hi guys,

would really appreciate your small time and effort if you dont mind to share with us by listing your BEST PLAYER IN MALAYSIAN SUPER LEAGUE , as just to prove that our current players ( a combination of premier league, harimau muda, other unknown player due to rajagopal experiment) in the national team is not good enough to represent our beloved country to boost out FIFA ranking or achieve success in any international tournaments

your cooperation on this thread is highly appreciated. thanks

only players who played in malaysia's Super League is allowed

(eg: who is our best malaysian super league player that shud replace our current left back position? - azmi muslim plays for ATM, a premier league player)

This post has been edited by mdnosz: Jun 10 2012, 01:06 PM

Not to the extent of not being good enough.

I believe this guy is currently better than the regular players in Harimau Malaya squad in his position ( i.e. Amar Rohidan and K Gurusamy ).

Full name Mohd Shakir Shaari
Date of birth September 29, 1986 (age 25)
Place of birth Kota Bharu, Kelantan, Malaysia
Height 1.72 m (5 ft 8 in)
Playing position Defensive Midfielder


Still 25 years old, the same age as Mat Yo...

Not having enough playing time for our national team.

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 7 2012, 12:49 PM

Addition :

1. Baddrol Bakhtiar
2. Ashaari Shamsuddin

Should have been given more playing time with Harimau Malaya...both of them have proven something in the international scene b4 this ( Saha in 2010 AFF Suzuki Cup and Baddrol in 2011 sea games ).

Full name Mohd Asha'ri Samsuddin
Date of birth June 7, 1985 (age 26)
Place of birth Bukit Payong, Terengganu, Malaysia
Height 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in)
Playing position Midfielder


Baddrol Bakhtiar
Date of birth February 1, 1988 (age 24)
Place of birth Sabah, Malaysia
Height 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in)
Playing position Winger/Attacking Midfielder
Number 7

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 7 2012, 01:09 PM

To be good enough to represent your country, you must have enough experience at international level..Lack of experience INTERNATIONALLY is what being a stumble block for 25 years old Terengganu midfielder, ISMAIL FARUQI to prove his worth.

Despite of his 166cm height, his composure, good ball control, creativity and speed has been a good display in MSL.

What do you think about this selection?

.........................apek.........................

mahali........subra..........fahdli..........asrar

wan zack/.......baddrol b........shakir......kuna....
ashaari

................matyo......safee..................

may I ask the structure programme for malaysia football??

Under 12-Under 14-Under 16-Under 18- Under 21-Under 23-National Team...??

the reason I ask about this..if the players already played for the jr malaysia's team..then..he surely have a strong international experience..

This post has been edited by Ichighost: Jun 7 2012, 01:11 PM

A food for thought. This is a copy paste of Rimau XI's entry regarding this subject matter....


Ong Kim Swee, 100%

Published on: Nov 7, 2011 @ 0:08



Ong Kim Swee is a simple, objective-thinking man.


The gaffer.
At least that is what I, a mere lowly supporter of Malaysian football, and an outsider to FAM, thinks. The non-technical administrators in the FAM might know more than me, but they are also more busy doing trivial things like snacking on kuih while setting exorbitant ticket prices, fabricating excuses in front of the enquiring media AFTER setting that exorbitant ticket price, kowtow-ing and carrying luggage of the royalties, eyeing what is the other Dato’ in the FAM committee is doing, and putting that fellow FAM committee member down in the public media. Unlike me.

I, as a simple fan, can afford to put 100% focus on the game itself.

And I’m always 100% behind Ong Kim Swee. Nothing to do with Seksualiti Merdeka there, only that I have the utmost respect of Ong Kim Swee’s philosophy on football. You see, when our Olympic team lost 2-0 at Japan in September, I had initially expected them to lose with a bigger margin. But true to his philosophy, Kim Swee ‘parked a big jumbo jet’ in front of goal and restricted the Asian giants to only two goals at their own backyard. Kim Swee knew and acknowledged our own weaknesses, and proceeded to engineer a game plan based on damage limitation. That’s objective thinking.

