Saya open thread ini bukannya bertujuan untuk menyokong pasukan bola sepak kebangsaan Jepun, tetapi sementelah ramai kawan2 yg menjadikan Samurai Blue sebagai benchmark dalam mencapai kejayaan dalam bola sepak Asia / Antarabangsa ( youth development wise etc ), jadi saya mengambil keputusan utk membuka thread ini supaya kita dapat bersama2 belajar dari mereka dan juga berkongsi idea jika ada aspek2 football development mereka yg sesuai untuk diterapkan dalam pasukan bola sepak negara / negeri / kelab di Malaysia.

Tambahan lagi, TSAM juga selalu menjadikan JFA dan liga Jepun sebagai benchmark dalam merangka blue-print beliau.

In short : Dasar pandang ke timur seperti yg pernah dianjurkan oleh Tun Mahathir.


Sebagai permulaan, cuba lihat macam mana mereka bermain bola sepak.





p / s : Presiden JFA tidak pernah memegang jawatan selama berpuluh2 tahun seperti yg berlaku di beberapa negara lain. Pressure utk perform ke atas national team coach juga sangat besar...

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 17 2012, 02:33 PM

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Analisis latest match vs Oman :


Japan kicked off the final phase of World Cup qualification on Sunday evening, at home, against a team that has given them headaches in the past, but which nevertheless is probably going to vie with Jordan for the bottom spot in this qualification group. Though coach Zaccheroni had a nearly full-strength roster to choose from, there was no question that the pressure was on. Any result other than a solid and comfortable win at Saitama Stadium would surely be treated as a disaster. So of course, everyone knows that Zaccheroni would take no chances whatsoever - he would name his best eleven players, using those who have produced results steadily and reliably for both National Team and club over the past year. Right?

Well,if you are one of those who shook your head in disbelief when you saw the names of Yasuyuki Konno, Yasuhito Endo and Ryoichi Maeda in the starting lineup, you are in good company. The use of Maeda rather than the more dangerous and more reliable Mike Havenaar, up front, can be justified on the basis of the fact that Maeda has been practicing with the other NT players for almost three weeks, whereas Havenaar just arrived back from Holland last week. But it is difficult to think of a good explanation for why Zack would fill two key defensive positions with two players who ply their trade in Japan, for a team that currently sits in 17th place, and which has been conceding goals at a rate of over two a game. Neither Endo nor Konno has looked particularly effective this season. On the contrary, their form has been as much a factor in Gamba's poor results this year as any other explanation. Perhaps he was not overly concerned about Oman's offensive capabilities, and was looking for the experience and team harmony that the two veterans bring, but even that does not fully explain the choices

It isnt as if Zack lacks options at the two positions. Masahiko Inoha and Yuzo Kurihara looked extremely comfortable in central defence against Azerbaijan, while both Hajime Hosogai and Hideto Takahashi are a match for Endo in every categtory except experience, and possibly set play capabilities. Given Endo's relative lack of sharpness on set plays this season, it is hard to think of any reason why he would be the first choice, unless Zack was deliberately trying to make things difficult for his own team. On his very first touch of the ball, Endo fulfilled our expectations with flying colours - he passed the ball right to an Oman player and created the first really dangerous chance for the visitors.

To be fair to Endo, though, he still does have excellent distribution skills and a good touch on his passes. Nevertheless, his style of stand-up passing is a relic of an old and far less dynamic era, when Japan employed this type of pass to conserve energy, wear down the opponent and eventually prevail after long patient buildup. The contrast with the busy, elusive, and incisive movement of players like Okazaki, Honda, Kagawa and Nagatomo is obvious at just a single glance. Kondo is a similar player, whose lack of movement is somewhat less critical due to his position, in central defence. But it was he and Endo whose lack of motion and the related tendency to get caught in possession which created Oman's biggest chance of the first half, around the 30 minute mark. Only a lunging challenge by Uchida (which resulted in a yellow card) prevented Oman from breaking away on a three-on-two opportunity.

Despite these shortcomings, Japan came out and created a lot of offensive pressure from the outset. The two wingbacks were actively involved in the early sequences, and it was an overlap on the left by Nagatomo after some nice buildup work by Kagawa and Okazaki that produced the first goal. Nagatomo dashed into the corner a full step ahead of his defender and fired a long cross to Honda, drifting in at the top of the box while Okazaki charged the goal mouth and drew the defenders. Honda had acres of space to set up, and the cross was delicate enough to make an easy target even on the full volley. Honda wheeled on the ball to employ his favoured left foot, and drilled it into the low right corner, giving Omani keeper Al-Habsi no chance whatsoever.

Moments later Shinji Kagawa had the ball in the back of the Oman net again, but he was slightly offside on his dash behind the Omani defence, and the tally was disallowed, much to the chagrin of the 63,000 fans at Saitama Stadium. Though the Samurai Blue had things very much their way for the first half hour, as noted earlier Japan started to lose their focus for a while in the latter stages of the first period, and this allowed Oman to collect their focus and begin to edge back into the contest.

In the final five minutes of the half, Shinji Kagawa seemed to take it upon himself to inject some energy into the Samurai Blue attack. Two dangerous runs into the box created some of the best chances of the first half, but fine saves by Al-Habsi denied first Nagatomo and then Okazaki. Alert readers may notice that two names have been conspicuously absent from our description of first-half action. Eiji Kawashima really had little to do, apart from one long-distance shot by an Omani wing - the only shot on net that Oman would get in the first 45 minutes.

The other name is that of lone striker Ryoichi Maeda. While Maeda occupied one, and occasionally two defenders by lurking in front of goal, he rarely managed to create any real danger, nor was he an effective target for long balls - that was a role that Okazaki played fairly well, but Maeda's inability to stretch the Omani defence was a concern, and one that we strongly expected Zaccheroni to address early in the second half. But despite his tendency to disappear for long stretches, Maeda does have one quality that has kept him in the NT picture consistently. The Jubilo ace is a cherry-poicker extraordinaire, and he demonstrated this skill in the 50 minute, when Kagawa picked him out at the back of the defensive pack and chipped a perfect lob that sent him in one-on-one against the keeper. Maeda plucked and pitted the cherry and stuffed it into the goal mouth from point-blank range. Suddenly Japan was in full control. Moments later Okazaki slipped behind the Omani defence on a very similar play and though Al-Habsi blocked his first attempt, he slammed home the rebound and the margin was extended to 3-0

At this point Zack made a change that we have been anticipating for almost a year, taking off Uchida who was on a yellow card, and replacing him with U23 star Hiroki Sakai. Though Uchida is a reliable and extremely "intelligent" player, throughout his career for both club and country he has displayed a hesitancy and lack of "killer instinct" that can be quite frustrating for viewers. Every time he receives the ball on the wing and then pulls up despite having a bit of space in front of him, one is tempted to start shouting "take your man on!" It isnt that Uchida lacks the skill to round the corner or cut inside, but he seems to lack the self confidence and initiative that distinguishes a good player from a great one.

