Just came back from DigitalMall, asking price of RX100, was quoted RM2000 cash (with ori case + 8GB + screen protector).

Early this year, the price was RM20xx... not much of a difference. Hopefully when the new RX100M2 comes out, RX100 price will drop further.

If you are interested in reading RX100M2 review. Here is one (in German but google translated in Eng)

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=a...hot-dsc-rx100ii

RX100M2 camera only? free leather case, card, extra battery???

This post has been edited by cactuscch: Aug 5 2013, 10:49 PM

I have a question about RX100's battery (NP-BX1) & charger (AC-UD10). I'm wondering whether I can use Sony CP-EL powerbank to charge NP-BX1?

Battery - NP-BX1: 3.6V - 4.5Wh, 1240mAh
AC Charger - AC-UD10 : OUTPUT 5V - 1500mA
Sony powerbank CP-EL (Li-on battery: 3.6V - 2000mAh): INPUT 5V - 0.5A, OUTPUT 5V - 1A 5Wh

I've 2 questions:

1. Since the power bank output is only 1A (or 1000mA), doesn't match the 1500mA of the AC Charger. Will the powerbank damage the battery?

2. When I plug in the USB cable to RX100 to transfer photo, I found that the ON switch lights up orange color, which indicate charging in progress. If I'm not mistaken, normal USB 2.0 supplies 500mA only. If forgot to bring charger, it is okay to just plug it in the USB to charge?

This post has been edited by cactuscch: Aug 23 2013, 08:16 PM

Thanks for your reassurance. I tested to charge the camera with the powerbank and it works. If I switch on RX100 when charging, i don't see the battery icon on the LCD screen and the yellow light on the "ON" dial disappears. I guess the camera is running directly from the power of the powerbank.

Surprisingly, the 500mA power from a PC USB2.0 port is just enough for charging but not enough to 'power up' the camera. I don't have any 500mA output powerbank to test. Some RX100M2 users posted in the forum that the AC adapter has been changed to "500mA" type. I'm curious whether the slow charging is able to slightly boost up CIPA 330 shots rating of RX100 to 350 shots rating of RX100M2, or because the back-illuminated sensor is slightly more energy efficient. Another guess is that RX100M2's charging time using the 500mA type adapter will be much longer.

Now, some photo time (resize to 50%)......jpg, 28mm, ISO6400, 1/10s, 1.8, handheld (brace my elbows against the sides & with the help of tighten neckstrap for extra stability)



Please don't judge my composition etc etc, Just want to practice my handheld skill (with neckstrap) because I was used to holding a dslr. RX100 sometimes gives me slightly blurry image at 1/30 if I am not careful/ steady. I find that Panasonic LX series has much greater optical stabilization.

Glad to find that RX100 can focus pretty easily at low light and it is possible to get non-blurry handheld shot if careful. the 6400 iso shot is almost free from chroma noise, the luminance noise grain is small and fine, even better than my Canon 550D's 6400 shot (chroma noise quite intrusive), if I remember correctly. In low light, I think RX100 wide open can beat my 550D with kit lens, and quite on par with it when zoom in.

Using high iso when the light is not too low, the picture will show less noise.
The 12800 iso picture is taken at shutter speed 1/80, aperture f/8, 10.4mm focal length (28mm if 35mm equivalent)

If I don't mind about shallower depth of field, I could have chosen
1/80s, f/4, iso 3200, or
1/80s, f/2.8, iso 1600 or
1/40s, f/2.8, iso 800 (1/40s should be okay to handhold for 28mm focal length)
1/40s, f/2.0, iso 400

Basically that static scene can be taken at iso 400, not really that dark. If the light is genuinely low, then we can see the true power of high ISO. That's my understanding, I stand corrected.

This post has been edited by cactuscch: Aug 26 2013, 12:29 AM

i also kena poison and bought RX100 already, my T2i will be sleeping in the drybox.

RX100 ergonomics & handling definitely lose to T2i (or any dslr) because there is no dedicated button for iso, aperture, shutter speed (but can map these buttons to front dial, rear dial or Fn button). No viewfinder, hot shoe. Not having a hotshoe is not a problem for me because I seldom use the hotshoe on my T2i. You can buy RX100M2 with hotshoe, the hotshoe can attach external viewfinder.

Flash is not quite powerful, but enough for subject not so far, also enough as fill flash. The flash can be tilted to point the ceiling like a bounce flash.

RX100 strength to me as a T2i owner is that it is super small & light. It is only half the weight/ half the size of T2i without any lens attached. It's image quality is on par with T2i with kit lens if you don't pixel peep all the time. I feel that RX100 dynamic range is better than T2i. If you shoot video, RX100 video quality is miles better than T2i - can autofocus, very minimal noise when auto-focusing, sharper, better dynamic range. When it comes to night time (low light), that's when RX100 shines, especially if you shoot wide open at f/1.8.

Of course RX100 has many weaknesses also compared to T2i. Image stabilization is very bad because I can't hold it on my eye level to keep it stable. There is no minimum shutter speed setting, the automatic 1/30s can sometimes cause slightly blurry image. No auto-ISO in Manual mode.

got PASM mode, just like T2i (Canon call it P, Av, Tv, M mode). Got manual shutter speed setting also. The only difference is that auto-ISO is disable in M mode (auto-ISO can be enabled in T2i). But RX100 tends to choose 1/30s when shooting wide, in PAS mode.