While national team coach Datuk K. Rajagobal had imposed a virtual limit of the number of players above the age of 25 in his squad, Ong Kim Swee had no qualms whatsoever in starting Hairuddin Omar (32), Amri Yahyah (30), Norhafiz Zamani (30) and Badhri Radzi (29) against the multinational stars of Chelsea. While K. Rajagobal’s first choice national side were trashed 0-4 by Arsenal and 3-6 by Liverpool, less than a week later Kim Swee’s ragtag group of under 23 players and international has-beens managed to restrict the 2010-11 EPL runner’s up to a 0-1 loss, losing only to a goal which shouldn’t have been allowed: FIFA Law 10: A goal is scored when the WHOLE of the ball passes over the goal line.



Calling Hairuddin Omar a has-been should require a bit of imagination right now. The man had just scored in three consecutive Malaysian Cup final, winning all three with two different teams. He even scored against Chelsea. He’s quite the Malaysian Alan Shearer. He’s maybe 32-years young now, but his compass is still pointing goal-bound. Putting him in the Malaysian starting eleven is maybe asking too much, but I would rather see him in the Malaysian bench, than a certain fit, energetic, quick, strong young striker who has a faulty compass. See, that’s objective thinking. You want a water carrier, or you want a goal scorer?


Hai-O: An old goal scorer is better than a young water carrier. Kim Swee had no problem putting him in the starting line-up against Chelsea.
Pippo Inzaghi isn’t quick, yet he can score. He is the second all time most prolific goal scorer in European club competitions, only 3 goals behind Raul. Solskjaer isn’t strong, but he could score, just like what Chicarito is doing now. It’s all in the head you know, the compass. The sense of the direction of goal. With speed, you can cover more distance faster as you race towards Perlis, but when you have a faulty compass you’ll end up in Johor instead.

I may like Ong Kim Swee, but I admit that he has a problem now. See, another objective thinking. He has already lost two goal scorers in Wan Zack Haikal and Irfan Fazail, both of FC Vion Zlate Moravce, due to injuries.


Wan Zack Haikal: Football is a team game, but his loss COULD be the telling difference.
His four forwards have only scored a combined total of 8 goals in 26 Malaysia under-23 matches since the start of the year. A tournament cannot be won without scoring, so the goals must start to come from somewhere. Izzaq must score, Syahrul Azwari must score, Thamil must score, Fakri? Just… START to score will you, that’s all I’m asking. For God’s sake, you are a forward, not a goalkeeper.


Fakri Saarani: Simply must START scoring goals.
Kim Swee’s striking problems cannot be resolved easily since the SEA Games football tournament is an age group tournament. But the World Cup is not. Yet Datuk K. Rajagobal as the World Cup squad coach still fielded a misfiring under-23 striker in the starting line-up against Singapore. Our dear Datuk could have had an experienced, goal scoring striker on the bench, but nooo… it must only be YET another misfiring under-23 striker, and he too was thrown into play in the 82nd minute.

We lost. And that’s exactly what would happen if we had lost Norshahrul Idlan Talaha to injury in the 2010 AFF Suzuki Cup. I don’t want to begin to imagine what would happen if we had lost Safee Sali.

Tell me if fielding an under-23 forward who have not scored in a World Cup qualification match is objective thinking?

This is an all-important World Cup qualification match but nooo… he must give Ismail Faruqi his first ever cap in this very match. The October friendly at Australia was a valuable international ‘A’ match yet nooo… he must also give Joseph Kallang Tie his first ever cap. Plain reckless.


Joseph Kalang Tie: First international cap, first 5-0 international drubbing.
Okay, I’m not a Datuk fan. But let me tell this, I take my hat off to our dear Datuk for doing what no other Malaysian coach has done before: winning a SEA Games gold AND the AFF Suzuki Cup. That’s objective thinking; I don’t let my emotions and my personal preference to cloud my thinking.

That’s Kim Swee. Win or lose, you have a fan boy here, coach. 100% behind you.

