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The Amateur Working Bee
post Jul 10 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 11:43 AM)
The first video did look awesome, comparison to the ebay simulator that i have now. There are even purple items too.

I understand that in game development, things changes all the time but what we have now, its just a former shadow of what Diablo was.

Where are the armies of enemies to bash over? The atmospheric soundtrack that the demo has, replaced with a really terrible soundtrack in the final game. Elemental damage that actually make sense, instead of just a flashy dead corpse. Original siegebreaker was so much cooler than the rubbish that we have now, other than the ridiculous one hit kill attack. Love the spawning of armies of skeletons at the end of the demo.

Now, all we get is just low item drops, really silly conversations in the game, large armies to bash over replaced with Elite that is just no fun to fight, unless you have good gear. Boss fights are still quite good, maybe not as good as the original siegebreaker, but it is still fun. I dont remember that Diablo 1 or 2 had Elite packs that just ruin the gameplay for me.

I guess i was just overhyping the game before the game release.
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time for you to play Hardcore mode lul
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post Jul 10 2012, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 12:01 PM)
time for you to play Hardcore mode lul
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No thanks, not interested with hardcore.

Still the same shitty writing, gameplay, item drop rate except once you die, you die.
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post Jul 10 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 12:06 PM)
No thanks, not interested with hardcore.

Still the same shitty writing, gameplay, item drop rate except once you die, you die.
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that alone will change how you play the game and view the game, i used to play softcore alot, have the same gripes bout how "boring" D3 was, no offense thou, the real challenge is at Hardcore, Softcore is just meh...thats my opinion and what i found in HC mode compared to SC mode
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post Jul 10 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 12:11 PM)
that alone will change how you play the game and view the game, i used to play softcore alot, have the same gripes bout how "boring" D3 was, no offense thou, the real challenge is at Hardcore, Softcore is just meh...thats my opinion and what i found in HC mode compared to SC mode
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As i said, no hardcore for me.

It is still essentially the same crappy game. Things i hate will not go away because i play hardcore.

Is the drop rate better there?
Is terrible forced narration still there?
Is the badly designed Elite packs still present?

Adding on the fact that internet is not always great, thanks to people pp-streaming all the time, which will make me die to lag a lot more often than my own stupidity like chasing goblins. I had enough of the lag due to ppstream in softcore, no way i want to make an even larger risk with hardcore.

Even i purposely build all 5 classes to be more tanky than usual, like DH with more Vit and armor items, lag will kill me in hardcore eventually.

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post Jul 10 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 12:18 PM)
As i said, no hardcore for me.

It is still essentially the same crappy game. Things i hate will not go away because i play hardcore.

Is the drop rate better there?
Is terrible forced narration still there?
Is the badly designed Elite packs still present?

Adding on the fact that internet is not always great, thanks to people pp-streaming all the time, which will make me die to lag a lot more often than my own stupidity like chasing goblins. I had enough of the lag due to ppstream in softcore, no way i want to make an even larger risk with hardcore.

Even i purposely build all 5 classes to be more tanky than usual, like DH with more Vit and armor items, lag will kill me in hardcore eventually.
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then why dont change games? blink.gif

i usually just play other games if a game doesnt make me enjoy it, heck i even delete em, no point forcing yourself to play the game if you cant stand other factors of it that overshadows your enjoyment
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post Jul 10 2012, 12:29 PM

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post Jul 10 2012, 12:32 PM

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fighting over this game... u guys just got jay wilsoned!
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post Jul 10 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 12:21 PM)
then why dont change games? blink.gif

i usually just play other games if a game doesnt make me enjoy it, heck i even delete em, no point forcing yourself to play the game if you cant stand other factors of it that overshadows your enjoyment
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A simple decision above that many refuse to choose.

/shakes head

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post Jul 10 2012, 01:09 PM

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what fighting? O.o

cmon man, im just stating the truth, and my experience with games i dont like or cant agree with, i can even list down the games that i have bought and chucked aside coz i dont enjoy it, CS:Source, Dota2, TF2 and Portal

if i wanted to be sarcastic or something, id had go to those related threads and open similar threads about why i hate those game so much even thou there are tons of the same threads lying around.

