weird... mana semua orang pergi? dares / Ixora / v12k / mieza / r3apers / GP mad man ???
TT somewhere silently?
Added on July 11, 2012, 10:05 pm
QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 11 2012, 10:03 PM)
Yup, Bro, the choice & decision is OURS!!
Yr "ps" is also true. Buying a car is definitely NOT an investment! But is definitely a LOSS!!
However if need 2buy, best policy is to get the Top of the Range of the model we hv chosen. Saves a lot if heartaches/regrets later on...on looking back!
This post has been edited by gogoman86: Jul 11 2012, 10:05 PM
ya, agree with every reason is good to go for executive but i canot go back anymore..so for any new buyer, have to consider to get a better category if the difference is not so big
Yup, Bro... Once decision oledi made, NEVER look back!! One has good reasons for making that decision. True? Be happy & enjoy yr ride!!
I rather doubt it'll be that serious until a hole on the wheel well la.. At best, your tyres sidewall on the inside have a funny shape. My "other" car which needs a lot of lock definitely hits the inside of the wheel wells when running on the street spec wheels, but so far, it's only a black rubber tyre mark there, been like 5 years. Running on parking speeds will so keng make a hole there? Usually it's the rear that will sagat, unless suddenly you have 2 100+kg driver and passenger la.. Front, not sure, can only get the car next week instead Can't verify with you how "flush" can we go on the wheels, can flush means no sagat issue what..
BTW, anyone intending to book a new Saga, better make your decision quick. Heard there's going to be some price hike of around RM2k, some accessories will be added though. Can't verify this news, just a rumour I heard.
Did I mentioned its on my Iswaga? It 1st grinds a hole at the plastic wheel arch cover, then it grind off the bitumen spray until can see shinny besi. Ever since I hooked up the spacers, later downgraded 14", those metal exposed places has been left rusted. I used to stay in Taman Connaught, I do UTURN at Len Sen everyday, atleast twice.
QUOTE(badjer @ Jul 11 2012, 08:19 PM)
hope hot sifu reply me
I may be sifu, but not as hawt as you think. Pre-tensioner is a locking mechanism to prevent your seat belt to release you forward when emergency brake. Which sometimes when you get up the car try to pull your seatbelt but it stuck, you'll have to release a little and pull again. To further explain, your seatbelt got tension spring that will roll it back to the sleeve. The roller came with gear end, the end hooked up with a roly-poly trigger. When you hit the brake, the roly-poly will drop due to inertia, and your roller got jammed and to prevent you leaning forward. Once you release brake, either the car is stationary or continue moving forward then the roly-poly will automatically move back up so your roller is free to roll again, and your seat belt able to pull again.
By the way, roly-poly means this 1
The above explained pre-tensioner in layman term for those who wanted to know more. So now you know it has nothing to do with the LED on your dashboard. As seniors over here answered, only haier spec BLM/FX/FLX got the LED indicator, the rest ilek.
More info about how pre-tensioner works with other safety feature in motor vehicle(which GaGa doesn't have, may be Dugong has it for the pricy reason)
QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Jul 11 2012, 09:01 PM)
i have some silly question, i always use the car steering lock (pusing the steering to left) to lock the steering..will it affect the alignment because the wheel is not moving while the steering move..haha
Pulling the steering wheel left/right without starting engine has very minimal affect to your wheel alignment, more effect to your power steering pump/arm. Your steering uses hydraulic pump to pump hydraulic fluid to amplify the turning force from your steering to the wheel. Without engine start, by forcing the steering wheel is pumping the hydraulic fluid in a close cylinder. HOWEVER, and theoretically car manufacturer by right will build the cylinder to withhold the pressure up to certain amount(unknown), therefore slightly move the steering wheel left/right not more than 1/2 round should be ok.... KOT
Not sure how to describe, it just feel not smooth... HAHA... normally jerking very strong one but this is just like the engine shaking during that time
Did I mentioned its on my Iswaga? It 1st grinds a hole at the plastic wheel arch cover, then it grind off the bitumen spray until can see shinny besi. Ever since I hooked up the spacers, later downgraded 14", those metal exposed places has been left rusted. I used to stay in Taman Connaught, I do UTURN at Len Sen everyday, atleast twice. I may be sifu, but not as hawt as you think. Pre-tensioner is a locking mechanism to prevent your seat belt to release you forward when emergency brake. Which sometimes when you get up the car try to pull your seatbelt but it stuck, you'll have to release a little and pull again. To further explain, your seatbelt got tension spring that will roll it back to the sleeve. The roller came with gear end, the end hooked up with a roly-poly trigger. When you hit the brake, the roly-poly will drop due to inertia, and your roller got jammed and to prevent you leaning forward. Once you release brake, either the car is stationary or continue moving forward then the roly-poly will automatically move back up so your roller is free to roll again, and your seat belt able to pull again.