From http://rimauxi.wordpress.com/ong-kim-swee-100/

aku rasa, persoalan macam ni terjadi sebenarnya sebab sekarang ini kat malaysia ada lebihan talent di setiap posisi... seperti contoh :
GK kita ada farizal, apek, sharbinie (??)
Mid kita ada Ashari,Ismail faruqi,JKT,Piya,Shakir,Safiq Rahim(of course),Baddrol,Guna,Kunanlan,Amar Rohidan, Budak2 Harimau Muda ada gak dlm 4-5 org... adalagi kot kalau nak list down....
Striker.. yg ni kureng skit kot.. mat yo, safee, shakir n9, izzac, shazwan

bagus sebenarnya senario ni.. tapi bila ada yg lebih bijak dari coach, tu yg terbit persoalan ni... apapun, coach akan kata, "SAYA TAHU PEMAIN SAYA"

aku stuju dgn ni

& sedar tak sedar, Raja dgn statement "saya tahu pemain saya" sudah pon mengenal pasti profil 60 pemain sepanjang tahun ni utk persiapan AFF which is fine and good for me (when was the last time we managed to call, up to 60 players roughly per year?.not per year this is only june)

Btw:

me: Baddrol (flair), Ismail Faruqi & JKT (good touches & can add more flair oso), Ashaari (silent killer, alil bit slow doint defensive job tho) << RG jarang guna..

strikers dept very limited, zaquan dah bye bye dah

This post has been edited by syazwan: Jun 7 2012, 02:29 PM

imagine yer...

1st eleven kita mainkan mid - Safiq,Guna,Kunalan & Sharuain

pastu kat bench kita ada Ashari,JKT,Ismail Faruqi, Piya,Baddrol...

FUUUUU pening wooo jadik coach...anyway currently our NT ni dah seakan2 ManCity punya squad... dalm erti kata bench player pun boleh pakai la...

.........................Apek.........................

Mahali........Aidil..........Fahdli..........Asrar....

Matyo.......Badrol........Shakir......Kunalan....

..........................Safiq..............................

............................safee............................

Malaysia xla terrer sangat nak score open play, perlu Safiq utk score from free kick, Aidil je center back malaysia yg berani attack ball waktu corner, perlu dia utk set piece jugak

Siapa ada statistik pasal rate of free kick conversion per match ( international matches only ) from Safiq Rahim? Sebab from my knowledge, kalau perlawanan genting ( eg vs Singapore WC Quali. 2014 ) bukanlah selalunya Safiq akan score from FK. Correct me if im wrong...

I agree that his FK taking prowess is very good tho...one of our own Beckham/Roberto Carlos...

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 7 2012, 03:54 PM

GK sekarang ni Apek ( 1st choice ) dan farizal jer for me. Sharbinee....too inconsistent.

Bolos 5 dalam 1st match aff suzuki 2010.
Bolos 5 dalam 1st match wc 2014 quali. vs singapore.
Bolos gol sengal dalam final malaysia cup...
Ada sesiapa yg nak tambah pasal sharbinee sila tambah...

safiq if play no 10 position mmg x bleh la...sure he's an AM but not the no 10 role....

Badd 6 feet tall?kinda doubtful though(i think i saw him standing next to wilshere....wilshere is taller methink)

i think the reason why Datuk K Rajagobal quite reluctant to change his team,is because the chemisty between the player is already there.to put someone else inside the team would make him to reshuffle and replan from beginning.and senior squad doesn't have the luxury of playing together as the U-21

that is the purpose of friendly international game,
to test his ability and how fast he can adapt to the whole team, and also how he can read his opponent game play.

everybody deserve the chance to play in friendly game, must test as many players as possible, do not throw any good possibility and rage or satisfied too early, because then only in the real tournament, the best of the best will survive and really present harimau malaya team.

This post has been edited by hack3line: Jun 7 2012, 06:20 PM

Antara latest selection Rajagopal yg dilihat paling tepat = pemilihan Alex?

Safiq Rahim sangat handal dalam FK taking, tapi kelihatannya tenggelam dlm open play / tidak dapat menjadi midfield general yg outstanding?

