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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XL-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling

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post Jun 12 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 12 2012, 08:22 PM)
Let's just say Havoline is slightly better than Magnatec.
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hmmm Still prefer Cusco..

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 12 2012, 08:24 PM)
hmm.gif Few dollars only? Betul keh?
Magnatec banyak tipu in the market.
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Few dollars as in less than Rm100?
Magnatec u go buy at Tesco, Jusco or Carrefour lah..
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post Jun 12 2012, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 12 2012, 08:32 PM)
sudah polish sebelum dinner, ngam ngam tadi habis ngan coating lepas dinner, tapi ni lubang macam mana nak settle?

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Dont see any big love scratches also..

Wei u want to upload pics means..

1) go to http://www.pictr.com/
2) after choosing image, click on "resize image"
3) Specify a value of 1000 or lesser.. (those who still stucked with CRT monitors or old lappys will suffer lah.. Newer monitor with HD resolution would be just nice.

Now u know how to upload??
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post Jun 12 2012, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 12 2012, 08:37 PM)
doh.gif Why take side view? And the pictar so damn big.  shakehead.gif
blink.gif Like that also few dollars ah? US or Aus?  whistling.gif
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Yeah few dollars mah.. u think msian currency value damn high ah? nowadays want to go out for a day to enjoy min also need RM50.. no RM50 then impossible.
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post Jun 12 2012, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 12 2012, 08:55 PM)
maybe i tail gate someone's car otw back to campus then they hate me and scratch scratch poke poke it  sad.gif
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With ur mineral oil and heavy engine and lousy acceleration.. Only a 660EX kancil driven by a lady with a worn out clutch plate will hate u for tailgating.
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post Jun 12 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 12 2012, 08:58 PM)
i rike to tailgate black people motor woh
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u rike, but can u? U want try tailgate me? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 12 2012, 09:00 PM)
dun drive so fast then i can  wub.gif buttsek also can cool2.gif
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Haiz u want buttsecks means have to catch up with other ppl.. Not tell other ppl slowdown.. U got see other ppl farking time tell to slow down so u can catch up or not?

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 13 2012, 03:10 PM)
Still no update about my car from CoSE. Are they transplanting new gearbox? biggrin.gif
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De-NGV-ing ur car..

QUOTE(caliber45 @ Jun 13 2012, 04:02 PM)
hello guys, just got my black new B-line persona 2days ago smile.gif

All's good Except.. the driver side door feels to hard to pull..rather like a stuck feeling and when u pull harder then only it opens. Other doors works fine.

when i take to SC at section 13 pj this morn, they say its normal and u have to pull this angle.. After i took it back, thers hardly a difference. But other doors are so smooth to open.

another thing the FC. :'( i hope its only temporary. I filled up full tank last night near sunway giza(kota damansara) drove to SS2, then home in Jln Gasing. This morning i drove to work at Section13(near SC). 

The fuel meter has 5 points/bars.

It completely dropped an entire bar this morning. Meter points the 4th bar. Wow i hardly went anywhere! I pumped RM60, full tank. So this means RM12 for half day driving? sad.gif I've yet to calculate the proper way L/KM. Will do it soon.

SC did some tuning this morning i hope there'll be improvements on FC..

what are my expectations for the FC should be ?
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Word of advise.. New cars, new engine, needs to break in.. Ur FC will improve as ur driving skills improves to suit the car.. Ur engine will only really be optimum around 20k+ km.. Dont believe see my fuelly.. 40k and FC still going lower.

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 13 2012, 05:42 PM)
if water sip in into the door inside leh, thru the slit at miror there? can claim kah cause i tried after wash car, lap finish dry dry liao, then wind down window, and make it back up, window goes wet again
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U buy Rolls Royce or Bugatti Veyron also will be like that lah.. Omg u need to get out of this planet or stop driving cars..

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 13 2012, 06:19 PM)
CoSE call me, said the chief technician does not recommend using Liqui-Moly. He said LM is for Diesel engines. Warned me that performance of the car will be affected if I insist to proceed.

