thats no need to find elite where elite find u but not 2-3 together LOL
1 by 1

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QUOTE(tlts @ Jul 23 2012, 01:42 PM)
last time  farm at buthcher run then notice ii too lazy to walk to much so now doing the cementary of forcaken 3 door then redo again  laugh.gif
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A1 and A3 are quite common.

Try to suggest something different.
Gear up and boost up your gold find %.
Farm at A2 Hell mode - Blood & Sand/The Black Soulstone.
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i prefer act 2 farm. start from black soul stone

->dahlur aosis -> 5NV -> kill kulle -> kill belial -> desert, road to alcanus and so on.


Once get 5 nv, straight kill boss, then slowly farm. no need scare DC or you need to go out to snipe bid.
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or just do warrior's rest over and over. at 200+% MF you'll get a full stash page of rares in 30-35minutes.

[edit] above strategy courtesy of vinluv notworthy.gif

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Solo and co-op for inferno, both are the same right?

Solo i cant even pass act 1 inferno, but co-op can...makes me want to play co-op more, plus easier to get 5NV
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not sure any one post before ..

The Notable Gear Thread For Monks
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4309705111?page=1

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Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?


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Solo and co-op for inferno, both are the same right?

Solo i cant even pass act 1 inferno, but co-op can...makes me want to play co-op more, plus easier to get 5NV
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For your case, it is 4 elites gang-rape you at the same time VS 4 human players gang-rape an elite monster at a time

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 09:38 AM)
Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?
It really depends on your char's build. If your on high resistance already on your own EQ, then go with Hard Target as it increases your dodge chance with Armor +.

If you really have medium resist then Time Of Need is the best.

As for me , I use MoC ( Overawe ), My CC is at 38% and CD at 280%, with overawe, can kill easily. Armor around 6K and Resist at 800+.

Enough to finish Diablo. :-). Show your stats and see.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 09:38 AM)
Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?

MoE (HT) probably better because of the additional dodge. In the first 3 seconds my dodge goes up to something like 60%.
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That also depends on who are you dealing with.

Bosskill : MoH is kinda useless as either they 1hit you or not (like butcher/belial's case) so MoE with dodge is always better. IMHO as for MoC against bosskill, if your attack is high enough you don't even need that to add another few seconds reduction. Better opt for high armor in case you can't avoid the Oh-Shi~ moment.

Elite: As what Sifus' are advised.

NOTE: Dual wield with Guardian's path adds another 15% dodge chance.

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 09:48 AM)
If you really have medium resist then Time Of Need is the best.

Not really.

Example.
Base: 7000 armor (70% DR) 400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 91% DR
Hard Target 8400 armor (73.68% DR) 400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.11% DR
Time of Need 7000 armor (70% DR) 480 resist (61.54% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.91% DR

Time of Need gives only extra 0.8% DR, but at a loss of 15% / 30% dodge.
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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 09:48 AM)
It really depends on your char's build. If your on high resistance already on your own EQ, then go with Hard Target as it increases your dodge chance with Armor +.

If you really have medium resist then Time Of Need is the best.

As for me , I use MoC ( Overawe ), My CC is at 38% and CD at 280%, with overawe, can kill easily. Armor around 6K and Resist at 800+.

Enough to finish Diablo. :-). Show your stats and see.
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I'm still a new Monk, requires a lot of experiment on different skills.
I did some skill tests yesterday and didn't have good runs. laugh.gif

Help me to define high and medium.
Unbuffed, I have 20K DPS / 44K HP / 6000 Armor / 760 AR / 850 LOH

I'm bidding a shoulder armor.
If I get it, I will have 22K DPS / 48K HP / 6150 Armor / 810 AR / 850 LOH


Added on July 24, 2012, 10:24 am
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 24 2012, 09:48 AM)
MoE (HT) probably better because of the additional dodge. In the first 3 seconds my dodge goes up to something like 60%.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:04 AM)
That also depends on who are you dealing with.

Bosskill : MoH is kinda useless as either they 1hit you or not (like butcher/belial's case) so MoE with dodge is always better. IMHO as for MoC against bosskill, if your attack is high enough you don't even need that to add another few seconds reduction. Better opt for high armor in case you can't avoid the Oh-Shi~ moment.

Elite: As what Sifus' are advised.

NOTE: Dual wield with Guardian's path adds another 15% dodge chance.
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MoH was still good in A1/A2 Inferno.
I found it is pretty much useless in A3. The elites are much more powerful.

Without the right skill, I found I was heading to a totally wrong path. laugh.gif
Any recommendation of passive skills?

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 10:14 AM)
I was a Barb.
I'm still a new Monk, requires a lot of experiment on different skills. 
I did some skill tests yesterday and didn't have good runs. laugh.gif

Help me to define high and medium.
Unbuffed, I have 20K DPS / 44K HP / 6000 Armor / 760 AR / 850 LOH

I'm bidding a shoulder armor.
If I get it, I will have 22K DPS / 48K HP / 6150 Armor / 810 AR / 850 LOH
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With your stats it should be fine in Act 3 and 4 with MoC. All your stats is higher then mine. Only DPS lose. I used to use WoTF, but see some pple advise and calculate on the % of LOH per attack. FoT ( Thunderclap ) gets more % in LOH which i have tried == TRUE. With my 2.16 Attack Speed, FoT rocks + your LOH so high, it would be a blast.

My stats now only (with buff ), 55K DPS // 37K HP ( Mystic Ally ) // 6650 Armor ( with Enchant ) // 835 AR // 755 LOH.

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ July 24, 2012, 10:24 am)

MoH was still good in A1/A2 Inferno.
I found it is pretty much useless in A3. The elites are much more powerful.

Without the right skill, I found I was heading to a totally wrong path.  laugh.gif
Any recommendation of passive skills?
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Try using MoC in Act 2. You can see you can finish farming in 15 min or less with your stats. :-).

Do you play Crit Chance?

Im using OfE, Forgotten the name but its dex = 100% armor, and also dodge change = 30% of crit chance.

As i play crit chance so i feel that is more useful for me. Although it doesnt add much its still ok for me, as i dont dual wield ( shield ), the 15% dodge chance dont apply to me.

LPSS i feel its not much use to me, although FoT regens my Spirit damn fast ( due to attack speed , hit more and faster regens my spirits faster ), i rather have dodge then have life as Im rolling with LOH.

Just my two cents.

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:25 AM)
With your stats it should be fine in Act 3 and 4 with MoC. All your stats is higher then mine. Only DPS lose. I used to use WoTF, but see some pple advise and calculate on the % of LOH per attack. FoT ( Thunderclap ) gets more % in LOH which i have tried == TRUE. With my 2.16 Attack Speed, FoT rocks + your LOH so high, it would be a blast.

My stats now only (with buff ), 55K DPS // 37K HP ( Mystic Ally ) // 6650 Armor ( with Enchant ) // 835 AR // 755 LOH.
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I have shitty attack speed, only 1.23 on a spear.
I'm still wondering to change the weapon or not.
Fist weapon with IAS?

I don't quite get it. You mean with FoT (Thunderclap), there is a better LOH return?


Added on July 24, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:25 AM)
With your stats it should be fine in Act 3 and 4 with MoC. All your stats is higher then mine. Only DPS lose. I used to use WoTF, but see some pple advise and calculate on the % of LOH per attack. FoT ( Thunderclap ) gets more % in LOH which i have tried == TRUE. With my 2.16 Attack Speed, FoT rocks + your LOH so high, it would be a blast.

My stats now only (with buff ), 55K DPS // 37K HP ( Mystic Ally ) // 6650 Armor ( with Enchant ) // 835 AR // 755 LOH.
Try using MoC in Act 2. You can see you can finish farming in 15 min or less with your stats. :-).

Do you play Crit Chance?

Im using OfE, Forgotten the name but its dex = 100% armor, and also dodge change = 30% of crit chance.

As i play crit chance so i feel that is more useful for me. Although it doesnt add much its still ok for me, as i dont dual wield ( shield ), the 15% dodge chance dont apply to me.

LPSS i feel its not much use to me, although FoT regens my Spirit damn fast ( due to attack speed , hit more and faster regens my spirits faster ), i rather have dodge then have life as Im rolling with LOH.

