hey guys, anybody can give some advise about which 1 to choose fz20,fz30,fz5 or D50. im kinda in a dillema here, i dont know which 1 to choose from. Coz i read a review in dpreview.com regarding the fz30 produces alot of noise at ISO 400 and there are not many improvements from its precedessor(fz 20) and the image quality improvement is not significant.

my main of purpose buying one of this camera is bcoz it has
1.12xoptical zoom
2. image stabilizer
3.size of the camera is not big

i like to travel around and like to shoot night scenes like fireworks, building architecture, indoor low-light conditions.Any other option bside fz(less expensive 1)...do keep in mind i prefer the digi cam not too bulky.

thanks yah..

This post has been edited by nelson_hew: Jan 9 2006, 07:19 PM

i found that fz5 is not enough for me but for PnS is ok, can obtain vivid colour from it. oh ya, i hate the lens cap of fz5.

fz5 will do

300 max? surely nikon D50 .. also can consider FZ30

definitely D50.

hmm...ok then...now the market price is around rm2900 rite? and D70 is rm3600+ rite? where can i get the best price?? i heard tht tarita and bintang maju is quite reasonable..

D50 is not small and D50 dont hav 12x optical zoom (unless you buy tele lens) D50 dont have image stabilizer

Small = fz5

but i prefer D50 tho.

hmm .. bump for the thread coz i wanna hear about some opinion on d50

please remember that if you buy a DSLR,you will need to spend another RM5000-20,000 or more for lens and accessories.

if you want to travel alot and don't want bulky cameras,go for compact cams...DLSR is a NO for you

haha thanks

actually, the D50 is small, from a certain point of view.

yeah i keep remind myself and my mom tht it would be a huge investment buying dslr as my mom is sponsoring my cam..at first want to buy fz5 coz then mom not sponsoring but afterward she want to sponsor and gave me a budget of rm3k. she said y not buy a really good 1...

i will be goin2uk for studying by the end of this year so i might travel al lot and take lots of pictures as im quite interested in photography...thts y huge dillema lar...how bout buy sony's p200 and after ward invest in dslr?

some guys advise recommend me buy D50, since im a noob, he says u will eventually grow by learning all those funtions and takes lots of photos and experimenting it, eventually u will be good at it...

kind of curious how u guys decided to use dslr camera? since u know it is going to be a huge investment buying those accesorries, wht give u the urge of buying those camera, is it for work purposes, hobby?

thanks for the advise guys...help very appreciated

i still say go for the D50. or if u are worried that you will suddenly lose interest, get a 2d hand film slr since film stuff dont depreciate in value as quickly as digital bodies (that way u can sell it off at around the same price u got it for!)

just get Canon A620...if you want handy and light weight and not bulky

currently(until today) i invested about RM13k-14k for my DSLR

and i think you can't stop investing lens

things you need to buy with DSLR:
1.Body
2.Lens
3.Speedlight
4.Lens filter
5.Tripod/Monopod(non cheap stuffs)
6.Camera bag
7.Cleaning kits
8.Memory Cards
9.OTG HDD
10.Spare battery

the list goes on!!!

the lens alone can cost you RM20k-30k

can't he just stick with the kit lens and built in flash for few years than upgrade it if he want to or when he reach pro level ?

Compare with prosumer at least there will be space for upgrading right ? Basically i believe he can take good photo and survive without any addition investment, just my 2cents.

of cos unless he is the type that cannot control himself and go on buying sphere automatically until he is pokai than just get a compact cam. For a beginner just dun blame the lens if u can't take good photo.

yesterday i wen to this shop called key color in mid valley.The d50 kit alone is rm2800 and if buy package is rm3199. which include:
1GB SD Card
Large nikon camera bag
Small camera case
Screen protector
Tripod
Additional compatible 3rd party battery

however since my mom is sponsoring..she is not in favor of the 2 camera bags and the tripod bcoz i have a backpack(quite large) and the tripod not really necessary. but the seller said cant seperate all the accesories bcoz all come in 1 package. wht i want to know is it is necessary to buy the camera bags? the tripod dont know is it good quality or not. eh how much does a normal quality tripod cost?

This post has been edited by nelson_hew: Jan 15 2006, 06:49 AM

haha i will only use the kit lens 1st, try to experiment it, if i cant get a good picture from the kit lens tht means i still have a lot to learn, me have2 understand the limitation of the camera and fully utilise all the funcstions from the cam.Along the way, i might know wht lens i needed most and buy tht lens, i wont simply buy loads of lens, in the end still cant get good pics or not using them at all !! so step by step ler... so hopefully all the LY sifus might help me improve or give suggestion on how to improve my skills yah

well...if you buy D50,i can recommend you my friend's shop in Sg Wang to you

D50 kit lens sux to the max
i used to own D50 and D70s together now moving forward to D2x

18-55 is having limitation...since it is not and IF lens,you will find that it is not that nice and the aperture rate is not good. when you hit 55mm...you pics will have slightly soft and not sharp.

the basic lens you need is a prime lens,wide angle lens for lanscape and tele-zoom lens for indoor and outdoor shoot out

the lens is a necessary!!!

if you want to know more...i can teach you more

a lot of ppl are selling their d50 sets in MIR FTZ,
do search around there for good bargains

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/ftz/index.php3

use d50 as keyword

well the camera bags and the tripods will definitely be the cheapo variety. a good tripod is a must (a decent manfrotto legs+head should be around RM400+). camera bags i generally find not so important, not with the amount of gear u are beginning with. fyi, i just dump my cameras into a backpack...and chuck the flash in too.

so erm buy the D50 body only and buy other lens right?well is ur fren's shop can help me with tht? u know la budget quite tight. dont think it would be enuf to buy a wide angle lens and tele zoom lens and the D50 body all in rm3k rite? coz i still need to buy a SD card and another 3rd party battery for spare use. would like to buy this week...im hands are itching for it hahaha .so babyk when u free this week or u juz pm me ur fren shop and i go there hehe

thanks for the help babyk and the rest of u guys, u've been great..cheers to all LY kaki's

perhaps you can nick a used 18-70 DX from someone on the net. that lens should easily beat the 18-55. while i have no experience with the 18-55, it cant be all that bad, but i guess you'll be wanting more soon so the best budget starter would be a 18-70. dunno about u but i think that single lens should keep you occupied enough until u get some moolah for a telephoto. you probably can ditch the spare battery too.

eh haha now considering konica minolta 5D...haiyo...so many choices........btw the 2nd hand D50 with nikon 18-70mm dx is sold (posted 2 days only) so now looking at KM 5D...

i wish my mum can buy me a DSLR too like yours

i think KM 5D is a good choice too since you mentioned OIS earlier.
since you want to take low light indoor, get yourself 50mm prime for rm390

HAHAHA bought my D50 liao, thanks u guys for taking time to give me advises. Cheers