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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION

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TSdares	Jun 15 2012, 09:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #21
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(zukjka @ Jun 15 2012, 09:02 PM) dares,pm me mahihi account. To everyone in the bulk list, UGPM. QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 15 2012, 09:23 PM) ah? now with 'show off ur saga' section ah? Come show off yours
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 12:02 AM Return to original view \| Post #22
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	Suddenly eveyone go missing again. I dun think Proton offers 5 year warranty for their cars before Preve. Your extra 2 years might be under EWP which is covered by your insurance company, not Proton.
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 02:49 AM Return to original view \| Post #23
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 16 2012, 01:32 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Here is a little story of what happened when I was away after dinner. Just now when I was testing my "brand new" hai flow drop in filter(thanks to dares). After Damansara Perdana, approaching PJTC curving to the right heading LDP toll plaza, I down shift & did a double de-clutch to keep my RPM hai before I taking the right corner. Clean suction sound, hai RPM, everything seems to be just nice & I was enjoying the powerful induction sound and pulling myself apart on the stock suspensions. Whilst the speed climbs and ready to shift up, I engaged 4 gear, declutch & full throttle. Suddenly the car loss power, RPM climbs until rev cut. I try to release to neutral and reengage, same thing as if the gear box is not there. My heart had broken in to zillion pieces, I thought I broke the gear box I had no choice but to stop at the road side and wait for assistance. I called up magician and he adviced to give it few minutes to cool down and try again. Normally gearbox doesn't just knock out like that. So I rested the car for about 15 minutes, start my engine and WOW! The gear box came alive! But then, happiness doesn't last long as I engaged 2nd gear, the clutch slip became obvious. I had to shift to 3rd gear and drive below 40kmh to maintain momentum. RPM is farkin up and down inconsistently even-though I'm driving at the same speed. Finally reach one of my friend's workshop(not the best) quite nearby, immediately we hook the car up dismantle the gearbox to see wtf is going on. Look carefully, can you see where is the clutch pad?! Or you only see steel sheets hanging there?! The other side of the clutch, still have very thin layer of clutch pad running on my flywheel, until I double de-clutched it and finally the thin layer of clutch pad couldn't take it anymore and snapped! Ladies & gentlemen, this is what I call a "clutch eruption" or 爆極力子. You may do maintenance on the car. You may service your brakes, change your brake fluid, engine oil, radiator coolant, tires, suspension, any other thing that make your car as safe as possible... but nobody will check your clutch Is this on your "new" Wira?
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 01:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #24
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 16 2012, 10:24 AM) Hi morning everyone. Last to 2days I go to work like I usually do. But when I want to go back suddenly my steering become a bit heavy. I realise that it is difficult to turn to left compare to right. After that I go to pump station to isi angin all the tires. But the the problem still occur. I wonder what happen How to explain this.. Usually after turn into junction I will let my steering go straight by itself.. But now my steering become difficult to do so.. I mean after u pusing2 steering, you will let your steering to pusing2 sndri until it become straight.. Corner too ganas? Added on June 16, 2012, 1:39 pmAnyway, some updates to the strut bars... Mahihi will be taking us to the factory for installation from the USJ Esso petrol station, instead of us DIY or him installing for us. Installation is already included in the price. Also, here's a more more complete picture of the front strut bar As you see, the additional 2-points are fixed to the fenders, not the firewall. I couldn't find any FSB for BLM Saga that are tied to the firewall, so I guess it is still a step up from a 2-point FSB (and still cheaper than UR ). This post has been edited by dares: Jun 16 2012, 01:40 PM
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 02:52 PM Return to original view \| Post #25
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 16 2012, 02:44 PM) Actually it seems like a 6 point bar, because there are two points on the strut tower and one point on the fender for each side Hope the brake fluid reservoir cap doesn't get in the way though I can't wait If like that is 6-point, then UR also 4-point dy I was wondering how it would fixed on the firewall, so I went to check my engine bay last nite and googled more pictures. Then only I realize it is fixed on the fender instead, so it makes more sense now
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 07:18 PM Return to original view \| Post #26
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	Carb cars can wash, EFI...better not. Too many electronic parts. Bust a O2 sensor and you putih putih pay a few hundred bucks to diagnose and fix it. Personally, I Just wipe it with car shampoo. Takes longer and more work, but no worries I cant start my car later.
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TSdares	Jun 16 2012, 11:53 PM Return to original view \| Post #27
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 11:39 PM) floor not already have the carpet? The carpet is no better than the fabric covering your roof. Neither are soundproof or sound deadening material. The effect is minimal, if any
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TSdares	Jun 17 2012, 11:08 AM Return to original view \| Post #28
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	one wing mirror
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TSdares	Jun 17 2012, 03:05 PM Return to original view \| Post #29
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 01:33 PM) TS, please include my dugong wanna be foto Added QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 02:00 PM) busy. research paper due in 5 days time. still got 5 days ma. I did not start my final year project report until 36 hours before the deadline
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TSdares	Jun 17 2012, 06:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #30
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 04:43 PM) minus all the time for appointments, classes and 2 assessment tests, I have roughly 38 hours to complete a 10 page research paper. Pakai size 10 TNR fonts pulak tu. YA ALLAH. Kasi dia double spacing
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TSdares	Jun 17 2012, 07:32 PM Return to original view \| Post #31
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	We are all still speechless from being awed by the sight of a SAGA TRD
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 12:33 AM Return to original view \| Post #32
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 11:39 PM) im not very clear with this strut formation thingy. but all i know is, 2 points on the suspension bush points, and 2 point at the chasis frame. chasis frame solid or not at the side i duno, crash zone is everywhere on a BLM that i know. even if u dun have a fender, u still can screw the 2 points at the frame there. However, if someone is going to compare between 3max and UR, i got no comments. everything got pro and con. same goes to UTR, C-TECH, and etc..steel and aluminium..u believe that what ur paying does the job and worth the buck, go ahead. it is ur car, ur safety, ur money. no hard feeling peeps. everyone got their point, just that whichever point suits ur mind, that will be ur decision making point. cheers. peace. goodnight~ Why la so emo? I say fender because it is easier to understand, of course the strut bar is not tied to the flimsy outer shell of the car la. If not I'll have to say "that part of chassis on the side of the engine bay behind the strut tower". Any additional reinforcement members must be tied to the chassis, else there is no point, be it 3Max, UR, Cusco or whatever. This post has been edited by dares: Jun 18 2012, 12:37 AM
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 12:43 AM Return to original view \| Post #33
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:39 AM) Link broken Mane ade broken Take note though, this is for 1.6 and 1.3 IAFM. IAFM+ should be slightly different.
