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post Jun 24 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 24 2012, 11:45 AM)
im using WPA2-PSK with 300Mbps band-n with no problem, make sure u check and tweak ur router...

try to change around with ur router channel and channel width


Added on June 24, 2012, 11:48 am
u can drag and drop ur widgets across homescreen to another homescreen with stock launcher or nova......nvr used apex b4 so i cant tell sweat.gif
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Swt... really can... must pull to the very edge... Anyway, it works just fine. Good. Lol...

Lol... 2hours of it is just screen on, not using.
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post Jun 24 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 24 2012, 12:35 PM)
really nice battery life, maybe u din use data yet.....once u use data ar, the battery life...  laugh.gif
if under warranty, send for warranty? hmm.gif
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post Jun 24 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 24 2012, 01:47 PM)
any launcher can do that... you just have to drag them to the side  hmm.gif
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Normally it's easier to do that... Nexus leave too little area for us (or maybe me...) to pull it to the side. Even when dragging widget from App drawer into homescreen. Sometimes I dragged to the edge it just won't flip to the next page.

If you get what I mean icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 24 2012, 02:06 PM)
u have to move ur finger a bit to move to another page after u have moved to another page......it doesnt move 2 screen if u don move ur finger
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yawn.gif Even one screen also susah doh.gif

I think is because of my casing. Hard to pull to really really really really edge doh.gif

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QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 24 2012, 03:19 PM)
not due to casing or gnex not giving enuf space bla bla bla..  its ur skill to do it...  practice makes perfect..

also,  music sounds level depends on bitrate .. but im sure u know that, rite?
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Not really depends on bitrate but the sampling level or the sensitivity of the mic etc. BITRATE just indicates that how many bit is required for each 'second' of audio. Each bit represents an audio level. If it's high quality enough, it has more audio levels, so called sample size if you studied communications or audio related courses. Higher bitrate doesn't mean higher audio level. It just barely means you get more resolution, crisper sound, more original-alike sound, better reproduction of sound as it gives much more details and allows you to reproduce the sound more similar to an analog signal(of course it'll never be as refined as analog). I can produce an audio file, I don't need much details in it, just single pitch and make it loud by amplifying it by few dB yet still low bitrate. It'll be loud but it won't sound good. Maybe you're right but this is what I know based on my knowledge. I just never will relate 'loudness' to 'bitrate'.

Refer:
http://forums.ilounge.com/ipod-monochrome/...her-volume.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...06103448AA0osWn
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=221214

Erm... Seriously, it's harder than any other phone. Even our Topic Starter agreed on that. Refer few posts above. I buy a phone that does what I want it to do, not what it wants me to do, so called 'user-friendly'. If you know what I mean. I mentioned casing because my casing is taking up the bezel area on the side leaving 1mm bezel area from the screen. Due to this, it's very hard to drag all the way to the edge. Maybe your hand is small and slim and whatsoever but my hand is huge. Only Galaxy note is the phone I can't hide with my hand. laugh.gif

This has nothing to do with skill level. It's design problem, coding problem, programming problem, casing problem. By the way, do we really need skill for this? Do you need to go through colleges to learn the skill for this? sweat.gif I've used other phones and many of my friend's phones. I can really say that it's harder to get from one screen to another on nexus. There should be an area where when you dragged something into that area, it'll highlight the edge indicating that it will be moved to the next page but the so called 'area' for this phone is really too small IMO.
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QUOTE(weng98 @ Jun 24 2012, 04:00 PM)
whatever bit rate whatever hardware or software.. quality of the audio starts from the source... but even though you have all that.. playing it all on your phone connecting it to a conrad johnson would be a bit of a laugh aint it.. so just a phone dont expect hi fi from it..
my favourite headphone is a sennheiser hd25 when connected to nexus running poweramp.. i expect and received bliss...

just dragged it to the side and slant it a little bit higher.. takes some getting used to..
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Actually I'm not talking about the bitrate/software thing. Just the low speaker volume thing. I can definitely understand to get really nice quality sound, one can go for something extreme like tube amp etc that may cost more than a bomb. I'm actually just talking about speaker volume only. I won't expect quality from the speaker volume but it need to be at least a bit louder. I can understand what you say if you're an audiophile.

QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 24 2012, 04:03 PM)
TL:DR i have to say that the default google music player, even u use high bitrate song or good earphone....quality playback still sux....u need other music player to tweak the sound quality
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It's actually quite ok to my ears. Perhaps I should get poweramp trial and try them side by side.