Sakai is a very different player indeed. While it is too soon to start predicting his emergence as Japan's newest superstar, this is one kid who will never be criticised for a lack of initiative and killer instinct. Sakai's first touch of the ball demonstrated the reasons why he will be moving to Germany this summer. As soon as he saw a tiny glimmer of space on the sideline, he took off on the dribble and bulled past his defender, and into the corner. The Kashiwa Reysol wingback also has a dimension of size and physical power that no Japanese wingback in the past has ever included in his skill set. He is a potent threat on set plays, using his strength and skill in the air to score an impressive average of one goal in every 3.3 appearances during his Reysol career. At the moment his impetuous energy can sometimes be a negative, leaving space for opposing teams to use on the counterattack. However there is no question that a year or two in the Bundesliga will cure any weaknesses in defense and positioning. Uchida will probably remain the top choice for a while longer, but Sakai is virtually certain to claim the right wingback spot as his own by the time the World Cup rolls around.

Midway through the second half, Zacheroni replaced Okazaki with another Bundesliga-bound U23 star, Hiroshi Kiyotake. By this point Japan was playing possession football, killing the clock and trying to preserve their clean sheet, so the number of really dangerous scoring opportunities dropped off. Nevertheless, the two U23 stars looked comfortable, effective, and well integrated with the rest of the squad. The third sub, Hajime Hosogai, came on for Endo in the 85 minute and contributed to a late flurry of shots that demanded a heroic effort from Al-Habsi to prevent further damage. Both Honda and Kiyotake drilled powerful shots from close range at the Omani keeper, but he denied both with an acrobatic double-save which would be the final significant event of the contest. Japan opened their campaign with a convincing victory, and can prepare for their trip to Jordan with confidence and enthusiasm.

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creeping up from down under

By Sean Carroll

The development of the J.League has been far smoother than that of the Australian A-League, and the most high-profile clash between Japan and Australia saw the Samurai Blue come out on top in last year’s Asian Cup final. The Japanese game may have the upper hand at the moment, but Australian football is steadily closing the gap…



Next week sees the latest instalment in what is steadily becoming a very interesting rivalry in the Asian game, when Japan travel to Brisbane to take on Australia in the final round of World Cup qualifiers.

Leaving aside the fact that Australia is not actually in Asia – and that in ‘The Socceroos’ it has the most ridiculous nickname in world football – the steadily increasing competition between the two countries is without doubt having a positive impact on the game on both sides of the Pacific.

It is fairly obvious that one of the key reasons for the FFA (Football Federation Australia)’s decision to join the AFC was to increase its chances of making it to World Cup finals (Oceania has just half a spot and must contest a play-off against a side from another federation, while Asian qualification offers four-and-a-half berths), and they and Japan are clear favourites to make it to Brazil from Group B.

Further to that there was also undoubtedly a desire to face a higher standard of opponent though, and both at a national team and club level this is seemingly helping the Australian game to improve.

In the same way that Japanese players are becoming more accustomed to the physical side of the game thanks to their increasingly frequent meetings with their bigger, stronger opponents from down under, the Aussie’s are also picking up pointers from their more technically adept rivals.



After last month’s ACL game between FC Tokyo and Brisbane Roar, for instance, the Roar players were full of praise for their opposite numbers.

“In the A-League the style they play is different,” Bahraini defender Mohamed Adnan said.

“Here they try to keep the ball. [In Australia] they try to play long balls or challenge, they use fitness. But here they are more technical than in the A-League.”

His teammate Besart Berisha was also impressed with FC Tokyo, insisting that he and his teammates were aiming for a similar style of play.

“They really work together,” the Albanian said. “The way they do this is perfect, the way they understand each other. The way they move is blind – I say always like this, blind; they know where the other players are, and this is beautiful.”

A third Roar player, Ivan Franjic, added to the praise for the J.League side, but insisted that the Australians were steadily closing the gap.

“They’re very talented and gifted technically, but the A-League’s still a great standard and is going up every year.”

Far from being a one-off in the case of Brisbane – perceived by many to be the most attractive Australian side – he also paid reference to the fact that fellow A-League sides are increasingly enjoying success against J.League opponents in the ACL.



“I definitely think we’re not that far off,” the 24-year-old added. “You can see with the other teams, Central Coast and Adelaide, you can see that the standard is catching up very quick.”

One Aussie who knows all too well about how the game back home is improving is Josh Kennedy, whose Nagoya Grampus side were knocked out of the ACL in the Round of 16 by Adelaide United.

The top scorer in the J.League for the past two seasons is, of course, particularly looking forward to the game with the Samurai Blue.

“I wish Tulio was still in the team, that’d be good,” he joked shortly after the draw had been made, before setting aside digs at his club teammate to address the rivalry between the countries more seriously.

“Obviously if you go by rankings it’s us and Japan to get through but there’s always surprises, always other teams that’ll step up and give it a good shot.”

With that in mind it is tempting to suggest that they may both take it easy and settle for a draw in Brisbane on Tuesday.

If Kennedy has his way that won’t be the case though, and he insists that the growing competition between the two countries means the home side are keen to get one over on the Samurai Blue.

“There’s an Australian-Japan rivalry that we all have now, especially with them winning the Asian Cup, so we’ll definitely be wanting to win that first game against them and I’m looking forward to it.”

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Added on June 7, 2012, 12:16 am Ini tanggungjawab sosial korporat dan juga KESEDARAN MASYARAKAT ( COMMUNITY AWARENESS ). Both are still sadly lacking in our country...

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 7 2012, 12:16 AM

Attitude dari segi budaya bola sepak ke apa?

Ada dua tiga kerat pasukan bola di Malaysia yg mempunyai penyokong yg passionate dan pengurusan yg agak bagus. Lagi banyak pasukan seperti ini lagi baik...

Artikel Feb 2012


Zaccheroni's building project ready for next battle
Sean Carroll / Special to The Daily Yomiuri

TOYOTA, Aichi--Building a team for the future is one of the toughest tasks a coach can be asked to perform.

Looking far ahead can make it difficult to keep your eye on the ball, and long-term objectives can be scuppered by poor form in the meantime.

Although Alberto Zaccheroni's primary focus is the 2014 World Cup finals, he has done extremely well to ensure results haven't suffered in the process of forming a team to compete in Brazil.

The Italian hasn't been afraid to experiment when the situation allows but has kept the core of the team consistent, and as a result the Samurai Blue have lost just once under his stewardship--and that was in highly unusual circumstances away to North Korea.

Yasuhito Endo and captain Makoto Hasebe are firm favorites in the two deep-lying midfield roles, while Maya Yoshida and Yasuyuki Konno are established as his preference in the heart of the defense.

Eiji Kawashima is recognized as first-choice keeper, the fullback berths appear to have been assigned to Atsuto Uchida and Yuto Nagatomo, while Shinji Kagawa and Keisuke Honda, fitness permitting, are assured of attacking midfield berths.

With the foundations of the team in place, "Zac" is now working on the finishing touches.

If you include last April's "Team as One" match, tonight's World Cup qualifier against Uzbekistan in Toyota will be his 20th in charge of the side. Although both teams are assured of progressing to the final round of Asian qualifying, Japan's manager is not taking the game lightly.

"This is a very important game for us and of course I want to win," he said when announcing his squad. "Uzbekistan is our rival for first place in the group and I rate their football very highly."

