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 V1 Proton Exora Bold Owners and Fans Thread, Calling all owner and future one...

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SUSOptiplex330
post Jun 19 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(majuperak @ Jun 19 2012, 02:15 PM)
Exora Bold kawan2,

Now am considering Exora Bold Premium CVT .... initially was thinking of Altis 1.6E or 1.8E. Current drive is Livina 1.6A .... need advise
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what is it that you don't like about the Lavina and wanting to change to Bold? I thought the Lavina is a perfectly fine MPV.

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post Jun 19 2012, 02:24 PM

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Received my EB yesterday. A lot of things yet to learn about this MPV. BTW, i've noticed that the Spare Tyre is exactly the same with the 4 tyres, with 16"rim. Is that the same with earlier EB? TQ
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QUOTE(giggsmu @ Jun 19 2012, 02:24 PM)
Received my EB yesterday. A lot of things yet to learn about this MPV. BTW, i've noticed that the Spare Tyre is exactly the same with the 4 tyres, with 16"rim. Is that the same with earlier EB? TQ
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Yup and congrats with ur new ride Bro. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(majuperak @ Jun 19 2012, 02:15 PM)
Exora Bold kawan2,

Now am considering Exora Bold Premium CVT .... initially was thinking of Altis 1.6E or 1.8E. Current drive is Livina 1.6A .... need advise
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From lavina to exora ?? Downgrading?? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:47 PM

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Optiplex: i thought *W is cold start rating... and so the lower it is the better because provide better cold start protection... the number behind is for protection after engine running?

so i understand that after engine runs.. if they say 10w30 is good any 30 is good.

but your point seems to point that 0w wont offer enough protection... cold start protection?

or what is ur understanding of the SAE Rating?

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http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/which-30-weight-oil.php

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post Jun 19 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Turbocrazy @ Jun 19 2012, 02:44 PM)
From lavina to exora ?? Downgrading?? rclxub.gif
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price & class = downgrading
size, power & features = upgrading

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post Jun 19 2012, 04:02 PM

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I am currently driving Livina 1.6A, need to buy another car ... just gotten my WWWxxxx no. plate last week.

At first want to buy Altis 1.6E or 1.8E but now is considering Exora Bold Premium CVT ..... seems good value for money. How is the reliability ? from this thread seems got issues .... proton quality ??


Added on June 19, 2012, 4:04 pm
QUOTE(cocodemon @ Jun 19 2012, 03:55 PM)
price & class = downgrading
size, power & features = upgrading

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Aiyah apa downgrade ? Buying another car mah ...... well Exora Bold seems cheap at RM80k .... I called SA they say can give RM1.5k discount but no stock this month .....

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How is the reliability ? from this thread seems got issues .... proton quality ??

All Malaysian know proton quality. Proton introduce new CFE engine & CVT Gearbox, may be after 3-5 years everything settle like campro now. Anyway the price reasonable.
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(karlbum @ Jun 19 2012, 02:47 PM)
Optiplex: i thought *W is cold start rating... and so the lower it is the better because provide better cold start protection... the number behind is for protection after engine running?

so i understand that after engine runs.. if they say 10w30 is good any 30 is good.

but your point seems to point that 0w wont offer enough protection... cold start protection?

or what is ur understanding of the SAE Rating?
Your understanding of oil viscosity is also my understanding and I am as confused as you are. Have a look at Page 127 whereby it says you can't use 0W or 5W.

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post Jun 19 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(amd2105 @ Jun 19 2012, 09:28 AM)
Hy there, still new here. Just received my EB last friday, boy such a wonderful ride. Well i dunno where to address this but as some of the forumer mentioned here before, there was a rattling trrrrrr sound from behind once it hits small pot hole. Well i guess its not in the manual or maybe i'm just too tired to read the whole thing  sweat.gif

2ndly, the car will make a weird sound (as for CFE) once the engine was turned off, sounds like something is running in the engine, freaked at first but somebody told me that its normal for CFE. Is it normal? Just want to confirm this.

The last part, the rear dvd player really testing my patience as i've read everything in the manual (no dvd was tested yet). Plugged in the usb, the display shows the mp3 was on play mode but no sound, stucked at this point until today. Is there any cable or is there any other point that was missed during the process?

Is the front radio unit possibly "connected" via bluetooth or whatever wire "less" with the dvd player unit? Help me please  cry.gif
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1. the trrrrrr sound when hitting pot hole -->Have not notice this, need to try out and observed
2. Weird sound when turn off engine --> Does it sound like FAN spinning?, if it is the fan than normal. Actually it does irritate me, don't understand why fan still running to cool the engine when engine off.
3. DVD player --> You need to sync the displayed channel on the Player with the FM radio (you can change default channel by pressing the green button on the remote). Make sure you use a channel that not occupied by any station. Alternatively you can run a wire from the DVD player head phone out into the AUX in on the radio then switch radio receiver MODE to AUX, the sound will be much clearer that way.
Note: Long press the "BAND" button to activate manual channel search.


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:36 pm
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
Moving from standstill. There is a time lag of about 1 second after pressing accelerator before power comes in. You people have same issue?
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I do Not notice any delay from stand still to moving. I heard this is common on Preve first batch but not on EB.

