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1st impression on rear strut bar,ass become damn rigid!when I reverse the car out from the factory, immediately I felt different(not placebo). Butt movement has been reduced to...may be 0? Normally if I went through the gate rail, 1 wheel pass by the car sway 1 side, another wheel went by the car sway the other side. By right all driver/passenger will muntah. With rear strut bar, the car just "jumped" and that's it!

After that, installed front strut bar. Reversed the car & test drive... To my surprise... Don't feel any changes. So I try to do those slick tyre warm up stunt like the GT500 does @ 40kmh at industrial road. Tibai, its damn f*cking dangerous! Steering response become sharp and sensitib! Left turn almost went into longkang, quikly twist back almost ram into the cars parked at roadside! Slow down abit & adjust my angle, realise it take less action to turn the car(change direction). In short, increased of turning radius. More like driving in an Integra Type-R kinda feeling. Try to speed after KESAS exit, at the huge corner before Tasik Selatan, my ass pulling out at 80kmh, whereas front wheel become toe out, feels like drifting. I have time to light a cigerette like Fujiwara senior, only if the corner is long enough. In cantonese, this should be 推头甩尾, or POWER UNDERSTEER.

My overall feedback, I DON'T like the feeling of the FSB at all. May be I'm not used to it. If I close my eyes imagine I'm on a track, I can control my front wheel to hit the apex whilst my rear wheel is drifting out. If I attck EVERY apex with PRECISE steering action, my lap time will definitely improve, however it losses the daily less stress drivability. Now I have trouble to get use to the turning radius each & every corner in/out of my house.

Perhaps, think logically on the current upgrade is UNWISE. Reason behind this is, the "controllability" of the car has upgraded, whereas the rear torsion hasn't been able to catch up with the front wheel action, overall stability of the handling had became IMbalanced. What I have in mind is, if I have a rear stabilizer(not talking about ULAR), those actual flexible stabilizer with hinge that can auto adjust angle whel 1 wheel off road, then my rear wheel will be able to catch up with my front wheels. I'd say the car will be freaking stable and feels like LRT cornering!

I think I need time to adjust myself, I believe my complaints are temporary. Once I got used to it, I'll be enjoying more on the current "chemical" effects. Dude...(Comes to think of it...) And girl(Mieza), the small penny to pay come with such amount of upgrade, definitely worth much compare to BRAND! Or may be I'm wrong, until I had a chance to try a 2 point bar.

These are my evaluation and solely my own silly opinion. Thank you Mahihi for spending precious time with me! Thank you 3MAX fat uncle to install! Thank you Bangladeshi that help up! Last but not least, thank you 3MAX produced powerful performance parts with reasonable price! Money for the value, valued for the money! 3MAX rock!

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Added on July 6, 2012, 5:53 pm1st impression on rear strut bar,ass become damn rigid!when I reverse the car out from the factory, immediately I felt different(not placebo). Butt movement has been reduced to...may be 0? Normally if I went through the gate rail, 1 wheel pass by the car sway 1 side, another wheel went by the car sway the other side. By right all driver/passenger will muntah. With rear strut bar, the car just "jumped" and that's it!

After that, installed front strut bar. Reversed the car & test drive... To my surprise... Don't feel any changes. So I try to do those slick tyre warm up stunt like the GT500 does @ 40kmh at industrial road. Tibai, its damn f*cking dangerous! Steering response become sharp and sensitib! Left turn almost went into longkang, quikly twist back almost ram into the cars parked at roadside! Slow down abit & adjust my angle, realise it take less action to turn the car(change direction). In short, increased of turning radius. More like driving in an Integra Type-R kinda feeling. Try to speed after KESAS exit, at the huge corner before Tasik Selatan, my ass pulling out at 80kmh, whereas front wheel become toe out, feels like drifting. I have time to light a cigerette like Fujiwara senior, only if the corner is long enough. In cantonese, this should be 推头甩尾, or POWER UNDERSTEER.

My overall feedback, I DON'T like the feeling of the FSB at all. May be I'm not used to it. If I close my eyes imagine I'm on a track, I can control my front wheel to hit the apex whilst my rear wheel is drifting out. If I attck EVERY apex with PRECISE steering action, my lap time will definitely improve, however it losses the daily less stress drivability. Now I have trouble to get use to the turning radius each & every corner in/out of my house.

