Stock Cooler Overclocking Results



Format:
Core speed * Mem frequency * Name * Revision * Mobo * RAM * CPU Voltage * CPU Temp at load

AMD

A64 Venice 3000+

1. 2754.4MHz * 229.5MHz - kingmaker_20 * E3 LBBLE 0522 FPBW * DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D * Twinmos SP PC3500 1x512 * 1.456V * 52C
2. 2700MHz * 245MHz * ahpaul82 * E3 LBBLE 0516 CPBW * DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D * Corsair XMS3200PRO 512MBx2 * 1.616V * 53C
3. 2662.6MHz * 242.1MHz - newbieockids * E6 * DFI NF4 Infinity * Gskill TCCD * 1.568V
4. 2601.3MHz * 289.0MHZ - Penjejak awan * E3 LBBLE 0522 cphw * DFI nf4 ultra-d * 2x512MB OCZ tccd elite edition * 1.632V * 51C
5. 2600.3MHz * 185.7MHz - kanethesun * E6 * DFI NF4 Infinity * KVR DDR400 512x2 * 1.568V
6. 2526.4Mhz * 229.7Mhz - zogenk * E3 LBBLE 0519 BPHW * DFI Infinity NF4 Ultra * KVR DDR400 512x2 * 1.488V * 33C
7. 2520Mhz * 229.1Mhz - snif * E6 LBBWE 0542 GPFW * MSI K8N Neo2 * Mushkin 256x2 * 1.420V * 42C
8. 2501.8MHz * 250.2MHz - x800 * E3 * MSI Neo4 Platinum * KVR DDR400 256x4 * 1.5V
9. 2443.2MHz * 222.1MHz - CoffeeDude * E6 LBBWE 0542 EPHW* DFI NF4 Infinity * KVR DDR400 1GBx2 * 1.472V * 47C
10. 2443.2Mhz * 135.7Mhz - lonewolf * E6 * DFI NF4 Ultra Infinity * Team Xtreem DT-D43 512x2 * 1.504V * 45C
11. 2120 MHz * 235.6MHz - Garfie * E6 * DFI LP UT NF3 ULTRA-D * K. Hyper-X DDR400 256x2 * 1.408V * 49C
12.



A64 Venice 3200+

1. 2800.7MHz * 233.4MHz - tAmp0i * E3 * DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D * 2x 256MB KVR PC2700 * 1.48V * 44C
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A64 X2 3800+
1. 2557.6MHz * 232.5MHZ * sina8687 * E6 CCBWE 0543 TPMW * ASUS A8NE * 2x512MB Corsair VS * 1.408V * 54C
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INTEL

Prescott 2.40Ghz
1. 3808.6Ghz * 211.6Mhz * nelza_ax * rev E0 * Abit IS7-E2G * KVR 512 DT-d43 x1 * 1.344V * 66.5C
2.
3.

This post has been edited by CoffeeDude: Mar 29 2006, 08:19 AM

Which A64??isit 3000+?3200+??
And all depends on week/good clocking chip.

In my case 3200+ on stock cooling will do 2.55 GHz 1.55v prime stable. But whenever I increase the vcore, let's say 1.65v, my proc will only do 2.5GHz. Strange? Not really. Whenever you increase vcore, heat goes up. Because of that overclocking capability is seriously degraded. So I have to find a sweet spot between maximising clock speed and vcore. As you see, there is no way to get a maximum potential on stock cooling. Therefore it's advisable that you consider something better.

ermm... mayb around 30% extra wif stock?

add a ninja n u can do 50<

Let's consider A64venice. As we know it is based on the same core whatever the rating given, 3200+ or 3500+. So basically what happen is, when you overclock most of the time both will reach a typical peak value. So you can't say for 3200+ overclocks less than 3500+. If both are good batch procs they will hit exactly the same peak limit let's say 2.9 GHz. So in terms of percentage 3200+ is better than 3500+. To me, percentage is not a good way of making a distinction between both procs.

Hio, How to know which proc having good week. Now new AMD proc will be E4.

If no good week can oc how high?

From wat i have read, 40%++ is possible because it depends alot on ur luck too. a very decent overclock indeed for a free cooler.

Does anybody have some actual results with screenshots?

redken,
40% on stock cooler??? Are you sure?
Thats extra 720Mhz on my 1800Mhz proc.

I have added something on the first post. Check it out.

that's 2.52ghz on stock cooler, dont think that'll be a problem even for mine
especially for those nice steppings that do 3ghz on air (not stock of course)

soulfly, good idea.
But as I'm a noob in this area, can someone help to maintain the statistics?

