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post Oct 17 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Oct 17 2012, 12:18 PM)
a standard car park lot = 8'x16' = 128sqft ,

rm35/128 = rm0.273/ sqft, quite close to the maintenance charge of rm0.25+ 0.025  wink.gif

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maintenance can be varies?

Block C 1 car park rm0.25+ 0.025

Block A 2 car park rm0.25+ ( 0.025 x 2 ) ?

Block A Duplex 3 car par rm0.25+ ( 0.025 x 3 ) ?
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 17 2012, 12:22 PM)
maintenance can be varies?

Block C 1 car park  (rm0.25+ 0.025) x 128
Block A 2 car park (rm0.25+ 0.025) x 128 x 2
Block A Duplex 3 car park (rm0.25+ 0.025) x 128 x 3
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post Oct 17 2012, 12:38 PM

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Sounds interesting... I agree more car parks owner pay more, this is due to you got more car using the roads and also you own more car park bay... But the maintenance for car park is a bit high tho...


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post Oct 17 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(danielisme @ Oct 17 2012, 11:51 AM)
But this world is very practical , if the carpark floor without maintenance charges , the condition of carpark will not proper care. Maybe some rubbish here and there , driveway marking disappear or some owner wash their car and make the whole floor wet and other owner not happy so atleast can call the management . I heard other sdb project after a year the residents continue vote sdb as maintenance management because they done a good job. So for this case maybe the salesperson never explain clearly. Rm18k is consider cheap and other condo need rm30k but rm30k on loan then have to pay interest to bank too.
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Dear Danielisme

Firstly let's me gives some thoughts to you.
1. What would happen if some of the owners don't pay the full amount of car park maintenance fee but pay the normal maintenance fee for whatever reasons?
Can MC ban them from entering their property? I think MC can't. Legally speaking MC has no right to do so as the owners only defaut on car park maintenance. So what happen next?
Will MC ban their vehicle entering into the premises? Look like MC can. In this case, the owners will have to park their vehicles outside and cause congestion to the entrance. Is it worthwhile staying this kind of environment which is no different with low cost flat.
Can MC able to sustain the car park maintenance if everyone not paying the car maintenance fee?
2) what would happen if some of the owners pay one car park maintenance given an excuse that they only need one parking lot and park their other vehicles outside? Same thing will happen like item 1 above.
3) what happen if S&P force the purchasers to sign stating that the purchasers must settle the car park maintenance fee before the purchasers are allow to enter into their property? Will you sign it?
No doubt the LO states that SDB can vary or amend the terms and conditions but to do that SDB must give reason on why it necessary to do that. For instance, sufficient CCTV cover car park area as required by local authority which incur additional maintenance fee. If the car park maintenance fee is profit orientated then I strongly disagree.
Have a thought about that.
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post Oct 17 2012, 02:51 PM

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Hi all, i am just booking a unit in Block C. I did checked with my SA after reading the thread and he confirmed there is no parking maintenance fee charge by SDB.

If there is a case, i will ask for refund as there is lack of trust.
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post Oct 17 2012, 03:55 PM

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Sales exec told me today they received email frm upper management, the decision is: carpark fees wont be charged for the 1st 2 years. From then onwards its up to JMB to decide to start imposing fees or not.

Maintenance(condo or carpark) fees arent written in S&P.

I told him that there should be black and white in regards to this new info and circulated among purchasers so there wont be anymore confusion later on.

I think this is fair enough and i might proceed with the purchase.

After 2 years, if the situation warrants, i dont mind having to pay the fees.

But i hope they wont purposely make the carpark unkempt with no lightings!

This post has been edited by Abbylicious: Oct 17 2012, 03:56 PM
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Abbylicious @ Oct 17 2012, 04:55 PM)
Sales exec told me today they received email frm upper management, the decision is: carpark fees wont be charged for the 1st 2 years. From then onwards its up to JMB to decide to start imposing fees or not.

Maintenance(condo or carpark) fees arent written in S&P.

I told him that there should be black and white in regards to this new info and circulated among purchasers so there wont be anymore confusion later on.

I think this is fair enough and i might proceed with the purchase.

