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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V25, Drive Saga Like a Boss!

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lhwj
post Jul 15 2012, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 15 2012, 06:57 PM)
Sume dah pigi main FSB dan enduroshield  hmm.gif
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Mana ade... stuck with my books and notes all day (and for the rest of the night) cry.gif

Didn't even get a chance to drive Gaga today.

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post Jul 16 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 16 2012, 12:43 AM)
Err... sparkplug works BEST when it was in half working condition blink.gif Don't need to believe me, most your mech doesn't use the filler gauge to tune your sparkplug ignition clearance before they screw the holes. If you keep doing that, whilst getting near to 15k you start to feel the car save petrol(when the gap become wider), suddenly you changed to new plugs(tighter gap) and the car eat more petrol again laugh.gif
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No wonder my consumption's shot up recently sweat.gif

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post Jul 16 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 14 2012, 08:27 PM)
Anyway, just for discussion's sake: since FLX springs are stiffer, would it result in the chassis actually flexing more than the BLM/FL?  that's why a FSB/RSB reinforcement will be more noticable in an FLX than a BLM/FL? hmm.gif

Pictures to come soon  thumbup.gif
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I think your hypothesis sounds very logical. Softer springs = less force transmitted to chassis = less flex.

I tried paying more attention to the handling during my drive today to the UM exam hall and back. Perhaps it rides better over bumps (less wobble) but unlike the FLX owners I can't really feel much difference, especially the steering. I remember zukjka mentioning that the steering was heavier immediately after a short slalom run along the road laugh.gif Maybe I'm just not driving it hard enough hmm.gif

Unker David, if I ever get to meet you before I move back to Penang I'll let you have a go and you can then tell the difference between FSB only and FSB+RSB thumbup.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2012, 03:16 PM)
To be honest I don't feel my steering to be heavier either  hmm.gif Just that the front end feels more solid.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2012, 03:19 PM)
Also, have you done any hard cornering?
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Front end more solid hmm.gif Haven't had chance to do really hard cornering. Lemme test summore first. Did you say you wanna organise trip to Ulu Yam? icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 16 2012, 03:15 PM)
u really wan unker david drive ar...later ur tyre botak thn how?  whistling.gif
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blink.gif And prolly burn my clutch too doh.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jul 16 2012, 03:19 PM)
can share experience for parking in such as shopping centre?
heard it will slightly difficult during parking after install struct bar?  hmm.gif
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Yup like the others said, no difference while parking.
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 16 2012, 03:25 PM)
i found out that my long beep sound came from the speaker of the alarm
far right upper side of the engine compartment there
written on it is the code of the product...PW855846 and it said multi code
mind asking is it possible is the speaker problem and change the speaker only?
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I doubt it's the speaker problem. Something else is causing your speaker to beep so maybe look at the alarm system?
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post Jul 17 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 17 2012, 06:23 PM)
Today dint drive my gaga, ayam sadding  sad.gif
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Me too.

QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Jul 17 2012, 06:08 PM)
lol out of topic, ada blackberry user here? need help. haha!
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Me!

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 17 2012, 12:29 AM)
Bear with it for awhile, after 2~3 times engine oil changed it will back to what you've previously expected. Next time don't simply change your sparkplug if there is nothings wrong with it. My case is different, already flooded with carbon, clocked 19k km.


2-3 times means 20k-30k km. That's a long time more! sweat.gif

It's all part of the 40k km service. I think I've been using these all this while. How long do they normally last?

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*NOT POISON* thank you for the offer, in return I let you try FSB+RSB. What day you're more free in the evening around 4~6pm? I stay Bandar Sri Damansara, RM1.60 x 2 toll I can still afford to pay you a visit.


Not really free this week. Will let you know smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 18 2012, 04:10 AM)
Wanna compare notes with those who just installed the FSB, especially zukjka and Mieza.

Do you guys feel any different when driving on a relatively straight road such as MRR2 / Kesas? The best I can describe is that the steering feels more sensitive than before, like a slight movement would cause the car to pull to one side. I knew FSB would increase steering response, but I didn't expect this on a straight, wide road. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I have to pay more attention until I am used to it  hmm.gif Seriously need to get used to the altered handling characteristics before plonking in the RSB.

I have not done a lot of driving this few days, let alone hard driving. But I can confirm that cornering definitely feels much more syok  thumbup.gif Honestly didn't expect it to have such noticable improvement, especially the reduced bodyroll 

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Actually after driving today I can probably say that the FSB helps stability quite a bit. Like I said before it goes well over bumps now. And I think I'm starting to feel the difference in corners. Less body roll thumbup.gif

Just finished my last paper today. I think I was too stressed to feel the difference then tongue.gif

Driving to LCCT tomorrow night. Will let you know how it feels at high speeds on the highway, but I think Mieza can tell you that already tongue.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 18 2012, 08:42 AM)
Waiting for Mieza & Zukjka confirmation. But I can confirm WITH RSB the car can drift laugh.gif until you reduce rear tayar pressure.

Luke is not free this week, but next week is the last week of July liao  not sure whether still got chance to trash a BLM SE with FSB
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Oh actually I'm free this evening whistling.gif

QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 18 2012, 03:10 PM)
tomolow collect car  rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 18 2012, 03:15 PM)
can i legister in here ady ka? heheh  tongue.gif
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Ask TS lor
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post Jul 18 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 18 2012, 04:40 PM)
yup. fire red
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Rare. As everyone demonstrated on Saturday, everyone choose white whistling.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Jul 18 2012, 08:30 PM)
Bro, its solar powered battery rite. There shud be no water? Solar dry cells? =O
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Solar powered battery? blink.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 18 2012, 09:09 PM)
Meeting Luke shortly. Anyway, heard that luminescent dash sofa king expansive wor. Around 300+ hai mou? sweat.gif
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Had a great time tonight thumbup.gif

QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 19 2012, 01:22 AM)
Good god. That accident looks horrible. sweat.gif

What car was that and where did it happen? Did the driver survive later? Looks like she might have broken legs.