Dont get me wrg, im not trying to incite any arguement about the game, im trying to figure out why ppl are STILL playing or STILL griping bout a game that they dont like or dont enjoy, it puzzles me to a certain extent coz ever since Blizzard came out with D3, these kinda threads are rampant and makes no sense at all, its like dejavu, like D3 repetitive.

if those players find D3 repetitive and boring, wouldnt opening similar threads as these almost everyday repetitive too?
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post Jul 10 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 01:09 PM)
what fighting? O.o

cmon man, im just stating the truth, and my experience with games i dont like or cant agree with, i can even list down the games that i have bought and chucked aside coz i dont enjoy it, CS:Source, Dota2, TF2 and Portal

if i wanted to be sarcastic or something, id had go to those related threads and open similar threads about why i hate those game so much even thou there are tons of the same threads lying around.

Dont get me wrg, im not trying to incite any arguement about the game, im trying to figure out why ppl are STILL playing or STILL griping bout a game that they dont like or dont enjoy, it puzzles me to a certain extent coz ever since Blizzard came out with D3, these kinda threads are rampant and makes no sense at all, its like dejavu, like D3 repetitive.

if those players find D3 repetitive and boring, wouldnt opening similar threads as these almost everyday repetitive too?
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It is because D3 is a heavily flawed game, there are some aspects are good, but some aspects are just terrible. I still play from time to time, so, am i eligible to post here?

It is incredibly repetitive, and i dont see anyone could deny about that because it is the nature of ARPG games. It just because there arent enough sugar coating to make the grind more enjoyable. Maybe an infinite dungeon from Torchlight or Disgeae would make things better since the technology is already there.

People complain because they want the game to improve. The reason is as simple as that. If they hate the game, they wont even post on the forums and a lot of these posts are legitimate concerns. In my opinion, it will be the end of gaming if people stop being concern about games because developers could not get some of the much required feedback to improve it. Not all the feedback are good, to begin with, but some of them actually improves the game.

If you hate this kind of thread so much, why dont you post on these threads then? Let the haters be with the haters, the fans be with the fans. Rather than coming and ask people to stop playing a game because they are posting a concern. I doubt TS is being sarcastic or trying to stir trouble here.

To be honest, i have enjoyed the game to a certain aspect but the game has a few flaws that annoy me a lot.


Added on July 10, 2012, 1:26 pm
QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 12:21 PM)
then why dont change games? blink.gif

i usually just play other games if a game doesnt make me enjoy it, heck i even delete em, no point forcing yourself to play the game if you cant stand other factors of it that overshadows your enjoyment
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Are you asking me to change games because i always criticise about the game? I have my freewill to choose whatever i want to play.

I enjoyed it to a certain aspect of the game, its not like its a pile of poo.

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post Jul 10 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 12:18 PM)
As i said, no hardcore for me.

It is still essentially the same crappy game. Things i hate will not go away because i play hardcore.

Is the drop rate better there?
Is terrible forced narration still there?
Is the badly designed Elite packs still present?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 01:23 PM)
It is because D3 is a heavily flawed game, there are some aspects are good, but some aspects are just terrible. I still play from time to time, so, am i eligible to post here?

It is incredibly repetitive, and i dont see anyone could deny about that because it is the nature of ARPG games. It just because there arent enough sugar coating to make the grind more enjoyable. Maybe an infinite dungeon from Torchlight or Disgeae would make things better since the technology is already there.

People complain because they want the game to improve. The reason is as simple as that. If they hate the game, they wont even post on the forums and a lot of these posts are legitimate concerns. In my opinion, it will be the end of gaming if people stop being concern about games because developers could not get some of the much required feedback to improve it. Not all the feedback are good, to begin with, but some of them actually improves the game.

If you hate this kind of thread so much, why dont you post on these threads then? Let the haters be with the haters, the fans be with the fans. Rather than coming and ask people to stop playing a game because they are posting a concern. I doubt TS is being sarcastic or trying to stir trouble here.

To be honest, i have enjoyed the game to a certain aspect but the game has a few flaws that annoy me a lot.
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odd, im pretty sure i said "im puzzled" why these kinda threads pop up, not "i hate", regardless, not to be nitpicky thou, somehow initial post kinda doesnt fully explain you view the game, so i wanted to know more, so you are trying to say now that you COULD improve the game by SUGGESTING "here" instead of Bnet forums where chances of them seeing it is actually exist? unless ur telling me Blizz hired someone to read "improvement suggestion" threads in Lowyat.net
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post Jul 10 2012, 01:39 PM

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Problem is Diablo3 trying to become more like WoW instead of D2.