We will assist you in maintaining the stats by giving opinions and suggestions. Well, you can always refer to AMD64 OC database for statistics format.

is it true ?what the stepping BN or..?got 3000+?which shop can get 1?

This post has been edited by jiant: Jan 15 2006, 09:22 PM

most problem od a64 occuring when oc is the proc too hot.
when using stock the most i can do is 250.
using 3rd party cooler i found out tat it need only stock vcore to do 250...

Please update the first post if you have done overclocking on stock cooling

wah...need 8 hour for post result only.if using stock cooler only,i think we ca see result only 1-2 hour for know that proc stable or not.

i folding with 2.43ghz
never crash b4
when go to 2.5ghz, sometimes will crash
if going for 2.6 and above, confirm crash after afew minutes of fullload
stock cooling tho

Hi, my AMD 939 3200 proc => CDBHE 0540. How to know this is under good week or poor week?

burn it 1st, and u'll know either it is good week or not..

Athlon64 3000+ (Venice) * MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum * 1GB KVR BT-D43 * 1.5V * 2.5Ghz

Screenie Link

This post has been edited by x800: Jan 18 2006, 03:48 PM

x800,
hopefully you'll be the 1st.

I can't do mine at the moment as I'm on an overseas business trip.

yup,

fully agree, tat would be a wealth of info for those who purchased the more recent batch of CPU e.g. LBBWE 0542 etc. most already know those LBBLE 0517 supa CPU's. just wondering wuts the o/c potential of these newer batches.

good luck to the rest of guys & happy o/cing

cheers,

of SP2004 8 hours is too long..why not cut it down to 2 hours

2 hours is not enough to determine stability, even 8 hours is also not enough but the guys over DFI-STREET use 8 hours for their database

Here is mine.

anybody know some details about AMD64 heatsink fan?..
max/min rpm, max/min airflow etc?..

adding mine..

AMD64 3000+ Venice * DFI NF4 Infinity * Gskill TCCD * 1.52V * 2615.6MHZ

wah..so long ar....stock cooling for 8 hours...scarry man

Updated rankings. Keep it up.

Please also update your own rankings in future as this is a public forum.

Thank You.

good job newbieockids...... 2.6ghz on stock cooling not bad

my results already updated in my earlier post since yesterday..

Sorry I missed that one, but please update your own results on the 1st post.

thanx bro.. but im curious bout my temp.. dunno whether it accurate or not..
i dun think stock fan really good for dat temp displayed by smartguardian..

not sure about that....

but which Gskill series do u have?

Hi, can modify the reporting format as

Name * % Increase * Processor * Mobo * RAM * Voltage * OC speed * CPU temperature idle * CPU Temperature load

ok np thanx.. it is F1-3200DSU2-1GBLF..

idle temperature is not important because the result would be almost the same even for aftermarket cooler.

Hi, temperature idle is to indicate starting point. Some mobo having higher temperature due to it provide wrong reading. So just a indicator or base temperature.

well....I'd say it's up to the thread starter whether he wants to include those temp readings in the database. In my opinion, that would just increase the entry length and it will look like a 'yada-yada' entry.

The purpose of this thread is actually to find max overclocking, that's why idle temperature was never been a concern. But then again.... it's up to you guys.

agreed.. temp doesnt matter as long as ur system is stable with maximum OC and the most important thing with stock cooling..



im going to mod my heatsink fan voltage to 17V..
after dat am i still qualified to post he result CoffeeDude?..

This post has been edited by newbieockids: Jan 19 2006, 11:08 PM

me thinks your temps are under-reported
still a nice proc there, not getting a Ninja?

im not afford to buy it.. but im still happy with the stock heatsink..
for the smartguard, well they read everything else perfectly.. suddenly thinking to touch the heatsink, just a little warm.. guess it correct edi..
not like the nb fan..

i just checked my fan model of the stock hsf, and here are the details that i get from delta's site:

Model: AFB0712HHB
Operating Voltage: 4.0 - 13.8 V
Current: 0.26 A
Power: 3.12 W
Max Speed: 4300 RPM
Max Airflow: 37.54 CFM
Noise: 38.5 dB-A

looks like if u wan to mod ur fan to 17V can potentially harm it..

Hi, I have changed the format to include temps. But I would say it is not a requirement.

