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 Y580/Y480/N56 Battlefield, Y480 3630QM+GT650m=2599, Y580 FHD 3630QM+GTX660m=2999,white, Win8

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post Jun 18 2012, 08:47 PM, updated 11y ago

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Lenovo official local set all comewith 2 yrs warranty:
http://shopap.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/contr...EAN/MY/Products
Local set Y480 already phased out and replaced by Y400. Remaining Y480 stock in the market are US imported set, its best to avoid.

Ideapad Y580, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GTX660M + 1920x1080 @RM2999[JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HB/W8, backlit keyboard, 2 yrs warranty (Stock limited)
Ideapad Y580, i7-3610QM + Nvidia GTX660M (2GB) + (1920x1080) + Bluray@RM3499[JBL], 8GB, 1TB HDD(7200rpm), W7HP, backlit keyboard, 2 years international warranty
Ideapad Y580, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GTX660M (2GB) + (1920x1080) + Bluray@RM3899[JBL], 8GB, 32GB mSATA + 1TB HDD, W7HP, backlit keyboard, 2 years warranty

Watch out & don't get the cheaper grey imported set (AP set) come with 1 yr warranty. You might get a refurbished set or end up with major warranty claim issues.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2647407

Y580 with FHD review by notebookcheck HERE.
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Y480 review by notebookreview HERE.
Y480 & Y580 detail specs HERE & HERE.
Lenovo brochure, Y480+GT650m
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Asus poduct Guide HERE.
[b]Comments on Asus unsatisfactory warranty service HERE & HERE.
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N56vz FHD review in notebookcheck HERE.

Y580 Benchmarks/ Full stress test/ OC'ed by deepcool0922 HERE & HERE rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(deepcool0922 @ Jul 1 2012, 05:03 AM)
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Picture After 45 minutes Stress CPU, GPU & HDD.
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Picture Test start at 0356. End at 0441.
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CPU temperature maintain btw 82-92. Most of the time on 88-89. I recorded a video, the upload speed so slow...
After 10 mins, HDD back to 54.
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Y580 swap SSD with HDD (DDR3-1333 12GB. OCZ VERTEX 3 240GB. U3 cooler) HERE
SSD temp is 30c & disk data transfer rate increase to 7.9 in WEI
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Y580 OC GTX660M HERE
QUOTE(deepcool0922 @ Jul 3 2012, 12:58 AM)
OC GTX 660M Boost 950MHz to 1045MHz !  Memory from 1250MHz to 1312MHz Dual Channel is 2625MHz!
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Furmark Test (Version 1.10.1) - 1920 x 1200 (W) - AA:0 samples
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Furmark Test Result
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3D Mark 06 Slightly improve. Memory and the HDD is the key.
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Y480 user Full stress test/ 3Dmark11/ Diy SSD/HDD by Mr Bashlyner click HERE. rclxms.gif
Y480 3Dmark11 & Full stress test results before & after the torturing
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Y480 idle HDD temp drop to 40C after swapped HDD with ODD in pic 1 HERE. thumbup.gif
Y480 benchmark after swapped SSD(Crucial M4 256GB) with HDD in pic 2/3 HERE.
Boot up time 16s & disk data transfer rate improve from 5.9 to 7.9.
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Y480 boot time 17s after swapped SSD(Corsair Force 3 120GB) with HDD by BlueBaby HERE
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Add mSATA SSD by bryan_forever89 (LITEONIT LMT-64M3M 64 GB, 4GB+8GB) HERE
Window boot up 18s, disk data transfer rate improve to 7.9
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Y480 Oc'ed GT650m > GTX660M by lwtw & upmost systems HERE & HERE. rclxm9.gif
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Y480 gaming benchmark for Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Dirt 3, COD8 in chinese site HERE and more HERE.

Y480 interior layout with FULL copper heat sink here and here.
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Y580/480 heat distribution & recommended cooler
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[color=blue]Y580 vs Y480 vs N56 interior thermal design.
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According to Chinese site, Y580 has abnormal high HDD temperature due to thermal design problem where hardisk is located between the heat source CPU & GPU
HDD idle temp around 47C, it reached 63C during Furmark & Prime95 stress test. sweat.gif
Will it affect HDD lifespan as we may lost all the critical data?

