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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V39!, Welcum to cheap-jing's thread.

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Eiraku
post Jun 25 2012, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jun 25 2012, 05:49 PM)
plastic i use this


Added on June 25, 2012, 5:50 pm
if not mistaken got diff one...
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If lidat I buy Meg Quik Interior Detailer jor. Everything also can use- but 3-4 times the price, ugh.

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jun 25 2012, 05:48 PM)
I see. What happened to their GB?

The problem is I don't want a manual car, but I love the paddle shift of the Inspira. The power is just nice.
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It blew lah.

Please understand that our gearbox are not as bullet proof as DSG boxes (tuning wise).

Though in comparison, reliability wise, it might be slightly better (check out the mass gearbox "upgrade recalls" afflicting the current crop of DSG VW cars).

Key point here is you have to know your limits.

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post Jun 25 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(david_ngcw @ Jun 25 2012, 05:54 PM)
I use the same 1 woh...

there written can use for leather also geh... hmm.gif  hmm.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 5:55 pm

yeah tried once...then sheet....almost overshoot the highway exit...hohohoh
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Can arr? I thot so too.

And about engine braking, someone once said "you can readily change brake pads, but not gearboxes."

RM200-300 vs RM15-20k. You do the mathlar.

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QUOTE(david_ngcw @ Jun 25 2012, 06:02 PM)
nver did it again after the beep beep sound...hahaha
balls kecut...scare GB kong wink.gif
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I did it once asso, just to test.

Never again.
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post Jun 25 2012, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(miuk @ Jun 25 2012, 06:03 PM)
Hence why i drive like siput down genting.... leave it in 2nd gear slowly go down  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oi you guys gearbox macam batu. Can tiewbo asso. Asso sked kong arr?
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jun 25 2012, 06:15 PM)
Maybe after K3 remap, I will use the paddle shifters less! biggrin.gif
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After LCP you will definitely use the shifters less, that I can say for sure. After 4-2-1, you will start using it again prolly - because the engine will so easily reach the 6.5k gearbox revcut.

Normal overtaking asso no need drop gear after LCP. From 80 (behind lorry speed) foor it and suddenly you're doing 140-150.

Of course you can drop and make it even more "suddenly". But I dun bother any more.

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jun 25 2012, 06:21 PM)
I see. Thanks a lot guys. Will minimise engine braking now. Only will use it for downhill etc.

What's the limit like? Not downshifting when in high speed, etc etc?
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Don't put tiewbo. Don't drive high speeds for long periods of time with ultra frequent use of them shifters. Don't treat your car like an F1 car (downshift from 200 to engine brake). Don't do standing drag starts (4k at N and shift to D).

Other than that the GB is more than capable of taking care of itself IINM.

Don't forget, the Inspira/Fake Inspira was designed to be a blardy EconoBox Family Car. You think we're driving a kereta sukan meh?

If you bought a Toyoda Alicia J different story lah.

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 25 2012, 07:39 PM)
Diam la bodoh.....!!!

U fooling yourself into thinking that the mod fix part you changed is actually giving you the perceived power and response increase....

Its your own conscientiousness thats telling you the car performance is improved....  in actuality it doesnt....

So pls dont holland ppl.... its not that good...
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Engine response IS improved due to the lessened parasitic load on the engine to drive the alternator, rite?

Ergo, improved response doesn't contradict the "faster from 80->140" thing I said (also the faster 140->80 as a result). Although power wise I know nothing much really happens.

But yeah, in terms of money spent / performance increase ratio (perceived or otherwise), the 4-2-1 (any 4-2-1) wins vs the LCP, this I do not deny. Best thing you can get for the money performance wise IS a better ekstlaktor

Except maybe Everco 4-2-1, which is blardy expensive.

But I like me LCP. Makes the car slow down so fast when I release the accelerator, I tend to use brakes less now.

And yay, today save money from cancelling the Fuel Splint lar, Oil Treatment lar, Nano Mist lar, Magnetrap lar - which promptly went to upgrading the engine oil itself.

So actual savings, nil... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(JXplod @ Jun 25 2012, 08:05 PM)
i smell genting! got on? if on.. i fly back from JB and convoy up genting hehe =D  tongue.gif
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Damn, Friday stuck at Bentong with choral speaking kids.

Eh fucuking wait. Bentong? Genting? Fucuk half hour can sampai edi.

I'M ONNNNNNN FOR GENTING!

@FF: Nice pix, really... very fitting lol.

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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jun 25 2012, 08:14 PM)
Vios

I jelly

Dun dare to park next to the Ultimate Machine yet
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Every weekend I park beside Ultimate Driving Machine and Power Of Dreams lol.

Park beside Ultimate Unstoppable Ultra Super Power Machine J not yet.
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QUOTE(miuk @ Jun 25 2012, 08:46 PM)
Knowing him it should be prc boiled soup with abalone
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With sextra prawns? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Hey guys, Genting mou this weekend? I'm gonna be stuck in Bentong anyway, and Genting for sure nearer compared to PJ.