By the way, roly-poly means this 1
The above explained pre-tensioner in layman term for those who wanted to know more. So now you know it has nothing to do with the LED on your dashboard. As seniors over here answered, only haier spec BLM/FX/FLX got the LED indicator, the rest ilek.
More info about how pre-tensioner works with other safety feature in motor vehicle(which GaGa doesn't have, may be Dugong has it for the pricy reason)
Pulling the steering wheel left/right without starting engine has very minimal affect to your wheel alignment, more effect to your power steering pump/arm. Your steering uses hydraulic pump to pump hydraulic fluid to amplify the turning force from your steering to the wheel. Without engine start, by forcing the steering wheel is pumping the hydraulic fluid in a close cylinder. HOWEVER, and theoretically car manufacturer by right will build the cylinder to withhold the pressure up to certain amount(unknown), therefore slightly move the steering wheel left/right not more than 1/2 round should be ok.... KOT
thanks for the great explanation and no wonder heard some fluid sound when i turn the steering..sometimes no but sometimes worst...
Pre-tensioner is a locking mechanism to prevent your seat belt to release you forward when emergency brake.
Which sometimes when you get up the car try to pull your seatbelt but it stuck, you'll have to release a little and pull again. To further explain, your seatbelt got tension spring that will roll it back to the sleeve. The roller came with gear end, the end hooked up with a roly-poly trigger. When you hit the brake, the roly-poly will drop due to inertia, and your roller got jammed and to prevent you leaning forward. Once you release brake, either the car is stationary or continue moving forward then the roly-poly will automatically move back up so your roller is free to roll again, and your seat belt able to pull again.
The above explained pre-tensioner in layman term for those who wanted to know more. So now you know it has nothing to do with the LED on your dashboard. As seniors over here answered, only haier spec BLM/FX/FLX got the LED indicator, the rest ilek.
More info about how pre-tensioner works with other safety feature in motor vehicle(which GaGa doesn't have, may be Dugong has it for the pricy reason)
Hi Bro... Feel the para that me hv coloured blue is for std seatbelts ie how it locks to hold a person in his seat...IINM.
Secondly me agree with "it has nothing to do with the LED on your dashboard" ...ie That indicator light is juz 2tell driver he's not buckled up yet!
Finally, feel the Red part is NOT true....FL/FLX Exec do hv pre-tensioner for front seat passengers IINM.
ps. Juz my fantastic hallucination...?
This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 11 2012, 10:46 PM
Badjer : I'm driving FLX standard and yes the seatbelt indicator isn't available in our cars. This small2 things sometimes made me regret for not choosing executive
So sad about this... But funny... Proton care reply the msg.. i show u
Dear Sir,
Thank You for your inquiry. Please be informed that the seat belt indicator lamp should be functioning when your start the engine and not fastening your seat belt. If it does not function, then we advise you to refer to PROTON nearest authorised service centre.
For the listing, kindly visit our website www.proton-edar.com.my for reference.
Thank You for your kind cooperation and support towards our product and services.
Best regards,
PROTON i.care
PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD. Centre of Excellence Complex KM33.8 Westbound Shah Alam Expressway 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Did I mentioned its on my Iswaga? It 1st grinds a hole at the plastic wheel arch cover, then it grind off the bitumen spray until can see shinny besi. Ever since I hooked up the spacers, later downgraded 14", those metal exposed places has been left rusted. I used to stay in Taman Connaught, I do UTURN at Len Sen everyday, atleast twice. I may be sifu, but not as hawt as you think. Pre-tensioner is a locking mechanism to prevent your seat belt to release you forward when emergency brake. Which sometimes when you get up the car try to pull your seatbelt but it stuck, you'll have to release a little and pull again. To further explain, your seatbelt got tension spring that will roll it back to the sleeve. The roller came with gear end, the end hooked up with a roly-poly trigger. When you hit the brake, the roly-poly will drop due to inertia, and your roller got jammed and to prevent you leaning forward. Once you release brake, either the car is stationary or continue moving forward then the roly-poly will automatically move back up so your roller is free to roll again, and your seat belt able to pull again.