Added on June 24, 2012, 4:13 pmhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.powerfulcontrol.free&hl=en

For stock user. Quite useful, max 7 toggle buttons. Can be widget on homescreen and also in notification area. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 24 2012, 04:21 PM)
waaa..  u seems to know a lot bout sounds.. good info u got there.. i was only referring to own experience.  for my music files that were converted to 320kbs, they sound a lot better n louder than those of 192kbs..  dont need to be a genius to notice that I guess... 

and u ask do one really need special skill to operate their smartphone? ya hoh.. makes me wonder.. or just maybe becos i never had any problem moving widgets across screens.. from eclairs to icecream.. they are all the same...  so i wonder why do some people mentioned this as sumtin very hard to do?
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laugh.gif It's too hard that I don't even notice that it existed. Seriously... I tried few times, do like in Gingerbread but it's just won't work until someone mentioned it should work in the launcher doh.gif
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QUOTE(weng98 @ Jun 24 2012, 04:23 PM)
iwanagp: download poweramp and volume+ you will notice the difference.. nexus is like this.. they give you the minimum bare and leave it to you to tweak it... but the potential is big..

how come build 40 still says build 39...weird!!
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I got volume+. I tested poweramp. My ear is not trained enough to notice the difference between it and Google music sound quality doh.gif Tested with real bassy song or it's all bass song (bassotronics), seriously with my noob earphone and noob ears, I can't really see how poweramp does better on low frequency(mentioned by one or two forumers in past few pages) both software gives me almost identical output. I've not tweaked headset settings on Volume+, no equaliser or anything. laugh.gif Only one feature in poweramp that I need. Slide across the album art to change song like Samsung Stock Music player. Not a big deal though laugh.gif

Conclusion: PowerAMP Uninstalled rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 24 2012, 04:33 PM)
+1.. im on twisted rom n the speaker sound is louder than ever...
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I guess they implemented the coding into the ROM.

I am wondering... Will those 'Boost' kill our speaker? Samsung really gave it a low power speaker or is actually a high power speaker but get limited by Google/Samsung through stock rom?
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QUOTE(FuNks @ Jun 24 2012, 05:02 PM)
What Rom and kernel omg
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Stock rom and stock kernel laugh.gif
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QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 24 2012, 05:10 PM)
iwangp
when the speaker is too low,  then u complain about it..
then developer came out with special tweak to make it louder.. then u wonder if it would hurt the speaker..

i guess there is nothing bout the gnex that would satisfy u..

if its that bad,  u should get a diff phone..  hehe
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Erm... Can you just don't think the negative way? I'm just having a question mark in my head, trying to clear it up. I know the tweak does its job. I'm just wondering whether it's purposely limited by Samsung/Google through their software/rom or the speaker of GNex memang so soft/low powered (hardware) doh.gif doh.gif Please la. I'm not quite complaining. It's just a question demanding answer. Provide the answer if you have one. You can choose to be quite when you don't have one icon_rolleyes.gif

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I know I'm bad to write this way but... Seriously... What's this thread for? I got a question, I asked here and you said me complaining. I was like 'WTF' in my mind... Sorry if I offended you or anyone else. doh.gif

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QUOTE(FuNks @ Jun 24 2012, 05:24 PM)
Wtf bbq stock?
Sad. Going back to stock when jb out.
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If you refer my post this morning...

Actually 5hours 45mins is around 5% left.
From 100% to 79%... I unplugged at 100%, played word search then too tired and fall asleep. Woke up about 2 hours later the screen still on doh.gif Check screen on time 2hours 20mins, guess screen on with word search on for 2hours++ doh.gif doh.gif Then morning play play play play until now, I'm charging it.

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 24 2012, 10:04 PM)
If i knew, I would have mentioned it in my previous post tongue.gif
Yup, exactly this. You'll have to reduce the quality if you want to stream faster.

To do that, you'll have to rotate the video to landscape mode, then press on the "HD" button to toggle to low quality (probably 360p or 240p). smile.gif
Do note that there is a difference between HD and HQ. HD = 720p HQ = 480p
I find "HQ" still streams at a tolerable speed.

Otherwise, the browser actually stream just as fast as the youtube app.
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doh.gif I can't stream HD now. Unifi goes haywire vmad.gif mad.gif Or maybe my housemate all PPS/BT-ing vmad.gif
I find that in Browser, certain video can stream 1080p lagless. Some will stream but laggy. I mean laggy not buffering thing but the video is not smooth.
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QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 24 2012, 10:41 PM)
oops.. i guess my sarcasm has got the best of you... sorry .. didnt mean that...sumtime i got carried away when i see the same basic question being asked again n again... forgot that ur new to gnex... my bad... icon_rolleyes.gif

i normally focus on how to make things better.. thus most of the questions that pops out in my head would come from a diff angle..
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how can i make my speaker louder? and not, why gnex speaker sound so weak?
whats the best radio baseband  out there for malaysia? and not, why la gnex data not stable?
cos I know the problem is there, just got to find the best solution...

all ur issue will be solved if u start playing around with it like custom roms, 3rd party launcher, music player etc...
if u stay in stock mode, i guess u'll just have to learn to live with it.. i managed to stay with stock launcher for 6 months...only after the tweak to hide the navi bar came out, i just got to root my phone and go custom...
and how i wish i had done it sooner....

which i would highly suggest u do the same... root n modify it.. it'll solve all ur problem.. i can guarantee it..
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I know the tweaks make things better but that's also why I wondered whether it do any harm to the speaker. But i think samsung won't use so low powered speaker. Should be just software based limitation.

