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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V39!, Welcum to cheap-jing's thread.

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post Jun 19 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 19 2012, 10:21 AM)
Dun wan go....

i wanna apply for IPO..... they ask me "Race"... I looked for the "1Malaysia" option but cannot find....
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post Jun 19 2012, 11:00 AM

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Former Malaysia defender Singh appointed director of football at relegated Blackburn Rovers

Eat your hearts out... shocking.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 19 2012, 11:08 AM)
Errr... i donno football,  but seems Shebby is hired to be a mediator between two warring factions, so what is there to be envious about...?? And in a relegated club sammore....??  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Dude...none in the statement pointed of one being envious. hmm.gif

The definition for the role of an Director of Football is not at all limited to being a mediator between two factions alone.
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 19 2012, 11:53 PM)
SQL.....??? Structured Query Language...??? What is SQL in ICE terms.....???

SPL i know la....
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SQL = Sound Quality Level
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 02:10 AM)
quite satisfying only?  shakehead.gif
add amplifier you will be sextified.  icon_idea.gif

Morels are known to be power hungry..with stock HU there's not enough power to fully utilize them. the Maximo has a 90w RMS power handling.. should at least pair it with 100w RMS amplifier. Only then you can fully enjoy what the Maximo has to offer!

time to BUY BUY BUY!
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Well if you're playing your Maximo off the passives and are rated at 90W RMS irregardless of how much your amp churns out that 90W RMS is what it'll get. A crossover simply filters out a signal. You can add things like impedence correction, where the load seen by the amp at a certain frequency will be higher impedence then that of the drivers.

This can perhaps be seen as limiting power factor when running passives?

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post Jun 20 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:27 PM)
Focal tweeters are know to be very very bright....

My zhapalang longkang Vocal x-overs have three level settings for tweeter.... i donno so simply set to lowest.... no wonder it sounds so longkang lor....  doh.gif  doh.gif


Added on June 20, 2012, 1:29 pm
Really..... really have such a term ka....???? hmmmm....

Guess me knows nothing....  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I suppose you are referring to the 3 level setting for the tweeters off the passives right? You can adjust the output level of the tweeter on the crossover to -6 dB, -3 dB, or 0 dB.
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:39 PM)
Errr... RMS is a average max power rating, that defines how much power (thus volume and SQ and details the speaker gets) from the amp or HU. Its a indication of the average max electrical current the speakers can receive.... and matching them to a higher RMS amp is the fastest way to kill the voice coils....

Also, an amp churning 100W RMS will send an max 100W to the speakers, and the 90W speakers will still get 100W power, it only can output 90W (based on its own ratings...)... the extra current is the best way to burn them speaker voice coils and suspensions....

But then again, what do i know about ICE and SQL (hah hah hah)....
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Well extra RMS draw doesn't necessarily kills off your voice coils and suspensions IMHO. You are forgetting that your amps don't run at 100% efficiency (apart from Class A amps).

A basic rule is to work out your speaker's RMS power rating and impedance loading on each amplifier channel, then make sure the amplifier is capable of delivering 50 - 100% RMS power above the speaker's RMS power rating. An example would be, 1 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speaker per channel should have an amplifier capable of delivering 300 - 400watts RMS per channel at 4 Ohms, and if you use 2 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speakers per channel and you require an amplifier capable of delivering 600 - 800watts RMS at 4ohms, and so on.

It all depends on individuals actually. I drive my tweeters & mids each with 200W RMS. Am I over-killing my speakers & tweets? Theoretically it may look like I am but I am also considering the efficiency rate the amplifier runs at and the gain its set to deliver.

***YES....the speakers will get 100W RMS if you feed them 100W RMS actively but if you're running them passives - that's what your crossovers are there for....

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post Jun 20 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:58 PM)
Worse case scenario la....

All the above are french to me, excuis moi.... and i oredi say i donno anything about ICE and SQL...

Me simply copy paste from google, and google says if amp = 100RMS, your speakers ideally shld be 200RMS.... first time i hear amp rating shld be more than speakers...

Then again, i dont have an IDMAX sub, or even know what the heck is that, or that I have a looooooooong ICE mod list.... so what would i know....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Bugger...why you pulling in my mod list in now huh? tongue.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 04:06 PM)
thats why i say i want to buy Xai-V-iaX's Class A 100% efficient amp
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My mistake - was supposed to type Class AB (tho most amps nowadays are Class AB)

Missed on the 'B'... notworthy.gif

Class D amps are also considered very efficient....


Added on June 20, 2012, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 03:47 PM)
Simple reason for going with 100W RMS amp is simply because most amps are overrated with some exceptions like Genesis, Abyss etc. The additional headroom will be useful for future upgrades, especially when going active with the new HU  sweat.gif
Amp rating should always be more than speakers, so the Amp will never be driven to clip..Having more power also gives flexibility in dynamic headroom...As for "overpowering" the speakers..thats why you got to set the gain using an o-scope.. 
Amps don't run at 100% efficiency apart from Class A amps?  shocking.gif So you saying Class A amp runs at 100% efficiency? WHICH ONE? I WANT TO BUY! TAKE MY MONEY!
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Agree 100% on this with you....

tho' I have to admit on the typo mistake on the Class AB & Class A notworthy.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(aminmh @ Jun 20 2012, 06:58 PM)
So how aa, u still wanna buy this car?


