QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 25 2012, 03:02 PM)
Handling /= Speed. That's why they can fly. ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XL-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling
►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XL-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling
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Jul 25 2012, 03:03 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:05 PM
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the GUY u guys talking must be me lo!
bo bian.. last weekends.. the sa called me that the car still not there yet.. then this morning baru i got the call from my sa saying that 2 new persona has just arrived.. silver and bronze.. but i mana got time go see leh.. working leh..lol.. i noe i am a poorfag dont fucuk me from behind ma.. lol This post has been edited by nicgoh: Jul 25 2012, 03:06 PM |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 25 2012, 03:05 PM) the GUY u guys talking must be me lo! bo bian.. last weekends.. the sa called me that the car still not there yet.. then this morning baru i got the call from my sa saying that 2 new persona has just arrived.. silver and bronze.. but i mana got time go see leh.. working leh..lol.. i noe i am a poorfag dont fucuk me from behind ma.. lol Dun worry. All those belakang mari people is not here. |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 03:07 PM) lol.. since the persona standard still not here yet.. i ma went to another thread lo.. lol..i will admit.. dare to say dare to admit ma..lol.. eh yea lo.. i did went to the showroom last sunday and saw a B line persona.. how come the rear passengers seat macam got a bit cramp har? and the seat like 90 degrees straight? quite uncomfortable.. but the front one was just nice |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 25 2012, 02:45 PM) After considering the advantage of IAFM vs CPS, I'm glad they actually use IAFM instead of CPS. Although CPS are stronger at higher speed, the major weakness of PE is actually at the lower end torque. IAFM helps a lot at low and mid-end torque improvement. CPS improve from mid to high end only. With CPS starting with total lack of power until it reach mid-end, proton made the right decision for the mass market usage. CPS doesn't have IAFM, but have VIM which is an electronic controlled version of IAFM. While lower end torque still loose to 4G18 (but that's because 4G18 is SOHC where as Campro is DOHC), but it is comparable to IAFM.Ever notice Preve don't use CPS anymore...their turbo version practically blast CPS out of the way liao...So only IAFM for the low-mid end and turbo for the massive mid-end torque remains for mass market buyers. Proton did away with CPS for CFE because CPS could not meet emmission requirements. |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 25 2012, 03:11 PM) lol.. since the persona standard still not here yet.. i ma went to another thread lo.. lol.. Fucuk the back seat lah. You are driver or passenger? i will admit.. dare to say dare to admit ma..lol.. eh yea lo.. i did went to the showroom last sunday and saw a B line persona.. how come the rear passengers seat macam got a bit cramp har? and the seat like 90 degrees straight? quite uncomfortable.. but the front one was just nice QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 25 2012, 03:11 PM) Driver have grown titanium balls. Cannot feel anything. |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:16 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 25 2012, 03:02 PM) Yes, its that terrible. Vios and City never mention handling as its one of its primary features. I owned 2 City 2006 VTEC, 1 lightly modded with airmaster bk that weight the car down, 4 pt heavy UR front strut and 1 default rear crossbar strut. Can go 180km/h without issue but car a bit floaty liao, still grounded. The other stock city can reach 180km/h faster coz lighter but darn floaty. Dugong with almost similar with with City BUT HAS EVEN WORSE HANDLING and BODYROLL due to its much softer suspension (City VTEC had a shorter, sportier and harder suspension for added handling but less comfortable than VIOS). So can imagine how VIOS handles at high speed, slight bump, we will have a third rate air asia flight on the the road. Same with those tin can myvi at high speed. PE due to its design and weight are actually a good highway high speed car, very grounded and stable....hit to 130km/h easily without noticing it....except for the engine noise. My fav 2006 modded city could not match its comfort and stability....except for the incredible vtec+cvt torque.....still trump PE from torque climbing aspect....even at 180km/h don't feel out of breath but for the stability....I have to slow down....my insurance still not enuf for my kids...my wife warn... Added on July 25, 2012, 3:24 pm QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 25 2012, 03:16 PM) my mum lo.. when she sit at the rear seat.. straight away she complain cramp.. If you compare with Saga, its not cramp BUT it IS NOT very comfortable due to the straighter seat. I'm not sure why but somehow the H-Line rear seat seems more comfortable than the M-B Line, maybe the seating materials, ie, leather makes a difference? then she sit into preve and she just love preve but preve QC problem very kaolat lo.. Long distance passenger seating behind used to other cars sure complain wan...so PE is essentially either a long distance 2 seater car or a short distance 4 seater cars, IMO. This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 25 2012, 03:24 PM |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:24 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:29 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:31 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:33 PM
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Jul 25 2012, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 25 2012, 03:29 PM) haiz.. that's why lo.. really pening kepala oh~~ i wan this, she wan that...lol.. eh bro.. i like ur quote.. pahang really many tortoise drivers! really no idea why all of them are driving so slow And BTW ayam from Pahang too. Problem? |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 03:24 PM) Now NIC is worried abt the QC, seems to have lots of small issues all over. Massive rattling on dashboard while accelerating from low end, OVR OWR errr...forgot..whatever issue that should not have be. I would wait till at least to SE or FL version release only dare to even consider the option of changing to Preve.I go for PE precisely becoz it look good and PE have mostly fixed all earlier issue. Now quite satisfied with it especially its precision handling allows me to swerve in and out like nobody business. Maybe its the cheaper proton mentality causing me to take risk where I would never do with my city and civic....primarily its the handling that allows me to swerve, cut, etc with confidence...I think. |
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Jul 25 2012, 03:55 PM
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At 130KM/h, I don't even hear the engine noise. More than that, yes.
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Jul 25 2012, 04:00 PM
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Before LCP, yes, don't notice, after LCP more obvious for me especially on higher end speed.....thats why earlier consider changing to Mytheo LCP...but in Abong opinion, not worth it for the slight improvement.
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Jul 25 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 25 2012, 03:34 PM) And BTW ayam from Pahang too. Problem? paiseh.. sry boss Added on July 25, 2012, 4:01 pm QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 25 2012, 03:35 PM) Now NIC is worried abt the QC, seems to have lots of small issues all over. Massive rattling on dashboard while accelerating from low end, OVR OWR errr...forgot..whatever issue that should not have be. I would wait till at least to SE or FL version release only dare to even consider the option of changing to Preve. only you understand me bro I go for PE precisely becoz it look good and PE have mostly fixed all earlier issue. Now quite satisfied with it especially its precision handling allows me to swerve in and out like nobody business. Maybe its the cheaper proton mentality causing me to take risk where I would never do with my city and civic....primarily its the handling that allows me to swerve, cut, etc with confidence...I think. those are the reason why i am holding back myself towards preve.. huhu.. my mum doesn't know the problems ma.. even thou i sudah byk kali explain to her.. lol This post has been edited by nicgoh: Jul 25 2012, 04:01 PM |
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