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 °°LYN 2012 Honda Civic Hybrid Official Thread V1°°, Passion For Life In A Hybrid Way

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lingyg
post Feb 7 2014, 09:29 PM

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Geng Man!!! Now everyone here should feel rich since you're driving a RM177k car....which many won't be able to afford.
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post Feb 8 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 7 2014, 09:29 PM)
Geng Man!!! Now everyone here should feel rich since you're driving a RM177k car....which many won't be able to afford.
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But the question now is when we start renew our car insurance, what value should we be insuring???
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post Feb 8 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(shonglaey @ Feb 8 2014, 09:07 AM)
But the question now is when we start renew our car insurance, what value should we be insuring???
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i'm not care about the insured price of this car... i more care how much i can sell this car... LOL cool2.gif
i dont plan to sell but just want to know whistling.gif
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post Feb 8 2014, 04:22 PM

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I suspect the resale value of HCH will be similar to Korean cars. Having said this, if petrol price goes up and up to above RM3.50 per litre, many people will consider Hybrid and therefore increased demand for hybrid cars will push resale value up.

The buyers may consider either P1/2's hybrid but there will be buyers who prefer Honda/Toyota hybrids. Since so far, most CKD hybrids are small, those looking for sedan size will consider Prius/Civic Hybrid.

Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. But wishing for the petrol increase would be unfair to those who ain't driving a car that is fuel efficient yet.
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post Feb 9 2014, 09:10 AM

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Is there anyone with HCH but without tinted glass? How good is the Heat Absorbing Glass on HCH if you put your arms under the sunlight under the window for 20seconds. Can feel heat from the sun?
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 8 2014, 04:22 PM)
I suspect the resale value of HCH will be similar to Korean cars. Having said this, if petrol price goes up and up to above RM3.50 per litre, many people will consider Hybrid and therefore increased demand for hybrid cars will push resale value up.

The buyers may consider either P1/2's hybrid but there will be buyers who prefer Honda/Toyota hybrids. Since so far, most CKD hybrids are small, those looking for sedan size will consider Prius/Civic Hybrid.

Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. But wishing for the petrol increase would be unfair to those who ain't driving a car that is fuel efficient yet.
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if petrol goes up till 3.50/ltr, buying hybrid is one of the consideration but other things will hike up too which make lower/middle income will prioritize their need.
maybe foods or goods which are more important rather than chg a car to hybrid and use bike or lrt as an alternative.
or perhaps chg the govt 1st ? whistling.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 9 2014, 09:10 AM)
Is there anyone with HCH but without tinted glass? How good is the Heat Absorbing Glass on HCH if you put your arms under the sunlight under the window for 20seconds. Can feel heat from the sun?
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i tried for one week... langsung cannot tahan...
straight applied HO tint and voila rclxms.gif
lingyg
post Feb 9 2014, 10:05 PM

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Thanks for sharing the info about the Heat Absorbing Glass being not good enough...in Malaysia.
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post Feb 10 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 9 2014, 10:05 PM)
Thanks for sharing the info about the Heat Absorbing Glass being not good enough...in Malaysia.
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it is definitely not enough... i feel the skin pain when driving under the hot sun...
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 2 2014, 06:16 PM)
Anyone done any soundproofing to reduce tyre noise? I sat at the back seats and I could hear the tyre noise is noisier at the back compared to the front.
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You may search for STP Mastic which can help your car to reduce road noise up to 40% smile.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 6 2014, 08:46 PM)
Let's wait for anyone using 5w40 to comment their FC. I'm using 0w20 in my first 10k service.
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I js had my car service fir 10k km.. change 5w40.. red colour package after conviced by the person.. so far i din notice any difference in terms of power.. bt thr fc drop quite significant.. last time i used to hav 17 to 18 kml for city drive.. nw i cn only get abt 15 to 16 kml wif control of my right foot..

