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post Sep 3 2012, 12:42 PM

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im not owning any EB but once, was a potential buyer of the EB CFE and was doing quite a reading works related to this model for some info.. as far as im concerned, SAT did not contribute to any performance gain. its just the feeling of changing the gear... once u turn on the SAT, than the CVT gearbox would feel more towards the normal converter transmission.. u would feel the jerking of normal transmission and a bit of faster response on gear changing.. thats all SAT do... some people just cannot stand the lagginess of CVT, and this gap was filled by the SAT mode... just my 2 cents..
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post Sep 11 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(jinggo80 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:49 PM)
CONFUSED

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Hi all,

Need to ask you all about the type of engine oil used for EB 1st service. I do refer to the manual and it says that you need to used  10W30 for engine oil.

But this morning I was told by the officer at the SC that the manual is wrong. It is duplicated from CPS exora. The reason he said is that our interval period for service is every 10k km that's why need to used fully synthetic which is Syntium 1000 15W50 is it true.???

Is it affect our engine in long term??

Anyone get the same experience??? rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
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its actually depending on how heavy do you used your EB. it was highly recommended for those who are a heavy traveller to use a high quality of EO (engine oil) which literally means fully synthetic... the advantage, u could prolonged ur service interval.. if the car was on heavy used, i will not let it last for 10k.. i would shorten the interval a bit, such as every 8k or 9k, because basically when it reach 8k, based on my own experience, the engine started to feel a bit lag, a sign of EO not performing well.. one might argue this, but im talking about the car was on heavy use, such as 10k of mileage in less than a month... if u think that u commute ur EB as usual, not so heavy driving, less long journey, u might opted for semi synthetic that required for a 5k service interval... mind you, VW car was design for fully synthetic EO on 15k service interval, but if u spoke to the mechanic, u will hear more less the same like the one i wrote above... just my 2 cents.. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(jinggo80 @ Sep 11 2012, 09:22 PM)
I thought the service  interval that shows in the service booklet and the types of EO in the manual have been take into consideration by those engineer in proton...Otherwise what is the point of having those info in the manual and the service booklet..?? Is it just the save point to be considered by the users ???

Can someone explain ??
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it was a general guidance... the minimum requirement for preventive maintenance for the car... the semi synthetic is the minimum grade.. u could go for the better EO, such as fully synthetic should u want to...
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(akchang @ Sep 9 2012, 10:03 PM)
Went for my 2nd service at odo 7000km @ Mutiara Damansara SC.

1. Regarding about the grounding whether will void warrany
- SA told my wife that this will void warranty cause it will disrupt the electrical circuit of the car and also part of modding. Isn't grounding helps to stabilize the electrical/curcuit running? And this couldn't consider modding.

2. Alignment/Camber
- Warranty not covered cause SA said alignment/camber easily gets out of alignment and always use. Couldnt hear properly what he tryin to say (on the phone with SA, wife took the car for service). IDK about that but can some one enligthen me about this ? Then why the heck absorber gets warranty which every sec gets abuse when your car in motion? But i got that fixed outside, which my camber lari minus 1.0!!

3. Change OCV which my exora bold had the recalled from Proton
- Fixed that sameday.

4. Sounds from the engine during idle or slowing down (like marble sounds)
- They couldn't figure out the problem and want 1 - 2 days to figure out. Told my wife forget about it, reschedule it for the check.

5. Passenger front seat making sound.
- THey couldn't fix it in time. KIV.

6. Engine Oil
- I bought my own oil (Mobil 1 5w-50 synthetic)  to change but SA do not want to use it cause they do not allowed it. I respect that. Then i'll ask them to use Syntium 1000 but he only give me Syntium 800. I asked why and he said that Syntium 1000 is too thin and will damage your car engine. Im was speechless on the phone and don't wanna to argue with him about vicosity of the oil because i dont think he understands them. You do not need a rocket scientist to figure it out.


Well, here;s my report of my 2nd service @ Mutiara Damansara SC.
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eh. last time i heard someone went to that mutiara damansara sc, he was told that synthium 1000 sold out, he even ask the SC to get it from the petronas nearby, and the SC did that... i couldnt recall who was that person. how come the same SC told u that synthium 1000 will damage the engine? if its more damaging than semi synthetic, why the heck it was sold double the price from the semi syn?!?! i cannot brain this.... shakehead.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(akchang @ Sep 12 2012, 02:02 PM)
For whatever reason i had no idea. I would get better grade oil for my EB if possible, but that is what they giving out now.
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seriously, the staff claim that fully synthetic will damage our modern aged engine is totally rubbish... it would be a different story should he said that to the 1970's car...
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post Sep 12 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Sep 12 2012, 04:50 PM)
According to Lotus engineers who help designed the CFE, they did on record say to use 10W30 and AFAIK, there are no Fully Synthetic 10W30 on the market. Even if you can find them, I am certain they are extremely rare. So are you saying you are smarter than the engine designer?
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with all respect, im not going to argue on what kind of viscocity or grade is the best since im not an expert in that field. but to say that fully synthetic is bad to your brand new engine is something that are argue-able... when almost all manufacturer started slowly to design the engine to fully utilised the fully synthetic, yet the sc is saying the fully synthetic is not good to ur engine, are u saying that all manufacturer was wrong?!?! and im positively sure, out of 5 from 10 sc, whenever u bring ur Exora or Preve (cfe), they will suggest fully synthetic rather than semi... is it purely based on their profit?!? Proton must be very wrong should they did that... just my 2 cents...
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post Sep 12 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Sep 12 2012, 05:10 PM)
Neither you nor I are automotive engineers. So it boils down to who should we believe, the engine manufacturer or the engine oil manufacturer? AFAIK, I think it's the engine manufacturer calling the final shot and setting up specification that oil manufacturer has to fulfill. Correct me if I am wrong.
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i second that.. but u have seen this on wrong perspective... 2 issues here
1. which one to believe that best to care your engine, engine oil manufacturer or engine designer
2. fully synthetic is good, or bad to ur engine...
im talking about the issue number 2 where the SC told our friend here that fully synthetic would harm his engine... that are totally unacceptable..

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post Sep 12 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Sep 12 2012, 05:23 PM)
If you believe the CFE manual, it did say you can use some Synthetic but not all Synthetic for CFE in Malaysia. So the SC is technically right because some Synthetic, not all, will indeed harm the engine. So do you know which Synthetic is the SC referring to?
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i could not answer that.. i wasnt there. but to make a statement that generalized all fully synt is bad to ur engine is definitely wrong...
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QUOTE(lime @ Jan 31 2013, 10:45 PM)
not sure is this the correct treat that i post, but i see this treat is more active compare to the other.

i'm going to have a decision to make with between Exora Bold Standard (CFE) VS ALZA EZI going to get either one of it this comming CNY.

Price exora 69k VS Alza 64K
i'm personally thinking Exora is my 1st choice over Alza, how ever, another major concerns is the FUEL consumption, i'm 7 days a week

working driving from seri kembangang to KL City in peak hours.

Any of you are Alza or Exora Bold CFE users, kindly reply your fuels consumption ?

1. Price for Full tank
2. last for how many KM for full thank?
3. how often you refuel?
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u could take a visit to fuelly.com to see both cars fc...

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