Added on June 20, 2012, 7:01 pm
Korek..
Efficiency is one thing.. Sound n character from each type of amplifiers is different..
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Yup...there are certain characters that Class A churns not achievable via any other amps. Class AB, D, G or even Hybrid amps.

Audio is very universal...having the most expensive setup doesn't guarantee the best sound either...
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post Jun 20 2012, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 07:57 PM)
can, pay first. ini virgin want to terai have to bayar
expensive setup + shit tuning & install = bad sound.
cheap setup + godlike tuning & install = good sound.
expensive setup + godlike tuning & install = godlike sound.

using Morel Maximo with no amp, sound is like Eclipse only...  sweat.gif Like that very soon Morel also will bankrupt like Eclipse.
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Well I did not want to go there but yea...TUNING makes one hell of a difference...ask Rublik tongue.gif

Eclipse is/was actually a very very good brand. Their items were top notch espc their h/u and to a certain their speakers, subs and amps as well.
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post Jun 20 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 09:06 PM)
I disagree completely.... audio is very personal, what you like may not be right for me.... music la, singer la, genre la, and even SQ.... thus each goes their own way in their ICE setup....
But having mucho money to gather the items below helps to get one there, no?? Else why have such an expensive setup hor.... ??  brows.gif  brows.gif

My Humble ICE:
Alpine 117Ri + H701 + C701 Dynaudio MD130 + MW160 Precision Power PC4400 x 2 JL Audio 12W6v2 Precision Power PC1800 WireWorld Luna™6 WireWorld Solstice®6 Shok Industries 1/0 AWG Pivot RAIZIN Sound Helix Cap33 Mundorf SC68 x 2 Mundorf SC61500R x 2 Audison SRT 1/0 + BFH11 + BFD41 SikaDamp®630 + GSI dampit! + Insulflex + Custom Vinyl/Nitrile

CHABUTZZZ.....!!!
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Your 1st statement just proved its universal mate - Music, Singer, Genre, SQ, Tunability and etc....its not contented to one aspect only...tho I do agree with you when you its personal as well....what I hear might not sooth your ears at the same time...

On the second statement...hey, that list doesn't prove anything. Just some lame phrases and model names/numbers....
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post Jun 21 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jun 21 2012, 08:21 AM)
Early Morning Update on Replica Rigid Collar GB

1. Aminmh
2. kychong - Paid (Front Set)
3. Dr Jackal - Paid (Front & Rear Sets)
4. Mugi - in progress
5. Rublik - in progress
6. Freakystein - in progress
7. madchin - in progress
8. FaezFarhan - in progress
9. nIcV - in progress
10. 13ryan - in progress
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12.
Replica Rigid Collar
Confirm u'll feel the effect (100%)
Please do confirm before the closing date.
Cruise to Holland will be closed on next Friday (29/06/12)


Added on June 21, 2012, 8:22 amwan more info on whether is this needed???

www.rigidcollar.com

it is not a mod
A must FIX

CUM CUMCUM
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post Jun 21 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(rublik @ Jun 21 2012, 10:11 AM)
This guy said RM580 for front and rear including installation for stiff rings

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2339268/all
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I believe this one the brand itself is Stiff Ring right?
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post Jun 21 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 21 2012, 10:47 AM)
I only have experience with their HU, which is very good, esp. the 8xxx series. the 7200 ones had quite confusing interface. the notable subwoofers such as the SW8xxx series were actually made by TC Sounds..which is why its so good. speakers no idea.
how much is the stiff ring? should i mod fix my parents car?
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The legendary 8053 drool.gif

Never tried that before but I have used the AVX5000 with DCU105 some eons back.... nod.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Jun 21 2012, 02:17 PM)
He asked my to remove all the existing front LED and put his even bigger LED.
I'm still waiting seXC to help me do internal LED before I go EA again, for LED again...
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post Jun 21 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jun 21 2012, 02:32 PM)
"A lala is calling another lala, too lala" laugh.gif

cabutz!
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post Jun 21 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(aminmh @ Jun 21 2012, 05:00 PM)
christmas tree? or ICT shah alam?
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post Jun 21 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Jun 21 2012, 10:44 PM)
The all time favourite Vios got new "enhancement"

http://paultan.org/2012/06/21/toyota-vios-...rm73k-to-rm92k/
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Improvement you mean.... tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(rublik @ Jun 22 2012, 09:29 AM)
So many things to fix
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Wonder what more you have to fix? hmm.gif

Isn't yours already jam-packed already tongue.gif

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