Considering to change to the 0w20 for my nx service.. my purpose to buy hybrid is to save petrol ma.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 12 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(jeffpwhoong @ Feb 11 2014, 11:43 AM)
I js had my car service fir 10k km.. change 5w40.. red colour package after conviced by the person.. so far i din notice any difference in terms of power.. bt thr fc drop quite significant.. last time i used to hav 17 to 18 kml for city drive.. nw i cn only get abt 15 to 16 kml wif control of my right foot..

Considering to change to the 0w20 for my nx service.. my purpose to buy hybrid is to save petrol ma.. tongue.gif
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i use red one 5w40, honestly no big diff. but in the long run your engine will be well in shappe.. you get what you pay for thats all..
and ps took my car from kl to melaka.. long distance the cvt groan is damn annoying.. but if u gently accelarate to speeds of 120-140 and generally maintain it will be quite a smooth ride.. but then again i floored it most of the time and can feel the tiny 1.5 engine struggling to keep up with my driving style.
overall a good long distance ride if you dont excessively speed. otherwise...
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post Feb 12 2014, 02:52 PM

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it doesnt have to do much with what lubrication your engine is fitted with. the most important factor in acquiring amazing numbers in terms of fc is still how well you control your right foot. i can get 21km/l no prob if i keep the speedo green even with 5w40. yes if you use the 0w20 getting those 20-21 figures are easier but your engine is not at its optimum performance and it wont be good to acc hard while using low vososity oils such as 0w20 as the wear and tear are greater. im an engineer and these are just my two cents. go for the premium oil and you will have a healthier engine for a longer duration. smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(regnox @ Feb 12 2014, 02:47 PM)
i use red one 5w40, honestly no big diff. but in the long run your engine will be well in shappe.. you get what you pay for thats all..
and ps took my car from kl to melaka.. long distance the cvt groan is damn annoying.. but if u gently accelarate to speeds of 120-140 and generally maintain it will be quite a smooth ride.. but then again i floored it most of the time and can feel the tiny 1.5 engine struggling to keep up with my driving style.
overall a good long distance ride if you dont excessively speed. otherwise...
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Ya, i cn hear the roar too..
Btw, do u feel jerky (feels like the car shift the gear ratio up n down for few times) when u hav abt 1/4 o half throttle?
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post Feb 12 2014, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(jeffpwhoong @ Feb 12 2014, 03:52 PM)
Ya, i cn hear the roar too..
Btw, do u feel jerky (feels like the car shift the gear ratio up n down for few times) when u hav abt 1/4 o half throttle?
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of course, thats due to the fact that we have an integrated system between the engine and the battery powered part of it. so having a cvt in most hybrids isnt just due to the fact that it increases fuel efficienct by having the possibility to maintain at any or optimum revs. infinite gear ratio. a cvt is able to most effectively transmit these two types of output and combine them.
the jerky feelin you feel is felt because the computer is trying to dictate which power to optimize at that particular time hence the jerk.
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-from the instant you release the gas pedal computer switches to charging hence (jerk)
-from low speed acc.. (jerk)
-the amount of brake applied (jerk)
because its a honda. we dont get the luxury of more premium hybrids such as the most common a6hybrid that fully isolates and drown out this jerky effect as if it is a normal petrol vehicle.

