jikan ga nain desuga, eigodehanashimasu

jikan ga nain desuga, eigonotsutsukerutsumori

renshuu shinakereba naranaindesuga, eigo de shimasu

eigo de tsukaenasai

kore ni chigaimasenka

Eto... when is the JLPT results coming out? Should be this month yes?

It is already out.
The results are released end of February usually.
For Penang, you may go to the Japanese Language Society to claim it or wait for the mail.

hi, need some help spelling in japanese~

for example if i want to spell konbanwa and then why the outcome will be like this こんばんは。
why instead of using わ we use は in that last word?
and if i want to spell ohayoo why the outcome like this おはよう instead of using お at the last part of word?

こんばんは uses は instead of わ, because the は here is a particle.

Direct translation for こんばん = tonight

Direct translation for こんばんは = tonight is, は = is, like referring to.

But こんばんは itself, means good evening/night.

は is a particle like in watashi は, kare は. (I am, he is)

The correct writing for Ohayo is Ohayou, which is おはよう. Some text books put it as ohayoo and some text books put it as ohayo with a stroke above the o.

Other examples include Kinou - some books put it as kino, or kinoo.

Or Kyou - some books put it as kyo or kyoo.

Don't know if this is sufficient for your understanding.

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Added on March 10, 2010, 5:10 pmEh.. honto??

Was just advised by my language center that it's coming out next week.

I'm in KL.

This post has been edited by audreyreiko: Mar 10 2010, 05:13 PM

i dont think i understand..well mostly i notice when trying to prolong the sound oo they will use u instead of o at the back...and it very confusing when trying to write end words for sentence わ to は? how to determine when the correct place to use は or わ at the last part of words?

so basically if i want the last part of the words to produce わ sound just use は?

This post has been edited by hexion: Mar 10 2010, 10:37 PM

usage of "は"
はis pronounced as "wa" when used as a particle, especially in a topic marker function. In all other instances it is pronounced as "ha" by default
The "wa" in konbanwa is a particle in this instance which is why it is commonly written as は. However, in casual communication, it is not uncommon to see even native japanese write こんばんわ

sentence ending particles aka juujoshi 終助詞
If you want to end a sentence with a "wa" sound (i.e. using a sentence-ending particle), the correct particle to use is わ　(take note that this sentence ending is gender specific and is only used in the female form of speech within the context of standard Japanese)

long sounds aka "chou on" or 長音
Long sounds ending with う　are for syllables with base sounds of "u" and "o". This represents a majority of the long sounds for those 2 base sounds.
There are some minor exceptions where お is used together with an "o" but these are few and ought to be memorized (e.g. とおい aka　遠い)
Long sounds whether written as "oo" or "ou" are nothing more than just different romanization schemes and is a just a matter of personal preference.
It doesn't affect the way it sounds or is written in Japanese. Just recognize that different books follow either one of these romanization schemes and adapt accordingly when using.
As a teacher I absolutely dislike using romaji and consider it a necessary evil for the first few chapters. If your language school or teacher is still relying on romaji by the end of the course, I suggest you ditch it before it does permanent harm to your learning of the language.


This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: Mar 11 2010, 12:19 AM

Yup.
I already got mine.
For those that pass this year, it seems they provide a file for the cert this time.

First, do refer to my previous post that explains how the roman alphabet is used only to best represent how the word is pronounced and not as an equivalent for Japanese Kana.

When you see "konbanwa" in a texbook, just think of it as the way it's pronounced and not how it's written in Japanese kana.

Like you say this can be pretty confusing because a textbook may write something with 'ha' in a sentence like " Watashi ha neko desu". The 'ha' here is pronounced as "wa". This is the reason why people often suggest you learning kana and kanji as soon as possible.

How do you differentiate them?
When the 'wa' is part of a word it is always written as わ. An example of a word is わたし（私）(me).
When the 'wa' acts as a particle it is always written as は。For example, 「きょう　は　にちようびです」（今日は日曜日です）
Try to think of this difference in English. Lets say we have a setence "That is the thesaurus" the is a particle in the sentence while the is part of a word.

The greeting "konbanwa" is actually made out of 2 words and one particle.
Kon(今) - prefix that connotes current, this, close relative location, etc
Ban（晩） - sunset and after
wa/ha - （は）- particle that marks the topic of the sentence

In ancient times, people didn't just great others "Hi", "Ohayou!" "Konbanwa!'. The greetings they used were long and more formal. So it was like "This evening is bla bla bla"

i gave up lolol. i was eager to learn japanese until one day...
without proper guide, self-learning might ended up in wrong usage of grammar and words but no one is there to correct you.

But still good to understand anime hahaha.

think about this. how many of malaysian can perfectly understand american/english movies but can't use correct grammar and words? I think Japanese will be the same case for us. Just my 2 sen

Do any of you guys watch anime purely in Japanese? I got interested in learning Japanese and that is how I started watching anime - I thought the practice would be good.

I am using kanagrams for learning hiragana/katakana and smart.fm for learning vocab. Is there anything particular to keep an eye out for if I am watching a lot of anime at the same time as trying to learn Japanese?

Thanks
Nicola
xxx

nice site add on here, thanks you need a book write them down whatever you hear and try to find out the meaning.

Maybe you've got a talent with languages. I don't know. But for the average person, it's better to start with jDramas if you want to learn this way. They talk much slower in dramas and just more common Japanese. In Anime, not only do they talk so fast, they use alot of slang, dialects and alot of this sound word(I forgot the term for this) like bari bari, doki doki and more uncommon ones. Not that is it not used in dramas, but much less frequently.

anime / jdrama / jpop etc... whatever floats your boat and keeps your interest in the language. Just having an inquisitive mind and realistic expectations will get you far. Anime features a lot of unrealistic situations that don't apply in real/modern life, and as long as you keep that in mind, you can learn alot while separating the useful from the amusing but impractical.
Watching stuff in raw is a pretty quick way of improving your listening skills but you have to be patient and maybe watch the same thing a few times depending on your skill level.
Last year's JLPT level 1 featured an awesome listening question that only an otaku would have been able to answer

Thanks so much for those information,
really helps me alot

How about German ?

every language is the same, is different a bit only, theory also same.

Hey, I learn Japanese, German and Arabic. Each has different set of grammar, ok? Quite a hassle but I think Japanese is the easiest one among the three. Tho, I need to learn more kanji.

i can say the hardest is Chinese, because have many century, each word can have 100 type of words. I believe is hard enough

You need to brush up your English too.

I think he meant the learning processes involved are the same, though the grammar is obviously different.

We all have to learn to read, write, listen, understand the grammar, and master vocabulary in order to learn a language.

Japanese language is relatively easy to learn because of the almost math-like nature of the grammar. In contrast, English is a relatively harder language to learn for a non-native speaker due to the numerous exceptions to the rules.

This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: Mar 16 2010, 05:10 PM