Japan drew 1-1 with the Uzbeks in Tashkent last September and lie three points behind Vadim Abramov's side, but with a superior goal difference. Thus, a win by Japan will ensure the Samurai Blue finish atop the group.

That will be Zaccheroni's goal, and his method--paying attention to every detail--is frequently remarked upon by his players.

Ryo Miyaichi was the latest to pass comment after his first training session with the full national team on Monday evening.

"There is a good atmosphere and everybody is very focused," the 19-year-old said.

"I think the team's tactics are very intricate, but if I can adapt to them then I can improve my game."

Miyaichi is the most recent youngster to be considered by Zaccheroni, although a fairy-tale debut in his home prefecture is not a given.

The former AC Milan coach is not swayed by sentimentality, and has been cautious about how and when he assesses his prospects.

Not long ago, people were clamoring for Takashi Usami to be handed a full debut.

Zaccheroni, too, was keen for a closer look but preferred to run the rule over the then-Gamba Osaka forward in training, rather than out on the pitch in the intense glare of the Japanese media.

The same was true of Kashima Antlers midfielder Gaku Shibasaki and Kyoto Sanga striker Yuya Kubo, both of whom were in the squad for last Friday's 3-1 friendly win over Iceland but didn't make it off the bench.

Even in meaningless games like that, the 58-year-old manager likes to retain a certain level of continuity, and with the central positions in particular there has been very little messing around.

Miyaichi's quick adaptation to European football has clearly impressed Zaccheroni though, and while previous call-ups have been treated with caution he refused to rule out a debut for the Bolton Wanderers winger.

"Aside from the injured players I considered everybody, whether they play domestically or overseas. There was no preference, the players that I wanted to call up I called up," he said.

There is a chance, then, but as always it will only be taken on Zaccheroni's terms.

(Feb. 29, 2012)

in every aspect..
attitude kerja
attitude sokongan
attitude kritik mengkritik
attitude jangan baling botol

dan segalanya lah senang cte

Sorry...no offense...is this thread really necessary?

Interview with Hiroki Sakai ( Japan's U-22 Olympic star yg bermain ketika menentang Malaysia ).

COLUMN : Sean Carroll

Several players have starred in Kashiwa Reysol's incredible push for the 2011 J.League title. Perhaps the most impressive has been youth team graduate Hiroki Sakai, whose development has been aided by defeat, a spell in Brazil and the chance to play alongside his childhood heroes.

Nobody has ever won the J1 title immediately after gaining promotion from the second division. However, with just four games to go this year, Kashiwa Reysol are still very much involved in the title race. The Sun Kings currently sit top of the table, two points ahead of Gamba Osaka and three in front of last season's champions Nagoya Grampus.
One of their outstanding players this campaign has been Hiroki Sakai. The right-back has firmly established himself as first-choice since breaking into the team at the end of the 2010 season and has plenty of motivation to take the fight all the way to the finish.

"Winning in itself isn't something that I've experienced much," he said at the club's training ground ahead of Reysol's 3-1 victory over Sanfrecce Hiroshima in Round 30. "In the youth team we would sometimes get to the final but come second, that happened quite a lot, so Iwould be very happy to become a champion. I want to win."

These previous near-misses have left their mark on the 21-year-old, and he suggests that if he had been able to secure some silverware in his formative years then it would have added further strings to his already impressive bow.

"If we had won back then we would not only have been a strong team but also a team that could win. Psychologically winning would have given us confidence but unfortunately we weren't able to. It's a disappointing feeling. If I could have won then maybe I would be a better player."

He insists that it does not overly concern him as Reysol enter the final straight for this year's championship though, and takes a philosophical approach.

"I feel that today is here because of the past, so it's hard to say. To be playing in a top professional league amongst top teams more than makes up for the disappointment before. It still acts as a motivation in a way, but essentially the will to win is strong enough."

Such maturity is surprising to find in such a young and inexperienced player, and the last year has truly been a breakthrough one for the defender. As well as cementing his place on the right side of Reysol's defence Sakai has also become a key member of Takashi Sekizuka's Under-22 team aiming for the London Olympics, and been called up to the full Japan squad for the recent World Cup qualifier against Tajikistan.

"This is the first time for me to play continuously in the side," he said. "Last year I wasn't a regular so in that way I'm surprised; there is a feeling of freshness."

This youthful enthusiasm has blended well with the more senior professionals at Reysol, and he feels that keeping the squad from last season together has laid the foundations for their success.

"It's important as we know each other's play styles very well and complement each other. This year the veterans and young players have matched well."

For Sakai, playing alongside some of the more experienced players is particularly special as not so long ago he was sat in the stands at Hitachi Stadium cheering them on.

"In middle school I was in a club society and used to watch games," the Kashiwa native revealed. "On weekends the practice times would change so that we could watch matches together. Many of the players I watched then went on to become coaches."
Initially, then, training and playing alongside the likes of Hideaki Kitajima was a nerve-wracking experience, but Sakai quickly adjusted.

"When I became a pro I was so nervous, really. It was strange to suddenly be playing alongside people that I used to watch when I was a youth," he admitted.
"Now I'm used to it but having that experience I tell those coming from the youth team to professional to adapt quickly."

Indeed, as the ease with which he has settled into his role as one of Japanese football's most exciting young prospects demonstrates, adaptation is not something that Sakai finds too difficult. In 2009, as part of an arrangement between Reysol and the Brazilian club Mogi Mirim - whose board includes the legendary Rivaldo and former Kashiwa and Sanfrecce Hiroshima player Cesar Sampaio - the youngster spent 6 months training and playing in South America. As fans of Japanese football know well from the story of Kazuyoshi Miura, the Brazilian game and culture offers a very different alternative to that of the Land of the Rising Sun. In order to get the most out of the opportunity Sakai understood that, like "King Kazu" before him, he must throw himself into it as much as possible.

"I felt I had to get integrated into Brazilian culture, I had to forget and shed my Japanese culture and to mix into the culture of Brazil," he said of his time in Sao Paolo.
"In Brazil I learned not so much from the detailed training but the most from games. If you did well the coach would always use you, you were always playing matches. Because of that everyone was very serious about each and every match. We were friendly but it was competitive; training was intense."

Such willingness to assimilate spread to Sakai's activities away from the training pitch as well, and he quickly realised that he must take full advantage of the unique situation he was in.
"When I went to Brazil if I didn't try to integrate and just focussed on playing then in other situations away from training I would feel stress," he explained.
"By jumping straight in and trying to integrate that meant I didn't feel stress when I was playing as well. That way I could concentrate on playing at a consistent level."

Having worked so hard to take his chance it is unsurprising that Reysol's Brazilian head coach Nelsinho has placed his trust in Sakai. As well as helping to make a good impression on his boss, the tall and powerful full-back's relationship with and understanding of his Brazilian teammates Jorge Wagner and Leandro Domingues has also been eased by his time in Brazil.
"Since I was in Brazil I know a bit about Brazilian culture," he said. "Jorge is learning Japanese so he speaks a bit. With Leandro I speak simple Portuguese during the games. I feel like the Brazilians are trying their best to integrate into Japanese culture and society.
"At Reysol the foreign players are very friendly and I think this is part of the reason we are doing so well this year."
While he may have shed his Japanese culture in Brazil it certainly returned for the next question. When asked what he considers to be his strengths and weaknesses he initially only provided the latter.
"I still lack experience. I don't know what it is like to have a tough season," he began. "Maybe next year will be tough; will I be able to overcome a difficult season?
"During matches sometimes I lose focus. For the national team I am starting to get attention but I still need to put in good performances."

