Short of reworking of the engine mounts, I don't think this 'low rpm drone' is fixable.

So true.

I think Preve serves us better as a refined cruiser than a racer. Don't like the harshness when I push the engine hard.

1, 2, 1. How many were you expecting?

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 4 2012, 07:42 PM

If it's a Preve, go to Shah Alam. If they say one month, wait one month la. What to do?

Alternately, you can also message FenomX. He has experience with this.

It is quite possible that the bulk of the wait would be with the application for the insurance claim, adjuster's review and approval of the claimed sum. Hence without looking, no matter how minor the damage, they will advise a month's wait.

Please refer to page 12 of your service booklet where it mentions ...

Severe operating conditions include but are not limited to the following cases: ...

7. More than 50% of operation time in heavy city traffic in hot temperature of 32C (89.6F) or higher.

9. Operation in extremely hot weather condition.


That kinda defines almost every car in Malaysia


Beep is from HU telling/warning you that you're approaching a POI. Can be disabled but that sort of defeats the purpose of having user POIs.

Can restore to factory settings from the 192.168.1.1 webpage.


LOL .. that's what happened to me by accident. I tried sticking the Huddle into a pouch and the button must have got pressed. Later when I was using my phone, I was wondering which 'idiot' left a Yes wifi network opened.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 7 2012, 09:43 AM

Sounds as though it's tuned to be less responsive and hence slower. Maybe, that's how they achieved better FC.

High FC as compared to which other car? Surely they don't mean to compare Preve to Viva? Can't expect to move such a large & heavy car around without incurring some FC. It's only low FC when cruising on highway. Those who worry about fuel consumption may be better off buying a smaller car or a hybrid unit.

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IMHO, the OWV issue is overblowned. Nowadays, some will even blame wind noise on it

As for the overcranking, I'm not even certain if OWV is the cause. Some people already have their OWV replaced & yet the overcrank issue returned. I'm not a automotive engineer. What I next say is just my 2 cents. I have thus far only experienced overcrank on 2 occasions. Both times, the weather was cold and upon starting the engine, the built-in automatic choke revved the engine to quite a high rpm. I am thinking if the revs are high enough, the starter pinion might have not time to retract & avoid getting caught by the flywheel. Hence, the 'klak klak' overcrank sound we hear.

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Added on July 7, 2012, 1:01 pm@Dark Adam, I'm assuming your issue with the engine isn't resolved yet. Like to ask .. when each time it happens, was the engine very hot?

Was reading Exora thread at Autoworld forum and you may find the info pertinent > http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...3&#entry1827703

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 7 2012, 01:01 PM

No need to be harsh. I'm sure he meant the Paddle Shifter. No idea what Proton calls it.

If you're planning to get the CFE and if you don't mind waiting a bit more, I would advise you to momentarily delay the purchase.

Don't get me wrong. I'm an owner and I think this is a great car and a kickass purchase .... but owv is not the major issue at hand. IMHO, what's more worrying are cases like Dark_Adam's where brand new Preve/Exora CFE engines 'mati tengah jalan'.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 7 2012, 02:24 PM

Did you note the rpm on your tachometer when the overcrank occured? Was it high or was it low like under 1000 rpm?

Eh, wasn't it marverickng that just experience an overcrank in the afternoon? Anyway, thanks for letting me know your tachometer speed. The 2 times I had overcrank, the automatic choke revved to around 3K too. Seems a bit too high for me. Now if Proton wants to fix this, a relatively reprogram of the choke will fix this. No need for a 3N2D stay at SC to disassemble engine head.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 7 2012, 07:17 PM

Thanks for sharing. Everybody else, the next time you experience overcrank, please post back to tell what rev your tachometer is showing. If everyone is having an overly high rev, we can all go complain to Proton so that a re-program can be implemented.

Think your case may be different from the majority. Your's could truly be an OVW issue. Have a listen to these 2 sounds from youtube





Which sounds more like yours?

For accuracy sake, the correct answer is actually 3K rpm.

When doing the comparison, are the FC for the cars you mentioned real life results for the cars in KL traffic? Or are they just published results from the manufacturers? Do bear in mind that Preve CFE's published FC of 6.6 L/100km is achievable but nobody will drive like that in real life.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 8 2012, 01:34 PM

The orange light will be seen when you press the Start/Stop button without depressing the brake pedal. Orange indicates you have entered the "Acc" mode.

When you see orange, step on the brake and you shall see it turn to green. The color green indicates the car is ready for cranking.

"remove the key" appears because door is opened.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 8 2012, 08:29 PM

I was re-reading the manual and came across this interesting tidbit. Once the car is in motion, even if you accidentally press the Start/Stop button momentarily, the engine won't get switched off.

In the event of a real emergency where we really need to stop the engine even when the car is in motion, you can do any of the following:

• press and hold the Start/Stop button for 5 seconds
• Press and release Start/Stop button 5 times in a row.
• Rip out the ECU with your bare hands. j/k

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 8 2012, 08:40 PM

Apologies but please don't take this the wrong way but I'm not about to google for the info. If you have links, that may be helpful. Cars like Mercs, BMW or even the Golf GTI aren't currently within my scope to purchase. They may or may not be frugal in fuel consumption but the price of buying/maintaining such technological wonders, offsets any fuel savings.

I'm not here to defend nor attack Proton or any other car make. In the interest of the majority of this thread's readers, I think we should compare Preve with a car like the Civic where kerb weight, power/torque figures are closer. Looking at the figures from http://www.fuelly.com

http://www.fuelly.com/car/proton/preve vs http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/civic

Civic's average of 7.2 easily beats Preve's 9.6

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 8 2012, 08:45 PM

I won't say this unit is from Brothers is no good but from other parts of lyn forum, there's been many discussions of cheap imitation/inferior VS. I'm gonna have mine installed by this guy > http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1289791 . He gets a lot of good testimonials from clients. For the benefit of the others, after install && if you're willing, we can meet up and compare.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 9 2012, 10:18 AM