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 (True 4G) LTE 100-150Mbps 2013-2014 Malaysia V1, LTE is going to replace 3G in future

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DrPitchard
post Dec 12 2012, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(SoraDestiny @ Dec 12 2012, 07:40 AM)
hey guys.... i jz wanna ask....

Lets say i jz got my maxis 3G simcard and using huawei E398 modem.....
will i get 4G speed when it comes or i jz get 3G speed???
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The 3G simcard is actually not related to the 3G network speed that we know of. Rather, it is connected to the amount of Phonebook records (500).

You will be able to use the same SIM card and enjoy 4G LTE speeds once its launched. All that matters is the device itself and the communication tower that you are connected to (is it 4G site and how many users at that moment).
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:15 AM

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[quote=alf233,Dec 13 2012, 10:29 AM]
Yes you're right.. But you still need the SIM:

1. If I remember correctly, you'll need 128k or higher SIM in order to get LTE. So if your current 3G sim is 128k, then you can use the existing SIM and dont have to change the SIM. (I dont know why 128k, it's probably stated in the standard specs)

2. SIM contains the subscriber identity. The identity needs to be provisioned in the core network in order for you to access the LTE network. So you still can't connect to Celcom/Maxis/Digi/etc LTE network if you have LTE-capable SIM, LTE-capable device & LTE-capable tower. You'll need to get the operator to provision their core network to allow your SIM first

Yeap, correct. Provisioning is done automatically once you insert the SIM card into your phone and switch it on. If you are currently holding to a 2G SIM card, you will need to change out to 3G SIM card. For existing 3G SIM card users, you will not be required to change out your SIM cards to enjoy the 4G/LTE speeds.


Added on December 13, 2012, 11:17 am[quote=fat16,Dec 12 2012, 09:09 PM]
last time celcom 2G to 3G have to go to service center to upgrade sim.
last time digi 2G to 3G have to call digi to enable 3G.
forget with maxis.

Meaning u need 4G enable sim card before able to see 4G LTE network. I think u can borrow sg friend 4G sim ?
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A 3G SIM card is all you need. Currently, there is no 4G SIM cards in the market yet. 4G/LTE is just for data connection only, thus, when you receive an incoming call or make an outgoing call, you will actually realise that the connection speed will change back to 3G. Once the call has ended, it will take awhile before it hooks back onto the 4G/LTE network connection.

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post Dec 28 2012, 03:22 PM

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Any selected Maxis users here who are doing the LTE trial run? How's the experience so far?

To me, with the launch of LTE, telcos will need to launch new packages which are much more expensive. Can't use the current packages (etc: 500MB, 1GB, 3GB) as it will be gone in no time since speed too fast liao
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 28 2012, 03:25 PM)
I got 4 LTE modem all capable of detecting LTE

But I am not selected to be in the trial run doh.gif

The add on of LTE means more competition which is good to push our current fiber operator to reach at least 50Mbps
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I don't think there will be a direct competition as one (fixed line) offers unlimited and the other (wireless) will always have a quota to it. Quota has always been an issue between consumers and telco players, and will always continue to be, not just here in Malaysia but world wide. AT&T and Verizon Wireless have launched their LTE network back in the states, with AT&T's max data plan at 5GB and Verizon at 10GB.

Need to be at least Maxis One Club member to be selected kua....and also Elite (means spending more than RM500/month.) Trial run has been going on for months already.
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 28 2012, 03:58 PM)
You got the point. smile.gif I think Sprint offered unlimited quota buy for Mobile Internet only.
At least this can stop fiber from advertising as fastest, which they will work more harder to use back their fastest term.
Currently only selling point of fiber is their fastest in Malaysia slogan.

My family line got almost 10 number and spend more than 3K per month yet I am not selected.
Are you one of them brows.gif
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Is it under a single account? If yes, then should be selected. Well, you need to be staying nearby a LTE enabled site too for a start.... :-)
No, I'm not one of them, sad to say....neither do I have a LTE enabled device.
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post Jan 3 2013, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(chuahcs79 @ Jan 3 2013, 01:49 AM)
heard news that Digi is joining force with celcom soon,

how true was that ?  hmm.gif
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Very unlikely...
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post Jan 3 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 3 2013, 01:20 PM)
Yes Malaysia is slow. When LTE is launched here in Malaysia, there are already more than 50 countries that have already launched LTE.