And the positives? he is prompted.
"Hmmm, the opposite. Now I have nothing to lose," he says, as his trademark smile breaks out. "My play-style is not so much about defending. Yes, I'm in a position that has to focus on defending but I want to defend and attack aggressively. I want to just go for it. I guess those are my strengths."

Ahead of him in the national team pecking order at the moment is the former Kashima Antlers player Atsuto Uchida, now of Schalke 04 in the German Bundesliga. Sakai believes that Uchida's greater experience is the biggest difference between the two players.
"Watching him I feel that he can play well against foreign players because of the fact that he plays abroad," he says, before adding. "He has also won many things."

Moving abroad is the logical next step for Sakai, too, although he is in no rush and still feels he has a lot to learn.
"As a football player I want to aim for the highest level. If there was a chance I would of course want to go but I am not yet at that level. Not at all, I feel."

His preference would be for a move to what many consider the peak of club football.
"The Premier League, of course, in England. The fans are so close," he says, clearly affected by his time in Reysol's intimidating stadium.
"I like Anfield, the [Liverpool] stadium. And I've been to [Manchester United's] Old Trafford, I walked on the pitch."
This experience swings the matter for him, and if offers came from both clubs there is only one choice.
"United. They're a strong team," he laughs.
Although he is a fan of foreign football there aren't any players he particularly bases his style on, preferring instead to learn from across the board.
"I see from moment to moment. There are so many good players in the world and I try to learn from all of their good moments."

Of course, he can't always be focussing on the game, so what does he do away from football?
"These days I don't really have a day off," he concedes, after some consideration. "On off days I try to just rest well. The evenings before off days I go out with my teammates."

It's been that kind of season. If things go according to plan over the next few matches then the next night out could be a very big one indeed, though. Almost certainly followed by a hard-earned day off - or maybe even two.


Sean Carroll



Sean Carroll
Sean Carroll is an English freelance football journalist
who writes for Weekly Soccer Magazine, The Daily Yomiuri and the-AFC.com

You can answer that yourself ----> based on your own definition of necessity. For example, if you don't think a particular thread is necessary, do you think it is NECESSARY for you to read and comment in it?

Dang

I thought it to be some attractive information which I do not find it that way in the end. It is that simple. No need to rocket science to answer my question

aku x paham langsung korang cakap ape.

heklain underling? isapweedmate?

Lu apahal mat?

maksudnye, ringkaskan extract2 penting je.
nak full story bagi link je bro

hehehe

betul la matcham abg heklaing. short fuse.

Kalau Thailand kata mereka 15 tahun ketinggalan dari Jepun, aku rasa Malaysia lebih dari tu..

It would be good kalau kita ada tactical coach dari Jepun,tp skill individu juga memainkan peranan..

Boleh imbas kembali perlwanan kelayakan Olimpik antara Malaysia dan Jepun di Youtube dan anda boleh saksikan perbezaan tahap permainan antara kedua pasukan..Its huge..

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Added on June 8, 2012, 6:01 pmKorang perasan x yg talent pool geng Jepun ni sangat banyak. Geng Keisuke Honda, Kagawa dan Nagatomo masih muda lagi tapi dah ada pengganti in Miyaichi, Sakai and Co.

On a positive side our talent pool from Harimau Muda players pun nampak makin bagus i.e. Nazmi, Hazwan Bakri and Co.

Geng Jepun juga makin improving. Dari Gold generation ( Nakata and co yg layak ke 2nd round WC 02 ) diganti dengan geng Platinum generation ( Honda, Kagawa, Nagatomo n Co ) yg juga layak ke 2nd round WC dan bermain beautiful n skillful football.

Harapnya our generation of footballers juga macam tu, generasi lama diganti dgn new generations yg makin improving ( fingers crossed that FAM won't f*** this up! ).

Unlimited pool of talents ni hanya dapat dicapai melalui environment yg betul2 football friendly. Cuba tengok sekeliling kita, adakah adik2 dan anak2 kita are currently being priviliged to this kind of environment?

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 8 2012, 06:05 PM

1. presiden FAM kene berundur
2. lantik TSAM ambil alih

dia ade idea, tp tak byk yg sapot dia sbb cara dia yg suka insult org lain .. antara idea2 dia seblom dia kene gantung:



mesti ade blue-print .. aku rasa TSAM dan konco2 nya dah kaji n tunggu masa je nk ubah bolasepak malaysia ni, tp aku rasa (ni aku rasa la) byk FA yg lain tk stuju sbb kene buat keje lebih hahahahahaah

mcm TSAM ckp, FAM ni kepala keretapi, dia menarik je, kalau gerabak tak ready susah la ..tu yg slow sbb gerabak taknak ubah ..nak FAM ubah susah la ..sbnrnye tak susah, kene bekerjasama, mulakan dari meeting, sediakan blue-print utk semua FA ikut , slowly dlm 10 tahun insyallah mmg bley ubah senario bolasepak malaysia, ..tp dgn cara ni pon tak boleh naikkan ranking FIFA , kene ambil masa juga ..

formula tu dah ade, tp TSAM tk sabar n tunggu 2015, dia keluarkan idea time tak ramai yg sapot dia dari dalam, tu yg terkono tu ....

Style kepimpinan TSAM memang agak brash. Tapi dia start insulting other quarters secara terang2an ( he got nothing to lose after all, why does he need to mince his words? ) lepas kena penggantungan 2 1/2 tahun je, sebelum ni memang TSAM x insult sapa2 secara jelas.

Aku rasa TSAM memang jadi kurang sabar sebab FAM ni bergerak terlalu slow.. tu yg jadi panas tu...

This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 11 2012, 02:23 AM

dh tiba masanya utk gulingkan presiden FAM ..

current national team, biar mereka dgn target mereka 2015 ...yg ni tak perlu kacau sbb kalau kita kacau, kita blom tentu dpt bariskan pemain terbaik utk kelayakan Asia sbb kita cuma akan dpt player2 dlm liga-M "ketika ini" ..tukar coach tak pulihkan keadaan, sbb kita akan dpt player yg sama (dlm liga-M) ..

yg kita nak, player2 yg kualiti mcm liga jepun ..dan aku rasa (ni aku rasa lg la ..asik rasa2 je) nk jadikan liga kita mcm liga jepun memang mustahil melainkan presiden FAM ditukar..

bile presiden FAM ditukar dgn org baru, maksudnya org baru, muka baru, bukan ahli kerabat dia jugak, org yg tau pasal bolasepak ke, ...baru la bleh implement idea2 yg aku rasa dah menimbun2 dr bekas2 pemain bolasepak, pakar2 bolasepak, cikgu2 skolah, mahupon forumer2 yg mmg ghairah nk tengok malaysia main world cup.....

aku rasa generasi zaman skg pon dah aware n syarikat2 kaya dlm malaysia tunggu masa je nak laburkan budget diorg utk pembangunan bolasepak, tu pon kalau kita ada 'blue-print' , mcm TSAM ckp la .. ni blue-print pon tarak, harapkan projek Harimau MUda A, B, frenly jauh2 ...tu yg syarikat sume tak yakin dgn idea mcm ni ...

melainkan .. haha ... ni melainkan TSAM sahut cabaran, membuat magic dari state level ..

melainkan FA mcm kelantan dah mula buat program sendiri, buat 10 kelab dibawah kelantan FA, dan semua 10 kelab dibwh kelantan tu masuk liga-super, top 10 pon kelab2 dr kelantan, champion AFC and Asian Champions League pon semua dr kelab kelantan, maka secara tak lansung kelantan dah jd pengeluar pemain2 berkualiti liga-jepun , .. mcm ni tak mustahil ...

