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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XL-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling

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V12Kompressor
post Jul 1 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Jul 1 2012, 01:43 PM)
Orly? Wow.. That's something new..
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put it simple term, the CVT is capable of becoming two different gearbox.

put in D, and it behaves like a normal gearbox, with acceptable acceleration and top speed limited by the engine capacity.

put in L, and it turns into a close ratio gearbox, just to push acceleration and sacrifice top speed in the process.
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 1 2012, 01:46 PM)
put it simple term, the CVT is capable of becoming two different gearbox.

put in D, and it behaves like a normal gearbox, with acceptable acceleration and top speed limited by the engine capacity.

put in L, and it turns into a close ratio gearbox, just to push acceleration and sacrifice top speed in the process.
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I see.. I see.. So, for this 20k kms u travelled with your car.. How u find the overall performance of the car? Any major issue arised? Do u have any problems with the abs system so far?

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:33 PM)
I see.. I see.. So, for this 20k kms u travelled with your car.. How u find the overall performance of the car? Any major issue arised? Do u have any problems with the abs system so far?
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performance quite oklah, for a 1.3L car. Can climb to 110kmh effortlessly. The only issue is the horn switch always burn... doh.gif doh.gif. AN issue inherited fromt he Saga BLM. ABS system works fine so far... Saved me from rear ending an X-Trail on PLUS two weeks ago. hmm.gif
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post Jul 1 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 1 2012, 02:36 PM)
performance quite oklah, for a 1.3L car. Can climb to 110kmh effortlessly. The only issue is the horn switch always burn... doh.gif doh.gif. AN issue inherited fromt he Saga BLM. ABS system works fine so far... Saved me from rear ending an X-Trail on PLUS two weeks ago. hmm.gif
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I see.. Good to hear that.. Coz heard a few cases of flx rear drum producing guukk guukk sound coming to SC to complaint.. How was the cabin NVH? U find it satisfactory?
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QUOTE(abong8 @ Jul 1 2012, 03:15 PM)
I see.. Good to hear that.. Coz heard a few cases of flx rear drum producing guukk guukk sound coming to SC to complaint.. How was the cabin NVH? U find it satisfactory?
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my rear drum brake so far is still ok, no gluk gluk gluk.

as for cabin nvh, satisfactory after sendiri DIY soundproofing. laugh.gif
The roof is a b**** to soundproof but after doing that the effect is like heaven and earth specially during rain.
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post Jul 1 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 1 2012, 03:39 PM)
my rear drum brake so far is still ok, no gluk gluk gluk.

as for cabin nvh, satisfactory after sendiri DIY soundproofing. laugh.gif
The roof is a b**** to soundproof but after doing that the effect is like heaven and earth specially during rain.
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U did it to your roof & door is it?
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QUOTE(abong8 @ Jul 1 2012, 04:29 PM)
U did it to your roof & door is it?
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post Jul 1 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 1 2012, 10:34 AM)
4-1 and 4-2-1 experience in Saga FLX

4-1:
Enter KESAS from Kota Kemuning and accelerate all the way till 180kmh. Drive sedately after passing by Kewajipan tol (120-140kmh). After exit Plaza Tol Awan Besar and entering MRR2, fuel bar drop a bar.

4-2-1:
Enter KESAS from Kota Kemuning and accelerate all the way till 180kmh. Drive sedately after passing by Kewajipan tol (120-140kmh). Abt 5-6 km after Kewajipan toll, fuel bar drop a bar.
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saga flx cvt can go up to 180 ar..so good..my persona 1.6 auto oso 180kmh lo..haiz..so tat means 4-1is more better at high rpm range and save petrol oso..
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jun 30 2012, 11:17 PM)
I installed Ultra Racing 3 point racing strut bar today.
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How much? What is the improvement?
I want improve cornering performance, an expert recommended me install rear anti-roll bar.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 1 2012, 07:57 PM)
saga flx cvt can go up to 180 ar..so good..my persona 1.6 auto oso 180kmh lo..haiz..so tat means 4-1is more better at high rpm range and save petrol oso..
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hmm.gif should i install 4-1 also since i travel a lot....
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How's everyone doing? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 1 2012, 08:41 PM)
How much? What is the improvement?
I want improve cornering performance, an expert recommended me install rear anti-roll bar.
hmm.gif should i install 4-1 also since i travel a lot....
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Small improvement to be honest. The steering feels sharper now, that's it. Our car already have rear anti-roll bar, aftermarket ones are to upgrade to a thicker bar. If you have the budget, try front anti-roll bar. I think that's about RM400+ (?)