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post Jun 19 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM)
Your understanding of oil viscosity is also my understanding and I am as confused as you are. Have a look at Page 127 whereby it says you can't use 0W or 5W.
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What I understood in the manual...minimum API SL service...10 to 30w...actually you can use any oil rate but must at least API SL rate or above...about the low rating is not effect as it rate for lowest ambient temperature...in europe the oil need stay liquip they got 4 season in winter the temp will drop to below 0 degree. About fuel consumption off course using fully syn. Oil fuel consumption will low as the friction become lower due to oil charcteristic low viscocity but no oil break...nowdays at europe or US the service mileage also higher as modern engine and oil lubriction can stand more mileage...that why now they got 10000km period service...but if u use the right oil grade..do not worry bro.
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post Jun 19 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(azlan83 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:38 PM)
What I understood in the manual...minimum API SL service...10 to 30w...actually you can use any oil rate  but must at least API SL rate or above...about the low rating is not effect as it rate for lowest ambient temperature...in europe the oil need stay liquip they got 4 season in winter the temp will drop to below 0 degree. About fuel consumption off course using fully syn. Oil fuel consumption  will low as the friction become lower due to oil charcteristic low viscocity but no oil break...nowdays at europe or US the service mileage also higher as modern engine and oil lubriction can stand more mileage...that why now they got 10000km period service...but if u use the right oil grade..do not worry bro.
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This oil chart clearly said:
5W30 can only be used below ambient temperature 10C. Meaning Canada etc
5W40 can only be used below ambient temperature 20C. Again, summer in Canada etc.

Malaysian hot ambient temperature is in the mid-30's so you can't use them.

I am sticking to 10W30, furthermore, they are dirt cheap compared to 5W30 or 5W40. Cheap and good, why not?


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wonder where's mat79.. would like to ask him to ask his proton friends...
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QUOTE(karlbum @ Jun 19 2012, 11:19 PM)
wonder where's mat79.. would like to ask him to ask his proton friends...
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DSZ resign from Proton affecting Mat79 to resign from Lowyat as well??? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 01:45 AM

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When is the Exora Bold Premium CVT launched ? Now is it still considered first batch of Exora Bold ? Seems like problems still not resolved ? Sigh .... proton oh proton !!
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 19 2012, 11:13 PM)
This oil chart clearly said:
5W30 can only be used below ambient temperature 10C. Meaning Canada etc
5W40 can only be used below ambient temperature 20C. Again, summer in Canada etc.

Malaysian hot ambient temperature is in the mid-30's so you can't use them.

I am sticking to 10W30, furthermore, they are dirt cheap compared to 5W30 or 5W40. Cheap and good, why not?
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5Wxx, 10Wxx, 15Wxx - W rating is for winter, ie cold condition. not applicable in MY. The XX at the back is more important. Lesser XX is better and put less strain to the engine.
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QUOTE(zaidi @ Jun 20 2012, 02:18 AM)
5Wxx, 10Wxx, 15Wxx  - W rating is for winter, ie cold condition. not applicable in MY. The XX at the back is more important. Lesser XX is better and put less strain to the engine.
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No, lower number means less viscous, that means less protection for your engine.

Lower viscosity = engine less sluggish = better fc = less protection.
Higher viscosity = engine more sluggish = worse fc = more protection.

Its a tradeoff between performance and protection against engine wear. Generally, 40 is a good balance between both. 30 is also good enough for those who like to squeeze just a bit more response from your engine.
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All of you are talking about the obvious but none is answering the question I posted. In short, like me, you people also don't know the answer either.

The question is "Why did Proton said you must stick to 10W* and must not use 5W* in Malaysia climate".


At first I thought it was a misprint so I dig out all the car manual I can lay my hands on and sure enough, I find another different manufacturer saying the same thing. There must be some other thing that I just don't understand and neither do any of you.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 20 2012, 05:45 AM)
All of you are talking about the obvious but none is answering the question I posted. In short, like me, you people also don't know the answer either.

The question is "Why did Proton said you must stick to 10W* and must not use 5W* in Malaysia climate".
At first I thought it was a misprint so I dig out all the car manual I can lay my hands on and sure enough, I find another different manufacturer saying the same thing. There must be some other thing that I just don't understand and neither do any of you.
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Cool down bro...I see in the manual proton do not say cannot use 5w* oil. There are quotes in to use 10-30w SL or higher API standard...so choose oil with high API standard...SL,SM or else. On grade for malaysia weather better stick to XX30W use fully syn. Then can service after 10000km mileage. If semi service after 5000km. Up to you bro...
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QUOTE(azlan83 @ Jun 20 2012, 07:21 AM)
Cool down bro...I see in the manual proton do not say cannot use 5w* oil. There are quotes in to use 10-30w SL or higher API standard...so  choose oil with high API standard...SL,SM or else. On grade for malaysia weather better stick to XX30W use fully syn. Then can service after 10000km mileage. If semi service after 5000km. Up to you bro...
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this is bull. service interval for campro engines is 10k with factory recomended grade oil. even the service interval book says 10k. even news annoucement says preve service interval 10k. so will u stop with this 5k-semi syn,10k fully syn mentality ? if u drive a honda, and its service manual says 5k. then, regardless of oil. u service 5k. if u drive a volvo, and its service manual says every 20k or once a year u service every 20k.

so, u follow what your car manufacturer says.
engine oil r & d has improved a lot over the years, and the rule of thumb that our dad used cant be applied now.


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