Just my two cents.
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P/S I saw you using Mystic Ally. I used Mystic Ally (Earth) in A1/A2 Inferno too.
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 10:30 AM)
I have shitty attack speed, only 1.23 on a spear.
I'm still wondering to change the weapon or not.
Fist weapon with IAS?

I don't quite get it. You mean with FoT (Thunderclap), there is a better LOH return?


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I have 24.5 crit chance and 233% crit dmg.

P/S I saw you using Mystic Ally. I used Mystic Ally (Earth) in A1/A2 Inferno too.
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?
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Normally we can go with either:
1. LoH + IAS + Thunderclap build for fast attack that will generate back you life, or
2. Critical build, since you won't get LoH here so need to kill them fast
3. both, if you had the godly gear from both side. LifeX had one.

I also retire my earth ally (10% health is nothing, 60% attack diversion feels also nothing in act 3) and replace with sweeping wind.

Yours seems like going on Crit build.
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P/S I saw you using Mystic Ally. I used Mystic Ally (Earth) in A1/A2 Inferno too.
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?
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taofu when kena all those element attack.. others den that.. Earth ally is a very good distraction / tanking clone.. flex.gif
i still using Earth ally to farm in act 3 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 10:30 AM)
I have shitty attack speed, only 1.23 on a spear.
I'm still wondering to change the weapon or not.
Fist weapon with IAS?

I don't quite get it. You mean with FoT (Thunderclap), there is a better LOH return?
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My Fist is IAS10% with 500+LoH crit dmg 96%. Don't use spear lo bro, unless your spear have high ias. Use sword, or Fist or use Axe with minimum 7% IAS ( then reach 1.39 ).

Sword and Fist is at 1.4, you got other EQ up your attack speed then godly d. :-)

On the FoT, yes. As FOT and WOTF have AOE effect Damage, your LOH return doesnt really give 100% LOH as its spread among the mobs around you. If its 1v1 then yea 100%.

I think in the few post before this, one of the monks posted the calculation or table for LOH. Try searching it.

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ uly 24, 2012, 10:33 am)

I have 24.5 crit chance and 233% crit dmg.

P/S I saw you using Mystic Ally. I used Mystic Ally (Earth) in A1/A2 Inferno too.
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?
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Mystic Ally is just to buff my 10% HP and hopefully can distract the other mobs just enough time for me to kill the others. As my CC n CD is high, he himself does about 10-20K Dmg. :-) HP i think also mroe then me, LOL. It only weakness is there's no AR to him. LOL, once go into molten or plague confirm die haha.
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oh ya, speaking of LoH.
remember the list of LoH which skill benifit most?

http://i.imgur.com/rpqd2.jpg

i did a test Fist of Fury VS Thunderclap

Fist of Fury indeed can get more LoH but the crit chance is slower compare to Thunderclap.

I have 35% CC. Thunderclap 1 strike is actually 2 hit. One from punch another is the blast radius. So crit chance much faster to come out compare to Fist of Fury.

So if you building LoH with Crits like me. Thunderclap win!


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:42 AM)
Normally we can go with either:
1. LoH + IAS + Thunderclap build for fast attack that will generate back you life, or
2. Critical build, since you won't get LoH here so need to kill them fast
3. both, if you had the godly gear from both side. LifeX had one.

I also retire my earth ally (10% health is nothing, 60% attack diversion feels also nothing in act 3) and replace with sweeping wind.

Yours seems like going on Crit build.
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still prefer deadly reach for the 50% amor up.. laugh.gif
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THUNDERCLAPS ftw!

Ghom ler ? unsure.gif resort back to deadly reach keen eye???
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Haha shinkawa post the table edy. Aluene you can have a look.

Like i say it really comes down to what kind of build are you playing.

See-ing the fact your on LOH and Crit Build.

So best you can focus on IAS now.
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Actually how much armor on average is sufficient? I've saw some 10k armor build and I was shocking.gif
7k armor + 700AR + 40k hp?
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Actually how much armor on average is sufficient? I've saw some 10k armor build and I was  shocking.gif
7k armor + 700AR + 40k hp?
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how about yours???

me on 5K amor 760 AR 30k hp ... sweat.gif
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Im rolling on only 6650 Armor / 835 AR / 37K HP.

Seems sufficient for me.
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forgot liao. was 4.5k armor + 650AR + 43k hp, but now tuned to more armor less hp


Added on July 24, 2012, 11:07 amMy problem is that I do not have enough damage. Currently only using 7xx dps socketed dagger. Those >800dps weapon are shakehead.gif

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Thanks for all the replies.
I was using Deadly Reach (Keen Eye). I was a Barb and I was sweat.gif when I see my Monk only has 6000 armor. laugh.gif
I'll go try Thunderclap.

So, for Mantra, it would be either MoE (Hard Target) or MoC (Overawe) for defensive or offensive build.

Any recommendation on the passive skills? Seize the Initiative & One with Everything are the common ones.
LifeX mentioned Sixth Sense (along with crit chance) but I am not quite comfortable with the dodge thing (I still have Barb shadow in my brain).
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YTD was testing my 18k dps main gear (low MF% low GF%) to sweep through act 1 REAL fast. but the drops are really meh even with the gold drop.
I was able to saw 2k gold drop with my 12k dps 270%GF+249%mf (buffed) with my farming gear but that only applies to act 1 (not even act 2).

Guess you can't get best of both world I think.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 12:15 PM)
YTD was testing my 18k dps main gear (low MF% low GF%) to sweep through act 1 REAL fast. but the drops are really meh even with the gold drop.
I was able to saw 2k gold drop with my 12k dps 270%GF+249%mf (buffed) with my farming gear but that only applies to act 1 (not even act 2).

Guess you can't get best of both world I think.
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my mf 100% and dps only 14k can go act 2.

if got annoying mob. change back ori gear and kill it.
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I put two of my sword into AH. So , now using 601dps + 11% AS + 932LOH.. Can farm act 2 also with overawe + bladestorm.. keep spamming overawe, mob that come close will have their HP go down quite fast..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 11:15 AM)
YTD was testing my 18k dps main gear (low MF% low GF%) to sweep through act 1 REAL fast. but the drops are really meh even with the gold drop.
I was able to saw 2k gold drop with my 12k dps 270%GF+249%mf (buffed) with my farming gear but that only applies to act 1 (not even act 2).

Guess you can't get best of both world I think.
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Im farming Act 2 with 230% of Magic Find with 22k dps and 200+ Resist. Loh and others r the same.

But in Act 3 need original gears then change swap when dying.
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200resist can survive?


Added on July 24, 2012, 11:33 am
QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 24 2012, 11:23 AM)
I put two of my sword into AH. So , now using 601dps + 11% AS + 932LOH.. Can farm act 2 also with overawe + bladestorm.. keep spamming overawe, mob that come close will have their HP go down quite fast..
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bladestorm better ka? Cyclone is so cute to see those mini-whirlwind.

EDIT: wow, bladestorm really gooding with 60% damage. with Overawe sure become killing machine lol.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 11:30 AM)
200resist can survive?


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bladestorm better ka? Cyclone is so cute to see those mini-whirlwind.

EDIT: wow, bladestorm really gooding with 60% damage. with Overawe sure become killing machine lol.
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Hmm 200 AR in Act 1 also susah..I wonder whats the build? High Vit? Or High Armour
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 24 2012, 11:37 AM)
Hmm 200 AR in Act 1 also susah..I wonder whats the build? High Vit? Or High Armour
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Kill faster lo. 22K with FoT, LoH, Overawe and Bladestorm.

I can la. 37k HP with Mystic Ally. Armor at 6650.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 11:30 AM)
200resist can survive?


Added on July 24, 2012, 11:33 am
bladestorm better ka? Cyclone is so cute to see those mini-whirlwind.