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post Feb 12 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(regnox @ Feb 12 2014, 06:55 PM)
of course, thats due to the fact that we have an integrated system between the engine and the battery powered part of it.  so having a cvt in most hybrids isnt just due to the fact that it increases fuel efficienct by having the possibility to maintain at any or optimum revs. infinite gear ratio. a cvt is able to most effectively transmit these two types of output and combine them.
the jerky feelin you feel is felt because the computer is trying to dictate which power to optimize at that particular time hence the jerk.
eg.
-from the instant you release the gas pedal computer switches to charging hence (jerk)
-from low speed acc.. (jerk)
-the amount of brake applied (jerk)
because its a honda. we dont get the luxury of more premium hybrids such as the most common a6hybrid that fully isolates and drown out this jerky effect as if it is a normal petrol vehicle.
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I went to test drive the Toyota Prius (non-C) and I have to admit its acceleration and braking was very smooth like normal car (with smooth CVT). I love its futuristic simple gear knob. No jerks of any kind at all no matter how I drove just as I would drive HCH. Having said that, I am surprised to find Prius' NVH is not as good as HCH on the same roads. In addition I prefer HCH's dashboard and displays eventhough Prius' dashboard is also very good and functional. The original factory tint for Prius is not good at all because my arm was feeling the heat from the sun. I would have preferred if Toyota allows for non-factory installed tint so that I can tint it outside. [[Yes, I know I can take the Prius outside to have its tint removed and reinstalled...but with extra cost.]]

Overall, I am happy with my HCH. Fun to drive and speed around Penang.
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post Feb 13 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(regnox @ Feb 12 2014, 06:55 PM)
of course, thats due to the fact that we have an integrated system between the engine and the battery powered part of it.  so having a cvt in most hybrids isnt just due to the fact that it increases fuel efficienct by having the possibility to maintain at any or optimum revs. infinite gear ratio. a cvt is able to most effectively transmit these two types of output and combine them.
the jerky feelin you feel is felt because the computer is trying to dictate which power to optimize at that particular time hence the jerk.
eg.
-from the instant you release the gas pedal computer switches to charging hence (jerk)
-from low speed acc.. (jerk)
-the amount of brake applied (jerk)
because its a honda. we dont get the luxury of more premium hybrids such as the most common a6hybrid that fully isolates and drown out this jerky effect as if it is a normal petrol vehicle.
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I c.. bro u r really knowlegable.. appreciate ur sharing..
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post Feb 13 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(lingyg @ Feb 12 2014, 11:56 PM)
I went to test drive the Toyota Prius (non-C) and I have to admit its acceleration and braking was very smooth like normal car (with smooth CVT). I love its futuristic simple gear knob. No jerks of any kind at all no matter how I drove just as I would drive HCH. Having said that, I am surprised to find Prius' NVH is not as good as HCH on the same roads. In addition I prefer HCH's dashboard and displays eventhough Prius' dashboard is also very good and functional. The original factory tint for Prius is not good at all because my arm was feeling the heat from the sun. I would have preferred if Toyota allows for non-factory installed tint so that I can tint it outside. [[Yes, I know I can take the Prius outside to have its tint removed and reinstalled...but with extra cost.]]

Overall, I am happy with my HCH. Fun to drive and speed around Penang.
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I drove my fren prius b4.. it is actually quite nice.. especially the head up display.. feel like vy high tech.. hvw.. i notice accelerate from electric to engine start, there is no jerk bt wif noise like turning the key to start a vios.. beside the wind noise proof is bad..

In the end i choose HCH due to its stability at high speed, its moderate pick up, n its price tag of course.. even prius save more fuel, bt the rm20k diff may nid a longer time to recover..

So far my disatisfaction on HCH is only the braking force.. nt even s strong s my vios G.. tongue.gif
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What happen to the civic thread??
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post Feb 14 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(regnox @ Feb 12 2014, 02:52 PM)
it doesnt have to do much with what lubrication your engine is fitted with. the most important factor in acquiring amazing numbers in terms of fc is still how well you control your right foot. i can get 21km/l no prob if i keep the speedo green even with 5w40. yes if you use the 0w20 getting those 20-21 figures are easier but your engine is not at its optimum performance and it wont be good to acc hard while using low vososity oils such as 0w20 as the wear and tear are greater. im an engineer and these are just my two cents. go for the premium oil and you will have a healthier engine for a longer duration. smile.gif
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i noticed you are actually recommended 5w40... biggrin.gif

i found 5w40 really works like charm for my myvi with acceptable FC... however, 5w40 can work well with the CVT or not then i need to test it out first... 5w40 cost a lot more compare to the 0w20...

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