Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 RAM Handbook, updating ... zlol 23/12/07

views
     
PJng
post Oct 29 2022, 11:42 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


anyway to reduce hardware reserved memory?
my old prebuilt pc before add graphic card hardware reserve around 200MB,
after i add card become 17.5MB
but now i buy new prebuilt pc, already come with graphic card, hardware reserved still around 250MB
PJng
post Oct 31 2022, 12:47 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(pandera999 @ Oct 31 2022, 12:34 PM)
did you try play around in bios? normally reserve memory are use for extra buffer for process to use for example. just let it run by default. 250mb.. its not that much.
*
Normally prebuilt pc bios locked, i mean no so much option on bios
I cannot see anything can be set about memory, on both my old and new desktop
Yes both my prebuilt is branded pc
Win 11 too hungry resource, idle already 3.5GB of 7.78GB use

Look like need upgrade RAM to 16GB, is DDR4 3200MHZ, not sure how much
PJng
post Oct 31 2022, 11:40 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(pandera999 @ Oct 31 2022, 05:19 PM)
win 11.. min 8gb... baseline 16gb... best 32gb i believe.. shakehead.gif
*
if buy RAM, does part number is important? does not want to bring who desktop to shop
eg i see on kingston RAM DDR4 3200mhz
KVR32N22S6
KVR32N22S8
KCP432NS8
KCP432NS6
??

ignore this, just park a post for later use
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This post has been edited by PJng: Nov 7 2022, 11:37 PM
PJng
post Jun 30 2023, 10:56 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 30 2023, 10:49 AM)
thanks a lot for the explanation. smile.gif

actually the price of the 2400MHz and 2133MHz is the same at rm71 for the shoppe shop i bought from.
in fact 2133MHz, 2400MHz, 2666MHz all same price at rm71 while 3200MHz is only rm1 more at rm72.

1) that's why i am kind of regret now not to buy the higher speed one. it is stated that my motherboard can support up to 2400MHz of RAM, so my question is that if I put in a 3200MHz ram, will it even recognise but work at lower speed of 2400MHz? or it will just simply not working at all?

2) understood that 2400MHz vs 2133MHz the improvement will be minor. since my old ram does not support XMP, if i buy another 2133MHz ram now that supports XMP like the new one i bought. how much performance more i can probably get by doing so?

3) yeah, you are rite, RAM hardly fail. probably my motherboard spoiled first before it failed. in fact, my motherboard was having problem just 2 weeks back which it cannot be powered on. i brought to a computer shop to fix it at the price of rm100. luckily it can be fixed, else i may need to change a new motherboard which will certainly cost much more.
so kingston RAM is actually lifetime warranty? but i suppose if kingston no longer sells my model of ram, even it has lifetime warranty, it is not going to help in this case rite? which means they will not replace a RAM for me?

4) besides, may i know if there is any other brand that is better than kingston but at similar or just slightly higher pricing also that can be considered?
*
I have old pc, board only max 1333mhz, i put 1600mhz it work, but still running 1333mhz
Why i got 1600mhz, because 1 stick RAM keep random BSOD, RMA i get speed upgrade
PJng
post Jun 30 2023, 06:24 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 30 2023, 06:08 PM)
i bought from a shopee buyer and they said they give local warranty (1 year).
price i paid is RM65.90 including shipping with all the discounts (vouchers).
noticed that the model is no longer selling officially as it is old. but the item i received looks brand new maybe this is the old stock.

is the price above 'normal' or 'reasonable' price for the model and brand of RAM i bought?

i think i will just stick to the current setup. anyway, my PC is old already. no point to spend further $$ on it.

I upgrade to 16GB from the previous 8GB because I tot that it may help in performance but so far i realise my use case may not be able to utilise much on the extra 8GB.

but it is noticed that the shared GPU ram now shows only 8GB. could not remember the amount before i upraded to 16GB. but i guess it means the shared GPU never increase even the RAM is 16GB now. probably this is the limitation of the graphic card that it only utilises 8GB out of the available 16GB.

user posted image

user posted image
*
Auto allocate half of your total usable RAM, not installed RAM
PJng
post Jun 30 2023, 06:51 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 30 2023, 06:35 PM)
ic. so i guess it is the hardware limitation of the graphic card that it can only utilise up to 8GB from 50% of the shared RAM pool.

anyway, given the price of the RAM, i think it is refurbished one. although the seller told me it is brand new.  tongue.gif
appearance wise it looks brand new though. no scratches etc.
*
On sticker, and cpuz will show manufatured date
1021 mean week 10 year 2021
PJng
post Jun 30 2023, 07:07 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 30 2023, 06:58 PM)
this one? it means it is manufactured in week 18 year 2023?
how come there is no serial no.  tongue.gif

user posted image
user posted image
*
That need wait if other got answer, i dunno about serial number

Part number look weird, maybe fake RAM?

This post has been edited by PJng: Jun 30 2023, 07:08 PM
PJng
post Jun 30 2023, 07:24 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 30 2023, 07:14 PM)
bought from shopee buyer. not sure.

anyone can confirm? it has no serial no as well.
*
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=101105328

My RMA ed RAM, yes surprise 2021 still got DDR3
PJng
post Jul 3 2023, 03:20 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 3 2023, 02:56 PM)
but on the kingston website i found this datasheet that matches the part no of the new ram i bought from shopee.

does it in any case shows some chance that the ram is not fake?

https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX421C14FB2_8.pdf
*
If you worry until ask so many thread, take a clear picture, email direct to kingston
PJng
post Jul 4 2023, 11:57 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 4 2023, 11:06 PM)
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
*
then we wait for answer
you know that RAM that i RAM, is buy from 11 street, now that online shop not even exist
don even have receipt from that shop, i just send RAM (on 2021) using 11 street order sheet pdf, lucky i got save pdf, else i no idea how to claim
yes i dunno and don check is fake or ori RAM, but i get back without question ask from amble action

thank to lyn, i get address by google search, result get back to lyn
PJng
post Feb 21 2024, 12:37 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


suddenly pc keep restart, and beep sound, after testing few time, one more RAM is causing, is old pc (i5 2300) using DDR3 1333mhz 4GB,
yes is same pc i got post here before, when 2021 i send one stick RAM,
now second stick give problem

since is lifetime warranty, i try send warranty see what happen
yes i know lifetime not really lifetime, if already end production don think will get back
PJng
post Feb 21 2024, 04:21 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Feb 21 2024, 04:12 PM)
Being so old i guess it could be oxidation. Have you tried rubbing the pins as 'Muusyc' shared?
*
I just use fingger rubbing, did not try rubber eraser
Even put only the stick also cannot boot
If RMA failed need seek secondhand one
PJng
post Mar 4 2024, 11:22 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


already get back RMA RAM, it say 2402 on sticker, what? DDR3 still production on 2024?
i no rush to install it on PC yet
PJng
post Nov 27 2024, 12:27 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,039 posts

Joined: Oct 2017


does any shop accept trade in RAM? as i posted on other thread, i buy a pair of cheap 2×16GB RAM price RM166
so now i got 2×8GB RAM that i buy during 2022, price around RM200 i dunno what to do

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0738sec    0.47    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 2nd December 2025 - 07:59 PM