Meanwhile tomorrow, WC qualification showdown


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oh .. btw, aku tertarik dgn penulisan yg ini hahahahahaha

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ape reaksi beliau slps juara?

This post has been edited by mdnosz: Jun 12 2012, 08:10 AM

Aku igt lagi zaman pre-AFF 2010 dekat HMC.... masa tu tgh kalut ade pihak yang nak Coach RG masukkan pemain senior dan on-form dalam Liga M ke dalam squad. Group ni diketuai oleh rimauXI.
mungkin disebabkan pressure tu dan ditambah dgn kecederaan melampau, RG tunduk dan called up Amri Yahya dan Razman Roslan dan diturunkan pada first eleven first match....

malaysia terus kene bantai 5-1....

lepas tu dedua orang ni kene drop dan RG stuck in to his tried and tested youngsters for damage limitation and we manage to get out of the group with the scruff of our neck.... and the rest is history....


Amri Yahya and Razman Roslan was never called up to RG squad ever again after that...

Geng Jepun x puas hati ---> ref kena beli? Match tahap tertinggi kelayakan WC Asia zone pun ada kontroversi ref yg sangat meragukan....hmm....

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This post has been edited by Icahn: Jun 12 2012, 11:59 PM

liga jepun, diaorang diajar oleh coach, jurulatih diaorang untuk tendang tepak dari jarak jauh..


video kat atas coach liga jepun tunjuk camne nak score, buat long range shot yang amat tepat masa pertandingan masih berlangsung.. dari tepi padang lagi

benda nombor #1 paling penting dalam bola sepak ialah MENANG, selagi bola tu tak masuk jaring selagi tu la tak akan menang, jadi tendangan mesti setiasa tepat.. kalau bagi berjuta peluang, satu pun tak masuk.. banding dengan satu lagi pasukan tendang sekali je dah masuk gol.. maknanya pasukan yang main teruk tu tapi tendang tepat dan masuk gol, dia la yang menang.

This post has been edited by hack3line: Jun 13 2012, 12:29 AM

yup bro.. aku setuju.. nmpk sgt built up player dari usia kecik diorg tu dh berhasil.. tgk je player jepun yg lawan team olimpik kita kat stadium tosu tahun lps.. kiyotake(nurnberg), hiroki sakai(hannover 96) akan start men kt bundesliga season dpn.. gotoku sakai sukses on loan kat vfb stuggart season lps and mybe akan sign permanent deal ngan stuggart.. nmpk coop antara JFA & bundesliga dh dpt majukan bola sepak jepun..

rasanya No.1 ajar macamana nak tahan bola dengan betul...dah main sampai tua pun masih tahan bola tak betul...hish sedih2..

tahan bola tu isue dari kecik... kalau dah start main pro pon dah takle tahan bola lagi, memang bad habit tu dah set in... memang ke tua la...


tahap yang kita nampak sekang ni memang takkan berubah mana dah... harapan kita adalah guna apa yang berlaku sekarang untuk inspire changes untuk future generation... bebudak umur 8-11 tahun sekang...


tapi hasilnya 15 tahun lagi la baru nampak... tu pon kalau mantain focus dan sabar....


bab sabar tu ramai yang takleh buat...

yeap setuju..harap2 generasi baru diajar cara permainan/taktikal baru atau betul...

My boss pernah ajar satu ilmu baru ---> Please find a way how to teach an old dog new tricks = jangan berpegang kepada english saying tu lagi.

Jadi pemain yg dah pro pun still ada harapan lagi boleh diperbetulkan skill tahan bola mereka

wanna be like the japs? well for starters,how about forcing those teams who wanna compete in national level to set up their own academy? and make a league system for their u-21 as well(no.competition like president cup aint gonna cut it)

no money?bs....i know every state team got backing from their state government,not to mention fam grant.

yup .. alasan no money tu mmg alasan yg paling bodo, kalau presiden FA ckp no money, elok la dia letak jawatan secara terhormat ..

kalau kepala hotak tu malas nak fikir cari sponsor, cari duit, etc2 yg melibatkan kewangan, tak payah keje la weh, baik keje gomen je tunggu pencen ...sialan betul ..pantang aku kalau FA pakai alasan tkde duit .. jepun dah main world cup, kita masih lagi nak pakai alasan takde duit

kalau dah tak mampu nak bangunkan bolasepak, dah tak mampu sgt, tak payah la pakai alasan lagi, sila berikan peluang kpd org2 yg mampu ....

benda nie tak tahu mana silapnya tapi rasa2nya pihak pengurusan yang harus dipersalahkan..

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Added on June 18, 2012, 7:58 am terbaeeekkk....

EDIT: kena buat BERSIH 4.0 untuk bolasepak malaysia plak

This post has been edited by Microsuck_360: Jun 18 2012, 08:00 AM

masalahnye skg, semua yang presiden2 dalam state FA tu adalah politician yang talk cock.

macamana mau tendang

Let's think of ways on how to increase the funding and finances of Malaysian football. What if we allow betting/liqour companies/conglomerates to become sponsors? In Europe byk giler sponsors from betting/gambling/liquor companies. They have the money. Ours we have magnum, genting dll. Tengok jersy and iklan-iklan tepi padang league diaorang. Of course, they also have legalized game betting. Kala tak legal buat apa dia nak sponsor, betul tak? So maybe we can get them to shower money into football provided the goverment/people accept professional betting as legal activities/entities. So what say you? In b4, judi itu haram.

benda ni akan berlaku conflict of interest

apa yang europe buat tak semestinya sesuai kat negara kita

budaya, cuaca, culture, agama etc etc etc.
put aside agama kejap lah

apa yang ko rasa mindset orang kita dah ready nak terima legalize betting?

I was merely spewing out possibilities. I don't know other's mindset, that's why I ask. By saying "tak semestinya", in this context, should I read that as a dismissal? Another part not very clear to me is "conflict of interest". Whose interest are you referring to? The sponsor? Society? Clubs? Players? Officials?

this.

too many parties that we need to addres which means we are merely not ready for it.
and my bet is, society will have the biggest NO as Malaysia is a Muslim country as a whole. This will relates to political issues

I had try to understand what is your post but i can not make it but here is the good Japanese national team video uploaded i like it very much.

Cuba baca artikel ni. Sesuatu yg patut kita teladani. Fans Jepun sangat yakin diri, very confident dan tetap mahukan yg terbaik buat NT mereka walaupun baru sahaja mengalami kekalahan. Notwithstanding that they had just won 1-0 vs France which is something to be lauded...