Added on July 10, 2012, 1:39 pmCrap like Enrage timers are more relevant to MMOs compared to an ARPG.

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post Jul 10 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 10 2012, 01:23 PM)

Are you asking me to change games because i always criticise about the game? I have my freewill to choose whatever i want to play.

I enjoyed it to a certain aspect of the game, its not like its a pile of poo.
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Nawwww i cbf to "ask" ppl to change games, im not their parent to ask them to do what i want, heck if i was a parent, i wouldnt rly FORCE my kid to play what i want would i? as ive stated on my later post, "im puzzled" by the fact that ppl dont feel repetitive to discuss the same fact over and over again when there is available threads for you to do so, rather of "asking" ppl to change game, im actually "suggesting", as ive encountered the same issues as other games, and i live just fine without opening such threads on related games, i THINK i SHOULD also have my right and freewill to suggest/give opinion on whatever i want which fits the particular subject on a "forum" no?
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post Jul 10 2012, 01:43 PM

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At this juncture, I would like to step in after an interesting read to remind everyone that the Lowyat Diablo forums remain a very public forum.

Anything touching D3 has it's place here despite whether I personally agree with it or disagree. Everyone is entitled to post an opinion or give a response. Let's leave forum policing to the Mods shall we?
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post Jul 10 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2012, 01:43 PM)
At this juncture, I would like to step in after an interesting read to remind everyone that the Lowyat Diablo forums remain a very public forum.

Anything touching D3 has it's place here despite whether I personally agree with it or disagree. Everyone is entitled to post an opinion or give a response. Let's leave forum policing to the Mods shall we?
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ah yes...derailment from comparing old beta vids to current game TO "why diablo3 sux" should be totally acceptable when there is a couple more similar ones ever since the game is launched. what happened to "very public" or "everyone is entitled to post an opinion or give a response" then?
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post Jul 10 2012, 01:54 PM

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err..PPStreaming...mean live streaming? mean if play with players that is currently streaming will cause lag ?
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 01:47 PM)
ah yes...derailment from comparing old beta vids to current game TO "why diablo3 sux" should be totally acceptable when there is a couple more similar ones ever since the game is launched. what happened to "very public" or "everyone is entitled to post an opinion or give a response" then?
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Well Bee, I thought it's fine for TS to post his grief and it's totally ok for you to be entitled to your opinons. Just wanted to pull everyone back into perspective before another forum flamewar starts.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2012, 01:54 PM)
Well Bee, I thought it's fine for TS to post his grief and it's totally ok for you to be entitled to your opinons. Just wanted to pull everyone back into perspective before another forum flamewar starts.
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i was just merely asking a question between gamers, i dont see how is it my fault if ppl feel "flamed" when it wasnt even laced with such intention, unless his inner conscience has those dark embers of truth that my words has coincidentally stoked.
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Jul 10 2012, 01:54 PM)
err..PPStreaming...mean live streaming? mean if play with players that is currently streaming will cause lag ?
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A program to stream movies/drama series, etc. Not only it will cause (extreme) lag, it causes other internet users suffer constant DCs while the PPS user feel like normal.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 10 2012, 01:41 PM)
Nawwww i cbf to "ask" ppl to change games, im not their parent to ask them to do what i want, heck if i was a parent, i wouldnt rly FORCE my kid to play what i want would i? as ive stated on my later post, "im puzzled" by the fact that ppl dont feel repetitive to discuss the same fact over and over again when there is available threads for you to do so, rather of "asking" ppl to change game, im actually "suggesting", as ive encountered the same issues as other games, and i live just fine without opening such threads on related games, i THINK i SHOULD also have my right and freewill to suggest/give opinion on whatever i want which fits the particular subject on a "forum" no?
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Game developers can be 'forced' to rethink their position, to do better and make the game better for all their fans. Take for example, Mass Effect 3.

Mass Effect 3 had very unsatisfactory endings. If you watch this video below, you will notice that ending had lots of glaring plotholes and made no sense overall. In fact, despite fan outcry, Bioware still refused to do anything about the endings.



Enter the Retake Mass Effect 3 initiative. Thousands of fans banded together, to demand a better ending for Mass Effect 3. They held the line, and ultimately, after months of campaigning, Bioware finally gave in, and offered to take a second look at the endings and the result? They released the extended cut DLC for FREE to fans.

Take a look at the same ending now. So much better than the original.









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