The is no other rival in terms of sensor size, pocketability & zoom, except RX100M2 of course.
I read in some Taiwan forum that Ricoh GR is small size with big APS-C but NO zoom.
Nikon A is also small size with APS-C sensor but no zoom.

Nikon 1 series has same size sensor with RX100 but high iso doesn't perform as good and resolution is 12MP? 10MP?. You can change lens, prime lens will keep its size small but once you add zoom lens, Nikon 1 becomes much bigger than RX100.

By the way, what's the price difference between the two?

Yes, confirm can use Xiaomi powerbank (both 10k, 5k) to charge RX100 with standard USB cable. Can charge my dad TZ25 also, but has to use the original Panasonic cable (connection different from normal USB).

This post has been edited by cactuscch: Aug 4 2014, 08:37 PM

Some latest news for those looking for high quality compact. We will have more choices now. I am a RX100 user for about 2 years, leaving my dslr to collect dust. It is so small and convenient, operation and focusing is quick, image quality is quite close to my old DSLR with kits lens.

There are a lot of features I like but they are some that I seriously hope Sony can fix it. If I haven't bought RX100, I'll consider the new Canon G7X (successor of Canon S series compact like S90 till S120) at USD699 (~RM2300 direct conversion). Sony SRP for RX100M3, M2 and M1 are RM2999 (USD899), RM2499 (USD759) and RM 1899 (USD575) respectively.

- RX100 optical stabilization for still image is very poor wide open. G7X is expected to have better IS. S90 users claims to get sharp image at 1/4s handheld. RX100 is very difficult to get tack sharp image at 1/15s without leaning myself on table/wall. Review said IS has improve on RX100M3 but I don't have one to test out.

-RX100 has no convenient control over minimum shutter speed (1/30s) and no Auto-ISO in M mode. G7X has "focal-length-based Auto ISO change thresholds". RX100m3 has auto-ISO in M mode as well.

-RX100 aperture is 4.9mm at telephoto end. G7X has the benefit of both RX100 & RX100M3, starting from a wider 24mm (1.8) to longer 100mm (2.8). Plus, The aperture doesn't close down as quick as RX100M3. RX100M3 hits 2.8 already at 30mm.

-G7X has touch screen. I think it'll be conveniece sometimes when external click/ dial are limited.

-G7X screen can tilt up 180 to do selfie. It's less flexible than RX100M3 but better than a fixed screen.

-G7X uses 20MP Sony sensor from RX100m3 (unconfirmed yet) but DIGIC JPEG engine should please "Canon color" lovers, compared to the "cool" feel of RX100.

-G7X front wheel dial has 'click' feel as compared to RX100 smooth feel. The click should be easier to control settings more accurately though will introduce sound when recording video.

-G7X & RM100M3 can release flash with a button. RX100 needs to dig in menu to do that.

-G7X has weaknesses also like poorer video specs, no EVF, no hotshoe, CIPA battery rating 220 only, no panorama mode? If the operating speed, focusing speed and lens quality are at least on par with RX100/ RX100M2. I might seriously consider G7X for 24-100mm 1.8-2.8 lens, touch screen, tilt-up screen, better IS (hopefully), more flexible minimum shutter/ auto ISO control (hopefully) if I haven't bought my RX100.

Another LARGE compact (larger than LX7, smaller than G1X II) that might attract us is Panasonic LX100 with killer specs (16MP m43 'cropped/ multi aspect ratio' sensor, 24-75mm 1.7-2.8 lens, 4K recording etc). If you prefer mobile phone photography over camera, you now have Panasonic CM1 with 1" sensor and 28mm 2.8 Leica lens.

I'm a bit excited with the announcement of new camera even thought I will not buy any camera again in the near future.

Last Friday after leaving DigitalMall, I walked into "Miami photo" few blocks away from digitalmall, next to KFC. Ask about he selling price of RX. If i remembered it right .....
RX100 = RM1299 (free 8G SD, sony pouch) - no stock
RX100 = RM1399 (free 8G SD, sony pouch, extra battery) - no stock
RX100m2 = RM1900
RX100m3 = RM2600

RX100M1/ RM100M3 (oops typo, shld be RX100M2) doesn't now have auto-ISO in M Mode. RX100M3 has.
I agree that it is quite tedious to change shutter speed, aperture and ISO without dedicated button. This is what I do:

Back wheel dial (corretc term is 'Control Wheel') - It'll either control shutter speed or aperture when you rotate it (not click). Just click the "DOWN" (the icon is Exposure Compensation) to toggle between shutter speed and aperture. It's actually quite fast.

Front Wheel dial (correct term is 'Control Ring')- ISO. The front ring is difficult to control, id doesn't have click feel and many times I rotate too fast or to slow, need to rotate 3-4 times to get the ISO i want.

Stupid Sony not willing to fix this (i mean autoISO in M mode) via firmware, force consumers to buy new model.

Edit by correcting some terms and confusion after reading the manual here http://docs.esupport.sony.com/dvimag/DSCRX...1/02/01/01.html

This post has been edited by cactuscch: Dec 21 2014, 08:48 AM