I proceeded. whistling.gif
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hahhahaha.. Spend so much ady.. had to pour in lah.. But i would have to take the chief technician words with a bit weight too.. They get more data than other ppl will.. They at least know what they are doing.. LM itu germany mari.. Itu germany made engine quality and tolerance totally different compared to ours.. so his point seems legit.
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post Jun 14 2012, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 14 2012, 12:54 AM)
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LOL wanted to put this meme but internet too slow.. haiz..
No i love this planet, he should be the one leaving the planet.
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post Jun 14 2012, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 14 2012, 01:09 AM)
The worst part is he's about to breed with underage girls and lay eggs. Then the world will be filled with bugs like him.
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Dont worry.. Basic instinct from girls are still not dead yet.. They only mate with Alpha males, not zeta losers..
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post Jun 14 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 14 2012, 01:25 AM)
They are young girls!! 12 yrs old and below! He'll appear with his pedobear hairstyle and pedo costume to trick these girls, then they'll kena trick into thinking his 2" is a lollipop with strawberry cream fillings!!  ohmy.gif  icon_question.gif
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Sending my n1gga kid with his toys.. Ur argument is invalid.

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post Jun 14 2012, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 14 2012, 01:47 AM)
brows.gif Everyday go the factory research eh? whistling.gif
That's africa. Where a n1gga kid's schlong is at least 3 times bigger than pedo's. Pedo will die being sod0mized instead.
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Thats y im sending him.. Bring the rain to the girls.. Show them real love.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 08:36 AM)
hi guys..need advise..my persona have issue with engine oil leaking after changing timing belt...already done change gasket but still leaking...is it possible the leaking problem came from the oil seals?.. (haven't check that yet)...very frustrated bout it...any sifu can help...

one more thing, my engine tensioner bearing give lot of high pitch noise when the aircond compressor kicks in...any advise for it?...

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It depends.. How u notice that there is oil leak? U saw oil on the floor? Identify where is it leaking out from first.. Can be from the gasket, to an improperly screwed in oil filter improper installation of oil seals.

How old is ur car? how many KM mileage.. If compressor kicks in and screeching noise comes out then most likely its belt tensioner not providing enough tension..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:21 AM)
hello.

have anyone tried Digital Engine Optimizer (MAP/MAF piggyback) from drexchan? how much ah? can use with campro?
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Hehe.. I got test test sikit.. Quite good, boleh tahan, gear shifts amazingly smooth.. But the price top up a bit can get piggyback ady.. doh.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jun 14 2012, 11:33 AM)
1k++? hmm..better piggyback like this.
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nope.. he stated 8xx..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jun 14 2012, 11:49 AM)
EA testing a DEO (similar piggyback), perhap can go for a try...
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Thats the thing he is talking about lah..

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post Jun 14 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 01:07 PM)
my car is 2 years ++...mileage is around 120k km...i change non ori belt tensioner...if i change back to ori proton, will the screeching noise gone?.. hmm.gif

oil leak all the way to bottom...lots of oil at my car park...suspect is oil seals..have to open that part again... doh.gif  doh.gif

the oil came from this part (pic is not mine) -->>

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Ahh ic.. For the screeching sound, high chances that the tensioner has lost its ability to provide enough tension or the belt u are using maybe of not good quality and has sag so much till the tensioner could not take up the slack of it.

As for the oil leak, its pretty obvious its the oil seals that have given way, when was the last time u changed the oil seals and timing belt and tensioner and what brand was it if u know?

Normally a proper timing belt replacement package will have
Timing belt
Drive belt
timing belt tensioner
drive belt tensioner
crank oil seal
cam oil seals
tensioner bearing

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post Jun 14 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(caliber45 @ Jun 14 2012, 01:51 PM)
Oh, thats a little comforting to hear. I really hope so. I just took it out of SC yesterday noon after i complained abt door handle & FC. I think theres just a tiny difference. Im gonna do Fuelly stats right after i empty this tank.
erm a simple google shows thats the shiny fat chrome tubes coming out from the engine block, looks expensive haha.
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Also do rmb choosing the right engine oil also gives u better fc..
for 5k service use Castrol Magnatec 10W-40.. Best Semi-sync, for Fully sync use Cusco / Castrol Edge Titanium..
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 02:01 PM)
so, will the non ori tensioner belt damage my tensioner bearing?...if not i think i will change the tensioner belt to ori proton one?..do you know how much its cost?... hmm.gif

bought bosch 100k km timing belt package from bro airline...got timing belt, tensioner bearing, 3 oil seals only if i'm not mistaken...compare the oil seals before installation..its perfect fit...is there any other reason why its still leaking? hmm.gif
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not necessary to use original timing belt.. They are priced more expensive than Aftermarkets and not necessarity better..
What i can recommend u is change Gates timing belt.. The whole package comes with timing belt + oil seals + bearings around RM300, then u have to buy drive belt - Bando recommended (dunno how much) and tensioner which would cost around around 150 based on ori price..

