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cstkl1
post Apr 29 2008, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 19 2008, 12:09 AM)
I want to rant something here.

My argument is: Are Corsair Value Select DDR2 rams really suck?

Yeah... so much on the "reliable, qualified, tested, compatible" claimed by Corsair. Here I have 3 brand new Corsair Value Select DDR2, and only one of it is working. I have 3 pc in the house (unfortunately all of them are AMD) and none of them boot with these 2 stupid rams. I've checked with all three motherboards website regarding memory compatibility issue and none of them listed CVS. But somehow, one RAM does work without any hiccup...so I take that the compatiblity test wasn't really accurate. Tomorrow I'm gonna go over my friend's place to test on his Intel.

Since I'm talking about DDR2, I have never had any single problem with Kingston Value RAM and Crucial.

My suggestion here: Beware careful of Corsair Value Select...they're expensive for nothing.
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hmmm

the spd timings works the rams are throughly tested by random batches

the problem with compatibility is the motherboard bios and voltages

thats ure issue...

and i suggest using windows mem diagnostic test...
much better than memtest86

out of 11 times i ran in the last one month

WMDT picked up errors that memtest86 didnt 4 out of 11 times..
a few ppl already noticed this and WMDT is about 95 percent chance u will get OCCT stable on ure NB and MEM with the assumption ure vcore settings were also correct.

just curious name the exact ram with link if possible
with the mobo system in question.

personally i always go kingston for any non-oc setup..
laptops, my dell office rig, my htpc..
they always work and rma time is less than 2 weeks and they have a fully support office in lowyat plaza..
which is y i recommend to a lot of ppl who are buying quaddies Q6600 and want to OC them to 400bus.. get the kingston hyperx PC2-6400 CL4 LL..
they work very well at rated specs. and arent hot, and i have been running them for nearly 2 years at almost 24/7 on my htpc / torrent rig without any issue.


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post Nov 11 2008, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Nov 11 2008, 12:35 AM)
did i post here in regards to your query? i think my post kena deleted  laugh.gif

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if ur current 2x1gb adata able to run cl4, then it's definite wise to just add-in another 2x1gb cl4-800.
that'll gives you 4x1gb cl4-800

as for the 4 sticks vs 2 sticks concerns,
the stress on mobo often relates to the difference in max. oc between them.
while you are running @stock ddr800 (1:1) , i see no problem on that.
the heat from additional 2 sticks only concerns when u oc/increase vdimm on it.
in ur case, ddr800 is stock, so no problem on that too.
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if ur current adata only capable of cl5-800,
and you considering between buying another 4sticks on 1gb , or 2x2gb
then 2x2gb is definitely ur choice, as you are not into clocking high speed.

so if you were to going for 2x2gb, just pick the cheapest kit rated cl4-800 as u don't need high performance kit,
as although they prove to clocks quite nice on speed, but don't forget you are running 8x400.
u need no more than ddr800. (though some may argue that they can pushing the ram alone using divider/multip. , but it's generally pointless to do so.)

do note that the difference between cl5-800 vs cl4-800 , is very minimal.
so i'd actually prefer the 1st way which is just add in another 2x1gb to form total of 4gb.
but best if ur current adata able to do cl4-800, then 4x1gb is definitely the way to go.
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as for best results on ur case "without the concern of $$$" ,
as you'r running 8x400, i'd reckon cl3-800 1:1 setup.
there are 2x1gb cl3-800 kits around (eg. kingston hyperX pc2-6400 cl3 2gb kit.)
two sets of them gives u 4x1gb cl3-800 1:1 setup.
(i don't recall any 2x2gb sticks able to do cl3-800 , as 2gb sticks doesn't have l337 chips on them.)
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interesting answer for a guy who never tried the above and hypothesizing on answers..

truly interesting
lets see how much wrong this is..
first would be running 4x1gb sticks vs 2x2gb sticks...
no issue with current mobos and really not that much stress on the nb voltages.
4x1gb has better latencies and bandwidth..
but the con is u need to buy the same chipset...
preferabbly buy the 2 pairs the same time from the same batches..
yes ram has batches too....

second the reason for ram multipliers is to reduce the performance levels
aka 4ghz 400x10 at 800 CL3 PL6 vs 400x10 1200 CL5 performance level 5.. big difference kiddo.
google anandtech rampage formula.... and he explained it there quite well on trD;s and latencies...
so ure wrong kiddo.

the previous reviews of latencies of 800 CL4 vs 800 CL5 vs 800 CL3.. is null and void. y?? because before the introduction of p35's and thats only a few that can be named
there was no option to choose performance levels. every motherboard manufactorer sets a mem table in the bios that corresponds to a certain level.
to make the boards compaitable to all the ram manufactorers they made it very very laxed... so again sorry ure out.

third only two IC's can do 800 CL3's the elpidas and micron D9GMH.
have u even had 800 CL3's??

to the person that originally asked the question

i would say 4x1gb is a better performance
but if u already have a 2x1gb say 800 CL4.. then i'd say do a total change to a 2x2gb or 4x1gb
the cheaper option is the 2x2gb.


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QUOTE(ndgoh @ Nov 12 2008, 12:14 AM)
I have this XFX 780i mobo... I tried putting 4 stick Dorminator but when booting, it says 4 DIMM not supported? My 4 stick Dorminator tested all no problems... I swap slot and swap Dorminator using 2 DIMM slot no problem...

Use 4 DIMM slot... after boot into windows... only 2 gig is recognise... WEIRD!!???
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make sure the mem remap is enabled
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example of stupid ram reviews
infact this website has full of it
since the editor doesnt know how to clock

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=3
4 pages of history and just words
one page of everest result
awesome...

and stupid fella doesnt know that using nforce chipset ure ram performance is shows not more than 475 fsb..
500 fsb takes a hit unless ure running 4x1gb's

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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 3 2008, 04:28 PM)
Can anyone guide me any ways to test my ram whether they are faulty or not? I keep randomly getting BSOD, reboot etc and Vista detected a hardware error during Memory Verification.
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run each stick with memtest86

mainly test 1-4 is ram timing/sub timing/ram skew related
test 5 is nb/ram vdimm /gtl related

and then test with hsi memtest for around 2000%

test in single channel and then dual channel.

 

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