an update for potential students intending to head to uk...

1. the peninsula medical school is now split into two separate entities, as the plymouth and the exeter med schools from next year.....

2. the liverpool school at lancaster has been given a licence to start their own separate programme, and from next year, graduates will get the lancaster mbchb instead of the liverpool one...

3. this is not really new, keele graduated their first batch of mbchb this year....previous years get the manchester mbchb....

not sure how recognition will be for 1. the peninsula degree is recognised by mmc. lancaster is not yet recognised, keele is already recognised....

Apparently the scholar in Clayton didn't do well. So how do Mara deal with scholars who, for example, fail first year (after sitting for supplementary papers)?

they are given more money to repeat the year....

i am not kidding.....

yeah they do. My friend has to pay for the extra 1 sem of med research to fill in that 1/2 year gap before he retakes the failed semester.

JPA and MARA get quite good allowance too.

just wondering, the 10 year bond with govn upon finishing your JPA scholarship, is that still on? and if it is, is that a good thing in your opinion?

That's ridiculously generous...it's a lifetime crutch then.

it's still 10 years....and in the future when there is a glut of doctors, that will indeed be an asset.....at least you are 'guaranteed' a job....

that will not happen from next year, in utas, as the format is changed to be consistent with other med schools, and utas' own clinical years....ie, the semester format is removed, and it's a whole year's programme now with one final result at the end.....


This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 5 2012, 09:57 PM

oh, so if you failed year 2 sem 2 you'll have to retake year 2? thought they'll be more lenient for pre-clins

yes....but not fail sem 2, there isn't a division anymore, you just fail year 2, and repeat the whole year...might as well, since it's quite pointless parking students in a secondary course for a sem, so they can repeat the failed semester....this format works for other courses, where the same unit is offered in both semesters, but not single intake courses....

btw, the semester system also works in imu due to the double intake....

Seems like the structure we have in third year...

yes, it is to bring the first 2 years in line with the clinical years, like i said above......

Wow, version 3 already? There seems to be a lot of info on Australia, guess many interested to practice there eh? Oh no, here comes the brain drain

Anyway, I do realize the lack of post grad discussion in this thread. Seems to me not many are keen for further studies

the discussion is about potential and current students in oz, and does not mean necessarily means working there, and there is increasing probability that many will not get internship jobs there in future....

also, this thread is about medical students, hence the focus in about getting into, and focusing on medical studies.....postgraduate issues will be inappropriate for students at this point......

To my knowledge, most people who attend med schools in developed countries do have the intention of working there upon graduation (scholars not included). So anyhow, privately funded medical students studying in developed countries do largely contribute to the brain drain phenomenon.

Anyway, no harm discussing about postgrad studies here even though the thread is meant for medical students. Perhaps a senior doc like yourself can start the ball rolling. It would definitely be nice for a senior clinician such as yourself to shed some light on this matter.

intentions, and the actual ability to are different matters.....and increasingly, both uk and oz are closing doors to international students staying on and working after graduating.....

the same will be happening to working in spore as well, in the near future.....

which is why is amusing to read students of local med schools not recognised elsewhere talk about going to work and do postgraduate training in these developed countries....

as for postgraduate issues, pagalavan's blog would probably be a better place to ask and discuss.....

To my knowledge, uk's door has long been closed for non eu citizens. Imgs can only do foundation years there, and will be required to leave upon completion. As for oz, they are still taking in mos who has completed amc test (some of my classmates just went). Just that the internship post is limited.

Btw are u from Kuching? Do you know anything about cardiology department in Sarawak GH? I heard training under Dr Sim is very good.

img refers to doctors who graduated outside these countries.....international students who studied and graduated there are not considered img.....

it is possible to get jobs beyond fy in uk....the visa requirements will be met, as long as there is a job offer, and that is possible in some circumstances....particularly for top students with good references.....

dr. sim is no longer with the moh officially....

Oh my bad. What I meant was non eu citizens who have completed their studies in uk.

So without dr sim, does the cardiology in SGH still offer good training?

yes..........

Any chance of expanding on the "........"?

Limeuu, I did not study nor work in the UK. But I have heard postgraduate in the UK is difficult but most of my friends got it anyway. Why?

And I have seen a couple of times you mentioned about top students with good references getting PG job. But, how many people can actually be top student in the university? And some top students did not end up performing extremely well in work anyway.