Well Limeuu said med schools don't need to advertise.

Even local public unis which people deem to be substandard do not need to advertise ...and it will be full of people trying to get in! Even resorting to political connections

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Oct 18 2012, 11:45 AM

"Bad" as in not meeting enrolment numbers...

Well, giving talks is one thing, making statements like the one I highlighted is just downright unscrupulous...

yes it is.....they have been unable to fill all the places, and have resorted to dumbing down their selection, like all the other ipts med schools.....they have ignored the isat results.....and atar scores taken in are very much lower than the 99.0 used in clayton.....

the reason is partly the cost.....and partly the realisation by many parents that it is not the same degree as the clayton one.....and there is smaller and smaller chance of doing internship in oz going forward....

in this respect, imu-pms is definitely the better choice, especially the uk matches.....that is why the imu-pms undergraduate stream is the most popular and heavily over subscribed, and now probably the most difficult ipts med school to get into.....

imu still advertises their pms programme, but it's usually part of a uni-wide advert, more targeting at potential students for their other programmes.....they have enough applicants for the pms programme.....

---

Added on October 18, 2012, 12:07 pmit is misleading, but they are desperate.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 18 2012, 12:07 PM

Quote from the article - "The MBBS programme takes in 130-140 students once a year" - anyone has any idea what the cohort size is for 2012?

Someone should ask the right questions during the talk! It will be interesting to see how the questions will be addressed, or sidestepped. It looks as thought it is GES that made the statements you highlighted.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Oct 18 2012, 12:23 PM

Well, I'm assuming the advertisement is paid for by Monash and as such, is endorsed by the institution itself. Regardless, I'd love to hear the speaker's (or the Sunway Medical School) response to the Australian internship shortage - any news about Sunway graduates getting an internship for 2013?

This post has been edited by Huskies: Oct 18 2012, 12:59 PM

Would the demand for places in public unis be the same if the fees are not subsidized? A no brainer!

---

Added on October 18, 2012, 1:54 pmIt was around 120. More than what you expect them to get!

This post has been edited by cckkpr: Oct 18 2012, 01:54 PM

in countries with socialised education system, the selection of medical students is not based on cost or ability to pay......

in capitalised education system like the us, where most unis are privately run, and charges fees, there is also little selection based on ability to pay....although there is affirmative action policies to help minorities and indigent students.....

the system now existing in msia is one where there exist several parallel systems, each with a different set of characteristics.....

the ipta is heavily subsidised, and takes in both the best students, as well as nep compliant students.....

ipts generally is money based......

foreign med schools like russia/ukraine/indonesia are for cheaper courses and for students who are weaker....

non of the systems are based purely on merit.....

This is no longer true. Most of the best students are already in the colleges pursuing the different pre-university courses after the SPM and what is remaining in the STPM or matriks are the filtered ones, many of whom are not by choice.

We have to accept the fact that the glory of the iptas are long gone.

why would australia want anymore doctors...? they have enough of their own. my friend's brother cant get housemanship. 5th year medical student in uni of melbourne.

some doctors are even sweeping the floors in ireland because they pay better than gov' hospitals

you will not be looking for housemanship jobs when you are in 5th year of melbourne's undergraduate medical course......

Hospitals are full..his course is only 5 yrs before aus implemented the new graduate entry system like the USA

the last intake of the undergraduate system was 2008, ie that cohort is now in the 5th year, and still have i more year to go next year 2013.....

there was no intake in 2009 and 2010.....

the first graduate entry cohort was in 2011, and will graduate end 2014......because it is 4 year.....not 5......

Internship placements for next year should be out by now. Maybe the 5th year has not been placed yet.

those who entered in 2008 in the last undergraduate cohort will enter final year next year, and start housemanship applications in mid 2013.......to start in 2014....

the numbers for 2014 will not be known till all applications are in, and there will likely be expansion of intern jobs as well.....so the mismatch will be unknown until then.....

Oops, forgot UMelb's undergrad course was 6 years!!

they still need doctors. just that the training spots for intern are very limited (which is silly really if you're trying to get more doctors). AFAIK, they are still TRYING to do something about it, but it's all talks at the moment. just hope they will take actions.

Doctor demo highlights hazy future - "A WINDSCREEN cleaning at the stoplights usually costs a gold coin. Tomorrow, in Sydney’s Taylor Square, 100 or more doctors-in-waiting will be doing it for free.

International medical students have planned the “scrubs in the street protest” to highlight a mismatch between university and clinical training places, which threatens to leave 180 graduating students without internships next year."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-edu...x-1226499569555

In other news, Malaysia seems to be doing just fine...with 47 medical schools?!

No oversupply of doctors

"The government has given an assurance that the country would not face a situation where there would be an oversupply of doctors in future.

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop said proper manpower planning by the government would ensure that such a scenario would not happen."

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/509332


This post has been edited by Huskies: Oct 20 2012, 11:29 AM

Medical students, please read.

http://www.heavenaddress.com/Dr-Richard-Te.../379719/content

if he had least spend one day off to day a full medical check up once a year when he started working he could be still very well alive. kesian.