Apa lagi yg korang boleh tambah?

eh alamak ...thread asal utk player super league je .. harimau muda, pelita jaya, liga perdana tk spatutnye ade dlm list ni ..

best GK:
- apek

best CDF:
- ??

best RDF:
- daudsu (keras, rajin turun naik)

best LDF:
- asrar (good technique on and off-the-ball movement)

best CM:
- safiq (dead ball specialist)
- baadrol (high work rate, brani try long shots, good off-the-ball movement)

best RM:
- ??

best LM:
- kunalan (rajin turun naik)
- ashaari (good technique, play smart)

best FW:
- matyo (good technique)

anything to add on the missing area?

it should be 'THE BEST' .. which means, someone you think can perfor at the highest level..

This post has been edited by mdnosz: Jun 9 2012, 12:23 AM

best CB (centreback) rasa mcm xda kot? ada yang argue letak Marzuki tapi aku tak setuju sbb dia ni oldskool pny dapat terus booom bola. Dah byk games gak (live matches) yang aku tgk dia main mcmni.

Subra? err last2 minit vs singapore nak marah apek sbb..........

err


rasa kesilapan dia kot


hihihi

RB patutnya jadi milik Daudsu. Rajin, workrate memang terbaik, aggresif tapi sayang coach tak nampak. Boleh plak letak bunyamin sebagai). Dan ramai terlupa ttg PIYA. Kenapa? Sebab usia dia? Atau sebab satu game dengan Chelsea ari tu, telah menyebabkan dia tak layak untuk main msia? Kat Malaysia ni, dialah pemain paling cantik passing through ball, vision dia, creativity memang terbaik!. Sebab tu kalau dia tak hidup, kelantan pun tak hidup. Sorry to say la, SR kalau tak perform sekalipun, bila dia scored akan dijulang. Xavi umur mcm dia pun selamba jadi arkitek dalam pasukan. Ong Kim Swee boleh nampak tp napa current coach tak boleh? Kerana vision Ong dan Raja sangat berbeza. Sebab tu Ong berani pertaruhkan Nazmi sbb dia perlukan pemain yang ada vision, kreativity sebegini. Selain tu, Left winger patut milik Ashaari Samsudin. Boleh dribble, boleh score, boleh long shot. Kunanlan bagus kerana workrate dia tapi dari segi decision making, long shot, out. Baddrol boleh jadi Right Winger sbb dia boleh guna kaki kiri dan kanan. Sama mcm ashaari, long shot, ada vision, freekick pn pakar.

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Added on June 9, 2012, 6:01 amRB patutnya jadi milik Daudsu. Rajin, workrate memang terbaik, aggresif tapi sayang coach tak nampak. Boleh plak letak bunyamin sebagai). Dan ramai terlupa ttg PIYA. Kenapa? Sebab usia dia? Atau sebab satu game dengan Chelsea ari tu, telah menyebabkan dia tak layak untuk main msia? Kat Malaysia ni, dialah pemain paling cantik passing through ball, vision dia, creativity memang terbaik!. Sebab tu kalau dia tak hidup, kelantan pun tak hidup. Sorry to say la, SR kalau tak perform sekalipun, bila dia scored akan dijulang. Xavi umur mcm dia pun selamba jadi arkitek dalam pasukan. Ong Kim Swee boleh nampak tp napa current coach tak boleh? Kerana vision Ong dan Raja sangat berbeza. Sebab tu Ong berani pertaruhkan Nazmi sbb dia perlukan pemain yang ada vision, kreativity sebegini. Selain tu, Left winger patut milik Ashaari Samsudin. Boleh dribble, boleh score, boleh long shot. Kunanlan bagus kerana workrate dia tapi dari segi decision making, long shot, out. Baddrol boleh jadi Right Winger sbb dia boleh guna kaki kiri dan kanan. Sama mcm ashaari, long shot, ada vision, freekick pn pakar.

This post has been edited by gry: Jun 9 2012, 06:01 AM

since aku just tgk sarawak dalam liga M. 2 players sarawak aku rasa layak untuk jarung jersi kebangsaan. Dzulazlan (RB) and Ashri (RM, LM). dua2 pacey and have decent technique.