EDIT: wow, bladestorm really gooding with 60% damage. with Overawe sure become killing machine lol.
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Cyclone has wider range cause the mini whirlwind can move but i prefer consistent high dmg to match overawe..
60% dmg per second + 48% dmg taken by mob.. thumbup.gif
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hi fellow monkers
my latest unbuff stats.
still havent upgrade my pants, shoulder and helm yet...everything is so expensive, one at a time
should be able to hit 1k res unbuff by that time

attack speed very low i know but to upgrade that would cost alot so im content with it at the moment

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 24 2012, 01:44 PM)
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hi fellow monkers
my latest unbuff stats.
still havent upgrade my pants, shoulder and helm yet...everything is so expensive, one at a time
should be able to hit 1k res unbuff by that time

attack speed very low i know but to upgrade that would cost alot so im content with it at the moment
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Hm...No LOH, and you play crit build. Nice DPS, nice resist and nice armor. 18% block should be ok.

Like you mention if got better AS and LOH will be added benefit to you, you will be fine farming act 3 and 4 with 51K HP.

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i think his build if no LoH also ok coz got shield. Can use heal per spirit spend. spam the mantra


he need some attack speed to benefit the crits
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 24 2012, 03:39 PM)
i think his build if no LoH also ok coz got shield. Can use heal per spirit spend. spam the mantra
he need some attack speed to benefit the crits
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yea u said it right bro. im spamming mantra to gain health if my hp falls
im still critting on slow AS but can really see the difference if i get a frenzy shrine, the tornados spawn so much more in a short period of time
sadly, if i wanna change items for AS now its gonna cost me a fortune thats y im leaving that behind.
alternatively the only option would be to save up for a good dagger

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Around 40% crit rate and 2.03 attacks per second you will see loads of whirlwinds around the map. Loving that skill.
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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 24 2012, 03:59 PM)
Around 40% crit rate and 2.03 attacks per second you will see loads of whirlwinds around the map. Loving that skill.
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i saw your stats screenshot. really godlike, nice AS nice CC nice LoH
how i wish for such stats but no money cry.gif

i see that you are using an axe too. means all your gear have CC, AS and CD?
how to buff axe until 2 attack per second bro?

tq

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I also follow flix's build. :-)

His other items IAS quite high. His axe pumps dps and crit dmg :-)
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 24 2012, 04:06 PM)
i saw your stats screenshot. really godlike, nice AS nice CC nice LoH
how i wish for such stats but no money  cry.gif

i see that you are using an axe too. means all your gear have CC, AS and CD?
how to buff axe until 2 attack per second bro?

tq
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I think its easier to start with IAS+ then ASI . Say dagger with 1.5 aps + 11% IAS = 1.66 liao..then from there if you get stack ASI..it will x% of 1.66.

eg. dagger with IAS 11% x 10% ASI = 1.826

dagger normal x 21% ASI = 1.815


Thats what I think la...correct me if I am wrong.
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jul 24 2012, 04:06 PM)
i saw your stats screenshot. really godlike, nice AS nice CC nice LoH
how i wish for such stats but no money  cry.gif

i see that you are using an axe too. means all your gear have CC, AS and CD?
how to buff axe until 2 attack per second bro?

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I also follow flix's build. :-)

His other items IAS quite high. His axe pumps dps and crit dmg :-)
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How to kill Ghom the fat fart?? mad.gif
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How to kill Ghom the fat fart??  mad.gif
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I thought you already know? tonight we try? I am at keep level 3.
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I thought you already know? tonight we try? I am at keep level 3.
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I stuck at the big fat fart now.
Any special way to kill it?

I used MoC(Overawe) and sailed smoothly until the fat fart.


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I stuck at the big fat fart now.
Any special way to kill it?

I used MoC(Overawe) and sailed smoothly until the fat fart.
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Unkle's Quazacolt's Ghom kill
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 24 2012, 05:15 PM)
How to kill Ghom the fat fart??  mad.gif
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Added on July 24, 2012, 5:53 pm
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aiks didnt notice you replied with link, much thanks!

also im no unker sad.gif


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Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?
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personally, MoH because there are things you just cannot dodge. the on activation shield + boosted healing is good too if your effective health is high.

MoE has let me down in act2/3 too much to even bother it further usages. and my armor /resistance for the most part is in tuned on the 10:1 ratio with MoH, unless a barb steps in then my resistance shoots off the roof (1.6k from the top stats thread lol)


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:04 AM)
That also depends on who are you dealing with.

Bosskill : MoH is kinda useless as either they 1hit you or not (like butcher/belial's case) so MoE with dodge is always better. IMHO as for MoC against bosskill, if your attack is high enough you don't even need that to add another few seconds reduction. Better opt for high armor in case you can't avoid the Oh-Shi~ moment.

Elite: As what Sifus' are advised.

NOTE: Dual wield with Guardian's path adds another 15% dodge chance.
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its actually better for boss kills/events because there are some things that are undodgable
eg: once you got hooked by butcher and stun, you cannot dodge
you cant dodge belial's ground explosions (but you can block AFAIK)
cannot dodge azmodan's corpse rain and black ground thingy
cant dodge diablo's flames/fireball aftermath DOT/prison

also dodge is not 100%, after you're passed 60-70% mark it gets diminished so quickly it's hard to get any more without sacrificing your other stats (this is coming from me who had 2k+ dex before btw)


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 24 2012, 10:08 AM)
Not really.

Example.
Base: 7000 armor (70% DR) 400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 91% DR
Hard Target 8400 armor (73.68% DR)  400 resist (57.14% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.11% DR
Time of Need 7000 armor (70% DR)  480 resist (61.54% DR) (30% Monk DR) = Overall 92.91% DR

Time of Need gives only extra 0.8% DR, but at a loss of 15% / 30% dodge.
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it isnt 15/30% btw, it is a multiplicative addition means you're losing less than 15/30% dodge depending what is your current dodge.


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But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?
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not really. my mystic ally in fact tanks better than me depending on circumstances.
it FOR SURE has more hp than i am

and its resist/armor scales from mine.

mind you my earth ally can face tank diablo's lightning breath while i barely could despite having the added ability to dodge/block its breath lol.


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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:44 AM)
Mystic Ally is just to buff my 10% HP and hopefully can distract the other mobs just enough time for me to kill the others. As my CC n CD is high, he himself does about 10-20K Dmg. :-) HP i think also mroe then me, LOL. It only weakness is there's no AR to him. LOL, once go into molten or plague confirm die haha.
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his resistance 100% scales from you. i just dont have the paper as to how much.
you can try going in 0 resist and have ur mystic ally sit on plague, while putting on maybe 1k resist and have it doing the same again smile.gif

the biggest difference is that YOU can get outta plague, he cant. he's stupid lol.

and yes, earth ally is priceless when fighting elites as you can focus 1 down while he distract the rest. or provide additional distraction when you're kiting (so not all of them are together and banging down on your face)


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:48 AM)
Actually how much armor on average is sufficient? I've saw some 10k armor build and I was  shocking.gif
7k armor + 700AR + 40k hp?
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my avg is 10-11k armor and 1-1.1k all resist.
highest armor reached was around 12-13k, resistance 1.6k as posted

however i can assure you that you do not need as much as evident by other monks.
in fact i am gearing up for offensive stats now and am toning down on my defensive gears/separate them for tank/dps sets


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200resist can survive?
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i do my act 1 with 200+ resist and a 2 hander doing crits that are over 100k lol

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 24 2012, 05:52 PM)
it isnt 15/30% btw, it is a multiplicative addition means you're losing less than 15/30% dodge depending what is your current dodge.

yeah i know, i was lazy to elaborate and also assumed most people would already know this by now
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Like this

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346647/+2482

You had at least 50% HP most of the time.
Cow, how did you do it? Watching the video, your HP doesn't drain fast.
What's the trick? You have more AR, armor, LOH, life regen? Or a special combo of skills?
What's your AR, armor, LOH, life regen and skills?

Watching your video, you could cast you skill before the HP drained.
The skill was able to cool down in time.
For me, my HP drained before skills cool down.
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Quaz maybe you can add the video of killing Ghom in the first post.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346647/+2482

You had at least 50% HP most of the time. 
Cow, how did you do it? Watching the video, your HP doesn't drain fast.
What's the trick? You have more AR, armor, LOH, life regen? Or a special combo of skills?
What's your AR, armor, LOH, life regen and skills?