Or u can just go to EA there everything drex kasi settle.. haha..

QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 02:05 PM)
haha..i'm new here...didn't know have mileage competition... laugh.gif  laugh.gif ...the car have been drove all around peninsular malaysia...still in stock condition...no modification at all.. flex.gif  flex.gif

*can pass me some popcorn?*
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Wah.. how much of fuel u could have saved if u modded ur car a bit to save fuel.. hehehe..
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 14 2012, 02:21 PM)
My persona started with 12-13L/KM.
Slowly reduces to 10, 9, 8, 7+
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No wonder u behtahan need to change to NGV..
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 02:33 PM)
ok bro..thanks for the advice...this leaking and screeching noise problem really make me  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

hehhe..really dont know how to modified it to save fuel...nowadays my FC is kinda high..pump rm50 only can go 350 km...JB to KL..90% highway 10% city...speed 100 km/h ~ 140km/h rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Erm bro.. haha.. Thats the standard FC for Persona lah... haha..

For FC optimization
change extractor (can change full set exhaust if u feeling rich)
Works Engineering lightened crank pulley
Denso IT20 Iridium Plugs
Works Engineering Drop-in Filter
use Cusco/Castrol engine oil..

Hmm travel between JB kl all the time.. u jb punya orang ah?

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post Jun 14 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(caliber45 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:37 PM)
Wait... So mengsuan's persona is running NGV right now?
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Yeah.. he converted his petrol engine to run on NGV and also using engine oil which is suitable for diesel engine in his Campro.. He is going to testament to others the durability of Campro IAFM engines.
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:45 PM)
i see poison sneaking out from zeng...  laugh.gif
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Long time no poison ppl ady.. haha.. Time to poison one.. tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 02:54 PM)
really..i thought my FC is high..my bad ...thanks for the advise..now i know where to start...just change my spark plug to NGK G-Power platinum last week...(budget is tight to go for iridium )...looking for Works or simota drop in filter...(K&N is out of budget  )...i have very little knowledge about extractor and crank pulley..will look to it...using eneos 10W 40 semi syn + revo...happy with it...(will try Liqui moly as recommended by bro elton, doing threebond with him last time)....

juz going to JB for holiday..lots of traveldue to balik kampung to kelantan and pahang...hahaha...i kena poison already...
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IT20 Denso can get for RM130 only.. hehe.. If u want sources i can direct u there..
Works is better than K&N.. We have done the research.. The list that i gave u in the previous post is all to improve ur FC.. Wont worsen it..

QUOTE(samfisher @ Jun 14 2012, 03:39 PM)
hehehe..my car is already 2 years 5 month.. biggrin.gif ...the quality of the oil seals i cannot comment...1st time saw it at that time...will have open up again to check...


Added on June 14, 2012, 3:44 pm

heard bout that rumours, but base on feedback for LM, all very satisfied...i'm ok with eneos (10w 40 is rm95 at my place)..just want to try something new... laugh.gif

quite agree with you about the air filter... nod.gif ...just want to get that low torque power a bit...easy for overtaking..i think change extractor and crank pulley will help with that...am i right?...will it hurt FC?... hmm.gif
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Next time just be safe.. Get Original Gates belt and install.. U can search for many traders selling it in automotive garage..

QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 14 2012, 04:44 PM)
Oooo...i got my Eneos Semi Rm 90/= ,  Why don't u try Caltex Havoline Semi 10w-40.. is a good oil. Price a bit high RM 104/= if not wrong...only can get from caltex station
My current tyre , is it time to change?
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Ur tire still a lot of thread.. I just went to do alignment just now..
My tire inside half also botak habis, but outside half still have thread..
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No wonder i can corner faster than F1 car.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 14 2012, 05:03 PM)
wlao me started 13 drop to 7 now goes back 10 sweat.gif
i also need to change NGV?
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Ur house nearby there got place to pump NGV or not? If u have to go far far to pump then forget it..

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