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 Clevo P150EM review, aka Sager NP9150

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post Jun 21 2012, 10:13 PM, updated 14y ago

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This is just a short review of Horize Clevo P150EM that I just received yesterday and kinda huge jump for me that coming from 4 years old Dell laptop to the specs as below: rclxms.gif

Intel i7 3610QM
AMD 7970M 2GB GDDR5
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
95% Gamut Glossy FHD Display
Crucial M4 256GB SSD
Backlit keyboard
and some other basic stuff.
Total is AUD$1790 including $30 postage

How does it look/feel? Simple and rubberized design with horrible and FUGLY logo. The design is similar with Sager NP9150 but is just the logo different and some China brand feel (Clevo is from Taiwan anyway lol). Bad thing about rubberized design is that it easily attracts oil mark. My face is a bit oily and it will leave some mark on the laptop but it's easy to wipe them off though. The speed is fast, very fast! Thanks to SSD and maybe Ivy Bridge processor? Cold boot up time is within 17 seconds and my dell laptop took few minutes to get me on the screen. Now I don't need worry about updating windows which need me to reboot the computer to make changes.
Benchmark of my SSD:
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Picture of the laptop.
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And the freaking big power brick. I thought my old dell is big enough but this one seriously looks like a real brick size.. sweat.gif
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Keyboard:
It feels quite good when I'm typing with it but I still not used to the laptop with numpad beside and the size of keyboard is shorten to fit numpad in. There is no dedicated button for Home and End buttons(registered with numpad 7 and 1) which I always use as well. Also the numpad 1 doesn't register properly and I need to press harder to make it works. Not sure if I can fix it by myself but I already email my reseller about it.
The backlit keyboard looks awesome an colorful but it looks a bit "ah beng/lala" for me? Maybe because of the keyboard color doesn't suit the lightnings(compare with macbooks) but better than nothing right? tongue.gif

Backlit time!
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Touchpad:
The touchpad is rubberized too and kinda hard to scroll around but don't think it does matter since you need a mouse to gaming right? My model doesn't come with fingerprint reader unlike US model(they demand fingerprint reader) because this model come direct from Taiwan (who is a country that does not use fp).
The buttons are good to press too.

Screen quality:
Moving from HD to FHD display really need some time to get used to it but so far I love it. The display color is vivid and beautiful (can I put Samsung Galaxy S 3 display as example? tongue.gif ). No dead pixel so far(thank god). The bezel around the screen is glossy as well and looks like a cheap glossy plastic there + the ugly Horize logo. yuck...
Tried to watch 1080p and original video from Youtube and it looks awesome. Again, the color is so vivid.

GPU performance?
Just tested it on Max Payne 3 with everything maxed out and the average FPS is around 75-80. No lag, stuttering, slow, crash,etc. Highest temperature is 82c but only for few seconds then it went back down to average 70c. The fan is so noisy and can be on par with my 4 years old CM Notepal cooling pad tongue.gif
I will try Diablo 3 when I can find the cheapest price :/

Benchmark in 3dMark Vantage is around 20500(kinda low compare to others) but I only ran for 1 time. Maybe I should try few more times.
I don't have benchmark score for 3dMark 2011 as I don't have the license for full version. Basic version only run in HD resolution so there is no point for me to test it.

So, overall not bad for me and I just need to fix that damn numpad and hope AMD can provide better driver support for 7970m.

EDIT: Forgot to mention about sound quality tongue.gif
But there is nothing to talk about. The sound quality is normal compare with other laptops and I just don't understand why they place the subwoofer below the laptop that don't really do anything. I can't feel the bass but I have cheap Logitech speaker to replace it though.

This post has been edited by hihihehe: Jun 22 2012, 08:19 AM
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post Jun 22 2012, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(girugaga86 @ Jun 22 2012, 12:35 AM)
good review bruh  haha seems like everything is all good cept for the logo eh?
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and the stupid numpad button 1. awaiting for reseller reply

QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jun 22 2012, 12:36 AM)
Grats on your purchase!
Love your review, easy to understand plus some personal touch! ^____^

I think the laptop looks quite nice (apart from the weird logo, that is), very conservative and non-attention-grabbing thumbup.gif

Mind sharing some temperature SS bro?
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thank you. i forgot to take the picture of back cover slapped with huge logo. i tried to "wipe" it off with my finger nail and it get scratched a little bit (see how desperate am i to get rid of that logo)

i will take screenshot in max payne 3(using msi afterburner) later when the graphic is stressing out.

QUOTE(jimmykvt @ Jun 22 2012, 12:41 AM)
OH YEA!!! First backlit keyboard on Sager/Clevo laptop!