Y580 with FULL copper heatsink thumbup.gif but hardisk located between heat source CPU & GPU sweat.gif
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HDD manufacturer stated operating temperature between 5c to 55C
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Test results from Chinese site http://ideapad.it168.com/thread-2209355-1-1.html
Y580 with i5-3210M, GTX660M(GDDR5) at room temp 24C,
Under idle situation, CPU 55C, GTX660M 41C, HDD at 47C which is high
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Under full stress with Prime95, FurMark, AIDA64 to stress HDD
CPU & GPU at 91C, HDD at 63C
This is an unnatural level of stress that is almost never achieved under normal circumstances (including heavy gaming)
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If you place a new SSD in the HDD location and relocated HDD to DVD location and doing the above stress test
CPU & GPU at 91C, SSD at 47C and HDD temp down to 43C thumbup.gif
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Stripe Y580 naked .
http://ideapad.it168.com/thread-2214921-1-1.html
http://ideapad.zol.com.cn/58/160_579604.html

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post Jun 18 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jun 18 2012, 09:11 PM)
Nice information you have there bro~
According to notebookcheck's review on the N56 (Nvidia GT630M), the unit seemed to be rather hot as well...
In terms of bang for buck, the Lenovo would be better. You can still use the remaining money to opt for Lenovo's on-site warranty support nod.gif

The situation on the Y580 is more or less similar to what I've been encountering on my M14x (apart from the high GPU temps, but its a GTX card, so its unsurprising). I guess that the temps can be controlled by switching to SSD entirely, and also disabling turboboost on the i7 processor, that should reduce the CPU to around 80C or so hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Jun 18 2012, 09:26 PM)
lenovo more power biggrin.gif
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Y580 is very tempting with attractive price. drool.gif
Just wonder how the engineer design it and placed the HDD between the heat source CPU & GPU. doh.gif
Very worry about the HDD high temperature as it exceeded the maximum operating temperature. Scare it will dead anytime. tongue.gif

According to Notebookcheck stress test on DV6 with Furmark & Prime95. The HDD temperature only max at 38C but Y580 reached 63C. sweat.gif
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-Pav...ok.56672.0.html
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:09 PM)
This is good info! I might change my mind and go for the G55... What if I buy a good cooler like the Coolermaster X3 to use with the Y580? Will it reduce the temperature alot when playing battlefield 3?
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The cooler sure help, better open the back cover when gaming. You can also relocate the HDD to the DVD drive as its cooler there. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(deepcool0922 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:37 PM)
When ur hdd die, u already switch a new laptop.
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HDD die can be replaced, but data lost will cry.gif

QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:12 PM)
interesting...

does that mean the dvd is removed or there's space near dvd location?
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DVD is removed and replaced by HDD. Its cooler at DVD location. laugh.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:46 PM

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Can we find the HDD caddy case for Y580 in Lowyat? How much is it?
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Planning to relocate HDD to DVD position for better cooling...
http://ideapad.it168.com/thread-2207079-1-1.html

Is there any better cooling suggestion to overcome the HDD high temp due to design flaw? notworthy.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:46 PM)
Bad cooling system for Y580. Only one fan to cool down processor and high end graphics card? sweat.gif

It should be at least 2 fans to cool down the components separately, like this.

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The picture cooling system are thumbup.gif but the price, battery life, thickness and weight are sweat.gif

When we compromise on cost, performance, weight & battery life, we get Y580. laugh.gif

Best compromise for mobility and performance is the new Macbook Pro. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ Jun 19 2012, 09:47 PM)
does the components really gonna fried without the extra fan? Y580's temperature look nice to me
the problem it has is the location of the HDD ...the whole cooling system is working fine on this laptop with SINGLE fan
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CPU or GPU will be throttled before the components fried. biggrin.gif
Full copper heat sink are drool.gif but need DIY on HDD temp.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 19 2012, 10:32 PM)
90c-ish temp is fine for u?

