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 Nokia 808 - V02 - [The King of Camera Phones], PUREVIEW - The Legend of Camera Phone!!!

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post Sep 10 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(peter32 @ Sep 10 2012, 01:52 PM)
Andy, I think its nothing wrong to project our desire of the next nokia phone features.  Without feedback how do they know what we want ?

Now I am still waiting for the FR2 and see how well symbian Belle has improved.
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No I did not say it's wrong wo? When?

I mean, when the 808 PureView is launch, many people say why not a WP? Why Symbian, etc...
But they got ask themselves Why WP? Just because it's a new OS?
WP has so many restrictions and limitations, what's the point of using WP on the 808 PureView?
Moreover, N8 is running Symbian, it will fit the needs of those N8 users waiting to upgrade their N8.

No doubt, in future, the PureView will come in WP OS, but that's the future models and that the challenge they need to overcome and work with Microsoft. But 808 PureView, there shouldn't even be any idea of it running WP, moreover WP7.5.

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post Sep 10 2012, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Sep 9 2012, 06:00 PM)
probably thats one reason why the 808 gets most of the pureview tech ..
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i guess pureview will no longer b mainstream tech any more laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 10 2012, 11:35 PM)
i guess pureview will no longer b mainstream tech any more laugh.gif
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Can you imagine Nokia didn't went Microsoft but continue with Symbian, the new model after 808 will be gazillion year ahead of other smartphones. Now they have to pathetically go back 5 years again to match WP OS
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post Sep 11 2012, 12:48 AM

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The problem is, despite their hardware ingenuity, they have reached their intellectual saturation point in their software dept.

So they will just need to outsource the OS.
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Sep 10 2012, 04:54 PM)
Sifu aspire, your dog well groomed and handsome, hehe. Look like one of the wolf species. Your nature pics always fantastic.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 10 2012, 11:35 PM)
i guess pureview will no longer b mainstream tech any more laugh.gif
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mainstream would nice though , though if would hae been nice if they caould have included an optical zoom like the old n93(i) though .
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optical would make the phone become even more bulky. Thats why they uses the pixel oversampling to create the lossless zoom
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post Sep 11 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(peter32 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:48 AM)
The problem is, despite their hardware ingenuity, they have reached their intellectual saturation point in their software dept. 

So they will just need to outsource the OS.
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No, that's not the issue. They can outsource, they can adopt other OS including Androids. But there's something very weird and wrong, they partner with WP (which is obviously not doing well and dying), and they abort their pre-mature baby (MeeGo), and set death sentence to their Symbian, 1 year before they have any WP device to sell or even show. This move, makes their customer loses hope and jump, which in turn, boost Samseng up to No. 1 slot.

Nokia was never about going single platform and emphasizing on 1 category of customers only. What happen to Nokia? In the past, Nokia is always about reaching to MORE customers, providing devices for different category/types of customers, they have the low end budget series, to Sports series, Rugged series, Designer series, up to the high end tablets for business professionals. Suddenly they went totally opposite direction and off course.

The weirdest part is adopting WP, despite it's not doing well in the market; More weird is, suddenly it's all about WP, as if it's a MS company. The one who benefits from this deal is obviously no other than MS themselves, and ever since the deal with MS, Nokia has lost their No. 1 spot, lost their customers, lost their trust, removed many of their employees, gain even more bad reputation from their Lumias, lost their technologies (e.g. Nokia Maps, etc).
Now imagine if they adopted Android? Imagine if they go multi-platform like Samseng, Sony, HTC. They can still have WP who says they can't? If they go multi-platform, high chances, they're still No. 1 today and consumers will have many choices of phones, and today's PureView will definitely NOT suffer the same issues as Lumia's PureView.

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post Sep 11 2012, 11:12 AM

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You can blame it on Stephen Elop and all the Nokia executives that let him in. If Nokia continues making losses in 2013, I don't see him staying as CEO for long.

Giving up Symbian, the OS with the largest mobile marketshare, for Windows Phone, an OS that practically didn't have any marketshare?

Future business students will know him as one of the worst CEOs that ever existed.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:59 AM)
No, that's not the issue. They can outsource, they can adopt other OS including Androids. But there's something very weird and wrong, they partner with WP (which is obviously not doing well and dying), and they abort their pre-mature baby (MeeGo), and set death sentence to their Symbian, 1 year before they have any WP device to sell or even show. This move, makes their customer loses hope and jump, which in turn, boost Samseng up to No. 1 slot.

Nokia was never about going single platform and emphasizing on 1 category of customers only. What happen to Nokia? In the past, Nokia is always about reaching to MORE customers, providing devices for different category/types of customers, they have the low end budget series, to Sports series, Rugged series, Designer series, up to the high end tablets for business professionals. Suddenly they went totally opposite direction and off course.