Watching your video, you could cast you skill before the HP drained.
The skill was able to cool down in time.
For me, my HP drained before skills cool down.
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For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming biggrin.gif

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k

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QUOTE(flix @ Jul 24 2012, 11:07 PM)
Quaz maybe you can add the video of killing Ghom  in the first post.
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Noob monk here, what skill setup u guy use to farm at act 2 ? with 14.5k dps /33k hp 780 ar/ 8k def / 0 LOH full buff i cant stand up act 2 elite. My setup skill now
1. deadly reach/keen eye
2. Sweeping wind/ cyclone
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 25 2012, 07:06 AM)
how i wish i am at home now... bid on a amor... 4h left.. arrrhhhh.. T.T
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how i wish i am at home now... bid on a amor... 4h left.. arrrhhhh.. T.T

bid ALL your gold and let proxy bidding do the job for you tongue.gif
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bid ALL your gold and let proxy bidding do the job for you tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2012, 07:36 AM)
install AH 3 on office laptop biggrin.gif
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sweat.gif sweat.gif bcoz of D3 ..kena tuang kerja.. habis laugh.gif


now my monk kelam kabut.. duno what to focus.. this kenot that kenot.. arghh.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 25 2012, 08:33 AM)
haha.. x dak gold la.. laugh.gif
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  bcoz of D3 ..kena tuang kerja.. habis laugh.gif
now my monk kelam kabut.. duno what to focus.. this kenot that kenot.. arghh..  doh.gif
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i got AH 3 installed on my office laptop btw tongue.gif

i lazy focus, buying legendary set pieces now mix matching for the build i want biggrin.gif



anyways just did a farming run earlier on my monk on act 2, 5NV > kulle > belial. 1 hour 15mins or so. not too bad i think. only 2-3 deaths out of own carelessness.

buffed dmg on dps gear (still manage to retain 500+ all resist and about 6k armor, with shield around 600+ and 7k armor, no resistance/armor buff cuz all maximizing dmg XD):
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enchantress got almost 2.6k int and 5.7k dmg btw tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 24 2012, 11:30 PM)
For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming biggrin.gif

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k
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I ran before his shake butt. But the HP still drained dry while I was 10 yard away.
His fart sent me flying into pieces. laugh.gif

I'll try again tonight.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 09:15 AM)
I ran before his shake butt. But the HP still drained dry while I was 10 yard away. 
His fart sent me flying into pieces.  laugh.gif

I'll try again tonight.
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Me2. My best record YTD was to drain it down to 1/4 before choke to death.
Bidding some +2xx dex items and a helm +4%hp with empty socket (will slot a star +15% hp = +19% hp ftw!) hope to boost armor more.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 09:15 AM)
I ran before his shake butt. But the HP still drained dry while I was 10 yard away. 
His fart sent me flying into pieces.  laugh.gif

I'll try again tonight.
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could be his vomit, got a stream of puke "homing" to you btw
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yes his puke is more deadly than the fart.
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somemore trip down memory lane:

what my monk looked like at lvl52 lol
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the only reason to play this shit game
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 25 2012, 09:25 AM)
Me2. My best record YTD was to drain it down to 1/4 before choke to death.
Bidding some +2xx dex items and a helm +4%hp with empty socket (will slot a star +15% hp = +19% hp ftw!) hope to boost armor more.
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I got a Barb, 2 Monks and a Wizard in a co-op game.
The Barb & Wizard could kill Ghom easily.
I was just walk-here-and-there and yet I was killed by the airborne poison. laugh.gif
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Hard to find a decent guide on Inferno budget monk 250k. sad.gif

Oh, and check this out! laugh.gif

user posted image

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 11:08 AM)
I got a Barb, 2 Monks and a Wizard in a co-op game.
The Barb & Wizard could kill Ghom easily.
I was just walk-here-and-there and yet I was killed by the airborne poison. laugh.gif
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another idea, use thunder fist as its the best spirit generator
then use passive skill heal per spirit spend

keep spam mantra of healing that got absorb shield while you also heal life with spirit
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another idea, use thunder fist as its the best spirit generator
then use passive skill heal per spirit spend

keep spam mantra of healing that got absorb shield while you also heal life with spirit
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Already done that. Spirit didn't generate fast enough.
The HP drain is way way faster than spirit generation.
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spirit is never a problem to me. my white globe mostly on 1/2 to full all the time, just that the cooldown too slow
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 25 2012, 10:25 AM)
Hard to find a decent guide on Inferno budget monk 250k. sad.gif

Oh, and check this out! laugh.gif

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Curry, just saw your message in D3.
I was away. Just logon to check some items at AH.

250K? blink.gif
The weapon seems a bit cheaper now.
Weapon like spear.
I got one for 2 million with 184 DEX / 95 VIT / 73% Crit DMG. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 11:03 AM)
Curry, just saw your message in D3.
I was away. Just logon to check some items at AH.

250K?  blink.gif
The weapon seems a bit cheaper now.
Weapon like spear.
I got one for 2 million with 184 DEX / 95 VIT / 73% Crit DMG.  thumbup.gif
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what's the dps?

I got my 700dps sword +2xx dex / +12x VIT / 45% Crit Dmg / Free socket at 400k biggrin.gif
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oo nice stats ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 25 2012, 11:11 AM)
what's the dps?

I got my 700dps sword +2xx dex / +12x VIT / 45% Crit Dmg / Free socket at 400k biggrin.gif
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Yeap, 754.2 DPS with decent 461-796 damage.
Forgot to mention it has 415 LOH too.

The damage is better than many 800DPS weapons.

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Yeap, 754.2 DPS with decent 461-796 damage.
Forgot to mention it has 415 LOH too.

The damage is better than many 800DPS weapons.
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1.2 is slow for me.

i see before from blizzard forum. dual wield spear with 1k dps each. both got attack speed makes up 1.33 something.
damn good stats
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If you want more rare from elites, use the Exploding Palm exploit. Blizzard hotfixed this 4 times and it's still there dry.gif

When you find a 4-blue elite pack, get all down to low health and kill them simultaneously with exploding palm. Each member will drops its own set of rares with 5NV.
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If you want more rare from elites, use the Exploding Palm exploit. Blizzard hotfixed this 4 times and it's still there dry.gif

When you find a 4-blue elite pack, get all down to low health and kill them simultaneously with exploding palm. Each member will drops its own set of rares with 5NV.
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eh still working? wookay, at night i abuse again
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:23 AM)
1.2 is slow for me.

i see before from blizzard forum. dual wield spear with 1k dps each. both got attack speed makes up 1.33 something.
damn good stats
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Poor Monk has limited budget. Therefore 1.2 weapon. laugh.gif

I find the attack speed doesn't affect Monk (as compared to Barb).
With slow weapon, Barb will have a slow swing.
But for monk, it is always 1-2-3 attack and attack speed is still good to kill monsters in A3.
I'm now in Heart of Sin.


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If you want more rare from elites, use the Exploding Palm exploit. Blizzard hotfixed this 4 times and it's still there dry.gif

When you find a 4-blue elite pack, get all down to low health and kill them simultaneously with exploding palm. Each member will drops its own set of rares with 5NV.
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Kill 4-blue elite simultaneously?
It sounds tough. laugh.gif


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i played barb, i don care attack speed for barb coz he got frenzy attack can stack up to75% AS. from 1.20 can become 1.6 something. Still can LoH comfortable.

when i use monk 1.2 daibo. nice damage but whack damn slow. crit and Loh also slow.

Thats why i said it's slow for me.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:36 AM)
i played barb, i don care attack speed for barb coz he got frenzy attack can stack up to75% AS. from 1.20 can become 1.6 something. Still can LoH comfortable.

when i use monk 1.2 daibo. nice damage but whack damn slow. crit and Loh also slow.

Thats why i said it's slow for me.
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Even in Frenzy, you will find the movement is slow with slow weapon.
I didn't use Frenzy for my Barb, especially in Inferno.
I used Bash because I found it can hit many targets and it gave me better LOH return.