Macbook Pro Retina.  drool.gif
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G55VW cooling are thumbup.gif but under stress test with Furmark & Prime95, CPU at 95C, GTX660M at 77C. shocking.gif
CPU also above 90C like Y580.

QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Jun 19 2012, 11:37 PM)
you sure a hundred percent if you swap HDD somewhere else, the temps gonna be fine?
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GE60 GDDR5 GT650, heat issue
Dv6-700x GDDR5 GT650, heat issue
the problem is not simply, 'where' the fan is. They are cramping heaving duty card in tight chassis, without sufficient airflow.
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Under extreme stress test with Furmark, Prime95 & stress HDD with AIDA64, Chinese site manage to bring down the HDD temp from 63C to 43C by swapping HDD.
This is an unnatural level of stress that is almost never achieved under normal circumstances (including heavy gaming)
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 20 2012, 12:35 AM)
There are few factors u need to consider before u comparing result from the chinese website like ambient temperature and proc. They use 35w Core i5 and Malaysian model use 45w Core i7. hmm.gif
Yeah the price is quite a bargain. If i'm still a heavy gamer i probably will get one too. laugh.gif
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Thank you for alerting me notworthy.gif . Info updated to reflect the Chinese site test environment with i5-3210M, GTX660M(GDDR5) at room temp 24c.

QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ Jun 20 2012, 01:04 AM)
the latest that is in or coming to m'sia shore =)
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DV6-7038tx listed in HP malaysia driver site with spec drool.gif
i7-3610QM, GT650M(GDDR5), FHD anti-glare, 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), blue ray
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documen...product=5277765

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 20 2012, 01:08 AM)
the one with GT650M GDDR5? It is basically a downclock version of GTX660M.  nod.gif
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Its seem GT650M can OC to GTX660M. brows.gif

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Y580 vs N56 thermal design. Who is the winner?

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QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ Jun 21 2012, 02:31 AM)
shorter heat pipes means faster cooling??... but the design of Y580's board is buggy anyway
the HDD is like roti panggang ...TOASTED on both sides =.=
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Y580 with full copper heat sink and shorter heat pipes should provide better CPU & GPU cooling than N56.
Y580's HDD located at "oven" need to swap with DVD for better cooling. biggrin.gif
If gaming for long hour, open back cover blow with cooler for super cooling. thumbup.gif




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According to N56vz from notebook review here
Stress test with full load on CPU & GPU at temp 25.5C
CPU max at 97C, CPU throttle to 1.2Ghz sweat.gif
From HWiNFO64, its seem GPU also throttle to 350Mhz
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Look like i7-3610QM really produce a lot of heat and i5 should be better. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ Jun 21 2012, 10:22 PM)
hmmm...but this will mean void warranty the moment you got your laptop~ rclxub.gif
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Just swap DVD with HDD when warranty claim, its still cover. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 23 2012, 09:11 PM

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Added on June 23, 2012, 11:50 pmJust come across a killer spec with killer price in recommendation thread here.. rclxm9.gif
Oh! Lenovo really want to make other OEM sweat.gif . But its very good for consumer. thumbup.gif

Lenovo Y480 i7-3610QM, GT650M (GDDR5), 4GB, 500GB, DOS at RM23xx.

Someone oledi selling in garage sales.
Remember to upgrade the warranty for peace of mind.

There are so many concern on the high HDD temp on Lenovo Y580 on Chinese site. sweat.gif
Here is the answer from a forumer who claim that he is Lenovo researcher in Chinese site here.

Translate it below, excuse me if any miss translation. tongue.gif
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According to the researcher, a simple solution to reduce the HDD heat is to wrap the HDD with heat insulator. Its like wrapping the chicken in the oven, is it effective??? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(jammerlee711 @ Jun 22 2012, 11:17 PM)
i dun really think this is possible but will there be any slight possibility LENOVO will change it's PCB board design for future Y580??


