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audreyreiko
post Mar 31 2010, 12:15 PM

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Learning via Drama and Anime has it's own benefits, they are more likely to enhance your learning experience if you have a basic understanding of the language.

I had a lot of problems with "受身形 Ukemi-kei" and "使役形 Shieki-kei" during my learning in class, but when I watch this drama "Liar game", the girl keep saying she got cheated : 騙された, so now I keep remembering "された" is something done unto you, like 食べされた (u got eaten?? lol)

It does help you remember better, because u keep hearing them over and over again. smile.gif

Just my 2 cents, hope it helps~


Added on March 31, 2010, 12:18 pm
QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Mar 31 2010, 10:37 AM)
She passed Lvl3 last year and lvl4 the year before.
Both on her first try.
Although I studied longer, she has better vocab than me due to all those anime and song listening.  blush.gif  blush.gif
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Same here same here, I also pass both lvl 3 and 4 on the first try, although not in the same year.

And my sensei keep commenting about my pronunciation sounds like native japanese, like they're really impressed... blush.gif

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audreyreiko
post Mar 31 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Mar 31 2010, 03:22 PM)
may i know which language center u go to? how much is the fees?
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I go to ICLS Subang, the fees IMO are pretty reasonable, per course is about 300+ which comes to about 100 a month because one normal part time course takes an average of 3 months.

If you take the intensive course it will be more pricey but still worth it because you finish it in a much shorter period, like 10 days for 1 course level. But that also mean you pay 300+ for just that 10 days. Depends on how you look at it, to me it's about the same.

I would recommend this language school because their teachers are friendly and the atmosphere is relaxing.

They also have branches in KL and Damansara.

(Sounds like i'm helping them advertise pulak lol)
audreyreiko
post Apr 1 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Mar 31 2010, 10:57 PM)
OFFTOPIC:

I watched the whole Liar Game Season 2 with no english subtitle  to learn Japanese,really a pain in the ass. The only japanese words I learnt in the J-drama is  十字架。
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LOL same here, I can GUESS the meaning, but out of 10 words in a sentence I can probably recognize... like 4??

Part of the reason is because they speak fast, and since a lot of Japanese words sounds similar to one another, I get confused sometimes... if there are Japanese subtitles together with the speech I will be able to understand better. smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2010, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Apr 1 2010, 04:40 PM)
Actually, ukemi-kei for taberu 食べる is taberareru 食べられる. In this form for this particular verb, it overlaps with the kanou kei 可能形

XX は食べられる means XX is edible.
to be eaten is 食べられた
to be made to eat is 食べさせられる

In general you need to be conscious of the differences when transforming Group I, II and III verbs
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I know... this drives me crazy... rclxub.gif

Any good advice how to remember this kintaro?? cry.gif

お... 願... い...! notworthy.gif
audreyreiko
post Apr 5 2010, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Apr 4 2010, 04:11 PM)
make a table, splitting between Group I, II and III verbs. You can use either jisho-kei or teinei/masu-kei as your base.

For group I, choose a minimum 1 or 2 examples of each pre-masu stem (e.g.: if using masu kei, "kakimasu";"hajimarimasu") or if you prefer jisho-kei, the endings (e.g.., "kaku"; "hajimaru")
Then add in in adjacent columns the te/ta-kei, ukemi-kei, kanou-kei, shieki-kei.

If you look carefully you should be able to discern certain patterns and reduce them into simple math-like formulae.

I could give you the formulae outright, but that wouldn't be any fun, would it? XD
Stuff you work out yourself sticks in your head much longer.

Since you are already learning ukemi and shieki kei, I would surmise that you are already at least at an intermediate level. You should be able to deduce by now that the Japanese language follows some very clear, pseudo-mathematical rules and have far less rei-gai compared to some other crazy mongrel languages (English comes to mind). If you are adept at math, using this formula approach will speed up your understanding of Japanese grammar.
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I do agree that figuring this out ourselves promote learning better... but I hate math... cry.gif

Thanks for your advice, just need to get the motivation going again!! smile.gif
audreyreiko
post Aug 25 2010, 05:16 PM

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JLPT exams registration is closing on 5th Sept!! Attention to those who are interested to take JLPT this year!

(Just registered for N3) <-- scared, as there was no precedent on this level...
audreyreiko
post Aug 27 2010, 06:55 AM

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I'm taking N3... don't know how it's like... huhuhuuh
audreyreiko
post Sep 6 2010, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Sep 5 2010, 12:07 PM)
I thought it's the due date already? sweat.gif
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Think it shouldn't be a problem but you might have missed the due date if you hadn't paid yesterday.
audreyreiko
post Sep 23 2010, 08:08 PM

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A bit demotivated in learning Japanese these days.... sad.gif

Sensei gives us lots of homework, doing those vocab homework already spending 5/6 hours in front of pc searching for definition...

Now we have to do the same amount of homework for grammar... gonna use how long to finish sad.gif Everybody in class also, quite hard to keep up with the homework d... but sensei was just laughing: sensei kibishii ne~ =,=
audreyreiko
post Dec 6 2010, 11:25 AM

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Ugh... N3 was quite hard...
audreyreiko
post Dec 8 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(engseng @ Dec 6 2010, 12:12 PM)
I'm actually curious to know from people who has studied both Chinese and Japanese... Which do you find to be harder?
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Japanese for me, because I've learnt mandarin since small, it is probably hard, but we don't find it all that hard cuz we're used to it.

Got to ask those that learns it when they're adults.
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(@bout @perture @ Feb 20 2011, 08:08 AM)
Anybody here can help me to translate my chinese name in Romaji?
My name is 黃家輝
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In canto: Wong Kar Fai?
If so: ウオン カー ファイ (uon kaa fai)

In mandarin: Hwang jia huei?
If so: フアン ジャ フイ (huan jya hui)

In hokkien: Ooi keh hui?
If so: ウーイ ケー フイ (uui kee hui)


audreyreiko
post Apr 10 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Apr 10 2013, 09:52 AM)
anyone took japanese class at icls before? thinking of taking the intensive class when i go bak malaysia for summer, but not sure how much they teach in intensive class
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u can ask for their course structure and decide, or ask or a placement test to see which level is more suitable for you smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(XPAWNED01 @ Dec 1 2014, 06:19 AM)
yep. I have problem in understanding this: 残せし者

which one is the most correct/closest translation?

1. People who still remains (Orang yang masih tinggal)
2. People who being left (Orang yang ditinggalkan)
3. People who left (Orang yang meninggalkan)
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It sounds more like 1.

 

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