After 2 years, if the situation warrants, i dont mind having to pay the fees.

But i hope they wont purposely make the carpark unkempt with no lightings!
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I wonder what are the justifications by the upper management when they initially impose RM35/parking lot?

Low density means less people to pay more money.

If the extra money is intended to supplement the deficit of the maintenance fees, mean maybe it's merely enough
or not enough on the maintenance fees solely to cover the maintenance cost the condo.

In long run, the conditions of the condo may be degraded due to insufficient funds collected.

Unless the car park fees are collected as profits.
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QUOTE(josie11 @ Oct 17 2012, 02:51 PM)
Hi all, i am just booking a unit in Block C. I did checked with my SA after reading the thread and he confirmed there is no parking maintenance fee charge by SDB.

If there is a case, i will ask for refund as there is lack of trust.
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great, but make sure ur unit did not facing the next door sutera apartment mechanical treatment plant or the WOTP central underground mechanical treatment plant. Not sure hows the feng shui is surrounded by gold, just share what i found out for block C last week
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post Oct 17 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 17 2012, 05:57 PM)
great, but make sure ur unit did not facing the next door sutera apartment mechanical treatment plant or the WOTP central underground mechanical treatment plant. Not sure hows the feng shui is surrounded by gold, just share what i found out for block C last week
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Dear All

Whether no parking maintenance fee or not we shall see once S&P and deed of covenant presented to us. In the deed of covenant we will see the facilities and terms and conditions in maintaining the facilities. So read carefully the content of deed of covenant. Make sure we are not caught by paying extra maintenance. If we miss out we will be bound by the deed if covenant i.e extra maintenance (if any).
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post Oct 17 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 17 2012, 05:57 PM)
great, but make sure ur unit did not facing the next door sutera apartment mechanical treatment plant or the WOTP central underground mechanical treatment plant. Not sure hows the feng shui is surrounded by gold, just share what i found out for block C last week
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A so-called superb luxury condo next to machine treatment plant... Hahaha...

Cheat me once, shame on you.
Cheat me twice, shame on me!!!!
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post Oct 17 2012, 09:55 PM

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Anyone got loan 90% from bank?
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post Oct 17 2012, 10:43 PM

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Developer license and Advertising Permit

Block A - Harga Tinggi Kondo
Block B - Harga Tinggi Kondo
Block C - Harga Serdahana Kondo doh.gif rclxub.gif

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post Oct 17 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(WilberSc @ Oct 17 2012, 10:43 PM)
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image
Developer license and Advertising Permit

Block A - Harga Tinggi Kondo
Block B - Harga Tinggi Kondo
Block C - Harga Serdahana Kondo   doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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rm500k to rm700 now days are considered "harga sederhana"? hmm.gif
cant wait to know how much higher it'll get 3 years down the road.
anyhow, anyone gotten their snp yet? i would like to dig in into the clauses to find out about the carpark charges.

either way, it seems that the SDB found out the best way to avoid conflict judging by thier respond...by leaving it to the JMB to make the decision whether to impose or not the car park charges after the 2nd year. bravo u coporate scum u!

im still scorned by this car park charge issue. all my life staying in a condo, this is a first! vmad.gif
only had they informed earlier, this wont be an issue i guess
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QUOTE(flyfinn @ Oct 17 2012, 11:32 PM)
rm500k to rm700 now days are considered "harga sederhana"?  hmm.gif
cant wait to know how much higher it'll get 3 years down the road.
anyhow, anyone gotten their snp yet? i would like to dig in into the clauses to find out about the carpark charges.

either way, it seems that the SDB found out the best way to avoid conflict judging by thier respond...by leaving it to the JMB to make the decision whether to impose or not the car park charges after the 2nd year. bravo u coporate scum u!