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but there are those stcker thingy stick on the screw holes...those "warranty void if broken" stickers  doh.gif
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Imo, they will only change the layout may be next year for new generation Y series due to costing. The will use the heat insulator to reduce HDD temp. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Jun 24 2012, 08:03 PM)
lol that's not right. US website is usually updated. Taken that, the original leaked specs for Y480 is this one, still, the price even FreeDos is too unbelievable.
Anyway lets discuss.

>14 inch
>GT650M GDDR5
>i7-3610
>Pre-existing heat issues with Y580
Reports of DV6-7XXX running GDDR5 version of GT650M going hot is quite popular on NBR. Fitting very much the same specs in a 14 inch, what would be the outcome?
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QUOTE(BlueBaby @ Jun 24 2012, 08:30 PM)
Well i thought you were referring to the Lenovo Malaysia website,My understanding is that the Y480 with the GT650M is only available in China and now Malaysia?
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Let us speculate now as the price is too good to be true drool.gif , it will clarify itself when the new Y480 with GT650M pop up anytime.
iirmc, Lenovo do mention that Y480 with GT650 will come in June during their previous new product lauching.
If we compare the existing Y480 with GT640M LE, its cost 2999 with win7 and 2499 with DOS. Its highly possible they will replace the existing Y480 with the same pricing. tongue.gif
If we compare with new Y580 at 3399. Its seem justify for the pricing different of 900 for win7, GTX660M, extra 4GB & 500GB and blue ray. hmm.gif
Its also possible come with i5-3210m/GT650M(GDDR5)/DOS at 2499 Then it will direct compete with N56vz with i5/GT650(DDR3) at 2699. It may not be competative with Asus where it come with Win7, 2 yrs warranty, sufwoofer and relatively better quality and design for 200 different. But Asus warranty service is questionable doh.gif

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Y580 keep on jumping the shipment form mid June, late Jun than to July. doh.gif
Wish it can make it in the coming PC fair from 13/7 to 15/7 lol. biggrin.gif

Lenovo Malaysia replied in facebook here.
"The Lenovo IdeaPad Y580 will be available sometime in July 2012!
We apologize on the lateness of the shipment as there are various factors contributing to the delay. We will be sure to keep you updated as soon as it is available!"

QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jun 25 2012, 01:18 AM)
The review from Wired gave only 5 out of 10 for Y480 and it stated the performance of i7 3610 is below par. Is it solely because no SSD/7200rpm hdd (which I can overlook) or the processor in Y480 is really below par? I think it's the former right?

I am planning to get Y580 though but I have mixed feelings.
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Y480 average score 72.5 in notebookcheck external review here.
more detail review from notebookreview here.

Its better to wait for user review as Y480 may has potential heating issues. tongue.gif

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Wonder any forumer bought the KILLER model new Y480 belows. drool.gif
Pls share info to clear our doubt of too good to be true. notworthy.gif
Lenovo Y480(59-341161), i7-3610QM, GT650M(2GB GDDR5),4GB,500GB,backlit keyboard,JBL, DOS@ RM2499, 2yrs warranty.

Just got a confirmation from a forumer who bought Y480 with specs exactly as above & nice backlit keyboard@ 23XX at garage sale. thumbup.gif
Its gona make many OEMs really sweat.gif whistling.gif


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For info, official set of Y580 from Lenovo Malaysia will only be available sometime in July. Y580 currently selling in market is a imported version. The official set come with Blue ray & 2 yrs warrantly where imported set come with DVD & 1 yr warrantly.

QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Jun 28 2012, 07:04 PM)
between the ASUS N56vz and the LENOVO Y480, which got better heating solution?  hmm.gif

i read all the post but i cant get to the conclusion...  rclxub.gif
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Y480, i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650M (GDDR5) @RM2499[JBL], 4GB, 500GB, DOS
N56Vz, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M(GDDR3)@RM2699[Bang&Olufsen], 4GB, 750GB, W7HP, subwoofer
Y480 vs N56vz
2499 < 2699
i7 > i5
GT650M(GDDR5) > GT650M(GDDR3)
500GB < 750GB
DOS < W7HP
14" vs 15"
Y480 is RM200 cheaper come with faster core i7 & GT650M(GDDR5) less trade off 250GB, W7HP, subwoofer. N56 is more attractive/better design but questionable warranty service imo.