How I wish I can have one. Good for typing in the dark
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still finding chance to try in the dark.weekend is the best time!! brows.gif

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 22 2012, 12:55 AM)
Congratz on your purchase man. 

latest Catalyst beta 8.981 support 7970M, maybe you can try that driver. thumbup.gif
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im looking for latest beta/modded driver but first need to get more good feedback first

QUOTE(SKY233 @ Jun 22 2012, 02:02 AM)
wow.. powderful lappie .. love the keyboard biggrin.gif
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go grab one!

QUOTE(Uchiha_Itachi1991 @ Jun 22 2012, 02:12 AM)
Nice laptop and review....damn jeolous about 7970M..XD superb for gaming...
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i believe so. tempted with gtx680m but the price a bit sweat.gif
hard to fork out $300 just for 5-10% improvement unless i have money printer

QUOTE(mrkenn @ Jun 22 2012, 03:20 AM)
I check from here: http://www.illegear.com/sager/16-sager-np9150.html

GTX 670M add rm 630 to get AMD 7970M. Wow.

U played max payne 3 at 1920x1080 with highest settings right? still get 70 - 80 fps wow that's very powerful.

Max payne's requirement actually quite high one...sth like battlefield 3.

GENG!

Btw, where did u buy your lappie from? around 5.8k rm?
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yes, settings maxed with FHD resolution and highest AA but most people say i dont need that high AA for FHD laptop. is that true?
the price from gtx670m to 7970m sounds right. it cost me $199 to jump from 670m to 7970m

i like max payne too(completed 1 and 2). the graphic is just awesome especially with 95% gamut display. so vibrant
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 22 2012, 03:31 AM)
^ for 680M need to add RM 1,559. laugh.gif

over >RM900 more for a mere 10%-20% bump.
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yes, doesn't sound convincing even though i am nvidia fans

QUOTE(Amal @ Jun 22 2012, 06:40 AM)
Damn poison la this 7970M!  sweat.gif

Was thinking of buying ultrabook/lightweight laptop for work and replace my current NP8150 with a desktop.

Now thinking of buying ultrabook/lightweight laptop for work and upgrade my current NP8150 with a 7970M(RM16xx - RM18xx).

At least can bring my NP8150 when balik kampung.  tongue.gif

Btw, good review there bro!  thumbup.gif
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thank you
will add more comments once i fully explored the laptop

QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 22 2012, 06:53 AM)
If you don't like rubberize surface, you can put carbon fiber sticker to cover the palmrest and touchpad. smile.gif
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actually i prefer everything stock(without modification,etc) or maybe i just lazy to do everything..lol
touchpad not really concern me cause i have razer mouse to get over it

i just need to familiar myself with keyboard layout. always accidentally pressed spacebar when i want to press alt key
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post Jun 22 2012, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Uchiha_Itachi1991 @ Jun 22 2012, 09:21 AM)
definitely not worth it...7970M is great enuf...
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correct unless they just within $150 difference. now is up to amd driver to optimize this little monster
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post Jun 22 2012, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 22 2012, 09:42 AM)
nice maaan. congratulation for the awesome laptop biggrin.gif

n sweet backlit, try do color mixing n post up please biggrin.gif
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i thought i posted that in 1st post? it only allows me to mix 3 different colors in 1 time

maybe i should take short video of color mixing when i get back? lol
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post Jun 22 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 22 2012, 11:24 AM)
oh... the pictures wasnt load probably. its cool now. lolz SWEET JEALOUSSSSSS  cry.gif
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i can set the light to glowing,tempo,mix,etc too but it's just a gimmick lol
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post Jun 22 2012, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jun 22 2012, 11:32 AM)
Nice backlit! Now I feel like change my old Sager already.
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you selling sager so it's not that hard for you right? brows.gif

QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 22 2012, 11:39 AM)
one common flaw about u and my model. no next track/previous track for music player short cut  cry.gif

which is, i always use that often
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spot on! guess this laptop is not for multimedia use and more to gaming purposes only?

is like there is no dedicated Home and End button which is always use when viewing website
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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 22 2012, 12:43 PM)
there are dedicated home and end button as long as u didnt active the numpad.

yeah... this is indeed for gaming only. not for music. but THX is awesomely boost up the performance of my 2.1 speakers!!!  rclxm9.gif
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yeah.trade off with each other :/

QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 22 2012, 12:52 PM)
want better audio performance, buy external sound card. tongue.gif
Onboard sound card is not good enough.
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better sound card need better speaker too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 22 2012, 08:08 PM)
This model is exactly the one that I been eyeing since a week ago.

