upgraded my PC from 8GB ram to 16GB.

How come the ram i newly bought looks so much difference than the old one? both Kingston brand.

Icic. I searched around on Shopee I can only find the RAM I bought and it is the cheapest DDR4 2133MHz I can find.

Is the so called office type of value ram sold anywhere that I can buy at even cheaper price?

my motherboard is H110M-K. and I am using i5-7500 processor. so technically it can support up to 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM.

My existing ram is 8GB 2133MHz. if i want to upgrade to 16GB, should I buy 2400MHz instead? I know that the maximum speed supported will be 2133MHz since the old one is 2133MHz only. However, if I buy 2400MHz, it will be better if the old 2133MHz spoiled which I can just buy another 2400MHz to have higher speed rite?

do 2400MHz vs 2133MHz make noticeable difference in performance?

besides, i cannot enable XMP in the BIOS although on the spec of the motherboard stated that it supports that. why is it so?


2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR4 2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory *
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* Due to Intel® chipset limitation, DDR4 2400MHz memory frequency is only supported by 7th Generation Intel® processors.

https://www.asus.com/my/motherboards-compon...10m-k/techspec/


This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 30 2023, 09:37 AM

is it cheaper by a lot?

thanks a lot for the explanation.

actually the price of the 2400MHz and 2133MHz is the same at rm71 for the shoppe shop i bought from.
in fact 2133MHz, 2400MHz, 2666MHz all same price at rm71 while 3200MHz is only rm1 more at rm72.

1) that's why i am kind of regret now not to buy the higher speed one. it is stated that my motherboard can support up to 2400MHz of RAM, so my question is that if I put in a 3200MHz ram, will it even recognise but work at lower speed of 2400MHz? or it will just simply not working at all?

2) understood that 2400MHz vs 2133MHz the improvement will be minor. since my old ram does not support XMP, if i buy another 2133MHz ram now that supports XMP like the new one i bought. how much performance more i can probably get by doing so?

3) yeah, you are rite, RAM hardly fail. probably my motherboard spoiled first before it failed. in fact, my motherboard was having problem just 2 weeks back which it cannot be powered on. i brought to a computer shop to fix it at the price of rm100. luckily it can be fixed, else i may need to change a new motherboard which will certainly cost much more.
so kingston RAM is actually lifetime warranty? but i suppose if kingston no longer sells my model of ram, even it has lifetime warranty, it is not going to help in this case rite? which means they will not replace a RAM for me?

4) besides, may i know if there is any other brand that is better than kingston but at similar or just slightly higher pricing also that can be considered?

i bought from a shopee buyer and they said they give local warranty (1 year).
price i paid is RM65.90 including shipping with all the discounts (vouchers).
noticed that the model is no longer selling officially as it is old. but the item i received looks brand new maybe this is the old stock.

is the price above 'normal' or 'reasonable' price for the model and brand of RAM i bought?

i think i will just stick to the current setup. anyway, my PC is old already. no point to spend further $$ on it.

I upgrade to 16GB from the previous 8GB because I tot that it may help in performance but so far i realise my use case may not be able to utilise much on the extra 8GB.

but it is noticed that the shared GPU ram now shows only 8GB. could not remember the amount before i upraded to 16GB. but i guess it means the shared GPU never increase even the RAM is 16GB now. probably this is the limitation of the graphic card that it only utilises 8GB out of the available 16GB.





This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 30 2023, 06:13 PM

ic. so i guess it is the hardware limitation of the graphic card that it can only utilise up to 8GB from 50% of the shared RAM pool.

anyway, given the price of the RAM, i think it is refurbished one. although the seller told me it is brand new.
appearance wise it looks brand new though. no scratches etc.

This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 30 2023, 06:40 PM

this one? it means it is manufactured in week 18 year 2023?
how come there is no serial no.




This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 30 2023, 06:59 PM

bought from shopee buyer. not sure.

anyone can confirm? it has no serial no as well.

i installed the newly bought RAM from shopee on the slot shown below. is it considered slot 1 or slot 2?

at least the part no like u said looks the same as my old no?

i am not sure if the old one is in slot 1 or slot 2. but i guess below one should be my old RAM.



the new 8GB ram i bought it from a shoppe seller. seems like i kena conned?



This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 30 2023, 09:02 PM

to be fair, like u said, the new ram is working which it is recognised in windows 10 and i had used the Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool and it shows no error.

what other memtest i can do?

yes, the black one is the new one i got from shopee. the shopee seller claimed that it is brand new and not even refurbished.

my main concern now is that if it is not even genuine kingston ram but counterfeit instead.
if yes, i would rather refund it. so i need to really confirm if it is genuine.
if it is not genuine kingston ram but really a fake one. it may work now but sooner or later it will fail i guess.
the warranty of this new ram is also not lifetime, but it is 1 year warranty by the seller. so this is also fishy.

is there any other way i can really prove if this ram is genuine or not?

this is it... how to tell if it is counterfeit or not?

it has no part no, no manufacturer. similar to what cpu-z shows.
it supposed to support XMP, obviously it does not = counterfeit??



this one is my existing one. looks more genuine.



This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 1 2023, 12:17 AM

found this.

https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/memory-p...-number-decoder

does this able to help to identify if a kingston is real or fake?

is it fall under this category?

memtest64?

If it is really counterfeit, even it is cheap, I will not accept. Somemore like u said, the real one probably only cost rm100 which is just a little bit more.

Yes. Thanks for the advice. I already requested for refund. Will use the Shopee service to return the item. Hope they do not make any funny thing for my return.

someone posted this online. seems like the part no of the new ram i bought from shopee online is also having similar part no.



This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 3 2023, 02:43 PM

but on the kingston website i found this datasheet that matches the part no of the new ram i bought from shopee.

does it in any case shows some chance that the ram is not fake?

https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX421C14FB2_8.pdf