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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V39!, Welcum to cheap-jing's thread.

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post Jun 20 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Jun 20 2012, 11:36 AM)
The tweeter is abit bright...
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Agree.

For me i feel its because of where i positioned my tweeters (just chuck it in the existing space, too tired already to find nice fitting). So the high freq is blasting direct.
Previously i used to set treble to +3 now set to 0.
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(rublik @ Jun 20 2012, 11:34 AM)
insurance company will have the amount that needs to be insured with them

if u insure lesser, then they will ask u to sign some documents and say that u can't claim full amount
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I usually use mkt price...need to survey price for 1 yr old Inspira.

Insurance companies tend to state a higher price. I always fucuk them on this laugh.gif
They will then reduce the insured amt to mkt price.
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Jun 20 2012, 09:17 AM)
I also installed my morel jor...the sound almost the same as my old eclipse set...
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DIAM LAH BODOH!
you cheapjing no amp for the morel thats why sound almost the same as lanjiaw eclipse. eclipse so lanjiaw, bankrupt already ok!

QUOTE(ascension @ Jun 20 2012, 11:27 AM)
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Damn IDMax sub, i miss my IDMax sub so much T_T Weird that picture the subwoofer magnet seems smaller then the one I had, new revision?
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Angle of the photo. Got cash? I have a 12" IDMAX in a 1.5cuft 1" MDF box, you can make me an offer then no need to miss it already. brows.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 11:55 AM)
DIAM LAH BODOH!
you cheapjing no amp for the morel thats why sound almost the same as lanjiaw eclipse. eclipse so lanjiaw, bankrupt already ok!
Angle of the photo. Got cash? I have a 12" IDMAX in a 1.5cuft 1" MDF box, you can make me an offer then no need to miss it already.  brows.gif
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RM50 .. u pay me .. i kasih settle ...

offer la.. RM25
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post Jun 20 2012, 12:00 PM

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let's gb AMP....
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post Jun 20 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:58 AM)
RM50 .. u pay me .. i kasih settle ...

offer la.. RM25
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Can, I pay you with RM50k debts. You can take the sub. When you want to go sign the papers with the ah long?
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post Jun 20 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 12:08 PM)
Can, I pay you with RM50k debts. You can take the sub. When you want to go sign the papers with the ah long?
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haiz.....

how long u been in inspira forum...

RM25 is cheap ok...
old time is 100...
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post Jun 20 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Rubz77 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:47 AM)
I usually use mkt price...need to survey price for 1 yr old Inspira.

Insurance companies tend to state a higher price. I always fucuk them on this  laugh.gif
They will then reduce the insured amt to mkt price.
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Hmm, whats the mrkt price now huh?
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:01 PM

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the preve thread extreme yo, got some owner posted on fesbuk that his preve got lemon, and thread can suggest that no need complain, instead burn the car and buy a p2 car yo! biggrin.gif

we are more humble, we ask ppl sell inspaliah and buy toyoda veos jay only.
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 19 2012, 11:53 PM)
SQL.....??? Structured Query Language...??? What is SQL in ICE terms.....???

SPL i know la....
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SQL = Sound Quality Level
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(8431 @ Jun 20 2012, 01:01 PM)
siram siram
the preve thread extreme yo, got some owner posted on fesbuk that his preve got lemon, and thread can suggest that no need complain, instead burn the car and buy a p2 car yo! biggrin.gif

we are more humble, we ask ppl sell inspaliah and buy toyoda veos jay only.
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and then next they will say, lu tak suka, lu keluar. sigh.....
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Jun 20 2012, 09:30 AM)
Pip reli funny...I hold my girl's balls when I wanna drive slow...y he terbalik mia?
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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:23 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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girls? cough cough cough
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jun 20 2012, 02:10 AM)
quite satisfying only?  shakehead.gif
add amplifier you will be sextified.  icon_idea.gif

Morels are known to be power hungry..with stock HU there's not enough power to fully utilize them. the Maximo has a 90w RMS power handling.. should at least pair it with 100w RMS amplifier. Only then you can fully enjoy what the Maximo has to offer!

time to BUY BUY BUY!
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Well if you're playing your Maximo off the passives and are rated at 90W RMS irregardless of how much your amp churns out that 90W RMS is what it'll get. A crossover simply filters out a signal. You can add things like impedence correction, where the load seen by the amp at a certain frequency will be higher impedence then that of the drivers.

This can perhaps be seen as limiting power factor when running passives?

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:41 AM)
morel consider WARMER compare to Focal d ...
many told me Focal lagi Bright ..

i guess due to the stock head unit ..

maybe set the treble lower a bit ?
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Focal tweeters are know to be very very bright....

My zhapalang longkang Vocal x-overs have three level settings for tweeter.... i donno so simply set to lowest.... no wonder it sounds so longkang lor.... doh.gif doh.gif


Added on June 20, 2012, 1:29 pm
QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 20 2012, 01:22 PM)
SQL = Sound Quality Level
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Really..... really have such a term ka....???? hmmmm....

Guess me knows nothing.... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:27 PM)
Focal tweeters are know to be very very bright....