The weirdest part is adopting WP, despite it's not doing well in the market; More weird is, suddenly it's all about WP, as if it's a MS company. The one who benefits from this deal is obviously no other than MS themselves, and ever since the deal with MS, Nokia has lost their No. 1 spot, lost their customers, lost their trust, removed many of their employees, gain even more bad reputation from their Lumias, lost their technologies (e.g. Nokia Maps, etc).
Now imagine if they adopted Android? Imagine if they go multi-platform like Samseng, Sony, HTC. They can still have WP who says they can't? If they go multi-platform, high chances, they're still No. 1 today and consumers will have many choices of phones, and today's PureView will definitely NOT suffer the same issues as Lumia's PureView.
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Well said, couldn't brain what and how those top management approve elop's strategy.
until now i can't see any privileges given to Nokia from Microsoft,LTE was introduced by HTC, even first WP8 was given prior introduction for Samsung instead of Nokia, not to mention the last spotted Microsoft surface phone on benchmark test..
it's like Microsoft are b****ing with Nokia, punching Nokia in the face, and telling them who's the real boss; Microsoft MIGHT not be able to gain much market shares without Nokia and at least they wouldn't went bankrupt even if they scrapped wp8, but Nokia would definitely be put in hell and possibly went bankrupt with no sufficient cash to fund new OS or even re-develop/market their Meego/ Android devices anymore at this point.

May god bLess Nokia to at least survive until they able to fund another profitable ecosystem

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I'm amazed at the pointing the finger arguments that is still ongoing. Can't get enough? Already emailed Elops?

Everything have it's ups and downs. Sony was once king of cameraphone but looks who dominate now. The world kept spinning and every year winter and summer is different. If you take a step forward, you're one step ahead and this has to go on and on. Nokia is too late to the party and that's it. No need to blame anyone.

Look forward, keep taking tiny steps ahead, keep comparing, and there will be light. Don't dwell on past glory and pray for miracles.
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LOL.
the price of the tripod is going to increase soon whistling.gif

http://pureviewclub.com/2012/5682
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 11 2012, 10:38 PM)
LOL.
the price of the tripod is going to increase soon  whistling.gif

http://pureviewclub.com/2012/5682
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Eh Everdying, you go tell them is it? Hiyaaa, I must quick2 go that shop at Dataran Pahlawan and ask biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Actually ah, the clamp will block the screen a lot or not?

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I believe most if not all that are still complaining are emphasizing the logic of doing business - never put all eggs in one basket, this is darn simple logic that's why it's hard to just ignore it especially for Nokia fan that really caring the survival of the company.

Anyway,wp8's "shared cores" and lumia920 still looks promising depict the fake pure view fiasco, there are still many USP for that device so let's hope it will turn out being successful
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Sep 11 2012, 10:47 PM)
Eh Everdying, you go tell them is it? Hiyaaa,  I must quick2 go that shop at Dataran Pahlawan and ask  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
Actually ah, the clamp will block the screen a lot or not?
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u can see from the pic already, if u want to see what u shooting...either u block off the left side or right side.
for me, i adjust settings before i shoot already...so no need to adjust left side...just need to touch focus and touch shutter.
u place it in center, obviously can adjust both sides...and if u just care bout center focus...then good enough.
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I've spare this black and white cases. I ordered it on eBay but then late arrive. So I asked the seller to reship rather than refund. Later both packages arrived, I paid for the second items as I don't like karma knocking on my door then.

So, the question is, who want this case for free? brows.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:58 AM

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Complains, Discussion, etc are normal, you see it everywhere. There're different types of people and how people see things. It can be just talking about the disappointment and how one feel/point of view/opinion towards something. Each has different view and opinion, what I said, some may never think of it, what others said, I may never think of it. So, it's also sharing point of view, etc.

QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:54 PM)
I believe most if not all that are still complaining are emphasizing the logic of doing business - never put all eggs in one basket, this is darn simple logic that's why it's hard to just ignore it especially for Nokia fan that really caring the survival of the company.

Anyway,wp8's "shared cores" and lumia920 still looks promising depict the fake pure view fiasco, there are still many USP for that device so let's hope it will turn out being successful
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True, it's sad to see what's happening to Nokia and the changes.

Lumia may still be successful but only within WP category since Nokia only selling WP devices, and they have to face other competitions. Unless they really believe there is one OS to rule them all and will take over the entire or most of the market? I have no idea on WP8, but if it's coming with the similar restrictions and limitations as WP7, they might as well don't even think about it.

Added:
On side note, some good news for current Lumia range (includes Bluetooth media files transfer):
http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/09/11/...ia-smartphones/

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 12 2012, 10:45 AM

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