Perhaps, think logically on the current upgrade is UNWISE. Reason behind this is, the "controllability" of the car has upgraded, whereas the rear torsion hasn't been able to catch up with the front wheel action, overall stability of the handling had became IMbalanced. What I have in mind is, if I have a rear stabilizer(not talking about ULAR), those actual flexible stabilizer with hinge that can auto adjust angle whel 1 wheel off road, then my rear wheel will be able to catch up with my front wheels. I'd say the car will be freaking stable and feels like LRT cornering!

I think I need time to adjust myself, I believe my complaints are temporary. Once I got used to it, I'll be enjoying more on the current "chemical" effects. Dude...(Comes to think of it...) And girl(Mieza), the small penny to pay come with such amount of upgrade, definitely worth much compare to BRAND! Or may be I'm wrong, until I had a chance to try a 2 point bar.

These are my evaluation and solely my own silly opinion. Thank you Mahihi for spending precious time with me! Thank you 3MAX fat uncle to install! Thank you Bangladeshi that help up! Last but not least, thank you 3MAX produced powerful performance parts with reasonable price! Money for the value, valued for the money! 3MAX rock!

Bro Z1,

Some of the point is totally legit, for example overall balancing of the vehicle. However, suspension came last because the suspension were tuned based on the chassis/weight/purpose. So, chassis flex for factory fresh vehicle is unavoidable. Factory always design vehicle WITHOUT strut bar, the only reason I can think of is the PURPOSE. Why would we put a piece of racing equipment on a road use car? Further that, why would I put a stick across the engine bay that kacau me when I need to service my engine? Last but not least, metal is getting expansive, for that matter no way I'm going to add on weight to the damn car.

I've used 2 points struts on few of my cars(even 1 of my Kancil). The only difference I can feel is slightly oversteer. However, you should try the 4 point bar by 3MAX. It just simply feel different. I dare not to say how good it is, but it gives you room to adjust when you're losing control. With this fact alone, I'd say this is a good buy. Never thought that extra 2 point made huge difference.
I drove EF, EG2, EK4, EK9, EP3, FD before. The suspensions are really good and well tune. The power steering really sucks, damn light and numb. What does it have to do with chassis flex? The answer is no. Chassis flex will produce the BENT between the strut towers, thus limit travel distance of the shock absorbers. You can put the hardest spring+absorber on your ride, that doesn't mean you don't have chassis flex.
Just be extra careful when you test your 1st speeding corner I dont know the theory, but according to your description almost fit everything on my BLM.

Anyway, please refer below photo shots taken earlier:

Whilst waiting for Marhaihai at ESSO, spotted another TRD


Our car rear seats took off, all I can see that links both side, besides of the roof and base, there is a piece of black color PVC board & some steel plate on the rear speaker panel holding between! I understand Savvy's chair is foldable, therefore that part is made of "AIR" so it can be fold back to put luggage. I think Plotong totally omitted the fact that we need to keep 50 durians whist keeping the passenger's ass safe


No drilling required, everything plug & play


This is what I mean, there is only a piece of PVC board holding it.


No it does not eat up boot space. However, it's now impossible to mount the amplifier there anymore... unless you use cable tie to hang it on the strut bar.


Later can not tahan, installed the FSB immediately.

FSB+RSB delivered more than expected, I was overwhelmed and unable to adapt for the time being. If you ask me whether this worthy, I can tell you I decided NOT to mod my suspension anymore. These stuff works pretty well with the standard shocks already. As of the rear stabilizer, I can live without it as long as I don't go attack corner like dares, think I can keep my rear tyres on the floor with no issue.

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Added on July 7, 2012, 1:24 am

Now I can answer your questions with those photos.

1) Please expect nothing, placebo effect will give you more chemical

2) Only if manufacturer came up with some proper design, not those "BRANDED" stabilizers that BOLT a few nuts at  both coil spring tapak and call it stabilizer. What I want is something like this:

instead of.. ahem! This

3) You're right, what was I thinking. Negotiate less but turn more, but only take into account when shocks are having extreme forces(when chassis flex), otherwise you'll feel exactly the same. More obvious when you're those kind of bugger who like to go over speed bump by senget. The left right sway has been totally eliminated(could be my RSB).

4) I should have listen to Marhaihai to take the FSB 1st, few weeks later to install the RSB. Now I have absolutely no idea whether the FSB made such difference or the RSB? Or may be it only happen when both are installed.