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Date: October 16, 2012 Location: Poland
Japan 0
0 1H 2
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4 Brazil
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Paulinho (12')
Neymar (25' PK)
Neymar (47')
Kaka (76’）

Cautions Ramirez
David Ruiz
Eiji Kawashima; Atsuto Uchida (Hiroki Sakai 45'), Maya Yoshida (Yuzo Kurihara 89'), Yasuyuki Konno,　Yuto Nagatomo; Makoto Hasebe (Hajime Hosogai 60'), Yasuhito Endo, Hiroshi Kiyotake (Ryo Miyaichi 89'), Kengo Nakamura (Takashi Inui 45'), Shinji Kagawa; Keisuke Honda

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Just four days have passed since Japan recorded its "historic" defeat of France, at the Stade de France, and not surprisingly, the overseas press focused on the result more as a reflection of France's frailties than of Japan's strengths. Virtually every headline contained a word like "shock" or "surprise" or even "embarrassment". Considering that just two months ago, the Europress was in "shock" at Japan's defeat of Spain at the London Olympics, it would seem that reporters in the region do not have particularly good memories. It goes without saying that nobody recalls Japan's defeat of a full-strength Argentina, last summer, and of course the team's success at the 2010 World Cup is ancient history. But as the long list of such results grows, there are signs that at least a few people are starting to notice the Samurai Blue. The question that fans of Zack Japan were asking themselves was whether the team would be able to maintain the form they have shown over the past few years, and at least register a good showing against Brazil. One "shock" per month might be easy for European football fans to forget, but two in a row, against the likes of France and Brazil - now surely THAT would be enough to get folks to take notice.

Brazil, however, are a team that Japan can no longer hope to "catch by surprise". Not only have have the South Americans learned their lesson not to underestimate the Samurai Blue - that has been true for many years, at least since Japan posted two draws against the Green and Gold in consecutive Confederations Cups. More importantly, Brazil has first-hand knowledge of the current trends in Japan, fro the many players and coaches who pass through the country every season. Indeed, one of Brazil's brightest young stars - Givanildo "Hulk" de Souza" - spent the most formative years of his career at Kawasaki Frontale, Consadole Sapporo and Tokyo Verdy. He and his former Frontale teammate Kengo Nakamura exchanged news and pleasantries as the teams awaited the call to parade out onto the pitch. Following the result at Stade de France on Friday, the Brazilians surely reminded themselves that they woud have to take care of business on Tuesday, lest they too suffer the sort of "shock" that France did.

Zaccheroni did his best to keep the opposition guessing, by sending out a very unusual lineup. Several people in the domestic press have discussed using Keisuke Honda as a "striker" rather than an out-and-out forward, but it was still a bit of a surprise to see him lining up just ahead of Kengo Nakamura, to take the opening kick. The main counterargument to using Honda as a striker is that opposing teams might be able to compress the pitch longitudinally, and keep the danger in front of their defensive line. Having essentially six midfielders has advantages in terms of controlling the middle of the pitch, but while it might win a large share of possession, the question is whether it can trouble the opposing defence.

Zaccheroni appeared to be counting on the use of a unique alignment to offset the lack of longitude with greater latitude. When Japan won the ball, it appeared that the two deep midfielders - Endo and Hasebe - took up wider positions than one usually associates with a 4-2-3-1. We would have to ask Zaccheroni himself whether this was deliberate or accidental, but it LOOKED like he was giving Uchida and Nagatomo (the wingbacks) free reign to press forward when Japan had the ball, and having Endo and Hasebe perform the balancing and wide coverage wingbacks usually provide. We would have to see this formation used against other opposition before we could say how good it would be as a long-term solution. But if the two deep midfielders are replaece with "newer models", and a slightly more effective two-way midfielder can be found to fill the spot that Kengo Nakamura held - a pivot around which the rest of the midfield rotated - this could indeed be a system that offers the Samurai Blue an interesting new option.

Japan's early offensive pressure was good, and as you might expect given the numerical advantage in midfield, they were able to win a lot of possession and deny Brazil the passing angles that they needed to create offensive pressure. Unfortunately, while they were still trying to develop a rhythm, Paulinho managed to slip into a pocket of space that the slow-footed Nakamura was unable to close down in time, and Paulinho drove a powerful 30-meter shot into the low left corner, just beyond the fingertips of Kawashima. Brazil had the comfort of an early lead, which made it very unlikely that the Samurai Blue could frustrate the opponent into making mistakes, as they did with France.

Nevertheless, Japan's buildup and ball work in midfield was quite enjoyable to watch. Honda and Kagawa did a good job of collecting the ball in an advanced position and allowing the rest of the team to move forward in support. The buildup was sleek, precise and flowing; a real joy to watch. But the drawback that we anticipated - an inability to really threaten the goal - did in fact materialize as the six midfielders ended up being herded to the edge of the box and kept there by the powerful and savvy Brazilian defenders. To make matters worse, the Polish referee handed Brazil a second goal midway through the half, calling Yasuyuki Konno for a hand ball as he was falling to the turf in the penalty box. Even the relatively pro-Brazilian crowd whistled derisively at the call, but Neymar scored from the spot and there was nothing the Samurai Blue could do to change the 2-0 deficit.

For the remainder of the first half Brazil sat back in a counterattacking stance, and though Japan had a lot of possession and some good buildup work, the lack of any real power and size in the box made it impossible for them to accomplish much besides entertaining the crowd.

Naturally, when a coach insists on playing three plodding midfilders together, in complete disregard for the long history of failure that such a selection brings, we cant let the matter pass without comment. We will say this - the positioning of Endo and Hasebe in "sideback/volante positions" reduced the negative impact of their immobility to a great extent. Nevertheless, it was obvious that the number one shortcoming of the Samurai Blue during the first half (apart from the lack of a scoring threat up front) was their sluggish movement in deep midfield. The first goal was entirely attributable to Kengo's inability to close Paulinho down quickly. The second goal should never have been given, but Brazil had many other dangerous chances which were created by a similar lack of lateral mobility in deep midfield. Perhaps if Zack tries the same formation and strategy, but puts speedier players like Hosogai and Takahashi into the mix, the strategy might work. As it was, all we can do is wonder about what might have been.

It was no surprise to see Takashi Inui replace Kengo at half time, and not particularly surprising to see Hiroki Sakai take over for Uchida on the right. The surprise lay in who was NOT replaced. Hasebe was a bit sharper than he had been in the France game, but he and Endo together were too slow to close down the Brazilian duo of Neymar and Oscar in the middle of the pitch. One, if not both, should have made way. Hasebe demonstrated his shortcomings just after the break, as he again failed to mark Neymar properly on a corner kick, and allowed Brazil to extend their lead with one of the ugliest goals you could imagine. Five minutes later Neymar ran past Endo like he was standing still . . . well . . . in fact he WAS standing still . . . and Hasebe was unable to do much better, pulling the Brazilian playmaker down on the edge of the box. Fortiunately, Hulk's kick hit the base of the left post and bounded away to safety.