I think all two-hand 1.2 without IAS is slow. Barb's two hand weapon is really slow too.
One-hand 1.2 is different.
Monk's 1-2-3 attack, i.e. Deadly Reach, it's like pierce-shield push-kick.
I find the movement speed is still acceptable.
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hmmm, my barb combo for elite is frenzy + berserk.
can see he whack like RO doppelganger.
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yay i got 3 pieces legendaries/set now. 2 piece inna's and 2 piece sage's biggrin.gif

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yay i got 3 pieces legendaries/set now. 2 piece inna's and 2 piece sage's biggrin.gif

waiting for 1 more sage biggrin.gif
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Jelly lor...

Fark me.. I pay like 300 hours no set items ..got like 10 lagendaries which is so .........
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 11:28 AM)
Poor Monk has limited budget. Therefore 1.2 weapon.  laugh.gif

I find the attack speed doesn't affect Monk (as compared to Barb).
With slow weapon, Barb will have a slow swing.
But for monk, it is always 1-2-3 attack and attack speed is still good to kill monsters in A3.
I'm now in Heart of Sin.

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it affects monks more than barb.

barb got WotB for insane dmg/defensive boost. life leeching/return skills are % based that scales, and they got frenzy to compensate on any weapon slow issue, or revenge that just spam activates if you're mobbed.
monk's "1-2-3" is slower as you atk slower, and usually, its the 3rd hit that's crucial for monks. slower swings, lesser 3rd hits coming out smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2012, 12:04 PM)
it affects monks more than barb.

barb got WotB for insane dmg/defensive boost. life leeching/return skills are % based that scales, and they got frenzy to compensate on any weapon slow issue, or revenge that just spam activates if you're mobbed.
monk's "1-2-3" is slower as you atk slower, and usually, its the 3rd hit that's crucial for monks. slower swings, lesser 3rd hits coming out smile.gif
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I used a fist weapon (1.4 without IAS) up to A4 Hell mode. Honestly speaking, I didn't feel much different in terms of attack speed.
Perhaps those with 1.5-1.7 attach speed will have obvious speed difference.

May be it is just me. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 25 2012, 12:02 PM)
Jelly lor...

Fark me.. I pay like 300 hours no set items ..got like 10 lagendaries which is so .........
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i pick cheapskate stats LOL


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2012, 12:11 PM)
I used a fist weapon (1.4 without IAS) up to A4 Hell mode. Honestly speaking, I didn't feel much different in terms of attack speed.
Perhaps those with 1.5-1.7 attach speed will have obvious speed difference.

May be it is just me.  rclxub.gif
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you can try using a 1.0 2hander, then try with a 1.4 1hander wink.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2012, 01:04 PM)
it affects monks more than barb.

barb got WotB for insane dmg/defensive boost. life leeching/return skills are % based that scales, and they got frenzy to compensate on any weapon slow issue, or revenge that just spam activates if you're mobbed.
monk's "1-2-3" is slower as you atk slower, and usually, its the 3rd hit that's crucial for monks. slower swings, lesser 3rd hits coming out smile.gif
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hehehehe +1

to know the speed. stand on descretor and watch your life. see how fast you LoH.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 12:19 PM)
hehehehe +1

to know the speed. stand on descretor and watch your life. see how fast you LoH.
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Fuuuuuu....what if no mobs around you still can stand there ah? Lol..

But seriously..that will be awesome mang..stand on desc and just pow pow..face off
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In act 1-2. i can challenge mob on desc. if got shielding then GG lo.

i got 1200 LoH. healing rate i see on my screen average between 1k+ to 5k+. Depends on how many mob i hit.
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Shoulder armor was the last piece I wanted to upgrade.
I couldn't get the shoulder armor I wanted.
The price of the shoulder armor hiked up to 14million.
Out of my range and out of my way.
I bought something cheaper.

Everything went smooth after I upgraded the last piece of armor.
And I just completed Inferno just now. laugh.gif

Demon Hunter next!

P/S Very nice damage reduction number, 67.67%

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I want to sell these boots.
Chop chop deal at 1M gold.

Who want it?
Took this off from my Monk as I think my next hero, Demon Hunter, will require different boots.


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 03:10 AM)
I want to sell these boots.
Chop chop deal at 1M gold.

Who want it?
Took this off from my Monk as I think my next hero, Demon Hunter, will require different boots.
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can use back unless you want natalyas or high rolled ilevel 63 rares (which are more expensive lol)
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omg.. keep on try swap /change my gear... now.. HP left 28k =_=""
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 07:10 AM)
omg.. keep on try swap /change my gear... now.. HP left 28k =_=""
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ok wut, i won the game with 22k hp lol.


AND f*** YEAH AUCTION WON IM NOW 2 PIECE SAGE 2 PIECE INNA LEGENDARY SETS WOOOOOOOOHOOOOO
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 07:43 AM)
ok wut, i won the game with 22k hp lol.
AND f*** YEAH AUCTION WON IM NOW 2 PIECE SAGE 2 PIECE INNA LEGENDARY SETS WOOOOOOOOHOOOOO
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Woot!! Gratz!! screenshoots mari.. tongue.gif

how about 2 piece of blackthorne ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 02:50 AM)
Shoulder armor was the last piece I wanted to upgrade.
I couldn't get the shoulder armor I wanted.
The price of the shoulder armor hiked up to 14million.
Out of my range and out of my way.
I bought something cheaper.

Everything went smooth after I upgraded the last piece of armor.
And I just completed Inferno just now.  laugh.gif

Demon Hunter next!

P/S Very nice damage reduction number, 67.67%
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Dafug? I was till hanging at Ghom!

Somebody carry you over?
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 26 2012, 09:21 AM)
Dafug? I was till hanging at Ghom!

Somebody carry you over?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2425677/+405
Yes, I got a Barb to help. He brought another Wiz who was an amazing tanker too.


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* lone hermit didn't get any help  unsure.gif
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We can play tonight.
I will use my Barb. It is easy to kill Ghom with a Barb.
But I'll be home quite late tonight, probably around 10:30pm. I have dinner appointment with client tonight.
We will play if you still stay online.
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Wah gearing monk is very cheap ohmy.gif

50k to buy a full set of gears, end up with 14k dps, 700AR and 35k HP
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
Wah gearing monk is very cheap ohmy.gif

50k to buy a full set of gears, end up with 14k dps, 700AR and 35k HP
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Yes, it is way way cheaper to play a monk as compared to Barb.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
Wah gearing monk is very cheap ohmy.gif

50k to buy a full set of gears, end up with 14k dps, 700AR and 35k HP
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but dunno why my 10million gold pickup ends up into 500k left unsure.gif

Oh ya, I got plenty of star gem! last count is 12 of it with a Flawless star Amethyst sweat.gif

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but dunno why my 10million gold pickup ends up into 500k left unsure.gif

Oh ya, I got plenty of star gem! last count is 12 of it with a Flawless star Amethyst sweat.gif
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That's the funny thing. To get starter gears for Inferno Act 1 and 2, cheap until kenot belip.

After that suddenly have to pay 5-20m per upgrade. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 09:09 AM)
Woot!! Gratz!!  screenshoots mari.. tongue.gif

how about 2 piece of blackthorne ? tongue.gif
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only reason to get that set is this bonus:
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Increases Damage Against Elites by 2%


and i cannot go 3 piece, maximum 2 in which i hold very little regards to 100vit lol (evident from me lingering around 20-30k hp at any given time). and blackthorne's amulet is gonna cost a BOMB with 400+ LoH


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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
Wah gearing monk is very cheap ohmy.gif

50k to buy a full set of gears, end up with 14k dps, 700AR and 35k HP
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not just monk, it goes the same for any class. so long you're not maximizing your gear/class, anything is cheap now (eg: not primary stats + heavy vit and/or All resistance, non ilevel 63 with maxed out rolls etc)

like the set inna pieces i went, the belt for example, i went with my OwE resist, not everyone wants it. so i end up getting it for like 2.5mil. you roll dex only, even if the other static prefix/affixes are not even max rolls (can refer bnet for the complete stats list), also easily 5-10mil. and thats on min roll 50-60 dex. anything over 80 dex is easily 10-20mil+

the price difference is retarded lol.

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 26 2012, 09:45 AM)
That's the funny thing. To get starter gears for Inferno Act 1 and 2, cheap until kenot belip.