Y480 is best bang of the buck for gamer in price/performance with better mobility in 14". drool.gif
N56vz is more attractive & better design biggrin.gif . If this is the only computer you have and u cant leave without it, try look for other as u may headache with their warranty service. laugh.gif

Y480 vs N56vz interior thermal design. Who is the winner??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Uchiha_Itachi1991 @ Jun 29 2012, 01:16 AM)
N56vz definitely seems to hav better thermal design...y480 looks a bit "cheap"...lenovo pricing for their y480 and y580 is so aggressive which makes me question about the overall quality of the product...i would choose asus bcoz of the better design imho...
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Y480 use a full copper heat sink and shorter heat pipe seems to be more effective in CPU & GPU cooling laugh.gif Its HDD temperature may relatively high as its baked by CPU & GPU. sad.gif
Y480 spec with a faster core i7 & GT650M(GDDR5) in a smaller chassis 14" will generate more heat compare to N56vz.
Nice pricing for Y480 & Y580 will make other notebook seems overprice. biggrin.gif
Post #1 updated with Y480 interior layout & link.

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Looking forward for end user of N56vz & Y480 to post their Furmark temperature reading for comparision. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 1 2012, 04:04 PM)
I bought the Y480 with GT650, the spec really worth the price (RM 23XX)  rclxms.gif
The graphic card is GDDR 5, while ASUS N56VZ is GDDR3  laugh.gif
The HDD temperature almost same as Y580, really abang adik  doh.gif
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Congratz to u in getting a Killer model Y480 with killer specs & price. Its really too good to be true. drool.gifdrool.gif
Thank u so much for posting the test results, as many potential buyers are quite concern about the temp. reading. notworthy.gif

Nice CPU temp below 90c after 4 min of Full stress, tho' the temp. is still increasing & not yet stable. Ya, HDD temp is relative high like his brother Y580, but it can be easily take care by adding a suitable cooler nod.gif . Unfortunately, no GPUz to determine its temp. & any throttling.
Wonder how Y480 fare against his abang Y580's temperature reading in Full stress test as quoted below. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(deepcool0922 @ Jul 1 2012, 04:21 PM)
dude! you can OC it to be same like GTX660M without any problem. But risk on your own.

http://nbbbs.zol.com.cn/44/223_439945.html

http://www.gaminglaptopsjunky.com/gtx-660m-gt-650m-gddr5/

May be 10%? 5%?
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Y480 with GT650M(GDDR5) has a very high potential to OC like GTX660M(GDDR5) brows.gif , providing its temp. is under control & gpu not throttles by Lenovo. Cautious, do it at ur own risk.
By the way, ur Y580's GTX660M throttles by Lenovo when it hit 78c during OC. Haishhh...very disappointed, no luck to step it up. doh.gif

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 1 2012, 04:04 PM)
I bought the Y480 with GT650, the spec really worth the price (RM 23XX)  rclxms.gif
The graphic card is GDDR 5, while ASUS N56VZ is GDDR3  laugh.gif
The HDD temperature almost same as Y580, really abang adik  doh.gif
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Where did you buy it, Lowyat or garage sales? Any freegift?
This baby really tempting & its going to sell like Hot cake and really make other notebook seems overprice. thumbup.gif

Since its come with freeDos, any problems in getting all the drivers in place? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jul 1 2012, 10:34 PM)

Added on July 1, 2012, 10:37 pm
3Dmark test
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Nice score compare to N56vz GT650(GDDR3) thumbup.gif

Can u post the screen as per example belows tested by our sifu deepcool0922. Thanks in advance. notworthy.gif
Pls monitor CPU/GPU temp. & stop the test if it hit 95c.
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