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post Nov 2 2013, 07:32 AM

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this internship thing... is it the housemanship period?

it cant be done at any hospitals?
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post Nov 2 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 1 2013, 09:00 PM)
The problem is not recognition, but lack of internship jobs......they have enough to take all residents and some internationals.....but about half of internationals will not find a match.....in most states, they have a prioritisation policy, so off shore graduates are always placed last.....

There is another alternative for onshore internationals, places in rural and private hospitals....but this is not open to monash sunway graduates.....
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Remembered you mentioned about Auscat. If our M'sian students are not required to sit for it for Monash Malaysia, how one can work in Australia ? Is that another issue they face as they did not qualify for this exam therefore, not in the list to work there ? Thanks.
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post Nov 2 2013, 10:56 AM

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hi guys, can recommend any good hospital in Malaysia for houseman?
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 07:32 AM)
this internship thing... is it the housemanship period?

it cant be done at any hospitals?
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Nope, currently there are 41 hospitals. To know which hospitals are included you may download the latest KKM Borang Maklumat for Pegawai Perubatan.
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 07:32 AM)
this internship thing... is it the housemanship period?

it cant be done at any hospitals?
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You need to be more specific. Is this still related to practicing in Australia?
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post Nov 2 2013, 01:44 PM

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For those interested in pursuing medicine in the UK. May be of interest to current students as well.

http://www.shapeoftraining.co.uk/reviewsofar/1788.asp

http://www.gmc-uk.org/news/23533.asp



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post Nov 2 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Dr. Irene @ Nov 2 2013, 11:07 AM)
Nope, currently there are 41 hospitals. To know which hospitals are included you may download the latest KKM Borang Maklumat for Pegawai Perubatan.
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aus not msia

QUOTE(podrunner @ Nov 2 2013, 01:10 PM)
You need to be more specific. Is this still related to practicing in Australia?
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yes aus
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 03:10 PM)
aus not msia
yes aus
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then, no.
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post Nov 2 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Nov 2 2013, 03:32 PM)
then, no.
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 07:32 AM)
this internship thing... is it the housemanship period?

it cant be done at any hospitals?
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Yep, internship = housemanship in Australia. It lasts a year.

It can only be done in affiliation with major public tertiary hospitals, although a few private, sub-urban and rural hospitals have recently been approved to train interns.
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Nov 2 2013, 10:53 AM)
Remembered you mentioned about Auscat. If our M'sian students are not required to sit for it for Monash Malaysia, how one can work in Australia ? Is that another issue they face as they did not qualify for this exam therefore, not in the list to work there ? Thanks.
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What is Auscat?
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post Nov 2 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 03:44 PM)
accredited but now allowed?  hmm.gif
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you are NOT an australian resident or cotizen, therefore you have NO right to work and live there, unless you obtain the necessary visa....

so ability to work in another country depends on 3 things....

1. recognised qualification
2. offer of job
3. getting a visa to work

you need all 3....

for monash sunway grads trying to work in oz, you have problem with 2....

for numed grads trying to work in uk you have problem with 2 and 3, and probably 1 too....

if you are a msian uni grad trying to work outside msia, you have problem with all 3....
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Nov 2 2013, 10:53 AM)
Remembered you mentioned about Auscat. If our M'sian students are not required to sit for it for Monash Malaysia, how one can work in Australia ? Is that another issue they face as they did not qualify for this exam therefore, not in the list to work there ? Thanks.
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You are referring to Isat.
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 03:44 PM)
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Probably if a fren who is a doctor in oz offered a Monash grad as a partner, he may get to work in oz.
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post Nov 2 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 2 2013, 05:32 PM)
you are NOT an australian resident or cotizen, therefore you have NO right to work and live there, unless you obtain the necessary visa....

so ability to work in another country depends on 3 things....

1. recognised qualification
2. offer of job
3. getting a visa to work

you need all 3....

for monash sunway grads trying to work in oz, you have problem with 2....

for numed grads trying to work in uk you have problem with 2 and 3, and probably 1 too....

if you are a msian uni grad trying to work outside msia, you have problem with all 3....
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housemanship is counted as employment?
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 06:00 PM)
housemanship is counted as employment?
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yes of course....you are paid....
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post Nov 2 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 2 2013, 06:03 PM)
yes of course....you are paid....
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to work in oz as a doc, do u have to do ur housemanship in oz?
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 06:05 PM)
to work in oz as a doc, do u have to do ur housemanship in oz?
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The short answer is no, you do not need to finish your internship in Australia to work as a doctor here, assuming you can get a job offer in the first place.

However, you will need to either to be holding a recognized degree or sit for the AMC exam to get a provisional practicing license. If it's the latter, you will also need to be supervised for a year before full registration is granted.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 2 2013, 05:32 PM)
you are NOT an australian resident or cotizen, therefore you have NO right to work and live there, unless you obtain the necessary visa....

so ability to work in another country depends on 3 things....

1. recognised qualification
2. offer of job
3. getting a visa to work

you need all 3....

for monash sunway grads trying to work in oz, you have problem with 2....

for numed grads trying to work in uk you have problem with 2 and 3, and probably 1 too....

if you are a msian uni grad trying to work outside msia, you have problem with all 3....
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Even locals are having a hard time finding internships here, and international students are way down the priority list. Hoping there will be a change for us OZ grads.

QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Nov 2 2013, 06:05 PM)
to work in oz as a doc, do u have to do ur housemanship in oz?
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short answer: no. But you have to go through the lengthy process of exams and interviews, and most importantly, finding a hosp to take you in :)Exams and stuff are for recognition of your degree/skills/assessing your capability. Bear in mind even if you are a sub sub sub specialty specialist in X country, doesnt mean you will be a consultant here in that area.
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post Nov 2 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(BrachialPlexus @ Nov 2 2013, 06:55 PM)
The short answer is no, you do not need to finish your internship in Australia to work as a doctor here, assuming you can get a job offer in the first place.

However, you will need to either to be holding a recognized degree or sit for the AMC exam to get a provisional practicing license. If it's the latter, you will also need to be supervised for a year before full registration is granted.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Nov 2 2013, 06:58 PM)
short answer: no. But you have to go through the lengthy process of exams and interviews, and most importantly, finding a hosp to take you in :)Exams and stuff are for recognition of your degree/skills/assessing your capability. Bear in mind even if you are a sub sub sub specialty specialist in X country, doesnt mean you will be a consultant here in that area.
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does that mean u can always setup ur own clinic?

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