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CyberSetan
post Jul 3 2020, 09:51 PM

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I am necro-ing this thread to answer a dilemma by meowzas :

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Hello and good day,

I've been reading up on medical schools a lot and saw you frequently commenting, so I thought it'd be a good idea to ask your opinion on the subject.

As for my sincerity on the profession, I believe it's strong enough - I dropped a one million ringgit scholarship to pursue medicine.

I received scholarship offers from mara and jpa - mara going to cucms and jpa going to either msu, mahsa, or the usm-kle programme in india. From upu, I also got pasum offer, meaning i'd have the chance to continue my studies in ipta, but it also means I'd have the possibility of not getting into medicine at all and with thousands to compete with.

Being honest, I'm leaning towards pasum, as if I were to successfully enter an ipta, i'd get the chance to learn under guaranteed great lecturers. However back to the point, it has no security whatsoever.

I was hoping to get your take on it - any advice would do.
Thank you! - meowzas


Here is my answer:

Hi,

Between IPTA vs IPTS, take IPTA.... and...

If you received scholarship to study abroad, take it...

From the above choices that you told me, USM-KLE is a great choice and in fact it is an IPTA branch abroad (USM)....

If I were you you, I'd take the offer to study in USM-KLE. It is in collaboration with Jawarharlal Nehru Medical College (JNMC), it is one of the top medical colleges in Karnataka and India.

Life is short, you should experience other country when given the opportunity, I cherished the time when I studied in India... the experience, climate and culture (both good and bad) are totally worth it... Many of my IPTA friends were envious about it...

I have been working in KKM for the past 8 years now since graduation, the fact is, it really doesn't matter much where you've graduated and obtained your MMC-recognized medical degree when working in the government service, the people around you will evaluate you from your knowledge, competency, effort and attitude.

I have a colleague that graduated from University Malaya - but she was terminated from KKM because she was deemed incompetent during her housemanship... and I also have a colleague that graduated from Russia (back then Russian medical graduates were deemed incompetent too see link below) that is now a OBGyn specialist (completed MRCOG)....

If you are not-competent but hard working, humble and always willing to learn in order to become competent, you will be achieve a lot while working in KKM... and can progress forward to becoming a specialist...

Here is what I recorded years ago while studying in India, the one in front is Dr. Ismail Merican (former Director General of Health Malaysia):





Other relevant link:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3947399/all

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jul 3 2020, 10:27 PM
CyberSetan
post Jul 4 2020, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(meowzas @ Jul 4 2020, 12:00 AM)
Thank you for the advice!

As for jpa, my current offer is different and am applying for placement changes to usm-kle - so I guess I'd have to see how that goes first.

Another question I'd like to ask is -
How long do medical officers usually wait for their turn to specialise?
I've read that recently, albeit being good and applying, there's still a long line to wait for.

This is because I'm also pondering about if I took jpa it has that 10 year bond to serve before we're free to go. In my plannings, I don't think I'll be going to private, however I'd still prefer if I had the freedom of choosing career pathways.

Thank you! Have a good day.
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If possible, try to get the USM-KLE.

About your other question, if you really determined, you can start your way to become a specialist (in certain fields) even during your housemanship training by taking and passing certain professional exams. It is faster than doing Masters degree in Universities but.... you will have to fork out the fees yourself.

For example, MRCP (UK) if you are keen to become a physician.... MRCPCH for pediatrician... MRCOG for Obgyn specialist... MRCGP for family physician...
If you manage to pass all the required papers, you can apply to KKM to be registered as a specialist after you have undergone a certain period of training known as 'credentialing' in suitable departments.

See here for recognized specialist qualifications: https://www.nsr.org.my/Qualifications.html

On the 10 years bond... that is not necessarily the case nowadays... new medical doctors are hired on contract basis now... only a fraction of them will be absorbed into permanent work force...



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CyberSetan
post Aug 30 2021, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Aug 29 2021, 03:26 PM)
I'm a matriculation student now. How is the pathway to obtaining a Sports Doctor qualification from Universiti Malaya? Do I need an MBBS before another 4 years of Masters Program in Sports Medicine? Any shorter route?
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Answer to the bold part = No.

Assuming you can get into medicine... and then assuming you can finish the medical course... you will further need get into Housemanship on a CONTRACT BASIS...

Assuming you can finish the Housemanship and its brutal training... you will further need serve as a MEDICAL OFFICER for some more years ON CONTRACT BASIS (UNLESS YOU QUIT)...

Assuming you did not quit and your contract is renewed.... you will still need to GET A PERMANENT GOVERNMENT POST first before you can apply for Medical/Surgical Masters in IPTAs...

Assuming you even get a permanent govt post... you will still need to serve for several years under SPORTS MEDICINE / ORTHOPEDIC DEPARTMENT and become senior Medical Officer under that department before the head of department can support your application for the Masters program...

Assuming you got the approval from the head of department.... you will still need to PASS THE ENTRANCE EXAM AND COMPETE WITH OTHER CANDIDATES from all over Malaysia for the limited number of seats for the Masters program...

Assuming you got the seat... it will take several more years to complete the Masters...

Assuming you completed the Masters... it will take several moooore years to be officially gazetted as SPORTS MEDICINE SPECIALIST....

Assuming you became a SPORTS MEDICINE SPECIALIST... you will need to serve the government for moooore years before you can quit government service without penalty...

So... are you up to it?

if not, just take other paths in life that is less demanding.... become a Pharmacist... or a Teacher for example...

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