Will decide once back to Malaysia this July.
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you already decided don't you? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 22 2012, 10:30 PM)
And the answer is?
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the model you eyeing
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post Jun 23 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 23 2012, 05:23 AM)
Yes, the jagness of line will blend itself once you set the resolution of the game the same with your native screen resolution.

AA should significantly help if you play game with lesser resolution compared to the original screen resolution.
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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 23 2012, 09:54 AM)
just switch off AA. we dont need AA if we running it in FHD.

then it will running smooth-ie/er  biggrin.gif
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i switched AA to the lowest (2x) and the display looks much more better. I tried latest beta driver and the FPS reading not accurate. Need to reinstall the driver again rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 23 2012, 05:37 PM)
Roughly how much is the FPS different between AA enable and AA disable? hmm.gif
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not much difference.maybe 2-3 fps but highest AA make the screen to blur and bright
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 23 2012, 07:04 PM)
Please play Battlefield and provide review here wub.gif
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i don't have the game lol..i will think about it

weird,i updated the driver to latest beta and the fps keep hovering around 60fps in max payne hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 23 2012, 08:13 PM)
Already disable Vsync?
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nope, it's in low with AA. could be the driver issue but the temp just around 70c
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im not sure whether im an unlucky one but there is a black spot suddenly appear at top right screen.

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seems like i need to send back the laptop to them. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 25 2012, 12:46 AM)
This is scary sad.gif
Anyway, how is your matte screen? How much is the different between normal laptop screen with yours?
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nope mine is glossy screen as i prefer the vibrant display and the laptop always stay indoor.

QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 25 2012, 01:49 AM)
CALL THEM! EMAIL THEM! SPAM THEM! SEND THEM THIS PICTURE!!!!

this is what i did when i got freaking blue screenssss. and then they do everything for me.

btw, i think they got 90 days screen/pixel guaranty. therefore, ACT FAST!!!!
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did that last night and they will arrange courier to pick it up. they assume it could be damaged during courier transit as the numpad 1 and the black spot are near with each other.

that means i can't play with it for another week sad.gif

lucky i finished Max Payne 3 last night tongue.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 8:04 am
QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 25 2012, 03:50 AM)
Is it a common problem for Sager? I never heard Alienware had such problem since Mothership V1. Its scary sad.gif
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more likely i am the unlucky one because i can't find this same issue in google. sad.gif

btw, i always have some issue with online shopping :/

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 25 2012, 10:06 AM)
good good... may the force be with you.
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since they most likely will replace the whole screen, should i change to matte display? hmm.gif

glossy not really a concern for me but i read that matte screen is beautiful as well
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but i prefer 95% gamut even though the difference is minimal tongue.gif
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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 25 2012, 03:28 PM)
well, i'm using my external screen n rarely use my laptop screen. so matte or glossy wasnt my concern. i only use my laptop screen for msn (playing games still manage to read every each msg).

but what i can tell u is, the glossy reflection quite serious. i can see my face on the screen. lolz


Added on June 25, 2012, 1:31 pm

in every each colors (red, blue, green, black, cyan, etc etc) there are 255 density (0 density of black is white, 100~200 is grey, 255 is black)

95% means, ur screen can display 95% of all the color densities. it is very high. if no mistaken, normal TV jus manage to generate 65% gamut color.
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hmm. i don't have matte screen before(except the workplace monitor) and i'm fine with glossy. i'm not sure if i like matte more as my primary computer hmm.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 2:08 pmalright, they gonna arrange courier to pick up my laptop tomorrow and it will take at least a week..grrr

can't believe i need to use back my old laptop(which is working super fine). oh well, shit happens sometime

hope there will be no issue after the warranty.

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QUOTE(skeith @ Jun 25 2012, 05:10 PM)
save ur money n go eat some good food with ur darling better lar biggrin.gif

btw, i dont know much about "anti-glare" thing. at least, my samsung LED is wide angle view, no reflection = no worries.

but in color-wise, my laptop screen more "vibrant" then my LED.
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i already reserved some money just for her brows.gif

guess your monitor is matte and thats why u can see more vibrant color in your glossy laptop screen

looking back at my old laptop booting up is so painful. i can do many things while waiting to boot up..lol
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 23 2012, 07:04 PM)
Please play Battlefield and provide review here wub.gif
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alright i played 5 minute of Battlefield 3(train scene) with everything maxed and im getting average 48-50fps with temp up to 90c shocking.gif
that's with latest beta driver which has been reported increase FPS

many people in notebookreview reported the GPU is not fully loaded but MSI afterburner showed 99% of GPU usage.


Added on June 26, 2012, 7:27 amalso tried NFS:The Run and FPS is just below 30fps with gpu load under 50%. hmm.gif

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