And I would also like to clarify that I don't own this thread. I would prefer to go with general consensus.

newbieockids, I think a modded fan would still qualify. I'm not sure

My purpose of starting this thread is to find out how capable is the stock cooling. And I can see now that stock cooling is enough if I my aim is to run a Venice 3000+ at 2.5Ghz. If I want more than that I'd better go for aftermarket coolers.

thanx for the info mate.. i really appreciate it.. well i guess i need to check out the fan model 1st same like u do.. the thought just pass my mind("terlintas di fikiran" i hope it translated correctly ) after reading this article --> here

well dude, its all depend to the processor itself, and maybe ur luck too.. if u're lucky, u'll got a highly overclockable one, so the stock heatsink will b enough for them.. if u're not, u'll get the crap one, even if u buy some hardware for a better cooling solution, i believe the result will gain a little bit but it still not good if compared to ur investment for that cooling solution.. n yeah, googling some info about the procs stepping before u buying it, at least will give u any hope/chances to get one highly overclockable one in ur hand..

Well explained there.
Stepping/week plays major role in Clocking.
Good week will get higher clock.
$hit week will give $hit stepping even watever HSf applied.

qualified entry will be selected to enter the new S-939 oc database

requirements:
- 8hrs prime stable + cpu-z
- include cpu voltage, stepping & cooling method

for the time being, i can only select x800's result because he had his stepping in his sig.

still waiting for the stepping from the rest

40% Increase * tAmp0i * Athlon 64 3200+ Rev E3 * DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D * 2x 256MB KVR PC2700 * Vcore - 1.48v * OC Speed - 2800MHz * Idle - 34C * Load - 44C

i just want to ask, is prime 95 instead of sp2004 ok with u all? if can i'll be posting my results up here...

its just the same.. np with me dunno bout others..

Not a problem with me too.

Everybody is welcome

This post has been edited by CoffeeDude: Jan 21 2006, 11:40 AM

wookie...still tweaking my new proc + mobo...

have a 3000+ venice E6 and a dfi lanparty ut nf3 ultra-d s939 mobo...so far hit 2.4ghz on 1.475vcore and 2.7vdimm running divider (166mhz).

will post screenies when i finished tweaking with it...

yay welcome to the club dude..

awww, stepping a, is it the only way to see on top of the proc?


This post has been edited by kanethesun: Jan 21 2006, 06:42 PM

a big probably i can say is yes..


me too so lazy wanna take it out yet

This post has been edited by newbieockids: Jan 21 2006, 11:11 PM

ya...that's the only way

since you guys are overclockers, at least you should check what stepping did u get when you buy your processor. if possible, check all the available stocks for the best steppings (refer to the databases on the net for good steppings)... can see thru the box mah. not just buy buy like that. rugi lor....

ahh, I'm newbie.
hehe, just got it straight from PCZONE a, that time just worried will get Venice or Winchester only.
erm, dont have any thermal paste now, so cant open the HSF and see.
Is it a must to apply back thermal paste after pull out the HSF?
hehe, my AXP I did last time didnt apply any on it

Now still can choose AMD processor meh? I think the processor are choosing the owner now.

Btw, where to refer the good stepping forum? I'm the latest stepping also include.

This post has been edited by mynewuser: Jan 21 2006, 10:35 PM

Finally did mine



35.7% OC * CoffeeDude * Venice E6 3000+ * DFI NF4 Infinity * KVR DDR400 1GBx2 * 1.472V * 2443.2Mhz * Load - 47C

Additional info:
Sandra memory benckmark - 6302 MB/s
RAM timings - 2.5-3-3-7
CPU stepping - LBBWE 0542EPHW

This post has been edited by CoffeeDude: Jan 23 2006, 09:47 PM

Take note: Format has been changed.

Refer to 1st post.

dude u totally max out at 270fsb?.. ur temp still look good.. pump up the vcore summore n see how it goes..

I mananged to boot into WinXP @ 290x9, but SP2004 failed. (sad)
However I did manage to run Sandra memory benchmark.

Afraid to pump vcore too high, dowan to burn my new processor.

whats the max temp for the processor?..50c?

55 n below is still in the safe range..
correct me if im wrong..

This post has been edited by newbieockids: Jan 23 2006, 03:10 PM

coffeedude, you're running at 5:4 or 0.8 divider rite? interesting...shall try it out tonite using your settings coz mine also KVR and 3000+ venice too.

i know i know, each cpu is diff. might try it out

I'm running at 6:5 divider. I call it 200/166.

Unfortunately DFI NF4 Infinity don't have 200/180 divider. Else I'd tried it.

there's 6:5?? iinm, in the bios settins, there's only 0.8 or ddr333 above 1:1 which is 5:4

nairud bro.. try flash to the latest bios.. got the 6:5 option there..

no la. it can tahan more than that. check your BIOS for the "shutdown temperature" la.

i would try to keep it below 50c.

here is mine....