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QUOTE(NeoMnemonic @ Jul 18 2012, 04:36 PM)
3:15am Jln Kelang Lama towards NPE/Sunway/PJ, front of BHP/Sime Tyres which is under the NPE bridge, a car has just crashed. It's a red colour Peugeot car plat number 'PJX x308' with 'P' sticker.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 18 2012, 06:23 PM)
it was a 308 turbo. 408 doesn't have panoramic roof. lucky it was a peugeot. otherwise, it could have been much worse.
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 19 2012, 01:31 AM)
So how was it?
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It's so weird. I say his car is nicer and he says my car is nicer rclxub.gif Hear it from him lah.

But I think I like the RSB brows.gif Then we hopped into his Iswaga and drove the whole stretch of MRR2 and proved to me that stock 4G13 > S4PE laugh.gif


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post Jul 19 2012, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 19 2012, 01:55 AM)
When wanna do it again brows.gif later go back Penang less siok liao lor, or we go Lebuh Jelotong next round brows.gif


We shall go George Town -> Batu Ferringhi -> Teluk Bahang -> Balik Pulau -> Teluk Kumbar -> Bayan Lepas and back to George Town, the MRR2 equivalent hmm.gif

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Luke 1 box of petrol, I 1 box of petrol consumed, fair and square!


Actually while driving up the car park my third bar came back on laugh.gif

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Ahem sleep.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:06 AM

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Back from LCCT. I feel the steering is more precise and accurate. Really love this FSB wub.gif

On another note, latest tank is 8.0L/100km vmad.gif Pretty bad considering I was cruising at 90 km/h all the way doh.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 20 2012, 12:10 AM)
You also, any difference with David's car with RSB?
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Didn't get to sapu corners properly, so I can't point out specifics but I feel that his car generally handles better than mine. The 15 inch wheels might be a factor though. You should test drive it yourself thumbup.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 20 2012, 06:29 AM)
Time for the calibration. Generally it wouldn't help much, but atleast 0.5km/litre is what you'll be expecting. Is there anyway we can find out what is the original setup for the gap?


Bear in mind that I have driven to LCCT on previous occasions and the consumption then was more like 6.xL/100km. So it's a pretty big increase. I estimate that I've lost about 100 km of range on every tank. Hitting 400 km is so difficult now. What more the new XM2 tyres are supposed to have lower rolling resistance so it's really a slap in the face to me that after spending so much on tyres, battery and the 40k service FC gets much worse doh.gif

I really have no idea about the spark plugs. I don't even know if they are adjustable. I didn't know the spark plug gap could make such a huge difference, previously I thought the ECU got reset when they changed my battery but then again it's not reasonable either. Can we experiment with the gap using trial and error? tongue.gif

Actually looking back on my Fuelly log I can see that early last year I was struggling to go below 8.0 and I couldn't hit 400 km a tank. Then the two gradually occurred more and more often until it was almost routine. Until now. If you wanna analyse my chart see here.

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We can arrange time to sapu corner before you leave. But need to choose a proper road and do it discretely. Lot of chiarymarkan lately nod.gif


Another midnight MRR2 trip thumbup.gif

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As of the bolded... refer below quote from private message. I where got ganas whistling.gif Like he's not whacking corner with his car until his gf scream whistling.gif

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You see la you and your ganas driving stories.
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dun scare him away with your tofu delivery driving style laugh.gif
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Didn't feel nervous at all, although my adrenaline kicked in a bit when you floored till redline in third gear rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 20 2012, 08:42 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


david watching dares sinking and thinking.. should i rescue him or not?
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:28 AM

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The user manual says the spark plug type is NGK BPR6EF-11, and I found this. It says gap is 1.1. Unit is mm? hmm.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 20 2012, 09:52 AM)
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Awesome writeup thumbup.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 20 2012, 09:11 AM)
If your previous tyre is stock goodyear/silverstone, then this XM2 will definitely consume more petrol due to softer compound, especially it is new now.
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jul 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
morning everyone... yesterday morning just full refuel my car and travelled about 120KM, and then this morning refuel again with RON 97. so my fuel tank now is mixed with RON 95 + 97... at the very first moment i step down my pedal, the feel really different, engine very responsive, pick up better, feel my car more power...  brows.gif

anyhow, why RON 97 so expensive...  cry.gif  otherwise if different just 10 or 20 cent, sure everytime i pump in RON 97...  sad.gif
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Wehen I first got my Gaga I ran it on RON97. This was before the sorhigh price increase. Loved the power and smoothness. Been more than a year since a drop of RON97 entered my tank.
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 20 2012, 03:28 PM)
belum la. after work go get it. now day dreamin

GAGA U LALA  rclxms.gif
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Prolly the only guy in Mahresia who is so happy "downgrading" from a Karmuree to Gaga. Furthermore dun care Toyota's awesome resale value and dump the old car in the river pulak tongue.gif

This proves how good the Gaga is thumbup.gif

Nanti we see Beemer and Mercs owners "downgrading" oso laugh.gif

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post Jul 21 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 20 2012, 11:44 PM)
This sunday nite mini TT@cheras who else is coming? gigiman? kenjilew?
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