My zhapalang longkang Vocal x-overs have three level settings for tweeter.... i donno so simply set to lowest.... no wonder it sounds so longkang lor....  doh.gif  doh.gif


Added on June 20, 2012, 1:29 pm
Really..... really have such a term ka....???? hmmmm....

Guess me knows nothing....  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I suppose you are referring to the 3 level setting for the tweeters off the passives right? You can adjust the output level of the tweeter on the crossover to -6 dB, -3 dB, or 0 dB.
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post Jun 20 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 20 2012, 01:26 PM)
Well if you're playing your Maximo off the passives and are rated at 90W RMS irregardless of how much your amp churns out that 90W RMS is what it'll get. A crossover simply filters out a signal. You can add things like impedence correction, where the load seen by the amp at a certain frequency will be higher impedence then that of the drivers.

This can perhaps be seen as limiting power factor when running passives?
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Errr... RMS is a average max power rating, that defines how much power (thus volume and SQ and details the speaker gets) from the amp or HU. Its a indication of the average max electrical current the speakers can receive.... and matching them to a higher RMS amp is the fastest way to kill the voice coils....

Also, an amp churning 100W RMS will send an max 100W to the speakers, and the 90W speakers will still get 100W power, it only can output 90W (based on its own ratings...)... the extra current is the best way to burn them speaker voice coils and suspensions....

But then again, what do i know about ICE and SQL (hah hah hah)....


Added on June 20, 2012, 1:41 pm
QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 20 2012, 01:36 PM)
I suppose you are referring to the 3 level setting for the tweeters off the passives right? You can adjust the output level of the tweeter on the crossover to -6 dB, -3 dB, or 0 dB.
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Donno... me donno what me doing, me see switch mai simply push up and down lor....

Me donno anything about SQL... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:39 PM)
Errr... RMS is a average max power rating, that defines how much power (thus volume and SQ and details the speaker gets) from the amp or HU. Its a indication of the average max electrical current the speakers can receive.... and matching them to a higher RMS amp is the fastest way to kill the voice coils....

Also, an amp churning 100W RMS will send an max 100W to the speakers, and the 90W speakers will still get 100W power, it only can output 90W (based on its own ratings...)... the extra current is the best way to burn them speaker voice coils and suspensions....

But then again, what do i know about ICE and SQL (hah hah hah)....
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Well extra RMS draw doesn't necessarily kills off your voice coils and suspensions IMHO. You are forgetting that your amps don't run at 100% efficiency (apart from Class A amps).

A basic rule is to work out your speaker's RMS power rating and impedance loading on each amplifier channel, then make sure the amplifier is capable of delivering 50 - 100% RMS power above the speaker's RMS power rating. An example would be, 1 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speaker per channel should have an amplifier capable of delivering 300 - 400watts RMS per channel at 4 Ohms, and if you use 2 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speakers per channel and you require an amplifier capable of delivering 600 - 800watts RMS at 4ohms, and so on.

It all depends on individuals actually. I drive my tweeters & mids each with 200W RMS. Am I over-killing my speakers & tweets? Theoretically it may look like I am but I am also considering the efficiency rate the amplifier runs at and the gain its set to deliver.

***YES....the speakers will get 100W RMS if you feed them 100W RMS actively but if you're running them passives - that's what your crossovers are there for....

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 20 2012, 01:48 PM)
Well extra RMS draw doesn't necessarily kills off your voice coils and suspensions IMHO. You are forgetting that your amps don't run at 100% efficiency (apart from Class A amps).

A basic rule is to work out your speaker's RMS power rating and impedance loading on each amplifier channel, then make sure the amplifier is capable of delivering 50 - 100% RMS power above the speaker's RMS power rating. An example would be, 1 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speaker per channel should have an amplifier capable of delivering 300 - 400watts RMS per channel at 4 Ohms, and if you use 2 x 200watt RMS 4 Ohm speakers per channel and you require an amplifier capable of delivering 600 - 800watts RMS at 4ohms, and so on.

It all depends on individuals actually. I drive my tweeters & mids each with 200W RMS. Am I over-killing my speakers & tweets? Theoretically it may look like I am but I am also considering the efficiency rate the amplifier runs at and the gain its set to deliver.
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Worse case scenario la....

All the above are french to me, excuis moi.... and i oredi say i donno anything about ICE and SQL...

Me simply copy paste from google, and google says if amp = 100RMS, your speakers ideally shld be 200RMS.... first time i hear amp rating shld be more than speakers...

Then again, i dont have an IDMAX sub, or even know what the heck is that, or that I have a looooooooong ICE mod list.... so what would i know.... whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 20 2012, 01:58 PM)
Worse case scenario la....

All the above are french to me, excuis moi.... and i oredi say i donno anything about ICE and SQL...

Me simply copy paste from google, and google says if amp = 100RMS, your speakers ideally shld be 200RMS.... first time i hear amp rating shld be more than speakers...

Then again, i dont have an IDMAX sub, or even know what the heck is that, or that I have a looooooooong ICE mod list.... so what would i know....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Bugger...why you pulling in my mod list in now huh? tongue.gif

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