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haven't get to update / check version i'm using. Damn antivirus giving me prob...cannot support Auto repair out of nowhere. now disabled my network already...too dangerous. can't go online at home to dl new bios

Can someone recommend a good bios for my board (DFI NF4 Infinity)?

tks

woot welcome to stock heatsink club bro..

cepat2 fix that prob n join us bro..

my current version/date 4.XX/12/01/2004 so far no prob at all..
but i believe nf4 infinity board dun have much issue with their bios.. only the latest got some minor improvent such as cpu current clock speed will be shown at boot page and some option in dram config(divider)..

did you guys enable CnQ in bios?
just read one post from xtremesystem, some forummer said that its not recommend to enable CnQ if overclocking.
below is the link, post #29
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...?t=79509&page=2

ya you should disable them..

ohh, will disable later.
newbieockids do you know what is the negative effetcs if enable CnQ and OC?

Satability, reliability and potential overclock seriously degraded.

if u enable the CnQ.. the fan will spin in lower rpm(quite mode).. thats why it is not recommended whenever u oc the procs.. assuming that u've raised the vcore, so the procs temp going high but ur fan still running at lower speed with CnQ enable..

ohh, thanks for PCcrazy and newbieockids for the explanation

Not really, if you enabled the CnQ, only the multiplier will change. It has got nothing to do with the fan. The fan can be set manually by you. At idle load, multi x5 is activated and at full load it will return to the multi that you have previously set in BIOS.

Mind you it's only recommended if your system is not stable. In my case running CnQ even at 270 HTT is completely stable. So I can overclock my system at the same time saving the electricity.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Jan 25 2006, 08:09 PM

ic.. dunno either it is coincidence or not, coz last time when i enable the CnQ to see what happen while in 280HTT, the fan wouldnt surpass 3000rpm at full load.. beside, from the name itself, i assume the processor running "Cool"-->lower temp == lower volt(power consumption) 'n' "Quite"-->lower rpm fan == noiseless.. thanx for correcting me bro..

neway, im wonderring how does it saving the electricity as u said?.. by stabilize the multi so the HT will running in stable?..

Nope, I see that you are getting confused over here my friend. When idling, not only the multi will dropped, vcore will dropped as well. Say that at full load setup gives a reading of 2.6 GHz @ 1.6v, at idle because of dropping the multi and vcore your new reading would be 1.2 GHz @ 1.2v.

yeah i misunderstood u bro.. i tot the 5x multi u said b4 was HT frequency..
got it rite now..

Does CnQ drop the Vcore together with the Vdimm?

a big probably not i may say coz its designed for the procs..
neway its too risk for the procs with CnQ enable when the Vcore drop, but the Vdimm stand still.. so its always better to disable the CnQ.. correct me if im wrong guyz..

ARGHHH!
my OC ain't stable...*sniff* prime and occt and memtest86+ passed, but it hangs during processing

my bet is on my enlight 420w psu...guess it ain't supplying enuff juice since i OC my gc too....oh well, CNY's coming. any nice + cheap + good psu to recommend ar?

no cap ayam psu or icute aka akucomel psu yah....tqtq

Provided the vdimm is not at SPD default, then I would say don't take a chance. Hey, we are overclockers, CnQ? What's that anyway.

hehe. i OC but try to get things run CnQ .........well......... more like just Q. haha. i like things silent.

edited : i'm not referring to the AMD's CnQ feature la

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 26 2006, 09:26 PM

Wait for dinster's fortron bluestorm bulk open once again.. that is the best one to invest on.. stability vs performance vs price is really3x great.. highly recommended in most of OC forum.. adjustable rails, u can simply adjust the 12V,5V n especially 3.3V rail at the pot available inside.. but if u're not on SLI..

Seriously i dunno nothing bout it b4.. By most of my reading, this thing was always highlighted in 1st place, so i never enable it even on stock..

This post has been edited by newbieockids: Jan 26 2006, 11:39 PM

At stock setting and CnQ enabled

Temps at idle


Temps at load


I noticed at even at stock settings, the temps at load is just a few degrees less than at OC speeds.


sidenote: My Smartguardian's readings is really weird. Even at idle, it reports CPU temp at 47c and the settings in Options are greyed out.

wah ur fan rpm even surpass 4k.. mine the highest ever was 3600 only..
one more thing, software reading is always inaccurate..

This post has been edited by newbieockids: Jan 27 2006, 08:30 PM

eh wanna ask, isit normal to have 40c system temp? i overclocked my amd 3000+ abit untill 2.4ghz

what do u mean by system?.. ur procs or mobo?.. n which mobo did u use?..