Btw, I sometimes just wonder, if custom 4-1 extractor may not always be better than stock, why not stick to stock 4-1 extractor? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by mengsuan: Jul 1 2012, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jul 1 2012, 09:05 PM)
Small improvement to be honest. The steering feels sharper now, that's it. Our car already have rear anti-roll bar, aftermarket ones are to upgrade to a thicker bar. If you have the budget, try front anti-roll bar. I think that's about RM400+ (?)
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ur front strut bar how much?

Front got ani-roll bar one meh?
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 1 2012, 09:06 PM)
ur front strut bar how much?

Front got ani-roll bar one meh?
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The price I got isn't cheap, I willingly paid it as it's someone I know. RM178

I'm not sure, something like this? http://www.overboost-motorsports.com/product-604120.html


Added on July 1, 2012, 9:12 pmActually I also dunno why itchy hand went to install. The stock handling is already very good laugh.gif

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post Jul 1 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jul 1 2012, 09:09 PM)
The price I got isn't cheap, I willingly paid it as it's someone I know. RM178

I'm not sure, something like this? http://www.overboost-motorsports.com/product-604120.html


Added on July 1, 2012, 9:12 pmActually I also dunno why itchy hand went to install. The stock handling is already very good laugh.gif
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i go UR official website dun have front anti-roll bar one leh...
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Catalog.asp?...=Persona&page=1
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:19 PM

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what does side lower bar do?
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:24 PM

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For FF car, usually a thicker ARB is needed in the rear to reduce understeer. The Persona should already have a stock front ARB.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 1 2012, 09:24 PM)
For FF car, usually a thicker ARB is needed in the rear to reduce understeer. The Persona should already have a stock front ARB.
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We have stock rear ARB that can be seen when you look under the car. Do you see the front ARB in your car? I don't.


Added on July 1, 2012, 9:38 pm
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 1 2012, 09:13 PM)
i go UR official website dun have front anti-roll bar one leh...
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Catalog.asp?...=Persona&page=1
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I have not seen the whole product offering for Persona. You need to check with one of those seller.

This post has been edited by mengsuan: Jul 1 2012, 09:38 PM
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jul 1 2012, 09:37 PM)
We have stock rear ARB that can be seen when you look under the car. Do you see the front ARB in your car? I don't.
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For that I need to look at the undercarriage of the Persona, but I can't seem to find any pictures on google.

For my Saga, I know where it is. Actually we were just as puzzled in the Saga thread, no one seems to know where the heck is the stock front ARB until one member pointed it out to us doh.gif

So, since the Saga has a front ARB, I assume the Persona also has one hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 1 2012, 07:57 PM)
saga flx cvt can go up to 180 ar..so good..my persona 1.6 auto oso 180kmh lo..haiz..so tat means 4-1is more better at high rpm range and save petrol oso..
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U drive fast-fast, sure no save petrol wann..


QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jul 1 2012, 09:05 PM)
Small improvement to be honest. The steering feels sharper now, that's it. Our car already have rear anti-roll bar, aftermarket ones are to upgrade to a thicker bar. If you have the budget, try front anti-roll bar. I think that's about RM400+ (?)

Btw, I sometimes just wonder, if custom 4-1 extractor may not always be better than stock, why not stick to stock 4-1 extractor? tongue.gif
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Aftermarket extractor are better than stock since it is without catcon..
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post Jul 1 2012, 09:59 PM

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With the 3 point strut bar the car feels more solid. I like doing hard turns sometimes knowing that the Persona can handle such stuff brows.gif. The 3 point strut bar does make it better but overall you won't feel much difference.

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