By the way, roly-poly means this 1
The above explained pre-tensioner in layman term for those who wanted to know more. So now you know it has nothing to do with the LED on your dashboard. As seniors over here answered, only haier spec BLM/FX/FLX got the LED indicator, the rest ilek.
More info about how pre-tensioner works with other safety feature in motor vehicle(which GaGa doesn't have, may be Dugong has it for the pricy reason)
Pulling the steering wheel left/right without starting engine has very minimal affect to your wheel alignment, more effect to your power steering pump/arm. Your steering uses hydraulic pump to pump hydraulic fluid to amplify the turning force from your steering to the wheel. Without engine start, by forcing the steering wheel is pumping the hydraulic fluid in a close cylinder. HOWEVER, and theoretically car manufacturer by right will build the cylinder to withhold the pressure up to certain amount(unknown), therefore slightly move the steering wheel left/right not more than 1/2 round should be ok.... KOT
That mean only EX version will get Seatbelt indicator light?
This post has been edited by badjer: Jul 11 2012, 10:38 PM
So sad about this... But funny... Proton care reply the msg.. i show u
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Dear Sir,
Thank You for your inquiry. Please be informed that the seat belt indicator lamp should be functioning when your start the engine and not fastening your seat belt. If it does not function, then we advise you to refer to PROTON nearest authorised service centre.
For the listing, kindly visit our website www.proton-edar.com.my for reference.
Thank You for your kind cooperation and support towards our product and services.
Best regards,
PROTON i.care
PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD. Centre of Excellence Complex KM33.8 Westbound Shah Alam Expressway 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Hi Bro... Suggest yu print out hard copy of reply...take yr FLX to SC AND ask them 2make it work for yu... Nothing to lose, rite?
Good luck!
Added on July 11, 2012, 10:41 pmps. Best to go straight to COSE!!
Can do like this? I let u see my mail... iszit i let them misunderstand my mean?
From: iBadJER Jericho [mailto:jericho1a@hotmail.com] Sent: 10 Julai 2012 21:56 To: I.CARE CENTRE PROTON EDAR Subject: About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard)
About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard) Wanna ask for the FLX Standard version, the seat belt warning indicator will light on when we on the car? Because my seat belt not light on when i on the car, it is problem?
They reply :
From: I.CARE@proton.com To: jericho1a@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:30:42 +0800 Subject: RE: About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard)
Dear Sir,
Thank You for your inquiry. Please be informed that the seat belt indicator lamp should be functioning when your start the engine and not fastening your seat belt. If it does not function, then we advise you to refer to PROTON nearest authorised service centre.
For the listing, kindly visit our website www.proton-edar.com.my for reference.
Thank You for your kind cooperation and support towards our product and services.
Best regards,
PROTON i.care
PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD. Centre of Excellence Complex KM33.8 Westbound Shah Alam Expressway 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Can do like this? I let u see my mail... iszit i let them misunderstand my mean?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
From: iBadJER Jericho [mailto:jericho1a@hotmail.com] Sent: 10 Julai 2012 21:56 To: I.CARE CENTRE PROTON EDAR Subject: About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard)
About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard) Wanna ask for the FLX Standard version, the seat belt warning indicator will light on when we on the car? Because my seat belt not light on when i on the car, it is problem?
They reply : From: I.CARE@proton.com To: jericho1a@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:30:42 +0800 Subject: RE: About Seat belt indicator lamp (Proton Saga FLX 1.3 CVT Standard)
Dear Sir,
Thank You for your inquiry. Please be informed that the seat belt indicator lamp should be functioning when your start the engine and not fastening your seat belt. If it does not function, then we advise you to refer to PROTON nearest authorised service centre.
For the listing, kindly visit our website www.proton-edar.com.my for reference.
Thank You for your kind cooperation and support towards our product and services.
Best regards,
PROTON i.care
PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD. Centre of Excellence Complex KM33.8 Westbound Shah Alam Expressway 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Try 2answer yr question...to best of my knowledge, ok?
Bro gogoman86 was trying to compare difference between FLX Exec & Std ie Exec has wat Std not hv... So wat is in Exec may not be found in Std. A strong possibility.
