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 (True 4G) LTE 100-150Mbps 2013-2014 Malaysia V1, LTE is going to replace 3G in future

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post Dec 17 2012, 02:40 AM

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only few more days to go for the LTE to come to reality for malaysians.

also, will we need a different type of SIM card for smartphones to support LTE ?
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Dec 17 2012, 08:04 AM)
At the moment which smartphone and tablet got 2600 MHz band that is available here in Malaysia?
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have to wait first, once the telco's launch their LTE plans to general public in January 2013 then the tablets and smartphones will follow. Most smartphone's are already LTE capable but a few of them have software limitation since the manufacturers know Malaysia has no LTE as of yet so they bother not to include.

On the side note, anyone planning to upgrade/change smartphone I suggest to wait till 2013, let the telco launch LTE then its best to get a LTE capable smartphone.


Added on December 20, 2012, 4:10 pmLooks like P1 already commented on their release plan.
Lets see on 1st January who will be the first to hit the market with their LTE plans.

Source : http://www.telecomlead.com/4g-lte/lte-4g-s...egies-for-2013/

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post Dec 21 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Dec 21 2012, 10:47 AM)
well, i hope when they roll out ltd, then 3g data plan will reduce price a lot lot lot lot....
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guess that wont happen
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post Dec 23 2012, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 22 2012, 06:48 PM)
i cannot tahan with my crappy nokia already laugh.gif doh.gif i been bored with my nokia after 6 months already haha...i want 2 upgrade 2 android soon with LTE lulz
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dont upgrade now. wait for telco's to launch LTE first then only get a LTE compaible phone now. Most phones out there now no LTE. So better just wait 1-2 more months before initiating an upgrade.
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post Dec 23 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(fat16 @ Dec 23 2012, 07:57 AM)
P1 LTE not compatble with GSM telco LTE. P1 LTE will be backward compatible with P1 wimax 2.6 & 2.3ghz.
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ok thanks for the info
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post Dec 26 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Dec 26 2012, 04:40 PM)
When ? 2020?
Which ISP got the Balls?
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Will have to wait n see
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(notebok78 @ Dec 27 2012, 03:34 AM)
Hope dream comes true!
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I just can't wait for LTE launch by local telco
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post Dec 28 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 28 2012, 09:08 AM)
counting down.. few more days to go.. can't wait to see how are they going to market and sell it
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well it will be just like 3g plan but price will be double I am assuming
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post Dec 30 2012, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 28 2012, 03:25 PM)
I got 4 LTE modem all capable of detecting LTE

But I am not selected to be in the trial run doh.gif

The add on of LTE means more competition which is good to push our current fiber operator to reach at least 50Mbps
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We're u able to detect digi LTE network?
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post Dec 31 2012, 04:19 PM

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Tomorrow is the big day. Digi said they will make sure they are the first to roll out LTE. Lets wait and see. Only few hours left when the clock strikes 12
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post Jan 1 2013, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 31 2012, 05:57 PM)
I completely 100% agree with this. I'm 100% neutral and understand both technologies very well. But there is another user Ahn3hn3h who keeps giving wrong technical info to the public and saying that TD-LTE is way better than FDD. I dont know why he get so angry with FDD LTE, probably his dad sells TD-LTE device but unfortunately TD-LTE didn't get adopted as wide as FDD...


Added on December 31, 2012, 6:37 pm

2 things you forgot (or probably you dont know):

1. DL & UL have different spectral efficiency.. DL can do MIMO spatial multiplexing and 64QAM, whereas UL can only do 1 stream and 16QAM. And because of this difference, the capacity of DL & UL in FDD will never be symmetrical (as what you claim). What I meant by spectral efficiency is "DL Spectral efficiency in LTE" and "UL Spectral efficiency in LTE". So if you compare DL spectral efficiency of TD-LTE & FDD, they are of course the same. Try answer this (any Telco RF engineer can sure work this out very easily): How many bits can be transmitted in a subcarrier in (i) TD-LTE (ii) FDD LTE for DL? The answer is the same for both. And same goes for the UL. Do you understand what is spectral efficiency now? Number of bits per Hertz. I guess you get confused with spectral efficiency and capacity.