Kagawa had a golden opportunity to cut the arrears moments later, on a corner kick for Japan, but he pulled his shot wide to the right when open at the top of the Brazil penalty box. Honda waws bundled over in the area, but the obviously-biased officials saw no harm and let play continue. It was only at this point - sixty minutes into the contest - that Zaccheroni FINALLY pulled Hasebe and replaced him with Hosogai. Hosogai's first action was to make a steal in deep midfield and break out, easing the pressure on Japan's defence for the first time in the half. One can only speculate on what might have eventuated if the younger, fleeter footed players like Hosogai and Inui had been in the lineup from the outset.

All in all, the content of Japan's play in this match was very encouraging. Two issues made the difference, and spoiled what might have been a very competitive and exciting match: the lack of mobility in deep midfield and the lack of a clinical finisher. It would be very intriguing to see what the team could do with Hosogai and Inui playing from the opening whistle, and with Okazaki in the place of Kiyotake (who should be the first sub off the bench). Okazaki is also a midfielder, but his shooting instincts are far superior to those of Kiyotake (or even Honda and Kagawa, for that matter). With those changes, and an officiating staff that doesnt view their role as to ensure that the crowd gets to see Brazil score logs of goals, this could have been a very close contest. But because of a critical mistake in player selection, all we have to take away from this match are "might have beens". While they have contributed greatly to Japanese football, it is time to hand Endo and Nakamura (and perhaps Hasebe as well) a gold watch for retirement, and bring in players with the foot speed needed to compete at the international level.

http://www.the-rising-sun-news.com/news/in...brazil-20121016

This post has been edited by Icahn: Oct 22 2012, 04:13 PM

You are exactly right. The tobacco, liquor and beer boys are big spenders but their hands are tied. Having to practice dark marketing however means that they don't get to brand anything which limits ROI. The other big spenders are the telcos but Maxis in particular are fixated on the Premier League which has a much bigger audience than the local league.

When Vicent Tan gets denied a gambling license, I doubt anyone will be getting one soon.

Lets just hope with new climate spearheaded by kelantan fans will open a lot of corporate eyes. We not just need sponsors but real partner like astro is.


Right now ATM and johor royal is going gung ho into local football with budgets which is a good thing.

With out football STILL haunted by match fixing scandal, our locall football image is too fragile to be associated with sports betting.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Oct 26 2012, 03:06 AM

Walaupun off topic, tetapi x tahu nak post kat mana.
Perasaan berpuak2 yg keterlaluan dikatakan menjadi driving force behind Dortmund's recent success.
Ini mungkin satu faktor yg dijadikan sebagai driving force/motivasi dalam sukan?

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The secret of Dortmund’s success? They’re the anti-Bayern

By Kit Holden
Football, Sport
Friday, 13 April 2012 at 12:46 pm


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The excitement which has greeted Borussia Dortmund’s rise to power over the last two years reached its zenith this week, as Germany anticipated the deciding fixture in one of its most significant title races of the last two decades. Jürgen Klopp’s young Dortmund side have, with Wednesday night’s 1-0 victory over FC Bayern, completed their transition from likeable young pretenders to being a genuine threat to Bayern’s long term monopoly over the Bundesliga.

Now six points clear at the top of the table, BVB look set to become the first team in nearly two decades to deny Bayern the title for two successive years. The secret of their success? Ask Jürgen Klopp, ask the romantics, and they will tell you that Dortmund are the anti-Bayern. Their own club.

A club with true fans, true support – true love, as the club motto says. The apparent antithesis of the “Mia San Mia”, siege mentality superiority of their Bavarian rivals. They are a different kind of champion – the “Meister der Herzen”, champions for the people – with the possible exception of those in Gelsenkirchen and Munich.

In the end, though, it was not the famed Bavarian arrogance which saw them squander their last real hope of the title. Nor was it the plucky, honest spirit of the likeable young scamps from Dortmund which saw them edge clear Bayern in the title race. In the end, it was just a question of which superpower would win out on the night.

If there was one thing that Dortmund did not resemble, it was an honest underdog. Instead, the victory heralded their arrival once more as a ruthless power, capable of combining glorious footballing talent with relentless self belief, to create cold hard silverware.

When Neven Subotic greeted Arjen Robben’s missed penalty in the 86th minute by snarling in the Dutchman’s face, he justified it by saying “I don’t like players who dive.” The fact that Robben, for once, had not dived to win the penalty, did not matter. Subotic’s actions were unashamedly partisan, combative and competitive. They sparked memories of the Effenbergs, Kahns and Lehmanns who dominated the great Bayern and Dortmund teams of the last generation.

If Subotic hates diving so much, why does he not have a quiet word with some of his own team mates? Kevin Großkreutz and Moritz Leitner spring to mind. Both have been guilty of simulation against Bayern this year.

Großkreutz, meanwhile, reserves his most vicious bile not for the rich kids at Bayern, but rather anyone unfortunate enough to have once been affiliated with BVB’s local rivals Schalke 04, as demonstrated by his Effenbergian celebrations in front of Gerald Asamoah in the semi final of the DFB Pokal.

As for Dortmund’s much talked about fans, while the whole European press was quite rightly lauding Germany’s most impressive stadium atmosphere, the supporters who had done so well to create it were also launching bananas at Manuel Neuer.

Among the club’s hierarchy, meanwhile, there has been no earnest, “I would love it if we beat them” fighting talk, but rather a series of very Bayernesque statements of intent. When Jürgen Klopp kept repeating, towards the end of the season, that the title race wasn’t over, it could just as easily have been Christian Nerlinger speaking. Similarly,there was something unerringly Hoeness-like about Hans Joachim Watzke chastising Joachim Löw for picking only a single Dortmund player for an international friendly earlier in the year.

That Dortmund have played some delightful football over the last few years is indisputable. They deserved to win the title in 2011, and will deserve it again when they win it this year. With their undoubtable class, they have matured into snarling, fighting champions, and Bayern are now obliged to look on them, at the very least, as equals. That, in itself, is a phenomenal achievement.

But as they shed the naivete and the likeability of their hitherto so well maintained identity, Dortmund must also come to terms with the fact that any prolonged success will come at the price of resemblance to, if not imitation of, the hated team in red.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/04/13/...he-anti-bayern/

That's the thing. We've been faced with the same problem for the past 2 decades. Here's the thing. Some might think to apply the old adage of "if you can't beat them, join them". What I mean is like it or not, we will never completely eradicate sports betting and where there is betting, there is likely to be match fixing. The biggest leagues in the world are no exception. Sports betting overseas has however been legalised and hence, isn't a shady part of the game anymore. The problem we have is we cannot legalise gambling. Whether it is legal or not however, it doesn't eliminate match fixing unfortunately and to be frank, I've no idea what the solution is.

Kelantan has indeed set an example to the rest of the league. It isn't by luck that they are where they are today. The have a proper structure and the money that's being made is reinvested together with monies generated from sponsors to boost the commercial appeal of the club. I know non-Kelantanese who are fans of Kelantan and it's akin to the UK where a person originating from say Bristol, can be a fan of Man Utd. Bristol may be his local club but it has no commercial appeal and I don't need to tell you how powerful marketing tools are. I don't think Brittany Spears can sing but in her heyday, she had huge commercial appeal. These days, it has a lot to do with packaging and then product. The problem is we have neither.