Navi bar... you mean the virtual keys? After that what software you use for navigation? I saw one app name... LMT? or something like that that do the same trick, the circular menu that pop up when you slide in from the side. But the problem is... Its response is too slow. Let me get bored by stock launcher first rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fallout @ Jun 25 2012, 12:41 AM)
Isn't 4.0.4 fixed the low volume?
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blink.gif I'm on 4.0.4. Got fixed? Before this even lower volume??????? Can't imagine how low is it in 4.0.2 doh.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 1:03 am
QUOTE(nitewish @ Jun 25 2012, 12:54 AM)
the audio chipset on the gnex is not so bad actually,
never seen a gnexer hookup a DAC to the OTG cable yet tho..
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"Just got a chance to do a comparison between my S2 and the Galaxy Nexus.

Nexus is clearer overall. Better instrument seperation and detail because of it.
Nexus is punchier not as dull.
Soundstage isn't wider or bigger quite similar in that regard.
Bass amount is similar, just more focused and detailed on the Nexus.
Lower noise floor on the Nexus as well. No noise carried through the head phones from using the screen."

Quoted from head-fi.org wink.gif

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 25 2012, 01:07 AM)
yes...i f i din rmb wrongly 4.0.2 indeed even lower...

since i din stay long on 4.0.2...i don really care...

flashed to 4.0.4 few days after getting the phone laugh.gif
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QUOTE(abundai @ Jun 25 2012, 01:24 PM)
toggling navi bar are useful when u play games that doesnt hide it automatically,  thus u wont accidently hit the back button while playing .. when ur done,  just hit the power button and toggle it back...
but some game not compatible cos the display is stretch a bit..
i dont use circular menu,  so no comment..
the ability to toggle the navi bar from the power menu is perfect for my usage...

i would understand why u would want to play with the stock launcher first,  cos i chose to do the same last time..soon im sure u will join the dark side...its inevitable..
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laugh.gif You're on AOKP? I know AOKP got that feature to hide and show navbar. Since they can make it to toggle the navbar. You try and suggest them to integrate the three buttons into the Power Menu too. Should be even more convenient if you're just going to press Back once or Home once laugh.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 25 2012, 01:50 PM)
The low volume is just how it is programmed in the software. With simple modification or custom ROM, the speaker can be very loud.
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Loud, yes. Very loud... Not really. My roomate S Advance is insanely loud. Even louder than my N82 with Two Speakers. I wonder why don't Samsung throw that speaker into all their phones. It's really freaking loud doh.gif

QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 25 2012, 01:53 PM)
True.  thumbup.gif

@syakirizzat,
It's programmed by software...

Google had written it wrong in the 1st place, causing it to produce low volume sound quality.

After that, on 4.0.4 update, it fixed the problem. No more low volume sound quality!  smile.gif

Or you can always use Custom ROM or some apps like Volume+, DSP Manager, Equalizer, etc to pump your volume!
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When I got it on stock 4.0.4... It's still too soft doh.gif Really need Volume+ to get the speaker to at least give some power.

QUOTE(RazerDeathAdder @ Jun 25 2012, 01:56 PM)
High volume is yes. But only using headphone rite? Not on phone speaker rite?
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Headphone output is insanely loud especially when driving a 16Ohm 95dB sensitivity IEM. My previous phones I go all the way to max but this one. I leave 3~4 bars to max cool.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 25 2012, 02:19 PM)
I never feel a problem with the earphone volume, it's always the loudspeaker only. So I'm referring to loudspeaker volume.
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jun 25 2012, 04:19 PM)
IwanAGP, did you upgraded from Galaxy W??
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QUOTE(nitewish @ Jun 25 2012, 04:45 PM)
mild gadget crazy is an understatement bro ahahaha.
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doh.gif Really mild vmad.gif
If not Mild... I should have...

SGS3, SGTab 7.7 to bring around, New iPad to use at home, HTC One X as backup phone, SGNote for its S-Pen(nothing special actually) etc etc etc icon_idea.gif laugh.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 5:07 pmOh yeah... Just got myself a TPU casing. Previously using IMAK Hardcare(2 pieces type), a lot thicker than this TPU casing and it's real Plastic+it makes sound when you hold one it+it's not 10000% tight(but if it's, it'll be impossible to remove). After changing to TPU casing. It's so much thinner. Add just like 1mm to the phone. RM10, if anyone interested, look into forum. The finishing is not perfect though. I run it through 'flames' (highlighter and candle) to remove the extra rubber/plastics on the edge. Smoother now. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Jun 25 2012, 05:23 PM)
u can get them from official samsung shop
probably get addicted by me muahaha  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Jun 25 2012, 07:04 PM)
Y need to suggest? The 3 buttons already integrated to the power menu if u choose to. The option to do that had been there even before m5.
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