2. True that TD is flexible, but you can't really have a different TD configuration (ratio) in an area, that will cause massive interference. So you'll have to stick to only 1 configuration, and if you want to change it, you will need to change in the whole network. You can have different TD configurations but you will need border in between the network area, e.g. TDD mode 1 in west Malaysia and TDD mode 2 in east Malaysia. You probably haven't come across this?

Let me guess, your resource and reference on LTE is only google, thats why your knowledge is so limited? I'm sharing with you what I've compiled from 3GPP specs the peak speed (MAC layer) of FDD and all configurations of TDD below. All are using total of 20MHz. Hope this is enough to open your mind a bit. I can also tell you which TDD mode is widely used, what makes their peak speed difference if you are interested to know. I can even share with you how to find 3GPP specs, if you dont know how to find them.

If you compare FDD 2x10MHz with TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1 (which divides the resource equally for DL & UL just like FDD), can you see that FDD gives more capacity? Do you know why? I can help to explain if you're interested to know more about resource allocation in LTE

FDD 2x10MHz              DL 75.4Mbps    UL 25.1Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 0    DL 38.3Mbps    UL 29.5Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1    DL 69.4Mbps    UL 19.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 2    DL 95.6Mbps    UL 9.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 3    DL 95.6Mbps    UL 14.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 4    DL 112.3Mbps  UL 9.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 5    DL 125.5Mbps  UL 5.4Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1    DL 53.8Mbps    UL 24.7Mbps

By the way.. how do you there is clash between east and west? Would be glad if you could share any readings on this..


Added on December 31, 2012, 6:39 pm

Probably all 3 will launch at 12am?


Added on December 31, 2012, 10:11 pmLooks like Maxis 4G LTE is already commercially available http://www.maxis.com.my/4GLTE/main.asp?m=f

Check Digi and Celcom website, LTE commercial availability still not there
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Will we need to change the sim card to enjoy LTE service?
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post Jan 2 2013, 01:40 PM

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Looks like maxis is really going all out promoting their LTE network. I noticed so many ad's deployed in this past 2 days only.

Guess maxis is going to take the lead again this time.
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post Jan 2 2013, 07:28 PM

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Celcom unveiled their LTE with a different approach. They set up booth to test their speed. One in their HQ and another one in Sunway Blue Cube
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post Jan 2 2013, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(adiyon84 @ Jan 2 2013, 07:41 PM)
You guys can see at this link. Speed seems fast enough...
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Actually I was expecting at least 50mbps blink.gif
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post Jan 3 2013, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(chuahcs79 @ Jan 2 2013, 08:29 PM)
yea me too, anything lower than that is consider DC-HSPA+ era,..  hmm.gif
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Well let's wait and see, what happens.
Still waiting some news from Digi. I hope this time they follow other telco. If they don't I'm sure migrating to Maxis or Celcom for sure.
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post Jan 3 2013, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Jan 3 2013, 12:38 PM)
"Elsewhere in the Southeast Asia region, Singapore's three mobile operators have already launched LTE services, with M1 the first to offer commercial LTE services in June 2011. In the Philippines, LTE networks went live in 2011." quoted from ZDNet.

Malaysia is such slow poke...  rclxub.gif
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When it comes to data affair malaysia is always last in the list. Look at digi, till today no HSPA+, still crawling at 3G 800kbps.
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(adiyon84 @ Jan 3 2013, 06:38 PM)
800Kbps? Really? I just bought my iPad Mini together with Tablet Plan from DiGi (since I have to bundled with it) thru DiGi online store. But I always get 5Mbps at my home and 3-4Mbps when I went to Lowyat. So far, okay to me at all.

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Sorry off topic. LOL!
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I never got anything more then 1mbps cry.gif

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post Jan 4 2013, 06:18 PM

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The B593 looks dahsyat

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post Jan 4 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 4 2013, 06:23 PM)
This is a Huawei B593 sweat.gif
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oh yes sorry...
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post Jan 5 2013, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 5 2013, 12:11 AM)
Thought they have Huawei Ascend P1? I'm sure they will be more smartphones coming, but probably they didnt dare to say anything yet until they closed the deals with phone manufacturers
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For sure more LTE capable phones will be flooding the market soon. It's all matter of time. Not a long time but very short when it comes to technology.

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