After that suddenly have to pay 5-20m per upgrade. rclxub.gif
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I find the cheapest gears are the spear, boots and Spirit Stone.
The Spirit Stone is pretty good, only cost me 800K+.
Boots cost me 1M. Spear cost me 2M.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 09:46 AM)
only reason to get that set is this bonus:
and i cannot go 3 piece, maximum 2 in which i hold very little regards to 100vit lol (evident from me lingering around 20-30k hp at any given time). and blackthorne's amulet is gonna cost a BOMB with 400+ LoH
yea.. that amulet is really... =.='' expensive.. ...
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 09:42 AM)
Yes, it is way way cheaper to play a monk as compared to Barb.
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id beg to differ, dex gear/gems are way more expensive for monk because we share some of our gear with DH too

dont believe? check out emerald gems vs rubies. granted, barbs use emeralds on their weapons too for crit, but the rest of it, you get the idea


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but dunno why my 10million gold pickup ends up into 500k left unsure.gif

Oh ya, I got plenty of star gem! last count is 12 of it with a Flawless star Amethyst sweat.gif
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i star topaz my enchantress too brows.gif

she got 2.6k int with like 5.7k dmg now. her forceful push is easily 40k+ that 1 shots some mobs in act 2 icon_rolleyes.gif

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@Quazacolt -

your current set item is :
Inna belt + Inna ?
and
SAGE boots + SAGE ?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 09:46 AM)
not just monk, it goes the same for any class. so long you're not maximizing your gear/class, anything is cheap now (eg: not primary stats + heavy vit and/or All resistance, non ilevel 63 with maxed out rolls etc)

like the set inna pieces i went, the belt for example, i went with my OwE resist, not everyone wants it. so i end up getting it for like 2.5mil. you roll dex only, even if the other static prefix/affixes are not even max rolls (can refer bnet for the complete stats list), also easily 5-10mil. and thats on min roll 50-60 dex. anything over 80 dex is easily 10-20mil+

the price difference is retarded lol.
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I'm telling you man, this is like real life. We're in a farking middle income trap. cry.gif

Want to live in apartment and drive myvi? Cheap cheap terima kasih ah jib kor.

Want to drive BMW and live in 2storey? Make sure you farm the same place same mobs 12 hours a day.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 10:06 AM)
id beg to differ, dex gear/gems are way more expensive for monk because we share some of our gear with DH too

dont believe? check out emerald gems vs rubies. granted, barbs use emeralds on their weapons too for crit, but the rest of it, you get the idea
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I speak from my experience.
I played Barb and I know how much spent on gears.
As for Monk, it is a lot cheaper. And most of the gears can be used on DH.
Most of the Barb's gears are useless for other class.

I spent a lot more on my Barb than the Monk. And my poor Barb has very average attributes and barely survive in A3/A4. My Barb can't solo in A3/A4.
I spent a lot less on my Monk and it was smooth sailing in A3/A4. My Monk is very comfortable with both solo and co-op game (except the farting Ghom).
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@Quazacolt -

your current set item is :
Inna belt  + Inna ?
and
SAGE boots + SAGE ?
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inna glory (pants)
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 26 2012, 10:12 AM)
I'm telling you man, this is like real life. We're in a farking middle income trap. cry.gif

Want to live in apartment and drive myvi? Cheap cheap terima kasih ah jib kor.

Want to drive BMW and live in 2storey? Make sure you farm the same place same mobs 12 hours a day.
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hahahaha jib kor.

well, i just received 2 platinum cards from CIMB yesterday. so... i can PRETEND to be a rich person la.
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I speak from my experience.
I played Barb and I know how much spent on gears.
As for Monk, it is a lot cheaper. And most of the gears can be used on DH.
Most of the Barb's gears are useless for other class.

I spent a lot more on my Barb than the Monk. And my poor Barb has very average attributes and barely survive in A3/A4. My Barb can't solo in A3/A4.
I spent a lot less on my Monk and it was smooth sailing in A3/A4. My Monk is very comfortable with both solo and co-op game (except the farting Ghom).
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you are correct in this regards on your experience.
simple: gear's are devaluing for the lower level gears (anything not ilevel 63, any weapons not over 1k dps etc)

your monk started AFTER your barbarian, hence you are enjoying the benefit of having cheaper gear as opposed to your barbarian.

another thing is your monk is fresh, so you're gearing up with cheap gear while your barb is (assuming) already decently geared, so any upgrades over what you have on your barb currently, is going to easily cost millions.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 10:18 AM)
inna glory (pants)
sage gloves (lol forgot name)


Added on July 26, 2012, 10:19 am

hahahaha jib kor.

well, i just received 2 platinum cards from CIMB yesterday. so... i can PRETEND to be a rich person la.
*further/heavy emphasis on PRETEND


Added on July 26, 2012, 10:26 am

you are correct in this regards on your experience.
simple: gear's are devaluing for the lower level gears (anything not ilevel 63, any weapons not over 1k dps etc)

your monk started AFTER your barbarian, hence you are enjoying the benefit of having cheaper gear as opposed to your barbarian.

another thing is your monk is fresh, so you're gearing up with cheap gear while your barb is (assuming) already decently geared, so any upgrades over what you have on your barb currently, is going to easily cost millions.
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I only salvaged the amulet from my Barb. That amulet cost me 4m.
Others were new gears. Those gears were cheap.
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any one got good fist for sales?

prefer range dps between 800 - 900
stats consider:
- dex > 150 +-
- Vit > 150 +-
- LOH
- Socket

OR

- dex > 150+-
- CD
- Socket

---- can this stats get in the price of 10mil Gold ?? --
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 10:18 AM)
well, i just received 2 platinum cards from CIMB yesterday. so... i can PRETEND to be a rich person la.
*further/heavy emphasis on PRETEND
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You should approach maybank, they got 3 - Mastercard + Visa + Amex
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 10:46 AM)
I only salvaged the amulet from my Barb. That amulet cost me 4m.
Others were new gears. Those gears were cheap.
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you dont seem to get the idea of depreciation.

i will use pc then. the same intel i5 2 years ago compared to today's price.

pricing of my PC (click my signature's site profile smile.gif if you're too lazy, ill just say that i spent 5 digits ringgit on my pc) 5 years ago compared to the items TODAY that has the same, if not BETTER performance.


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You should approach maybank, they got 3 - Mastercard + Visa + Amex
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dun wan, i got enough cards on my hands as it is laugh.gif


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any one got good fist for sales?

prefer range dps between 800 - 900
stats consider:
- dex > 150 +-
- Vit > 150 +-
- LOH
- Socket

OR

- dex >  150+-
- CD
- Socket

---- can this stats get in the price of 10mil Gold ?? --
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ur stats demand a bit high, definitely need to snipe snipe lol. at least it isnt around/over 1k dps, so not too hard for 10mil gold id reckon? (havent been shopping for weapons for a loooong time cuz too poor tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 10:57 AM)
you dont seem to get the idea of depreciation.

i will use pc then. the same intel i5 2 years ago compared to today's price.

pricing of my PC (click my signature's site profile smile.gif if you're too lazy, ill just say that i spent 5 digits ringgit on my pc) 5 years ago compared to the items TODAY that has the same, if not BETTER performance.
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Depreciate?
I think price could be cheaper now.
Yes, I told Curry that it is cheaper to get weapon now.
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Depreciate?
I think price could be cheaper now.
Yes, I told Curry that it is cheaper to get weapon now.
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ya i bought a 850 dps fist for 2k rclxub.gif no loh/crit/slot makes the thing worthless
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 10:54 AM)
any one got good fist for sales?

prefer range dps between 800 - 900
stats consider:
- dex > 150 +-
- Vit > 150 +-
- LOH
- Socket

OR

- dex >  150+-
- CD
- Socket

---- can this stats get in the price of 10mil Gold ?? --
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Do not just look at the DPS.
You need to look at the damage range.
Some 700DPS weapons have better damage range than 800DPS weapons.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 11:03 AM)
Depreciate?
I think price could be cheaper now.
Yes, I told Curry that it is cheaper to get weapon now.
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thats whats happening and thus in your "experience", monk gears are cheaper smile.gif


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Do not just look at the DPS.
You need to look at the damage range.
Some 700DPS weapons have better damage range than 800DPS weapons.
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weapon range is only applicable to skills for the most part (eg: that big bell)
the other skills such as sweeping winds for example, ticks faster as you have more IAS (faster weapon speed)

so at the end of the day, it will average out and hence looking at the dps alone CAN be sufficient.

for an easy comparison/idea, compare using 1 handed daggers vs 2hander pole arms smile.gif (yes i use dual wield and 2hander depending on my mood/situation wink.gif )

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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 10:54 AM)
any one got good fist for sales?

prefer range dps between 800 - 900
stats consider:
- dex > 150 +-
- Vit > 150 +-
- LOH
- Socket

OR

- dex >  150+-
- CD
- Socket

---- can this stats get in the price of 10mil Gold ?? --
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Most likely hood you wont even get near 20 million with stats. GAH is now super crazy, thanks to Bot Farmers.