Me rber 1 mber here ask abt a connector he found (under driver's seat) which was NOT connected. Try see if yu can find such a connector under yr driver's seat. If got AND it's also NOT connected, then probably yr FLX Std NOT hv the seatbelt sensor.
Good Hunting...
ps. Juz my fantastic imagination...?
i hunt my under seat d... nothing... just see two hole got screw only.
If manual, of course no problem. If AT, maybe you will curse abit, but is adequate enough. If 4 person and above, maybe need to turn off aircon
QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 11 2012, 09:54 PM)
yeah, agree with that, the choice is ours, and we gonna drive it for few years until we afford for buy another car
ps. car is just a transportation, doesn't need to invest so much money on it since the market value for existing car keep dropping unless we invest it on housing
[OFFTOPIC] To be honest, I'm quite wary about investing in KL properties now. Many of them so farking expensive until bank loan also cannot match the asking price dy Semenyih tiny 2-storey terrace house going for 300k-400k, WTF [/OFFTOPIC]
QUOTE(li_5997 @ Jul 11 2012, 09:58 PM)
Guys...
anyone experience car a bit shaky when driving at about 20 going to 40 when the odometer is 1.5K to 2K
shaking as in steering and whole car shaking? or engine shaking like going to mati?
QUOTE(badjer @ Jul 11 2012, 10:35 PM)
So sad about this... But funny... Proton care reply the msg.. i show u Dear Sir,
Thank You for your inquiry. Please be informed that the seat belt indicator lamp should be functioning when your start the engine and not fastening your seat belt. If it does not function, then we advise you to refer to PROTON nearest authorised service centre.
For the listing, kindly visit our website www.proton-edar.com.my for reference.
Thank You for your kind cooperation and support towards our product and services.
Best regards,
That mean only EX version will get Seatbelt indicator light?
Print the email out and show to SC. Tell them you dun care iCare say ade light!
[OFFTOPIC] To be honest, I'm quite wary about investing in KL properties now. Many of them so farking expensive until bank loan also cannot match the asking price dy Semenyih tiny 2-storey terrace house going for 300k-400k, WTF [/OFFTOPIC]
if can own house/apartment in KL/PJ, you can be virtually millionaire..
If manual, of course no problem. If AT, maybe you will curse abit, but is adequate enough. If 4 person and above, maybe need to turn off aircon [OFFTOPIC] To be honest, I'm quite wary about investing in KL properties now. Many of them so farking expensive until bank loan also cannot match the asking price dy Semenyih tiny 2-storey terrace house going for 300k-400k, WTF [/OFFTOPIC] shaking as in steering and whole car shaking? or engine shaking like going to mati? Print the email out and show to SC. Tell them you dun care iCare say ade light!
Any SC branch also can?
Added on July 11, 2012, 11:03 pm
QUOTE(riezzien @ Jul 11 2012, 09:22 PM)
Badjer : I'm driving FLX standard and yes the seatbelt indicator isn't available in our cars. This small2 things sometimes made me regret for not choosing executive
Your meter also just show like this? Did not light the seatbelt?
This post has been edited by badjer: Jul 11 2012, 11:04 PM
Try 2answer yr question...to best of my knowledge, ok?
Bro gogoman86 was trying to compare difference between FLX Exec & Std ie Exec has wat Std not hv... So wat is in Exec may not be found in Std. A strong possibility.
Me rber 1 mber here ask abt a connector he found (under driver's seat) which was NOT connected. Try see if yu can find such a connector under yr driver's seat. If got AND it's also NOT connected, then probably yr FLX Std NOT hv the seatbelt sensor.
just my opinion, dont create so many hassle if the fact is STD version dont have the indicator light. what we can get at last is only apology or some reward? that also if you are lucky enuf to "lie" dou something back
same to your airbag light, the panel is just standard panel across all the saga version...the icon is there but no function ><
This post has been edited by nickzkuso: Jul 11 2012, 11:08 PM
just my opinion, dont create so many hassle if the fact is STD version dont have the indicator light. what we can get at last is only apology or some reward? that also if you are lucky enuf to "lie" dou something back
Haha... Then i also wont make so many hassle. I just wanna let them know wrong information will made more misunderstanding. Coz i also working as Customer Services.
Haha... Then i also wont make so many hassle. I just wanna let them know wrong information will made more misunderstanding. Coz i also working as Customer Services.
Jul 11 2012, 10:05 PM
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Can't verify with you how "flush" can we go on the wheels, can flush means no sagat issue what.. 
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