I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of sponsors and why they are shying away from the league, aside from sports politics of course. To want to sponsor a team, one would want to cater to today's audience. I'll leave it to you to determine the demographics in terms of age, race, income level. I think it's safe to assume it doesn't exactly target the high income groups which is why it would make sense for a tobacco boy to want to sponsor the league, because cigarretes are affordable to the audience. Makes sense for telcos as well, hence why Happy sponsors Kelantan. Companies like Maxis won't because they have to look after their brand imagery and are this selective of who they are associated with. Even if the beer boys could, they wouldn't because the audience doesn't consume their product. Electronics? Automotive? I guess it would make sense for someone like Proton. Maybe Courts? There are suitable brands but I'm not sure what the Super League or individual teams are doing in this respect.

Courts already being a superb partner with singapore football so i think we also in their demographic as well if they want.

If we so much as give a pin hole of a chance fo tobacco to come in, they will bring soo much money that TMJ will feel like middle income earner. Even before, dunhil did not stopped theirRM 30mil per year sponsorship by choice.

Actually i think the 'sin' industries are so desperate for visibility that they will splash their ad money at anything they can IF they are allowed to. Which is a big IF.

At the end of the day, i dont want just the succesfull teams have sponsors. i am also cracking my head how to make even the bottom team can have enough profesional income to support their first team operation and youth developement. Meaning the sponsor are not just sponsors. But real partners who pour their labour of love into the team. I judge how healthy the football industry is not just by looking at its biggest team but the whole balance involving the smallest team as well.

Right now the amount of money we need to get our football industry to where we want it when we want it (gloryhunter malaysia want the NT to qualify to the world cup and msl to be as good as the epl NOW!!! ) is soo absurb i think only foreign MNC can give it. We need more crazy investors like astro, atm and tmj. Microsoft for instance has sponsored and indonesia team persebaya surabaya. I think foreign automative companies are good target group. Suzuki has hit the jackpot in the region by sponsoring the aff cup. Honda, toyota and nissan probaplly should take notice.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Oct 31 2012, 01:31 AM

Firstly, I need a better understanding of how local state teams are run. How much revenue does an average team make in a year from television, merchandise or ticket sales? After deducting overheads i.e. player salaries, staff wages, stadium maintanence, etc, do teams make a profit? If so, where does the profit go? Is it reinvested into the team or does it go into the state's coffers to do with as they see fit, whether or not it has to do with football?

In terms of sponsorship, whose responsibility is it to secure sponsors? The individual state FA's? Would it be better if teams were privatised? If you take basketball as an example, it's like the ABL where teams are owned by corporates. If you take Air Asia (or Tony Fernandez) as an example, they are in the F1, ABL and EPL. That being said Air Asia is already big here and isn't a viable option but what about a new player like Malindo? (http://www.malindoairlines.com/).

Again, we can throw a bunch of names into a hat but whose responsibility is it to speak to these folk?

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Nov 1 2012, 08:42 AM

About this, I don't know how it is now but I remember some years back, Sarawak state team was so low in finance they couldn't even afford to fly their players around the country to play games. When I went to a few of their games back in early 2000's, the stadium was hardly 1/2 full.

That being said, I guess if they had difficulties with revenue back then, I can only imagine how much harder it is now since Dunhill stopped sponsoring them which then limits the sponsor options greatly. I could be wrong but thought I'd throw this in anyway. I sometimes do wish for local football to pick up because I'd like to go to watch live games. But not with the current state of the game, or at least my state's team

I cant give u the correct answer but I firmly believe my answer is close enough to help u.

1. Revenue :

2. Profit


FA vs privatization :


sorry for my english

I can understand the lack of TV revenue actually. Unlike in bigger leagues, the local league doesn't have enough viewers. In the EPL for example, demand is so high that TV stations are bidding for rights to air matches. In Malaysia however, the league needs ASTRO more than ASTRO needs the league. Owning your own TV rights is dangerous because it will only favour the big teams like Kelantan. Even in the EPL, this is controlled and revenue is shared amongst clubs despite the protest from the big boys.

In terms of merchandise, it isn't all that cheap to purchase an original kit I imagine. I mean I bought the Harimau Malaya Kit for over RM200, but that's because NIKE has their stamp on it la. I believe the local state teams retail their kits at around RM50? I think this comes down to the fans really. If you do want to support your club and am concerned about their financial wellbeing, you'll buy original merchandise even if it means you have to save up for months. I believe somehow that most don't think their contribution will mean much in the bigger scheme of things, kind like why people don't recycle. I always advocate however that if you love your club and want them to do well, avoid replicas and help the club out.

In terms of privatisation I think you're right. It's the old folk who are still living in the stone age then needs to be kicked out. Having dealt with the TFA, I know exactly what you're saying. FFS, they don't even use email so how are they expected to keep abreast with current events? How are they expected to take the club forward in this new age? To them, it's all about taking what ever money they can from sponsors with no thought of reinvesting it.

I feel both sorry and angry that they can let the quality of the league slide so far down and be content with it.

what i mean is tv broadcasting shud be splurge according to airtime like BPL. of course it doesnt sounds fair but we're creating a league for competitiveness. until when these teams are going to hope those grants from FAM? How come teams like Kelantan/ N9/ Terengganu / Selangor who're going for bigger fish .. let say in AFC is going to compete if they still got the same amount of money like Sarawak / Sabah or maybe Pahang???
tv broadcasting money shud not be treated as grants..it's a different approach (altho it's still represents money basically)

FYI, Tan Sri Annuar Musa was also interested to push this kind of idea to FAM...too bad he's not in the job anymore (suspended)

p/s u will be surprise to know Sarawak FA team kit (brand StarSport) will cost u more than Selangor FA (Kappa) . This one I'm not sure how to gauge.

Malaysian Experiment Squad vs Japanese clubs dah tercungap2, kalau vs Japan NT in competitve matches macam mana agaknya?

At least time M'sia vs Japan Olympic qualification 2012 ke? Masa kat Japan, is still memorable....

perdebatan coach syazwan dan coach Icahn ni tidak akan ada kesudahannya.. dah macam terbuka buku ahli falsafah terhebat dunia pula dah.. aressandro10 dan mdnosz, jangan cucuk-cucuk sangat diaorang berdua ni.. nanti tak pasal-pasal boleh buat buku falsafah bola sepak dunia pula lepas ni..

http://www.oneworldsports.com/blogs/japan-...elgium-friendly

Beating a talented Belgium side. That's a really way forward.

Baguslah TSAM pun dah nak buat twinning programme dgn kelab Jepun. Patut dah lama Malaysian teams buat macam ni.

This post has been edited by Icahn: Nov 20 2013, 04:25 PM

try tengok movement, passing n teamplay japan...memang superb...

Diorang boleh buat gol high cross and header vs a European side yg obviously phsysically taller than them. THEY MUST HAVE UNLOCKED THE SECRET regarding high cross vs European teams....

what is their secret,
how are they training

really good to see people post long long post so i can have more knowledge...

Bro, Rajagopal did recall Amri Yahyah and Razman after AFF Suzuki 2010 after all.....

yap...akhirnya dedua orang itu dapat maasuk balik last last,,,