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 12:56 AM Return to original view \| Post #34
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 12:52 AM) i no shoot u bro. i generalize things. coz some of them mistaken ur fender as in really unto the fender. so i have to provide a clearer description which is the chasis frame, not fenders. i dun wan mis communication among knowledge that can be a flame in future. UR bulk price is everywhere now. but ah.. 1. not to be sarcastic, u sure u want strut bar? u not listen ur mech say it is not worth to have one? 2. u not blmclub member? not prosboc member? i tot UR bulk is available for both at the moment, just price tag haven fix. cheers. no hard feeling bro. just curious and asked. No hard feelings bro, I never tot ppl might misunderstand. Thanks for clearing it up for me
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 12:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #35
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 12:57 AM) someone did mis-understood, if u read back. LOL. You mean coolkwc? I think he also understood that it is tied to the chassis, but he meant that that part of the chassis is part of the crumple zone and migt not be as stiff as the firewall I am not sure if that area is part of the designated crumple zone, so I cant say whether he is correct. This post has been edited by dares: Jun 18 2012, 01:01 AM
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM Return to original view \| Post #36
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:07 AM) i believe the whole saga is a crumple zone vehicle, no matter which direction, sure same effect. Not that taufu la hahaha Saga chassis is stiffer than persona, but not as stiff as exora and preve. Thats not saying much, probably
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 01:19 AM Return to original view \| Post #37
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM) I'm no structural engineer, but looking at the pic Unker Dave posted, the point where the strut attaches to the chassis is pretty close to the firewall, so even if it's part of the crumple zone it's probably rigid enough to be the mounting point. Maybe when we visit the 3Max factory for installation we can see if the designer of the FSB for Gaga is available then we ask him I wont worry about it. There are FSBs that tie to the front of the vehicle pun. Thats crumple zone for you!
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 01:30 AM Return to original view \| Post #38
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM) Ha? Stiffer than persona... QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM) never knew persona was less stiffer than saga for chasis rigidity...but i tot 1.6 has to have a better chasis build-up then a 1.3? from my understanding, 1.3-1.5 is one level, then 1.6-1.8 is another level. Haha, the FLX SE should have stiffer chassis lor Anyway, here's the source from the Preve thread: QUOTE(mat79 @ May 3 2012, 09:55 AM) when i said about rigid chasis, iinm, iswara@saga based torsion n bending rigidity around 7000nm, wira based around 9000nm, waja nearly 13000nm, gen2@persona more or less the same as waja with some revision at 13000nm, satria neo at 14000nm++, savvy based such saga 17000nm, exora 18000nm and preve at 19000nm added with 12 parts hpf reinforcement that double up the strength of ahss using boron steel which is lighter than ahss. The less surge feeling not only due to engine tuning, but also chasis refinement as u can see above. QUOTE(mat79 @ May 3 2012, 10:02 AM) yup,saga is stronger than waja coz waja platform is old one. U can check euroncap marks on front n side collision, compare with saga ancap frontal n side collision marks.
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 08:20 AM Return to original view \| Post #39
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 06:46 AM) V12k is partially right about the chassis thingy, if you read the chassis code you may find most vehicle share the same chassis. Such as dugong family changes Chassis more often back in the old days, KE10(60's), KE20(early 70's), KE30(late 70's), KE70(late 70's). More of your familiar starting from 80's is KM36(Toyota hiace... WTF?! uses the chasis back in 70's)?! Thats why those car can really DRIFT, because the stiffness of the chassis + lorry type leaf spring suspension! After that, Dugong decided to ditch rear wheel power and go FF. Started with AE80(I assume you watch Initial D AE86 is the only and latest modern Toyota rear wheel drive before ALTEZZA). Later, AE has been roaring on the road for another 20+ years before Altis taking over, which all the Toyota become Dugong from that day onwards. All tall² and fat², very comfortable. For Mitshi.... CP9A, CP7A....all the while uses same chassis Ebo 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,78,8,89,9,65,245,235,2352,345,2345,4132 looks like they're not going to change FOREBER!!!! Unker, before anyone comments on the chassis part, I want to point out that Dugong specifically refers to the current gen Vios car only, NOT TOYOTA OR THEIR OTHER CARS
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TSdares	Jun 18 2012, 10:57 AM Return to original view \| Post #40
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	I tot I very lek already coz this morning i sendiri cabut door panel and pasang balik Imma gonna sit in a corner and be quiet quiet...
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