It all depends on the regulator actually. For example UK, they still dont have LTE because of the regulator just recently allocated the spectrum.
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+1. Really depends on whether the regulators want to grant license or not. A lot to take into consideration actually, and of course, a lot of money involved, in terms of foreign flow of investment (Digi) and so on.

The governments decision in awarding only 20MHz blocks of spectrum to all the main players, forces them to collaborate among one another to fully use LTE's capabilities.

I guess, for consumers, it was always only about getting it as soon as possible at an even cheaper rate than the current technology, not being aware that there is so much complications behind it, in terms of the investment of the infrastructure and also the upgrade of the current voice call infrastructure.

Why does the the voice call infrastructure has to be upgraded? Is it not compatible with the LTE data systems? That is a different story entirely....
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QUOTE(rattan @ Jan 3 2013, 06:30 PM)
When it comes to data affair malaysia is always last in the list. Look at digi, till today no HSPA+, still crawling at 3G 800kbps.
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I'm afraid that is wrong. Digi launched their 3.5G @ HSDPA a few years back, and their network is capable of achieving 7.2Mbps download speed. Just like the other operators, not everywhere is covered with HSDPA and that too, depends on a lot of other factors, such as how many users are hooked onto that transmitting site, the signal interference, the device itself that the user is using and so on.


Added on January 3, 2013, 6:58 pmTheir coverage area is without a doubt smaller than Celcom and Maxis though, especially rural areas.

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post Jan 3 2013, 07:23 PM

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LTE speed with Maxis Broadband @ TTDI.
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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 3 2013, 07:34 PM)
wow.. the upload is superb.. that is almost theoretical (25Mbps)
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I'm working in the telco industry and was physically just right beside the transmission site moments ago.... :-)
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QUOTE(xelamil @ Jan 3 2013, 07:45 PM)
And when they finally do roll out LTE... the speed will be "with a Likely Average Speed of (gasp, drumroll) 1Mbps..."  brows.gif


Added on January 3, 2013, 7:46 pm

I wonder when this will be available in Penang...
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Hahahaha, not that bad lar....maybe around 10-30Mbps?
If the speed for LTE is only 1Mbps, I suggest you sue the telco provider and make big hu ha about it.
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 3 2013, 08:26 PM)
Guess I should sue them

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Complained and waited for more than 6 months all giving excuses doh.gif

Planning to wait for the last time until Maxis last promise is to solve it by the end of January

Note, this is DC-HSPA+
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What device are you using? Is it capable of achieving more than 7.2Mbps? In my opinion, if the speed is far from promised, then its jz a simple decision that you have, which is to change provider. But, if you have a contract with them, then you can argue their speed is not as promised, thus, the reason why you want to cancel the contract and have the penalty waived. This is especially true if its a wireless broadband or fibre internet. If they don't agree to terminate and waive the penalty, then only the sue scenario comes into picture.

If it's just because the speed is not as advertised, you have no contract and you want to sue, then you'll be going nowhere with that...
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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 4 2013, 12:01 AM)
Think he's only joking about suing, guess all providers already got clauses to save them in the TnC  smile.gif

Yep, change to other providers, but make sure test it out first, you dont want to end up having the same problem
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Yeah, the moment you sign that T&C acceptance form, its gonna be hard for the user...
Some customers take it seriously, and sue the telco providers for millions in losses!!! (can't carry out business such as online share trading, causing them to lose a fortune).

Outcome: Judge throws the case out of court and scolds the customer not to waste ppl's time. Besides that, have to pay the legal fee's for the telco side.

REAL STORY!
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post Jan 8 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(rattan @ Jan 8 2013, 01:20 AM)
As I suspected. Most telco is releasing LTE for data use only. No voice over LTE as for now. What a disappointment
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Are you aware about the implications of the switch? From traditional voice to VoLTE? I personally don't see this coming any time soon, due to the nature of the Malaysian market, where still a sizeable portion of the market is still not using smartphones and thus, data.
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QUOTE(rattan @ Jan 8 2013, 02:51 PM)
So called HD voice, is there a difference in call quality ?
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Besides clarity, I think they will be other add on services. Maybe background sound, or voice with repeat, or can change the tone....I don't know, just making wild guess.

But what I'm certain is it will eradicate the current voice mechanism. So, instead of minutes, calls will now be in KB's or MB's. People will now only be needing Data and no more minutes, sms and data. All will be lumped into one, data. Besides that, it kills battery ultra fast too. Can google up and read more about it.

 

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