With socket itself is now 10MIL, LOH up another 5-8mil, with CD up another 5-8mil.

With stats like that and dps range 800+ , im looking at 30mil at least.

Don't understand how these ppl get so much money ...
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 11:04 AM)
Do not just look at the DPS.
You need to look at the damage range.
Some 700DPS weapons have better damage range than 800DPS weapons.
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yupz.. i do look in to that ... my one of my current weapon 7xx dps.. but range is 3xx - 820 .. biggrin.gif

i got hard time to find a replacement for my others fist..

dps 717
range 3xx - 720
2xx dex
2xx vit
2xx LOH
with socket

totally cant find a weapon can replace this... sad.gif


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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 26 2012, 11:12 AM)
Most likely hood you wont even get near 20 million with stats. GAH is now super crazy, thanks to Bot Farmers.

With socket itself is now 10MIL, LOH up another 5-8mil, with CD up another 5-8mil.

With stats like that and dps range 800+ , im looking at 30mil at least.

Don't understand how these ppl get so much money ...
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:13 AM)
yupz.. i do look in to that ... my one of my current weapon 7xx dps.. but range is 3xx - 820 ..  biggrin.gif

i got hard time to find a replacement for my others fist..

dps 717
range 3xx - 720
2xx dex
2xx vit
2xx LOH
with socket

totally cant find a weapon can replace this... sad.gif


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oh mai.. sad.gif sad.gif !!! .... lucky u got your 9xx super ultra awsm fist for 20mil ..  flex.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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ur weapon now is quite good already. i dun think u can find better dps weapon with the all the good stat below cheap.....u will have to lower the Dex and vit to 1XX then maybe can get 800~900 DPS cheaper.

i bought a spear for 200k yesterday

DPS 786
135dex
105vit
280loh
socket
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:13 AM)
yupz.. i do look in to that ... my one of my current weapon 7xx dps.. but range is 3xx - 820 ..  biggrin.gif

i got hard time to find a replacement for my others fist..

dps 717
range 3xx - 720
2xx dex
2xx vit
2xx LOH
with socket

totally cant find a weapon can replace this... sad.gif


Added on July 26, 2012, 11:15 am

oh mai.. sad.gif sad.gif !!! .... lucky u got your 9xx super ultra awsm fist for 20mil ..  flex.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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It could be very expensive to have 200+ DEX and VIT.
Try looking for 200+ DEX with lower VIT. And look for life% in other gears.

Besides, try look for weapon without socket.
Some weapon with no socket has decent stats too, i.e. with LOH and Crit DMG
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So its back to same old story again -> How much is enough? One can clear Inferno with as low as 22k hp (yes I'm referring to you Quazacolt) but with 50k hp, would it be better?

Dex 2k all in enough -> armor/damage?
VIT 1.5k enough -> hp 50k?

dilemma dilemma.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 26 2012, 11:23 AM)
So its back to same old story again -> How much is enough? One can clear Inferno with as low as 22k hp (yes I'm referring to you Quazacolt) but with 50k hp, would it be better?

Dex 2k all in enough -> armor/damage?
VIT 1.5k enough -> hp 50k?

dilemma dilemma.
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i am going through halfway inferno act 4 solo, with

20k DPS duel weilding (unbuff)
5k armor
30k life
850 Loh
880 AR

is hard but i think can clear inferno.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 26 2012, 11:23 AM)
So its back to same old story again -> How much is enough? One can clear Inferno with as low as 22k hp (yes I'm referring to you Quazacolt) but with 50k hp, would it be better?

Dex 2k all in enough -> armor/damage?
VIT 1.5k enough -> hp 50k?

dilemma dilemma.
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the KEY here, is effective hp. you can have 100k hp, but if you have no resist/armor, you WILL get 1 shotted.
like wise having high armor/AR, 22k hp can still take a LOT of hits.

OBVIOUSLY, if you have the choice of having same AR/Armor and between 20k and 50k hp, the 50k wins. however you also have to realize stats arent free, to get x you need to sacrifice y, unless you have a shit ton of money to dump on AH for better gear that has both x and y smile.gif
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QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:13 AM)
oh mai.. sad.gif sad.gif !!! .... lucky u got your 9xx super ultra awsm fist for 20mil ..  flex.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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+ I already finish diablo, so now just farming act 3 to sell in RMAH. But sales abit slow, last time cans ell 2-5 items in a day, now....sold 3 items in 2 days.

Damn sien.

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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:28 AM)
i am going through halfway inferno act 4 solo, with

20k DPS duel weilding (unbuff)
5k armor
30k life
850 Loh
880 AR

is hard but i think can clear inferno.
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can, may require shield though if it gets too tough smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 11:29 AM)
can, may require shield though if it gets too tough smile.gif
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i think having armor is better than res. hp is useless even you have 50k coz it will go down fast without armor

my barb 200 res but armor buff 15k. can survive arcane better than my monk.

In act 1, my monk walk over the fire floor trap thingie. i see damage 1200 something. barb walk over like less than 1k. Armor win.

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IMHO, i feel that LoH is costly and much overrated

if you kill fast enough i doubt you would need it

if you cant kill fast enough just kite around till your skills cooldown and there you go again but then again it still depends on the elites affixes and the skills you are using
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 11:56 AM)
IMHO, i feel that LoH is costly and much overrated

if you kill fast enough i doubt you would need it

if you cant kill fast enough just kite around till your skills cooldown and there you go again but then again it still depends on the elites affixes and the skills you are using
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 11:56 AM)
IMHO, i feel that LoH is costly and much overrated

if you kill fast enough i doubt you would need it

if you cant kill fast enough just kite around till your skills cooldown and there you go again but then again it still depends on the elites affixes and the skills you are using
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A LoH of 1.5k allow you to stand in Disserator. 1k LoH allows you to bath in plaque
Molton leh?
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as i said earlier you dont have to bath in those if you kill fast enough

well it all depends on your personal preference.

used to play with LoH but now i dont and by the time my serenity over should be able to kill one of the elites even if its act 3 and kite a lil for the others thereafter

if its shielding then different case gotta kite more tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
as i said earlier you dont have to bath in those if you kill fast enough

well it all depends on your personal preference.

used to play with LoH but now i dont and by the time my serenity over should be able to kill one of the elites even if its act 3 and kite a lil for the others thereafter

if its shielding then different case gotta kite more tongue.gif
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of course extra health cannot la haha

around 50k dps buffed with blazing wrath

atm farming vault of assasin by swapping MF gears is much more efficient and effective for me

at the same time you get maybe 50k per run which takes about 15-20 mins including other places such as black canyon mines etc

as for act 3 there are so many mobs and they are higher hp so it might take longer to finish and the chances of you dying are higher as well.

conclusion for me act vault of assasin for the win

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lol,

with LoH - my monk keep saying "my wound are closing"
without Loh - my monk keep saying "i will return"

depends on play style actually.

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 12:16 PM)
of course extra health cannot la haha

around 50k dps buffed with blazing wrath
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yup, very much depends on elite's attribute.

50k DPS, i wonder how many monk can get into this type of DPS. i been stuck at 20k DPS unbuff for so long....