Haish. Why lar my SC no stock Synth 3000. I had to choose between 800 from the tong, 1000 (tried before) or 5000 (which the SC boss stocks for his own Rara). Then again 3000 5000 shouldn't be that much diff (at SC prices anyway).

That said 5000 0W40 feels... ummm... light. Hopefully it protects enough.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jun 25 2012, 08:55 PM)
tahan lama sikit right?
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You need to dump Gambir Sarawak into your fuel tank for that.
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:21 PM)
i got a fren just bought inspira 2.0E also
we'll arrange a trip to KL for remap mayb you want to join?
will let you know the date
but i yet to confirm coz quite bz with work currently
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The Butthurtmobile cometh... cry.gif

Thankfully your car not 2.0R3 with 6-speed MT gearbox and R3 4-2-1 and suspension and 18' lims and New York. Otherwise would turn into the REALLYButthurtmobile.

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QUOTE(miuk @ Jun 25 2012, 09:56 PM)
Need clarify abit. It does not gives you xtra hp nor does it reduce the transmission losses (very small amount only).

What the LCP does is that it reduces the rotational mass located on the crank pulley, which in turns reduces the inertia load (wiki it, in laymans term is something somewhat similar to momentum). So by having a lower Inertia, it becomes easier for the engine to change rotational speed (key point, change in speed, nothing to do with torque or power output). For eg, if you go to the supermarket, it'll be easier for you to push an empty trolley vs a trolley filled with 10 bags of rice, when in fact the power pushing it (you) remains the same.

So once the engine is at constant speed, the only area where load is reduced, only comes from the reduced friction on the bearing due to lower weight (Hence why I mention earlier, very slight reduction in transmission losses).
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I totally understand.

I think.

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Laymans = Engine easier to rev without change in output power? Uh.

Easier to rev = Better response? But without any changes in output power, it just gets to any rev point easier? Why the heck would anybody wanna do that?

My Gran Turismo 2 educated brain tells me that it sounds like what a lightened flywheel would do. Need more Googling.

@UncPoad: Toyota engined 5 Series... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 25 2012, 10:51 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

This is the most accurate descriptive function of the LCP.... which DONT ADD torque or ponies, and any perceived improvements are all that, perceived by the mind.... this reinforces the mere notion that LCP is not as great an investment as one may perceive....

And Eiraku-chaaaaaaaan.... your perception is senget manyak..... the LCP actually reduces engine braking by the same principle that the lighter pulley CANNOT maintain the same inertia and momentum as a heavier pulley.... so having LCP actually dont slow the car much with engine braking as compared to a car without....
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Ehhhhh? I thought with LCP you cannot coast as far when foot is off the gas due to the loss of rotational inertia or something (aka huge rev drop compared to nomal)?

Or is it the other way around?

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 25 2012, 10:54 PM)
U push an empty kart and a kart with 10 bags of 10kg rice with same force.... which kart will go faster and go further...???

doh.gif  doh.gif
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Empty will accelerate faster and stop faster (and can change speeds faster). Full will go to a faster top speed (due to more potential energy due to increased mass) and move further aka stop slower (due to pakcik Inertia).

The cart lar.

If my Form 4 physics memory serves me right anyway.

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 25 2012, 11:00 PM)
Its all about reaching the max RPM range using the least power needed and faster.... with a lighter pulley, your engine spins easier and faster to the max output 4500 RPM range... so it struggles less to reach there, and to maintain the RPM there...

Also, whatever additional little power gained (from the reduced load) will translate faster to the wheel.... but its negligible...

Yes, power up Gran Turismo 5 (or 2) the lighten flywheel is similar, except that refers to the gears in the gearbox... works with same principle....
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THIS is the easiest to understand explaination of what the LCP does so far, coupled with the carts.

But now we move on to LOSS of speed. Faster rev drop brings no changes to the table? Do we stop faster and coast less. Or stop slower and coast further?

Or just the frigging rev needle goes down fast will negligible changes in how fast you slow down?

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jun 25 2012, 11:07 PM)
he jack up the car?  laugh.gif


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kopi duit increases    cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Holy fucuk. 2K for turning left.

Makes my 300 summon for misunderstanding road lines look puny.

@Fuja: My car small CC what. Viper engine how many cc?

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Jun 25 2012, 11:11 PM)
U go to a mall and test this out, then come back and let me know....

Lighter = goes faster and stops further, there is less downwards force and lesser friction due to it...

Heavier = goes slower and stops earlier, converse of the above....

whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Oh shiat, I forgot about friction.

@Metoo: My aircon feels the same generally. Maybe them issues are with lightened, undersized pulleys.

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 25 2012, 11:22 PM)
unker.. his initial limit is 180 .. now 200 jo .. with 2.0 ..

give him 2.4 .. 3.6 .. 4.8 .. also stuck there..  laugh.gif
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I dunwan to ride a jet piloted by Fuja. Sure kenot take off and crash bcoz stuck at 200 oni.
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Jun 26 2012, 11:47 PM)
when is the 2.0p manual version is out?
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News and updates at www.waitlonglong.com.my

0W40 feel very nice wor. Potongnas not as expensive as Torco asso.

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