haha.. i already expect that to be happening..

but just hope its not severe and its acceptable.. hehe

i drove the 1st gen of saga n waja b4.. really noise coming out from no where.. lol..

but its acceptable la.. i get for what i paid ma.. lol

what i consider the most is the cruising part.. coz i might be using the PE for cruising in highway always.. hehe

bro have u driven or sit in a saga before? How is the feeling? Compared to Saga, which 1 is more stable when in high speed , 100km/h- 120km/h    on the highway.

Haih.. Plenty of crap happened over a period of few weeks.

My car kena buttsecks, got into a fight with that b@stard. Damage not bad, but what I can't stand is that fella's kurang ajar-ness.

Payment got delayed and split into 3 cheques of different dates

Mom masuk hospital for some health complications.

Currently jobless Samore. Haiz.

Ok  , I did not know that....it seems Preve start button steps even worse than I thought....question is why implement this feature that does not help in anyway for a modern car but actually makes it worse...

What about the OWV issue?

i everyday sure come in persona thread read 1, jz never post.
agreed. but at least persona thread here got some "technical" discussion. over "my car" thread there, dunno wat they talking abt, troll too much off-topic. if i ask solution for some prob on my car, either got shoot back "nothing is perfect", or get ignored completely, like it was sensitive issue.
thanks for warm welcomed.

Ya, i rmb seeing someone here stating his car is persona hatchback something, i tot it's joking?   really is gen2 ar?

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Pedobear's cousin WantheBear and his Persona Sportsback. 

And his sidekick, Ah Que who went to rearing fish. Nice chaps.

Preve use the iafm+,d hp stated in brouchure onli 108hp and torque is 150nm.almost same as iafm.why u all stil plan to change it if possible?is it reali can gain in performance?

need to source out which shop able to tune our original ECU...

lol.. Ya i also plan to do one shot too.. Since its quite cheap.. IF not using STP only and want to mix and match with other insulation stuffs can even reduce the price much further.

Those interested in doing insulation can PM me or post here so I can do a BULK for it. Forget about installing those stuff urself and saving a few bucks. I have tried doing it before and its hard work. Better left to the pro..

Btw im planning to do it only somewhere around end of oct or nov only. 

try thinner. should be able to clean it.~~

Saga also same price.. Covers all small to mid size sedan.. If u got other ppl planning to join also do bring them in.. Its not strictly for Persona.

Maybe can arouse some other girls in the process.

Influenced is one thing, money is another thing. I thought he dun have the money for it.

Possible bankrupt. 

After considering the advantage of IAFM vs CPS, I'm glad they actually use IAFM instead of CPS. Although CPS are stronger at higher speed, the major weakness of PE is actually at the lower end torque. IAFM helps a lot at low and mid-end torque improvement. CPS improve from mid to high end only. With CPS starting with total lack of power until it reach mid-end, proton made the right decision for the mass market usage.

Ever notice Preve don't use CPS anymore...their turbo version practically blast CPS out of the way liao...So only IAFM for the low-mid end and turbo for the massive mid-end torque remains for mass market buyers.

haiz.. that's why lo.. really pening kepala oh~~   

i wan this, she wan that...lol..

eh bro.. i like ur quote.. pahang really many tortoise drivers!

really no idea why all of them are driving so slow 

one thing there is a misconception.. Even if Vios handles lousily. It still can go around corners. It still can accelerate hard due to combination of good low end torque and lightweight.. which can consider double advantage over PE. and since in car park, the speed of travel is low.. most most around 60kmh only. it might look like fast going round corners but its due to psychology due to the place being in a enclosed environment with a lot of stationary cars around. When i drove the Vios.. It felt so light and nimble and revvy.. Eventhough its not good at the high end. 90% of the time a Vios engine will beat a PE engine in utility usefulness..

i wonder what engine is used in alza. i dont like the response in it. but they say is toyota engine.