im still scorned by this car park charge issue. all my life staying in  a condo, this is a first! vmad.gif
only had they informed earlier, this wont be an issue i guess
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Ya... Wondering how come some other projects where more bigger size of project area around RM 3xxk also can considered as high cost condo but this project must categorize Block C as medium cost condo?
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post Oct 18 2012, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 17 2012, 05:57 PM)
great, but make sure ur unit did not facing the next door sutera apartment mechanical treatment plant or the WOTP central underground mechanical treatment plant. Not sure hows the feng shui is surrounded by gold, just share what i found out for block C last week
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Hi Peri Peri, thanks for your advice. This one never come across to my mind. May i know where is the mechanical treatment plant located?
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(WilberSc @ Oct 17 2012, 11:41 PM)
Ya... Wondering how come some other projects where more bigger size of project area around RM 3xxk also can considered as high cost condo but this project must categorize Block C as medium cost condo?
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Somebody shared it, due to Block C was supposed to be allocated for medium-cost.
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:26 AM

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Block C categorized as medium cost is mainly because te material cost is lower... Means medium cost apartment...

This developer can't cheat govern....
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(josie11 @ Oct 18 2012, 07:40 AM)
Hi Peri Peri, thanks for your advice.  This one never come across to my mind. May i know where is the mechanical treatment plant located?
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take a look at the pic below. STP = sewerage treatment plant. partly exposed, sometime emit bad odur. Same like the one with JJ Cheras Selatan when u drive up the ramp which attached with building. Sometime very very smelly due to overusage or pumps breakdown

MTP = mechanical treatment plant. Class 1 and buried. Do u ever wonder why WOTP never brief u all about this. Ever wonder why such a big land but left empty without facilities? Hazard? Im not sure, im not specialist. I noticed the sales gallery is on it now.

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Better check with ur SA about this.


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QUOTE(Helius @ Oct 18 2012, 08:26 AM)
Block C categorized as medium cost is mainly because te material cost is lower... Means medium cost apartment...

This developer can't cheat govern....
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on submission to authority yes, but developer will ask buyers to sign additional agreement as upgrade package.

If the developer have valid reason not to provide the said medium cost quota, they can opt to pay back compensate to government for offset.

Said, 500 unit x 30% quota x rm90,000 (capped price) = RM 13.5 MILLION

Hence, wang senang senang masuk ke government.

Then, developer can sell all as premium officially



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post Oct 18 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 18 2012, 08:53 AM)
take a look at the pic below. STP = sewerage treatment plant. partly exposed, sometime emit bad odur. Same like the one with JJ Cheras Selatan when u drive up the ramp which attached with building. Sometime very very smelly due to overusage or pumps breakdown

MTP = mechanical treatment plant. Class 1 and buried. Do u ever wonder why WOTP never brief u all about this. Ever wonder why such a big land but left empty without facilities? Hazard? Im not sure, im not specialist. I noticed the sales gallery is on it now.

user posted image

Better check with ur SA about this.


Added on October 18, 2012, 8:58 am
on submission to authority yes, but developer will ask buyers to sign additional agreement as upgrade package.

If the developer have valid reason not to provide the said medium cost quota, they can opt to pay back compensate to government for offset.

Said, 500 unit x 30% quota x rm90,000 (capped price) = RM 13.5 MILLION

Hence, wang senang senang masuk ke government.

Then, developer can sell all as premium officially
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From the master plan above, is this the best approach for the developer to maximise the number of units?

No offence to anyone but for Block C seems to have several disadvantage

1. 3A - 09 no view of park & face another apartment and now got STP
2. 01 - 03 have "pointed edge" from Block A which is not really in line with their good feng shi concept
3. 10 - 11 next to MTP
4. Risk of selling in future due to 2 SPA

Best part is psf selling price not significantly different from Block A

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Oct 18 2012, 10:23 AM)
From the master plan above, is this the best approach for the developer to maximise the number of units? 

No offence to anyone but for Block C seems to have several disadvantage

1. 3A - 09 no view of park & face another apartment and now got STP
2. 01 - 03 have "pointed edge" from Block A which is not really in line with their good feng shi concept
3. 10 - 11 next to MTP
4. Risk of selling in future due to 2 SPA

Best part is psf selling price not significantly different from Block A
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I think they are promoting man made greens. Those landscape on top of car park podium will be very very tough to maintain.

With their odd building orientation, must be something related to feng shui thing. Anyone had asked feng shui sifu about this?

Block C still on 2 SPAs? How weird the SA never mentioned to me last week, maybe he saw me drive local car so not that aggressive promote to me. Sad

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