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lol,

with LoH - my monk keep saying "my wound are closing"
without Loh - my monk keep saying "i will return"

depends on play style actually.
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He said 50k buffed with blazing wrath which means around 40k++ unbuff.. Sorry typo.. doh.gif

U try duel wield with critical.. Sure can reach.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 26 2012, 11:37 AM)
i think having armor is better than res. hp is useless even you have 50k coz it will go down fast without armor

my barb 200 res but armor buff 15k. can survive arcane  better than my monk.

In act 1, my monk walk over the fire floor trap thingie. i see damage 1200 something. barb walk over like less than 1k. Armor win.
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ALeUNe would beg to differ laugh.gif

jokes aside, no, armor and res work hand in hand. (they are multiplicative damage reduction) hence the 10:1 ratio. armor is not better than res, nor res is better than armor. if you can get it just get it, the 10:1 ratio isnt required, just a guideline to get better "mileage" out of your gearing process.
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jul 26 2012, 12:21 PM)
He said 50k buffed with blazing wrath which means around 25k unbuff..
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ok ok, i tot since when blazing wrath can buff 50% DPS...lol drool.gif

but to get to 40k++ dps also not an easy task....


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i went for full crit damage thats y i forego LoH

FYI my weapons dps are kinda low as well

1 weapon 722dps +100 dex 77% crit damage + socket

2 weapon 711 dps +100 dex +100 vit 88% crit damage + socket
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 12:23 PM)
i went for full crit damage thats y i forego LoH

FYI my weapons dps are kinda low as well

1 weapon 722dps +100 dex 77% crit damage + socket

2 weapon 711 dps +100 dex +100 vit 88% crit damage + socket
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how much ur critical chances? and total critical damage?

i also thinking try changing to critical build.
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crit chance 38% crit damage if not mistaken 390 cant remember at work now haha

upgrading my socketed gems atm
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 12:28 PM)
crit chance 38% crit damage if not mistaken 390 cant remember at work now haha

upgrading my socketed gems  atm
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I think you can do better with 9xx dps + 11% AS + socket weapon (saw one costing 17m) compare to ur 772dps + 70% cridmg + socket.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 12:28 PM)
crit chance 38% crit damage if not mistaken 390 cant remember at work now haha

upgrading my socketed gems  atm
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nice numbers....but i doubt i have all the gold to get to these number.....

so i properly keep my cheap Loh build.....
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IF want duel wield, armor parts will be more expensive cause lack of 1k armor and 80+ AR on shield..

IF want shield, weapon will be more expensive cause need LOH/time to kill mob..

Haiz.. In the end.. I already got bored with this game.. Zzzz..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 26 2012, 12:00 PM)
A LoH of 1.5k allow you to stand in Disserator. 1k LoH allows you to bath in plaque
Molton leh?
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I used to have 1.5k LoH and 19k Health Globe Bonus

Basically what I do is stand in the elite pack and whack away.
Plague or descerator all no problem. if got arcane sentry/ice then just run away or activate serenity.

If things are getting hot and heavy then activate serenity and pick-up health globe.
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me also 0% LoH lolol
just crit chs and some crit dmg~

just bought new pants and shoulder. broke now T_T
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Bought this sword wan try try critical without LOH.. tongue.gif

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LOL.. Need run abit wait breath of heaven/potion to cooldown when fighting hard elites..

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if i wanna upgrade i think i need a dps calculator or else i wouldnt know how much is the difference before buying haha
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 12:21 PM)
ALeUNe would beg to differ laugh.gif

jokes aside, no, armor and res work hand in hand. (they are multiplicative damage reduction) hence the 10:1 ratio. armor is not better than res, nor res is better than armor. if you can get it just get it, the 10:1 ratio isnt required, just a guideline to get better "mileage" out of your gearing process.
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Yes, I would beg to differ because it doesn't tell the whole story in actual game play.
Barb may take lesser damage in this case but he has no healing skills. Gang-banged by 4 elites with waller/arcane/fire/poison.
Monk may have taken more damage but he can be healed in no time. Monk can teleport and skip arcane/fire/poison. Generally better chance to survive.

For Barb, A1 is easy. A2 is getting tougher (most can't dual wield). A3/A4 is pain in the ass.
Of course, for average gamer like me with 20K+ DPS/10K Armor/1200AR/46K HP.
You can verify this with other Barbs in Barb thread.

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 26 2012, 01:36 PM)
if i wanna upgrade i think i need a dps calculator or else i wouldnt know how much is the difference before buying haha
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got the link for the dps calculator ar?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 01:40 PM)
Yes, I would beg to differ because it doesn't tell the whole story in actual game play.
Barb may take lesser damage in this case but he has no healing skills. Gang-banged by 4 elites with waller/arcane/fire/poison.
Monk may have taken more damage but he can be healed in no time. Monk can teleport and skip arcane/fire/poison.

For Barb, A1 is easy. A2 is getting tougher (most can't dual wield). A3/A4 is pain in the ass.
Of course, for average gamer like me with 20K+ DPS/1000K Armor/1200AR/46K HP.
You can verify this with other Barbs in Barb thread.
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the thing is, barb DOES HAVE healing skills. albeit not in the form of a straight and direct heal (but having long cooldown) BoH or runed serenity (if you talk about transcendence passive and/or MoH spamming, its no different than barb's)

and no monk cant teleport towards anywhere, they need to be on a target and if say the guy is molten or plague, it has NO DIFFERENCE as you're still standing in it (worse if molten lol)

TBH, you can see the same trend in the monk thread too (earlier pages, or v1) where so many people having similar stats and cant finish act 3/4. YOUR MONK got carried (again, assumption, feel free to correct me if it isn't so). so you CANNOT directly compare to your exp as your barb, or other monk in this thread or barb in the barbarian thread.


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got the link for the dps calculator ar?
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i updated first page with all the resources one may need as monk.

any more, feel free to pm me to add biggrin.gif

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oh right thanks for the link biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 01:46 PM)
the thing is, barb DOES HAVE healing skills. albeit not in the form of a straight and direct heal (but having long cooldown) BoH or runed serenity (if you talk about transcendence passive and/or MoH spamming, its no different than barb's)

and no monk cant teleport towards anywhere, they need to be on a target and if say the guy is molten or plague, it has NO DIFFERENCE as you're still standing in it (worse if molten lol)

TBH, you can see the same trend in the monk thread too (earlier pages, or v1) where so many people having similar stats and cant finish act 3/4. YOUR MONK got carried (again, assumption, feel free to correct me if it isn't so). so you CANNOT directly compare to your exp as your barb, or other monk in this thread or barb in the barbarian thread.
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I didn't say Monk can teleport anywhere.
Why you need to teleport anywhere? You are supposed to kill the monsters.
You need a target to teleport to escape from deadly arcane/poison/fire. There's no cooldown.
Barb can leap but it needs cooling down. Well, what next is a corpse.

My Monk was carried when fighting Ghom.
I am comfortable in A3/A4 in solo.
With the similar stats, Barb will have pain-in-the-ass in A3/A4. My Barb can't even solo.
Very obvious difference.
Besides, Barb's gears are darn expensive too.

P/S Barb got healed when he's surrounded by monsters.
Barb is toufu when he has no monsters to reflect damage to gain life while there is burning fire/poison/arcane under his feet.


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 01:40 PM)
Yes, I would beg to differ because it doesn't tell the whole story in actual game play.
Barb may take lesser damage in this case but he has no healing skills. Gang-banged by 4 elites with waller/arcane/fire/poison.
Monk may have taken more damage but he can be healed in no time. Monk can teleport and skip arcane/fire/poison. Generally better chance to survive.

For Barb, A1 is easy. A2 is getting tougher (most can't dual wield). A3/A4 is pain in the ass.
Of course, for average gamer like me with 20K+ DPS/1000K Armor/1200AR/46K HP.
You can verify this with other Barbs in Barb thread.
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Wow, 1000K armor. Should be able to faceroll D3 with a million armor. I'm pretty sure the damage reduction will even heal you back with that amount flex.gif

Btw, I thought Barb have that skill that returns 8% life? And they use LoH / Lifesteal too. Their lifesteal is better because of their mighty belt. Plus monk usually only use Blazing Wrath for heal, which heals a static 7k hp every 15 sec. Doubt we're healing better than barb with 8% from skill and up to 9% from lifesteal.

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