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TSSnort
post Jun 26 2012, 11:09 PM, updated 14y ago

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So guys, usually in our workplace or among our friends, we have 1 or 2 people among them who are pro football or football analyst. These people know what's what in football down to the team and each player.

However one thing common I notice among them is that they always say football now is controlled by bookies.

How does that work? Does that mean that the bookie will have to bribe both team? I really can't figure out how it works.

Can football pros explain?? Half buckets also can.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:11 PM

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its serious money, and its safer than doing drugs. brows.gif brows.gif

so common ppl should/would not understand how they actually works brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:13 PM

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bodo. football is not control by bookie.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:14 PM

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Team A vs Team B

Team A record 99 wins 0 lose
Team B record 0 win 99 loses

Bookie collects bid at 1:100 ratio

100000000000 people bet RM100 each on Team A win

10 people bet RM100 each on Team B win

To make money, bookie bribe Team A to lose

Team B win

???

PROFIT!!!
TSSnort
post Jun 26 2012, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 26 2012, 11:13 PM)
bodo. football is not control by bookie.
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Ya exactly. But it's a common thing ppl always say even during world cup.

Bribing 2 national team. That's serious money right??
teongpeng
post Jun 26 2012, 11:16 PM

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It is highly unlikely and quite frnkly, stupid...for bookies to fix high end matches.

ppl who make this claim knows nothing about how football betting system works.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Snort @ Jun 26 2012, 11:15 PM)
Ya exactly. But it's a common thing ppl always say even during world cup.

Bribing 2 national team. That's serious money right??
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Rumours bro. but it is not true.
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QUOTE(Snort @ Jun 26 2012, 11:15 PM)
Ya exactly. But it's a common thing ppl always say even during world cup.

Bribing 2 national team. That's serious money right??
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Do u even understand how match fixing works???
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:17 PM

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people thinking that bookies make money by hoping the bettor loses.

must be the same people who think that when they lose money in shares, they lose the money to their brokers
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Orange Lunch Box @ Jun 26 2012, 11:14 PM)
Team A vs Team B

Team A record 99 wins 0 lose
Team B record 0 win 99 loses

Bookie collects bid at 1:100 ratio

100000000000 people bet RM100 each on Team A win

10 people bet RM100 each on Team B win

To make money, bookie bribe Team A to lose

Team B win

???

PROFIT!!!
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but why malaysia football team always lose??
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:17 PM

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not all matches lol
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Orange Lunch Box @ Jun 26 2012, 11:14 PM)
Team A vs Team B

Team A record 99 wins 0 lose
Team B record 0 win 99 loses

Bookie collects bid at 1:100 ratio

100000000000 people bet RM100 each on Team A win

10 people bet RM100 each on Team B win

To make money, bookie bribe Team A to lose

Team B win

???

PROFIT!!!
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wrong. in order to control lob sided betting...bookies raise the odds. its as simple and cleacut as that. geez guys...


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post Jun 26 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 26 2012, 11:17 PM)
people thinking that bookies make money by hoping the bettor loses.

must be the same people who think that when they lose money in shares, they lose the money to their brokers
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yeah...ppl can be very ignorant mad.gif

bookies win regardless of results laaaaaaaaaaaaa

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jun 26 2012, 11:19 PM
TSSnort
post Jun 26 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Jun 26 2012, 11:16 PM)
Do u even understand how match fixing works???
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If I know I wouldn't have started this thread right? If u want to explain click la reply and start typing.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Snort @ Jun 26 2012, 11:20 PM)
If I know I wouldn't have started this thread right? If u want to explain click la reply and start typing.
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ok

*click*

blablalal typgin blablabla..

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post Jun 26 2012, 11:28 PM

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match fixing dont need to bribe whole team la

bribe striker dun score enough d....

inb4 gk score from goalpost n team stll win bribers go 14th floor
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:29 PM

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bookies will win even when

1million people bet on team A
1million people bet on team B

also, they usually control low profile leagues. easier to manipulate.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:30 PM

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match fixing is when the bookies pay certain players in certain team to create a certain result.

also can bribe the refree to favour one team over another to create the desired result.

if you say 0% chance of bookie influence is fake de. but big games controlled by bookie is hard as football players are paid very high and very hard to be bribed. unless they have gambling issue then most likely can be bribed lo.

if u can detect which game bookie influence then u rich man liao no need work. lol
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:33 PM

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when will ppl ever learn that fixing matches is pointless for the bookies because punters can choose to bet on either teams...and then theres the case of bola jalan....if ppl caught on that the match is fixed they will taruh all their money on the 'fixed 'team and tahpao the stupid bookie to kingdom come.

another point to note....there are so many many bookies in the world....which bookie exactly do u think so stupid wanna fix a match? lol....guys...

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Jun 26 2012, 11:34 PM
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:36 PM

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It's not sport but serious business. Like wwf
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Jun 26 2012, 11:33 PM)
when will ppl ever learn that fixing matches is pointless for the bookies because punters can choose to bet on either teams...and then theres the case of bola jalan....if ppl caught on that the match is fixed they will taruh all their money on the 'fixed 'team and tahpao the stupid bookie to kingdom come.

another point to note....there are so many many bookies in the world....which bookie exactly do u think so stupid wanna fix a match? lol....guys...
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 26 2012, 11:28 PM)
match fixing dont need to bribe whole team la

bribe striker dun score enough d....

inb4 gk score from goalpost n team  stll win bribers go 14th floor
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:54 PM

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post Jun 26 2012, 11:55 PM

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only bitter twat will brought this up whenever they lose
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:01 AM

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yup

that's why only idiot enjoy watch football.I really pity see the fan passionately support their team in tournament or cup not knowing that it was all set up
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:12 AM

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yup.
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:17 AM

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i dun know how do u bribe someone to score a goal when they cant even get it on target lol
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:21 AM

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Gk and defenders get more pay than strikers.
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Johnny MatStar @ Jun 27 2012, 12:01 AM)
yup

that's why only idiot enjoy watch football.I really pity see the fan passionately support their team in tournament or cup not knowing that it was all set up
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:30 AM

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not controlling the matches itself...but controlling the odds of goals..no matter how many goals either team score...the bookie still runs off with quite a load of money...

football betting works by betting on goals scored..not matches won...so i heard...
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:30 AM

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normally its the small leagues that are fixed. less ppl pay attention and the players aren't easily swayed by money.

Although you have to admit that Serie A is partially fixed, because of the pervasive hand of the mafia upon it. But I think it's more about currying favour from the referees who dont get paid as much as the players.
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just an easy excuse for losers. u know la these feles dunno nuts bout football. ask them who they support they will say Man Utd (now probably Man City). then during EUROs n WC pandai2 go bet without any kind of research. den when lose $$$ blame the whole "football controlled by bookies" thing.

so when frens/family ask they will just use that excuse. coz no one can confirm or deny. so d normal reply will be "yalor".

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post Jun 27 2012, 06:47 AM

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match fixing are mostly done by punters (i mean big punters that usually tied to mafias)....and bet heavily on licensed bookie (legal) especially asia (licensed or not licensed)...that's why u see the odds suddently changed dramatically....that's what i heard of...maybe i'm wrong
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anyone know how much money changes hands every football week?
thousands of RM? thousands of euro? millions of pounds? billions of pounds?



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