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RandomKid
post Jul 5 2013, 11:28 PM

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Hi forumers I just wanted to ask a few questions. I've received an offer from numed in johor. Now according to their website they claim that their degree is recognized by the gmc. And I'll be able to go to UK for some Intercalated Study and obtain a BSc Honours degree or a Masters degree.

But my question now is will I be able to do my specialization studies in the uk with numed's degree? I am fully aware that the MBBS degree awarded in Malaysia are not recognized elsewhere but in Malaysia. Is there really no other pathway to do my specialization in other country unless i go for the imu twinning program? Assuming that i will not be studying overseas that is. Thanks for taking the time to read my question and hopefully someone will be able to shed some light on this.
RandomKid
post Jul 8 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 6 2013, 04:13 PM)
this issue has been discussed at pagalavan's blog, and is covered in several statements from the gmc.....

graduates from numed although recognised by gme, is not eligible for fy in uk under current guidelines....and they are not eligible also to sit for the plab, which can make them eligible for fy.....

so all students and potential students in numed should make decisions based on the assumption that they CANNOT work in uk.....

it is commonly misunderstood by many....'specialisation' in medicine means postgraduate on the job training, which means full time work......therefore, no work, no training.....intercalated degrees, masters, and doctorates are NOT specialisation qualifications.....
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Thanks for the clarification. Yeah sorry maybe i didn't state my question that clearly. I am clear that intercalated study and the masters provide by numed are not specialisation qualifications. I was just wondering that will I be able to go to uk for my further studies in specialisation qualifications in uk if i complete their intercalated study and masters degree provided in numed. Thanks.

QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jul 7 2013, 11:12 PM)
I am also confused about this. Let's say a person graduates from IMU local program. He/She can only work in hospitals in Malaysia for the rest of his/her life?
Then what about those people who do the IMU-PMS and they do not get to stay back in the UK. Can they re-enter UK later to work as a doctor there?
To be honest, I tried finding pagalavan's blog and I can't find anything comparing a local medicine graduate and a UK medicine graduate. Could you please give me the link?
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Based on the information I have gathered now. Yes you can only work in hospitals in Malaysia for your whole life if you graduate in Malaysia in any MBBS local program. As our medical degree in Malaysia are not recognised in other country (with exception of UM and UKM medical degrees. Those are recognised in Singapore if im not wrong on this.)

For those who did the IMU-PMS programme that do not get to stay back in the UK. They wont we able to apply for their housemanship there as you have to be in UK for 5 years to work there. (Someone please clarify as I am not too sure about this.) In other words if you want to work in the UK you'll have to study for 5 years there. But however since you graduated from their PMS hence you are eligible to complete your specialisation studies there in the UK.

Not sure about your third question sorry.

Studying medicine in Bolehland is seriously a pain in the a**.

RandomKid
post Jul 8 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jul 8 2013, 05:30 PM)
There's no such thing as "specialisation studies".
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Specialisation qualifications oops sry.
RandomKid
post Jul 9 2013, 03:33 AM

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Thanks for all the clarification limeuu.

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there is no problem studying medicine in msia (standards, quality of students and costs aside)....if you only want to work in msia....

the problem is, many people wants to leave msia....


Its not about people wanting to leave msia or not. Its about having a choice to work elsewhere other than Malaysia. Idk if its just me but after reading all the posts about medical forums here it seems like the future of medicine in Msia is kinda bleak for me. :/

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Maybe you can expand on what you think "specialisation qualifications" entail? I think a lot of aspiring medical students are unaware and/or confused. You need to be working in the UK.

Please read the following CAREFULLY:

http://www.mmc.nhs.uk/specialty_training/s...s_applican.aspx

http://www.mmc.nhs.uk/specialty_training_2...cture_2012.aspx
Thanks for the heads up. By any chance do you have any links on psychiatry for me to read about? I'm particularly interested in this field.

 

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